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  Gravity Peter <Poakfield@msn.com> - 2018-04-30 06:42 -0700
    Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 07:16 -0700
      Re: Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 14:50 +0000
      Re: Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-30 15:02 +0000
    Re: Gravity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-30 10:46 -0400
      Re: Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 07:56 -0700
        Re: Gravity Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-04-30 12:01 -0400
        Re: Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 17:33 +0000
          Re: Gravity "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 12:12 -0700
            Re: Gravity "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-04-30 13:18 -0700
          Re: Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 13:54 -0700
            Re: Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 21:37 +0000
            Re: Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-30 22:10 +0000
        Re: Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-01 01:05 -0700
    Re: Gravity Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-04-30 15:21 -0700
      The idea of motion may not be applied to it. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-04-30 15:39 -0700
    Re: Gravity poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-01 00:58 -0700

#682958 — Gravity

Hi. Please, is it known the mechanism through which the force of gravity works?

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#682962

No. 
“Scientists “ will tell you Earth creates gravity “just by being there.”
Odd is a “scientist “.

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#682980

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> No. 
> “Scientists “ will tell you Earth creates gravity “just by being there.”
> Odd is a “scientist “.
> 

I’m a woodworker, not a scientist. But I’ve read more than John, so I have
a better grip on the current thinking. 

For the OP, “works” in science has an operational meaning. We can say we
know how gravity works when the theory generates quantitative predictions
that match detailed and corroborated measurements. General relativity is
such a model, and because its unambiguous predictions match experiment very
well and over a very wide range of measurements, then physicists say that
its description of how gravity works is a good one. 

The description of that can be found in any number of books aimed at the
lay reader, though to get more precise and detailed, you’ll have to dive a
little deeper. 

You will find that there are some people here, like John, who don’t care
about the operational definition of “works” that scientists use. These
people will have various complaints, such as:
- space cannot possibly influence matter, because of the human meaning of
the word “space”;
- it’s too mathematical, which means it’s wrong;
- the only “real” explanations can involve matter banging on matter;
- my theory is easier to understand and easier to understand is always more
right.
Be on guard about thinking like this. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#682986

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>No.
>"Scientists " will tell you Earth creates gravity "just by being there."

Beware of what John writes. John won't read physics books, prefering to make
up his own "science" instead. This is a surprisingly common problem of many
posters here, they feel they can make things up as they go along.

>Odd is a "scientist ".

He says he's a woodworker, why do you doubt that?

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#682976

On 4/30/2018 9:42 AM, Peter wrote:
> Hi. Please, is it known the mechanism through which the force of gravity works?
> 
According to General Relativity, gravity is not strictly a force (just 
like centrifugal force isn't), it's caused by the curvature of spacetime 
caused by mass and energy.

Mass tells spacetime how to curve, the curvature of spacetime tells mass 
how to move.

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#682983

Volney 
“Mass tells spacetime how to curve, the curvature of spacetime tells mass 
how to move. ”
What language do they use?

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#682993

On 4/30/2018 10:56 AM, john wrote:
> Volney
> “Mass tells spacetime how to curve, the curvature of spacetime tells mass
> how to move. ”
> What language do they use?
> 
Mathematics.

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#683001

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Volney 
> “Mass tells spacetime how to curve, the curvature of spacetime tells mass 
> how to move. ”
> What language do they use?
> 

Fields. 
Just as in the case of “electrons tell about properties of space around
them, and the space around them tells electrons in that space how to move.”
That’s electrodynamics. Faraday, Maxwell, 1800’s, you know. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#683007

On Monday, April 30, 2018 at 10:33:40 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Volney 
> > “Mass tells spacetime how to curve, the curvature of spacetime tells mass 
> > how to move. ”
> > What language do they use?
> > 
> 
> Fields. 
> Just as in the case of “electrons tell about properties of space around
> them, and the space around them tells electrons in that space how to move.”
> That’s electrodynamics. Faraday, Maxwell, 1800’s, you know. 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Greater mass density the greater the force of gravity.Think BHs  How gravity works is unknown.Greater acceleration.Greater inertia  All fit with gravity force.Always keep in mind gravity controls the flow of time.Gravity in reality stops time.Einstein thinking was time was more dynamic than space when he gave us GR.  G=EMC^2 is in reality an equation of words to describe how gravity and God created all that is in the cosmos  Bert

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#683019

"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> gave us 
"Glazier's Rant (=GR).  'G=EMC^2' is in reality an equation 
to describe how "Glazier Exhibits Micro Cephalic Cretinism".Bert
>
>
>
hmmm...<snicker>...<chortle>...ahahahAHAHA...ROTFLMAO

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#683025

Odd
“Just as in the case of “electrons tell about properties of space around 
them, and the space around them tells electrons in that space how to move.” 
That’s electrody”
All by magic.
They read each other’s minds

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#683030

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “Just as in the case of “electrons tell about properties of space around 
> them, and the space around them tells electrons in that space how to move.” 
> That’s electrody”
> All by magic.

It’s fun that you think electromagnetic fields are voodoo, John. 

When I was a small boy, I thought icemakers were magic. 


> They read each other’s minds
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#683032

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Odd
>"Just as in the case of "electrons tell about properties of space around
>them, and the space around them tells electrons in that space how to move."
>That's electrody"

Learn to quote, John.

>All by magic.
>They read each other's minds

And yet electrons attract protons just fine. And electrons repel
each other just fine.

BTW you keep whining about "suck gravity" but nary a peep from you
about electric charges attracting and repelling each other. Why?
Especially when opposite charges attract each other with the
exact same inverse square law that "suck gravity" does!

BTW, LeSage is the real "suck gravity". It works the same way that
sucking on a soda straw works (or would, if LeSage gravity worked
at all!). Straws work because air pressure pushes on liquid from
all sides, so it doesn't move, except when sucking on the straw.
There the pressure is less and the liquid goes up the straw.

LeSage gravity "works" because pressure on a mass is equal on all
sides except when blocked by another mass. Because of the reduced
pressure, the first mass moves toward the blocking mass.

Sucker!!!!!

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#683107

On Monday, April 30, 2018 at 5:56:16 PM UTC+3, john wrote:
> Volney 
> “Mass tells spacetime how to curve, the curvature of spacetime tells mass 
> how to move. ”
> What language do they use?
=================
(:-)
Bingo !!!!!
you asked the bingo question the question of the little boy who discovered that 
the emperor is NAKED !!!!

it is to0o complicated for parrots /book sellers like P D 
-------
John
I start to like you !!
======
Y.Porat
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#683033

On Monday, April 30, 2018 at 6:42:33 AM UTC-7, Peter wrote:
> Hi. Please, is it known the mechanism through which the force of gravity works?


The flow of space into bodies causes the apparent force of gravity.

Double-A

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#683039 — The idea of motion may not be applied to it.

> The flow of space into bodies causes the apparent force of gravity.

How does space "flow" ?
Einstein wrote:

  Time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter.

  [...] this ether may not be thought of as endowed with
  the quality characteristic of ponderable media,
  as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time.

  The idea of motion may not be applied to it.

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#683106

On Monday, April 30, 2018 at 4:42:33 PM UTC+3, Peter wrote:
> Hi. Please, is it known the mechanism through which the force of gravity works?

=========================
see Google
 'the Y Circlon mechanism '

http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract 
AT ITS APPENDIX 
======
TIA
Y.Porat
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