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Why is the San Bernardino shooting rare among mass shootings?

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#537273 — Why is the San Bernardino shooting rare among mass shootings?

From	Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date	2015-12-03 20:06 -0600
Subject	Why is the San Bernardino shooting rare among mass shootings?
Message-ID	<zJadnYTQvbeQaP3LnZ2dnUU7-WUAAAAA@giganews.com>

Why is the San Bernardino shooting rare among mass shootings?
> http://phys.org/news/2015-12-san-bernardino-rare-mass.html


> The shooting in San Bernardino, CA yesterday marked the 355th mass
> shooting in the United States in less than as many days in 2015. As
> details emerge regarding yesterday's events, it is clear that these
> types of crimes are morphing and not abating.
>
> "Shootings involving mission-oriented females may be a new threshold
> which should be concerning to all of us, and the incident in San
> Bernardino might just be a hybrid, and a harbinger, of shootings to
> come," says Mary Ellen O'Toole, PhD, Director, Forensic Science
> Program, George Mason University and Editor-in-Chief of Violence and
> Gender, a peer-reviewed journal published by Mary Ann Liebert, Inc.,
> publishers.
>
> A "hybrid" means a spinoff from other cases of mass murder. "Like a
> cancer," says Dr. O'Toole, "this crime is moving and growing in
> insidious ways, and is resistant to 'treatment.'"

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#537295

From	gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com>
Date	2015-12-03 21:28 -0600
Message-ID	<n3r19e$poo$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to	#537273

On 12/3/2015 8:06 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Why is the San Bernardino shooting rare among mass shootings?
>> http://phys.org/news/2015-12-san-bernardino-rare-mass.html
>
>
>> The shooting in San Bernardino, CA yesterday marked the 355th mass
>> shooting in the United States in less than as many days in 2015. As
>> details emerge regarding yesterday's events, it is clear that these
>> types of crimes are morphing and not abating.

when the political process is totally broken,

  and people cannot express their views,

and Buerocrates create suffocating laws to businesses, healthcare,

and impose new heavy taxes on fuels,

When the president is obcessed with himself and his image....

and give trillions away to poor countries for Global Worming in tax 
dollars without voter consent,

            Taxation without representation.

leads to the birth of a new nation,

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#537315

From	jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date	2015-12-04 05:17 +0000
Message-ID	<g8k7jc-ct9.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to	#537295

gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 12/3/2015 8:06 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> Why is the San Bernardino shooting rare among mass shootings?
>>> http://phys.org/news/2015-12-san-bernardino-rare-mass.html
>>
>>
>>> The shooting in San Bernardino, CA yesterday marked the 355th mass
>>> shooting in the United States in less than as many days in 2015. As
>>> details emerge regarding yesterday's events, it is clear that these
>>> types of crimes are morphing and not abating.
> 
> when the political process is totally broken,
> 
>  and people cannot express their views,
> 
> and Buerocrates create suffocating laws to businesses, healthcare,
> 
> and impose new heavy taxes on fuels,
> 
> When the president is obcessed with himself and his image....
> 
> and give trillions away to poor countries for Global Worming in tax 
> dollars without voter consent,
> 
>            Taxation without representation.
> 
> leads to the birth of a new nation,

The shooting in San Bernardino were a couple of Muslims pissed off
about something personal.

I will guarantee it had nothing to do with "Taxation without
representation.".
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#537296

From	jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date	2015-12-04 03:06 +0000
Message-ID	<ejc7jc-269.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to	#537273

Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why is the San Bernardino shooting rare among mass shootings?
>> http://phys.org/news/2015-12-san-bernardino-rare-mass.html
> 
> 
>> The shooting in San Bernardino, CA yesterday marked the 355th mass
>> shooting in the United States in less than as many days in 2015. As
>> details emerge regarding yesterday's events, it is clear that these
>> types of crimes are morphing and not abating.
>>
>> "Shootings involving mission-oriented females may be a new threshold
>> which should be concerning to all of us, and the incident in San
>> Bernardino might just be a hybrid, and a harbinger, of shootings to
>> come," says Mary Ellen O'Toole, PhD, Director, Forensic Science
>> Program, George Mason University and Editor-in-Chief of Violence and
>> Gender, a peer-reviewed journal published by Mary Ann Liebert, Inc.,
>> publishers.
>>
>> A "hybrid" means a spinoff from other cases of mass murder. "Like a
>> cancer," says Dr. O'Toole, "this crime is moving and growing in
>> insidious ways, and is resistant to 'treatment.'"

Nonsense, such has been going on for a very long time.

There is nothing new about female Muslim terrorists or female Viet
Cong terrorists or...

As usual your cut and paste is arm waving crap.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#537380

From	"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date	2015-12-04 10:00 -0800
Message-ID	<7d1bf0fe-27c2-431f-b2da-9bb47f74c36a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#537296

On Thursday, December 3, 2015 at 7:31:05 PM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Why is the San Bernardino shooting rare among mass shootings?
> >> http://phys.org/news/2015-12-san-bernardino-rare-mass.html
> > 
> > 
> >> The shooting in San Bernardino, CA yesterday marked the 355th mass
> >> shooting in the United States in less than as many days in 2015. As
> >> details emerge regarding yesterday's events, it is clear that these
> >> types of crimes are morphing and not abating.
> >>
> >> "Shootings involving mission-oriented females may be a new threshold
> >> which should be concerning to all of us, and the incident in San
> >> Bernardino might just be a hybrid, and a harbinger, of shootings to
> >> come," says Mary Ellen O'Toole, PhD, Director, Forensic Science
> >> Program, George Mason University and Editor-in-Chief of Violence and
> >> Gender, a peer-reviewed journal published by Mary Ann Liebert, Inc.,
> >> publishers.
> >>
> >> A "hybrid" means a spinoff from other cases of mass murder. "Like a
> >> cancer," says Dr. O'Toole, "this crime is moving and growing in
> >> insidious ways, and is resistant to 'treatment.'"
> 
> Nonsense, such has been going on for a very long time.
> 
> There is nothing new about female Muslim terrorists or female Viet
> Cong terrorists or...
> 
> As usual your cut and paste is arm waving crap.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jim Pennino

It was a husband and wife terrorists team.In Isreal Muslim children had bombs tied to them by their mothers to blow up school busses. All in the name of Allah.The worse is yet to come.I'm not going on a plane this Christmas Allah's wishes could be the co-pilot.Bombs are Allah way to kill and planes are bombs.TreBert

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#537309

From	benj <none@gmail.com>
Date	2015-12-03 23:54 -0500
Message-ID	<Y%88y.473399$eJ3.91125@fx10.iad>
In reply to	#537273

On 12/03/2015 09:06 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Why is the San Bernardino shooting rare among mass shootings?
>> http://phys.org/news/2015-12-san-bernardino-rare-mass.html
>
>
>> The shooting in San Bernardino, CA yesterday marked the 355th mass
>> shooting in the United States in less than as many days in 2015. As
>> details emerge regarding yesterday's events, it is clear that these
>> types of crimes are morphing and not abating.
>>
>> "Shootings involving mission-oriented females may be a new threshold
>> which should be concerning to all of us, and the incident in San
>> Bernardino might just be a hybrid, and a harbinger, of shootings to
>> come," says Mary Ellen O'Toole, PhD, Director, Forensic Science
>> Program, George Mason University and Editor-in-Chief of Violence and
>> Gender, a peer-reviewed journal published by Mary Ann Liebert, Inc.,
>> publishers.
>>
>> A "hybrid" means a spinoff from other cases of mass murder. "Like a
>> cancer," says Dr. O'Toole, "this crime is moving and growing in
>> insidious ways, and is resistant to 'treatment.'"

Phys.org still just as stoopid and ignorant and full of lies as always. 
No wonder a idiot asshat like you loves them.

For those who understand science: The widely repeated 355 "mass 
shootings" figure above needs to be defined. What they count as a "mass 
shooting" is an incident where four or more people were INJURED or 
killed. It is NOT 355 Sandyhook school shootings. It's 355 where 4 
people got some kind of injury. That counts many crime shootings, a LOT 
of gang shoot-outs and other (yawn) things we know and love about 
minority America and even firearm accidents where nobody was even shot, 
just sprayed with some cement chips! ALL are termed "mass shootings"!

Pure lies. Pure sensationalism. Lies and mouse painting have no place in 
science. Sam has never learned that. If only we could drum him out of 
science for good! He deserves that shame.

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#537342

From	Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com>
Date	2015-12-04 08:15 -0500
Message-ID	<Lq-dnfheXsebD_zLnZ2dnUU7-bednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to	#537273

On 03/12/2015 9:06 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> A "hybrid" means a spinoff from other cases of mass murder. "Like a
> cancer," says Dr. O'Toole, "this crime is moving and growing in
> insidious ways, and is resistant to 'treatment.'"

Isn't it obvious what the treatment is? Gun laws. America has got its 
head in the sand about its 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. Nothing in 
about the 2nd Amendment prevents governments from passing common-sense 
gun laws, governments are paralysed by special interests from doing so.

	Yousuf Khan

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#537363

From	HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date	2015-12-04 08:37 -0800
Message-ID	<3dd58ebe-df00-4ac9-a3d7-c25d87e6bb37@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#537342

On Friday, December 4, 2015 at 1:15:55 PM UTC, Yousuf Khan wrote:
> On 03/12/2015 9:06 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > A "hybrid" means a spinoff from other cases of mass murder. "Like a
> > cancer," says Dr. O'Toole, "this crime is moving and growing in
> > insidious ways, and is resistant to 'treatment.'"
> 
> Isn't it obvious what the treatment is? Gun laws. America has got its 
> head in the sand about its 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. Nothing in 
> about the 2nd Amendment prevents governments from passing common-sense 
> gun laws, governments are paralysed by special interests from doing so.
> 
> 	Yousuf Khan

The 'treatment' of gun laws is making gun CRIMES punishable by a lifetime sentence to jail. Simple. You use a gun in a crime and we remove you from our society. But no... Liberals want to take away the guns from people who would NEVER commit a crime, never mind a gun crime.

Idiocy at it's highest level.

We had everything we needed to take the Cali shooters down before it started.

Liberal politically correct government policy prevented us from taking action.

This is a simple fact. There is no arguing

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#537391

From	benj <none@gmail.com>
Date	2015-12-04 13:32 -0500
Message-ID	<f%k8y.160929$NM.469@fx22.iad>
In reply to	#537363

On 12/04/2015 11:37 AM, HVAC wrote:
> On Friday, December 4, 2015 at 1:15:55 PM UTC, Yousuf Khan wrote:
>> On 03/12/2015 9:06 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>> A "hybrid" means a spinoff from other cases of mass murder. "Like a
>>> cancer," says Dr. O'Toole, "this crime is moving and growing in
>>> insidious ways, and is resistant to 'treatment.'"
>>
>> Isn't it obvious what the treatment is? Gun laws. America has got its
>> head in the sand about its 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. Nothing in
>> about the 2nd Amendment prevents governments from passing common-sense
>> gun laws, governments are paralysed by special interests from doing so.
>>
>> 	Yousuf Khan
>
>
> The 'treatment' of gun laws is making gun CRIMES punishable by a lifetime sentence to jail. Simple. You use a gun in a crime and we remove you from our society. But no... Liberals want to take away the guns from people who would NEVER commit a crime, never mind a gun crime.
>
> Idiocy at it's highest level.
>
> We had everything we needed to take the Cali shooters down before it started.
>
> Liberal politically correct government policy prevented us from taking action.
>
> This is a simple fact. There is no arguing
>
HVAC is the PERFECT example why we need to give Our President the 
authority he is asking for to create a secret "no guns" list just like 
the "no fly" list!  Give him the authority to put anyone he deems a 
danger on it and never let them off!  HVAC should be the first name.

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#537399

From	jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date	2015-12-04 19:14 +0000
Message-ID	<i959jc-o3f.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to	#537342

Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 03/12/2015 9:06 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> A "hybrid" means a spinoff from other cases of mass murder. "Like a
>> cancer," says Dr. O'Toole, "this crime is moving and growing in
>> insidious ways, and is resistant to 'treatment.'"
> 
> Isn't it obvious what the treatment is? Gun laws. America has got its 
> head in the sand about its 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. Nothing in 
> about the 2nd Amendment prevents governments from passing common-sense 
> gun laws, governments are paralysed by special interests from doing so.
> 
>        Yousuf Khan

As numerous existing gun laws, as well as existing laws about making
and possessing explosive devices, and existing law about murder were
ALL violated, what additional law do you thing would work?

People like this do not care about ANY laws.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#537434

From	"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date	2015-12-04 14:18 -0800
Message-ID	<c3d4e6ee-542f-45c5-84c6-91ba9e46ce1a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#537399

On Friday, December 4, 2015 at 11:16:06 AM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On 03/12/2015 9:06 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> >> A "hybrid" means a spinoff from other cases of mass murder. "Like a
> >> cancer," says Dr. O'Toole, "this crime is moving and growing in
> >> insidious ways, and is resistant to 'treatment.'"
> > 
> > Isn't it obvious what the treatment is? Gun laws. America has got its 
> > head in the sand about its 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. Nothing in 
> > about the 2nd Amendment prevents governments from passing common-sense 
> > gun laws, governments are paralysed by special interests from doing so.
> > 
> >        Yousuf Khan
> 
> As numerous existing gun laws, as well as existing laws about making
> and possessing explosive devices, and existing law about murder were
> ALL violated, what additional law do you thing would work?
> 
> People like this do not care about ANY laws.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jim Pennino

HAVAC benji,and Hanson would be first on the list.They are like all GOPers that kill children to save a buck.Killed JFK and Bobby to stay in power and steal trillions.Think Arrenberg Kissenger.Nixon,and Bush.Think Progress Energy.Think Severn Trent Water.Think Waste Management.Best foods with their Jack in the Box,and TANG Think Swift Packing Co.and how they made dog food out of Hoffer. 400 families control USA and their father is the Godfather.TreBert

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#537453

From	jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date	2015-12-04 23:11 +0000
Message-ID	<t5j9jc-vgg.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to	#537434

reber g=emc^2 <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, December 4, 2015 at 11:16:06 AM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > On 03/12/2015 9:06 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> >> A "hybrid" means a spinoff from other cases of mass murder. "Like a
>> >> cancer," says Dr. O'Toole, "this crime is moving and growing in
>> >> insidious ways, and is resistant to 'treatment.'"
>> > 
>> > Isn't it obvious what the treatment is? Gun laws. America has got its 
>> > head in the sand about its 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. Nothing in 
>> > about the 2nd Amendment prevents governments from passing common-sense 
>> > gun laws, governments are paralysed by special interests from doing so.
>> > 
>> >        Yousuf Khan
>> 
>> As numerous existing gun laws, as well as existing laws about making
>> and possessing explosive devices, and existing law about murder were
>> ALL violated, what additional law do you thing would work?
>> 
>> People like this do not care about ANY laws.
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Jim Pennino
> 
> HAVAC benji,and Hanson would be first on the list.They are like all GOPers that kill children to save a buck.Killed JFK and Bobby to stay in power and steal trillions.Think Arrenberg Kissenger.Nixon,and Bush.Think Progress Energy.Think Severn Trent Water.Think Waste Management.Best foods with their Jack in the Box,and TANG Think Swift Packing Co.and how they made dog food out of Hoffer. 400 families control USA and their father is the Godfather.TreBert

Sober up.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#537725

From	pend@indigo.ie
Date	2015-12-06 23:01 +0000
Message-ID	<vJ6dnULPrNDZI_nLnZ2dnUU7981i4p2d@giganews.com>
In reply to	#537399

jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 03/12/2015 9:06 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>> A "hybrid" means a spinoff from other cases of mass murder. "Like a
>>> cancer," says Dr. O'Toole, "this crime is moving and growing in
>>> insidious ways, and is resistant to 'treatment.'"
>>
>> Isn't it obvious what the treatment is? Gun laws. America has got its
>> head in the sand about its 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. Nothing in
>> about the 2nd Amendment prevents governments from passing common-sense
>> gun laws, governments are paralysed by special interests from doing so.
>>
>>         Yousuf Khan
>
> As numerous existing gun laws, as well as existing laws about making
> and possessing explosive devices, and existing law about murder were
> ALL violated, what additional law do you thing would work?
>
> People like this do not care about ANY laws.

Ban guns.

n
>
>

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#537736

From	jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date	2015-12-06 23:52 +0000
Message-ID	<pbuejc-tk4.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to	#537725

pend@indigo.ie wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On 03/12/2015 9:06 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>>> A "hybrid" means a spinoff from other cases of mass murder. "Like a
>>>> cancer," says Dr. O'Toole, "this crime is moving and growing in
>>>> insidious ways, and is resistant to 'treatment.'"
>>>
>>> Isn't it obvious what the treatment is? Gun laws. America has got its
>>> head in the sand about its 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. Nothing in
>>> about the 2nd Amendment prevents governments from passing common-sense
>>> gun laws, governments are paralysed by special interests from doing so.
>>>
>>>         Yousuf Khan
>>
>> As numerous existing gun laws, as well as existing laws about making
>> and possessing explosive devices, and existing law about murder were
>> ALL violated, what additional law do you thing would work?
>>
>> People like this do not care about ANY laws.
> 
> Ban guns.
 
Bombs are already banned and we can all see how much good that does.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#537516

From	jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Date	2015-12-05 14:02 +0000
Message-ID	<PM0005262749C1C858@aca42885.ipt.aol.com>
In reply to	#537342

Yousuf Khan wrote:
> On 03/12/2015 9:06 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> A "hybrid" means a spinoff from other cases of mass murder. "Like a
>> cancer," says Dr. O'Toole, "this crime is moving and growing in
>> insidious ways, and is resistant to 'treatment.'"
>
> Isn't it obvious what the treatment is? Gun laws. America has got its
> head in the sand about its 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. Nothing in
> about the 2nd Amendment prevents governments from passing common-sense
> gun laws, governments are paralysed by special interests from doing so.

If your wish if fulfilled, then the only people who will have guns
are the same people you are trying to prevent having guns.  Chicago
is an example.  Only crooks and gangs have guns; regular people have
no protection.

/BAH

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#537548

From	PolicySpy <pintell@hotmail.com>
Date	2015-12-05 10:41 -0800
Message-ID	<54f448f6-52a2-48b1-98cb-bc635942651e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#537516

jmfbahciv responding to Khan:

> If ... wish if fulfilled, then the only people who will have guns
> are the same people you are trying to prevent having guns.  Chicago
> is an example.  Only crooks and gangs have guns; regular people have
> no protection.
> 

PolicySpy writes:

The problem with blaming guns for the mass shootings is that it is just a cover-up of the real problem.

And here I am talking about shootings that are not international terrorism. The problem is that U.S. society has become too constrained and too much of a peer-pressure society. It had begun when the school shootings (by students) began. Anyone can become a goat over anything. Creativity, bravo, independent developer or inventor, editorial or stand on issue, and so on.

A militaristic attitude of U.S. society is something else and new. It's scary and shocking but this group of people have broken away from too much constraint. And basically it's just an attitude that is displayed
.

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#537653

From	jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Date	2015-12-06 15:07 +0000
Message-ID	<PM0005263C5E0A94D1@aca40775.ipt.aol.com>
In reply to	#537548

PolicySpy wrote:
> jmfbahciv responding to Khan:
>
>
>> If ... wish if fulfilled, then the only people who will have guns
>> are the same people you are trying to prevent having guns.  Chicago
>> is an example.  Only crooks and gangs have guns; regular people have
>> no protection.
>>
>
>
> PolicySpy writes:
>
>
> The problem with blaming guns for the mass shootings is that it is just a
cover-up of the real problem.
>
> And here I am talking about shootings that are not international terrorism.
The problem is that U.S. society has become too constrained and too much of a
peer-pressure society. It had begun when the school shootings (by students)
began.

Note that schools are gun-free zones so nobody can defend themselves if
someone is killing people in those schools.

>Anyone can become a goat over anything. Creativity, bravo, independent
developer or inventor, editorial or stand on issue, and so on.
>
> A militaristic attitude of U.S. society is something else and new. It's
scary and shocking but this group of people have broken away from too much
constraint. And basically it's just an attitude that is displayed

What militaristic attitude?  I don't see any.  The only people being
trained are those who decide to get a job in the military; even
cops are being forced to not shoot even when they should.

/BAH

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#537690

From	PolicySpy <pintell@hotmail.com>
Date	2015-12-06 11:05 -0800
Message-ID	<02668f80-fba0-4e3d-8079-3e668a032660@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#537653

jmfbahciv wrote:

>What militaristic attitude?  I don't see any.  The only people being
> trained are those who decide to get a job in the military; even
> cops are being forced to not shoot even when they should.
>

PolicySpy writes:

People that have been in war zones but are back home, talk about their "orders" and "the enemy". They suggest debate on issues as "traitors". Among themselves they talk about taking action. They suggest that the military is really in charge and not the legal system. It's just an attitude and a carry-over from war zones.

But I wouldn't want to replace a subtle and insulting peer-pressure society with a towering and powerful fascist society. (Fascism just means that the military is in charge of the government.)

Another example are the Trump supporters. Trump wants to deport the minimum wage workers and wants to register Muslims. Basically, Trump just knew that there was a segment of the population that could be grabbed.

As for the police, I know of seminars of years ago that emphasized not making mistakes with police gun use. The current seminars emphasize the right to shoot by the police and the legal stands to take when the shooting is investigated.

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From	jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date	2015-12-06 19:32 +0000
Message-ID	<j3fejc-f83.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to	#537690

PolicySpy <pintell@hotmail.com> wrote:
> jmfbahciv wrote:
> 
>>What militaristic attitude?  I don't see any.  The only people being
>> trained are those who decide to get a job in the military; even
>> cops are being forced to not shoot even when they should.
>>
> 
> 
> PolicySpy writes:
> 
> 
> People that have been in war zones but are back home, talk about their "orders" and "the enemy". They suggest debate on issues as "traitors". Among themselves they talk about taking action. They suggest that the military is really in charge and not the legal system. It's just an attitude and a carry-over from war zones.
> 

Utter nonsense.

<snip remaining babbling nonsense>


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#537720

From	PolicySpy <pintell@hotmail.com>
Date	2015-12-06 14:46 -0800
Message-ID	<916eb3ab-e336-415e-a2e2-ff068007aa9a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#537698

Jim Pennino wrote:

> 
> Utter nonsense.
> 
> <snip remaining babbling nonsense>
> 


PolicySpy writes:

A frustration by military personnel who are back civilian life is just an attitude or not ?

I think Jim often has no point but just whatever corner he has painted himself into.

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