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I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu.

Started byJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
First post2015-08-04 00:39 -0700
Last post2015-08-05 06:54 -0400
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  I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 00:39 -0700
    Start Killer (StartKiller.COM) removes Win10's Start Button. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 08:26 -0700
    Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 17:07 +0000
      Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 12:22 -0500
        Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 14:31 -0500
          You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 12:39 -0700
            Re: You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 14:53 -0500
              Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 14:46 -0700
                Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 17:08 -0500
                  Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 22:13 +0000
                    Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 18:42 -0500
                Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 15:11 -0700
                  Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 17:15 -0700
                Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-05 07:56 -0400
                  "The Bachelor" (on the TV show) is a prissy bottom. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-05 10:45 -0700
                Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 14:06 +0000
                  Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:13 -0400
                    Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 14:31 +0000
                      Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:06 -0400
                        Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 17:26 +0200
                          Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:29 -0400
                            Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 15:42 +0000
                              Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 12:00 -0400
                                Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 16:11 +0000
                                  Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 12:37 -0400
                                    Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 18:51 +0200
                                      Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 12:59 -0400
                                        Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 19:04 +0200
                                          Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 17:48 +0000
                                            Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 20:07 +0200
                                              Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 18:09 +0000
                                                Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:26 -0400
                                                  Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 19:30 +0000
                                                    Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-05 12:44 -0700
                                                    Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 15:50 -0400
                                                    Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-05 15:47 -0700
                                                    Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-07 14:14 -0500
                                                Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:21 -0500
                                            Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 13:28 -0500
                                              Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 19:33 +0000
                                                Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:40 -0500
                                                  Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 15:55 -0400
                                                    Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 20:28 +0000
                                                      Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 15:37 -0500
                                                        Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 07:01 -0400
                                                  Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 20:33 +0000
                          What's better: a pen or a pencil ?  Salvador Dali used both. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-05 11:17 -0700
                            Re: What's better: a pen or a pencil ?  Salvador Dali used both. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:31 -0400
                              Re: What's better: a pen or a pencil ?  Salvador Dali used both. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 19:45 +0000
                            Re: What's better: a pen or a pencil ?  Salvador Dali used both. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 19:35 +0000
                  Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:21 -0500
                    Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 17:02 +0200
                      Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:26 -0400
            Re: You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 21:20 +0000
            Re: You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it. Rock Brentwood <federation2005@netzero.com> - 2015-08-04 15:46 -0700
              Show us your source code. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 17:26 -0700
              Show us your source code. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 17:29 -0700
          Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Rock Brentwood <federation2005@netzero.com> - 2015-08-04 15:40 -0700
            Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-04 22:59 +0000
            Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 23:00 +0000
              Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 18:45 -0500
        Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 01:38 -0400
      Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 13:46 -0400
      Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 11:31 -0700
        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-08-04 13:54 -0700
          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 21:16 +0000
            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 16:26 -0500
              Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-04 21:35 +0000
                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 16:50 -0500
                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 07:57 -0400
              Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-04 21:38 +0000
                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 23:36 -0700
              Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 21:48 +0000
                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 16:53 -0500
                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 22:08 +0000
                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 17:28 -0500
                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 22:47 +0000
                        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 18:06 -0500
                          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 18:52 -0500
                          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-05 00:22 +0000
                        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-07 07:50 -0500
                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-07 11:45 -0500
            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 17:10 -0500
              Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 15:21 -0700
                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 22:37 +0000
                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 18:56 -0500
                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-05 08:11 -0400
                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 08:09 -0500
                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:24 -0400
                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:09 -0500
                        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:03 -0400
                          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:10 -0500
                            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:22 -0400
                            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:30 -0400
                              Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:34 -0500
                          Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-05 11:03 -0700
                          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 04:18 -0500
                            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-06 17:48 +0000
                              Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 07:59 -0500
                                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 08:42 -0500
                                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-07 17:35 +0000
                                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 13:57 -0500
                                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-07 19:44 +0000
                                        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 15:03 -0500
                                          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-07 20:23 +0000
                                            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 15:45 -0500
                                              Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-07 21:05 +0000
                                                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 16:38 -0500
                                                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-07 16:04 -0700
                                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 13:59 -0500
                                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 14:00 -0500
                                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 18:19 -0500
                                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-07 16:46 -0700
                                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 18:17 -0500
                                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-08 01:01 +0000
                                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-07 19:03 -0700
                                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 03:38 -0500
                        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-05 21:05 +0000
                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 13:51 +0000
                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:56 -0500
                        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:32 -0400
                        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 18:07 +0000
                          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Apollyon <adravirgo@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:11 -0700
                          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:05 -0500
                            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 13:16 -0700
                            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 20:45 +0000
                              Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 16:52 -0500
                                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 22:26 +0000
                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 01:24 -0400
                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 05:43 -0400
                        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 07:43 -0500
                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-05 10:10 -0700
              Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 16:30 -0700
                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 08:05 -0400
                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:50 -0700
                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 18:00 +0000
                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:00 -0500
                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "Buck Futter" <invalid@example.com> - 2015-08-05 22:35 -0700
                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 01:50 -0700
                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 04:18 -0500
          I'm watching you right now. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 14:19 -0700
            Re: I'm watching you right now. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 16:36 -0500
            Re: I'm watching you right now. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-08-04 17:16 -0700
              Ubuntu Spyware: What to do? Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 17:41 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu Spyware: What to do? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-08-06 12:29 -0700
              Re: I'm watching you right now. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 03:47 +0000
                Re: I'm watching you right now. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:11 -0500
                  Re: I'm watching you right now. R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-05 21:22 +0000
                    Re: I'm watching you right now. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-06 00:53 +0000
          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 08:55 -0500
            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-05 21:30 +0000
        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "Mahipal" <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 17:44 -0700
          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 18:01 -0700
      Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-04 14:34 -0500
        Indirectly, you (chrisv) see my posts. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 12:46 -0700
      Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 06:54 -0400

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#511123 — I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu.

FromJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
Date2015-08-04 00:39 -0700
SubjectI prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.4{0.39A.Seattle.2015}>
I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu.

I never see the Start Screen (Metro), by the way.

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#511168 — Start Killer (StartKiller.COM) removes Win10's Start Button.

FromJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
Date2015-08-04 08:26 -0700
SubjectStart Killer (StartKiller.COM) removes Win10's Start Button.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.4{8.26A.Seattle.2015}>
In reply to#511123
<PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A !important;'><big><big> 
> I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu.
> I never see the Start Screen (Metro), by the way.

Start Killer (StartKiller.COM) removes Win10's Start Button.

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#511183

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-08-04 17:07 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.08.04.17.07.08@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#511123
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 00:39:58 -0700, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:

> I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu.
> 

The Start Menu was specifically created by Microsoft, at great expense,
to accommodate mental retards.

This is an undeniable historic fact.  Microsoft commissioned psychological
experts ($$$) to observe the behavior of test subjects representing the common
user, i.e. retards.  After intensive study the conclusion was that a
"Start" button or menu was essential in allowing access for the common
user, i.e. retards.

So what's Jeffie, the retard, gonna do without his Start Menu?  He will,
like all retards, just sit there and stare at the empty screen with his
mouth hanging open while drooling all over his shirt.

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#511184

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-04 12:22 -0500
Message-ID<lYidnYNjYINuaV3InZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#511183
On 8/4/15 12:07 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> The Start Menu was specifically created by Microsoft, at great expense,
> to accommodate mental retards.

   Is that so...


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#511208

Fromgilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-08-04 14:31 -0500
Message-ID<mpr3tr$b6q$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#511184
On 8/4/2015 12:22 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 8/4/15 12:07 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
>> The Start Menu was specifically created by Microsoft, at great expense,
>> to accommodate mental retards.
>
>    Is that so...
>

Microsoft is composed of 3rd world mental retards doing contract work, 
everyone has known that for years.

There are vast areas of code in Win8 and Win10 that no one knows how it 
works, because the turnover rate of Microsoft software people is in the 
60% to 75% range.

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#511212 — You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it.

FromJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
Date2015-08-04 12:39 -0700
SubjectYou don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.4{0.39P.Seattle.2015}>
In reply to#511208
gilber34 wrote:
> Microsoft is composed of 3rd world mental retards 
> doing contract work, everyone has known that for years.
> 
> There are vast areas of code in Win8 and Win10 
> that no one knows how it works, because the turnover rate 
> of Microsoft software people is in the 60% to 75% range.

I doubt that _all_ managers/programmers are shit.

You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it;
in fact, they often do so. Case in point:

  My C# macros, to automate Visual Studio 2015:

  Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM

  Yes, I had to rewrite my VS_2010 macros;
  but it's nice to have them in C# now,
  instead of "Visual Basic for Applications".

  Also, now I can write extensions too.
  Overall, it's been a wonderful improvement.

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#511217 — Re: You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it.

Fromgilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-08-04 14:53 -0500
SubjectRe: You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it.
Message-ID<mpr587$f7g$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#511212
On 8/4/2015 2:39 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> gilber34 wrote:
>> Microsoft is composed of 3rd world mental retards
>> doing contract work, everyone has known that for years.
>>
>> There are vast areas of code in Win8 and Win10
>> that no one knows how it works, because the turnover rate
>> of Microsoft software people is in the 60% to 75% range.
>
> I doubt that _all_ managers/programmers are shit.

it is not that they are shit,
it is cost control for microsoft,
coupled with having to work 50 hour weeks or more, a no life at home thing.
burn them out and don't give them much of a raise.

>
> You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it;
> in fact, they often do so. Case in point:
>
>    My C# macros, to automate Visual Studio 2015:
>
>    Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM
>
>    Yes, I had to rewrite my VS_2010 macros;
>    but it's nice to have them in C# now,
>    instead of "Visual Basic for Applications".
>
>    Also, now I can write extensions too.
>    Overall, it's been a wonderful improvement.
>

that is good idea

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#511247 — Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

FromJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
Date2015-08-04 14:46 -0700
SubjectTrite Hedonism. Quite Trite.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.4{2.46P.Seattle.2015}>
In reply to#511217
gilber34 wrote:
> > I doubt that _all_ managers/programmers are shit.
> 
> it is not that they are shit,
> it is cost control for microsoft,
> coupled with having to work 50 hour weeks or more,
> a no life at home thing.
> 
> burn them out and don't give them much of a raise.

Programming is fun !  
There's _nothing_ that I'd rather be doing.

As for money, who cares ?

Once you have the necessities, 
-- and we _all_ do, thanks to the welfare state --
everything else is just trite hedonism.

Quite Trite.

I don't want a "roomate" or "wife", by the way;
especially not one that wants me to fund _her_ hedonism.

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#511258 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

Fromgilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-08-04 17:08 -0500
SubjectRe: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.
Message-ID<mprd5p$329$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#511247
On 8/4/2015 4:46 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> gilber34 wrote:
>>> I doubt that _all_ managers/programmers are shit.
>>
>> it is not that they are shit,
>> it is cost control for microsoft,
>> coupled with having to work 50 hour weeks or more,
>> a no life at home thing.
>>
>> burn them out and don't give them much of a raise.
>
> Programming is fun !
> There's _nothing_ that I'd rather be doing.
>
> As for money, who cares ?
>
> Once you have the necessities,
> -- and we _all_ do, thanks to the welfare state --
> everything else is just trite hedonism.
>
> Quite Trite.
>
> I don't want a "roomate" or "wife", by the way;
> especially not one that wants me to fund _her_ hedonism.
>

"women" - better to move to the EU, South America, Russia, or Eastern 
Europe, Australia, New Zealand, etc, for pay for service.

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#511264 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-08-04 22:13 +0000
SubjectRe: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.
Message-ID<pan.2015.08.04.22.13.44@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#511258
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 17:08:50 -0500, gilber34 wrote:

>>
>> I don't want a "roomate" or "wife", by the way;
>> especially not one that wants me to fund _her_ hedonism.
>>
> 
> "women" - better to move to the EU, South America, Russia, or Eastern 
> Europe, Australia, New Zealand, etc, for pay for service.
>

He has a woman.  Her name is Cortana.

All Microsoft needs now is a gay digital assistant, say Cory, and they
cannot lose.

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#511281 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

Fromgilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-08-04 18:42 -0500
SubjectRe: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.
Message-ID<mprilr$d95$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#511264
On 8/4/2015 5:13 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 17:08:50 -0500, gilber34 wrote:
>
>>>
>>> I don't want a "roomate" or "wife", by the way;
>>> especially not one that wants me to fund _her_ hedonism.
>>>
>>
>> "women" - better to move to the EU, South America, Russia, or Eastern
>> Europe, Australia, New Zealand, etc, for pay for service.
>>
>
> He has a woman.  Her name is Cortana.
>
> All Microsoft needs now is a gay digital assistant, say Cory, and they
> cannot lose.
>

yea, that  assistant is gay already;


http://assets.gcflearnfree.org/topics/2/off_assistant_help.gif

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#511261 — Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

FromJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
Date2015-08-04 15:11 -0700
SubjectTrite Hedonism. Quite Trite.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.4{3.11P.Seattle.2015}>
In reply to#511247
You (DFS) told me:
> President DFS would put a bullet in the head of 
> all welfare recipients that scam society 
> and refuse to work and pay their own way.
> 
> Who do I bill for your bullet, Relf?

You're _not_ the president, nor will you ever be.
You hate "niggers" (your word, not mine); it's extreme.

I don't get welfare, I don't need it.
I've told you this, a hundred times,
but you refuse to believe it.

Socialism, working for the common good, is good;
so good, in fact, that _all_ rich nations do it.
The richer the nation (e.g. Norway), the more they do it.

After that, it's capitalism, to wit:

  Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite.

Think about it, DFS, you're a pig. 

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#511289 — Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

FromJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
Date2015-08-04 17:15 -0700
SubjectTrite Hedonism. Quite Trite.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.4{5.15P.Seattle.2015}>
In reply to#511261
Replying to me, you (DFS) wrote:
> > I don't get welfare, I don't need it.
> > I've told you this, a hundred times,
> > but you refuse to believe it.
> 
> I don't believe it because in Mar 2012 you said:
> " I get food stamps ( $200 / month ) because my income is low, 
>   not because I'm "wacked⋅out ".
> 
> Food stamps are welfare.

Is today March 2012 ? !  I had no idea.

What a miserable fuckup you are.

> > You're _not_ the president, nor will you ever be.
> > You hate "niggers" (your word, not mine); it's extreme.
> 
> Other than to explain what 'nigger-rigged' means, 
> I've never used that word on cola.

I doubt that.
You called them "monkeys" and worse.
Please clarify: What do you think of them ? ?

> > Socialism, working for the common good, is good;
> > so good, in fact, that _all_ rich nations do it.
> > The richer the nation (e.g. Norway), the more they do it.
> >
> > After that, it's capitalism, to wit:
> >
> >    Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite.
> >
> > Think about it, DFS, you're a pig.
> 
> Not at all - I just live well.  
> The opposite of how you live: surrounded 
> by other low-income wackjobs in a boarding house.

I manage a _rooming_ house.

You're a thousand time more "wacked".

I'm happy; you're fucked, way fucked.

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#511342 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

From"A.M" <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-08-05 07:56 -0400
SubjectRe: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.
Message-ID<mpstj2$6ul$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#511247
On 2015-08-04 5:46 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> gilber34 wrote:
>>> I doubt that _all_ managers/programmers are shit.
>>
>> it is not that they are shit,
>> it is cost control for microsoft,
>> coupled with having to work 50 hour weeks or more,
>> a no life at home thing.
>>
>> burn them out and don't give them much of a raise.
> 
> Programming is fun !  
> There's _nothing_ that I'd rather be doing.
> 
> As for money, who cares ?
> 
> Once you have the necessities, 
> -- and we _all_ do, thanks to the welfare state --
> everything else is just trite hedonism.
> 
> Quite Trite.
> 
> I don't want a "roomate" or "wife", by the way;
> especially not one that wants me to fund _her_ hedonism.

You're not married, Jeff? I'm shocked! I would have seen you as the next
Bachelor.


-- 
A.M

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#511415 — "The Bachelor" (on the TV show) is a prissy bottom.

FromJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
Date2015-08-05 10:45 -0700
Subject"The Bachelor" (on the TV show) is a prissy bottom.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.5{10.45A.Seattle.2015}>
In reply to#511342
Replying to me, you (A_M) wrote:
> > I don't want a "roomate" or "wife", by the way;
> > especially not one that wants me to fund _her_ hedonism.
> 
> You're not married, Jeff? I'm shocked! 
> I would have seen you as the next Bachelor.

"The Bachelor" (on the TV show) is a prissy bottom.
UrbanDictionary.COM/define.php?term=bottom

More marriages would happen if "his women" were dikes.

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#511356 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-08-05 14:06 +0000
SubjectRe: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.
Message-ID<pan.2015.08.05.14.06.13@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#511247
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 14:46:31 -0700, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:

> 
> Programming is fun !  
> There's _nothing_ that I'd rather be doing.
> 

LOL!  You are not programming.  You only think that you are programming.

Although you have not given any details, in all likelihood this "programming"
that you mention involves coding in Microsoft C#/.NET.

Coding in C#, or any other object oriented language, is *not* programming.
It is only arranging predetermined classes like a child will arrange 
toy blocks.

Real programming involves a low-level language such as C or even assembly
language to create complex digital structures based on fundamental elements
that address some problem.  That's not what takes place when employing C#.

Real programming involves an actual insight into and an understanding of
digital principles.  That's not what takes place when employing C#.

You are fooling yourself.  Using C# for "programming" is analogous to using
a paint-by-numbers kit to produce "art."

Real men use C or assembly.

Pussies use C#.

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#511359 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

From"Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
Date2015-08-05 10:13 -0400
SubjectRe: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.
Message-ID<mpt5ii$8vp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#511356
"Fabian Russell" <root@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message 
news:pan.2015.08.05.14.06.13@localhost.localdomain...
> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 14:46:31 -0700, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>
>>
>> Programming is fun !
>> There's _nothing_ that I'd rather be doing.
>>
>
> LOL!  You are not programming.  You only think that you are programming.
>
> Although you have not given any details, in all likelihood this 
> "programming"
> that you mention involves coding in Microsoft C#/.NET.
>
> Coding in C#, or any other object oriented language, is *not* programming.
> It is only arranging predetermined classes like a child will arrange
> toy blocks.
>
> Real programming involves a low-level language such as C or even assembly
> language to create complex digital structures based on fundamental 
> elements
> that address some problem.  That's not what takes place when employing C#.
>
> Real programming involves an actual insight into and an understanding of
> digital principles.  That's not what takes place when employing C#.
>
> You are fooling yourself.  Using C# for "programming" is analogous to 
> using
> a paint-by-numbers kit to produce "art."
>
> Real men use C or assembly.
>
> Pussies use C#.
>

Idiot. Plain and simple.


> "Coding in C#, or any other object oriented language, is *not* 
> programming."

Yet programmers who would wipe the floor with a dimwit like you manage to do 
"real programming" with object oriented languages every day.

-- 
"Another one who seems to think an MD5 sum is an MD5 hash"

Chris Ahlstrom - trying hard to be technical when in reality he once again 
has no clue what he's talking about.
Message-ID: <ku2h12$lr3$1@dont-email.me>
9 Aug 2013





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#511364 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-08-05 14:31 +0000
SubjectRe: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.
Message-ID<pan.2015.08.05.14.31.36@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#511359
On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 10:13:07 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:

> 
> Yet programmers who would wipe the floor with a dimwit like you manage to do 
> "real programming" with object oriented languages every day.
>

That's because real programmers wrote the classes that are then
blindly utilized by the pseudo-programming C# crowd.

If a C# coder had to write his own classes ... forget about it.

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#511374 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

From"Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
Date2015-08-05 11:06 -0400
SubjectRe: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.
Message-ID<mpt8n0$lun$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#511364
"Fabian Russell" <root@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message 
news:pan.2015.08.05.14.31.36@localhost.localdomain...
> On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 10:13:07 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>>
>> Yet programmers who would wipe the floor with a dimwit like you manage to 
>> do
>> "real programming" with object oriented languages every day.
>>
>
> That's because real programmers wrote the classes that are then
> blindly utilized by the pseudo-programming C# crowd.
>
> If a C# coder had to write his own classes ... forget about it.
>

You didn't limit this to C# programming. Your idiotic claim was:

   > Coding in C#, or any other object oriented language,
   > is *not* programming.  It is only arranging predetermined
   > classes like a child will arrange toy blocks.

Note the "any other object oriented language" part.

So in your tiny mind the person who implements yet another string-class or 
hashtable is a "real programmer" and real-man. But the person who uses for 
example Java classes to build a transactional distributed data processing 
system isn't really a programmer.

In your world idiots who keep re-inventing the same wheel by writing more 
string classes, more collection classes, etc are "real programmers." But the 
developers who write Libre Office, GIMP, etc are not "real programmers" 
because they're only "arranging predetermined classes like a child will 
arrange toy blocks."

Like I said before. You're a clueless idiot. Plain and simple.

-- 
"I've done for example SQL optimization and the reason I could do it better 
than the best high level experts can do was because I think in hex and bits 
and byte movements. If you know the assembler in detail, you would know what 
"select * from employees" would translate into assembler and how different 
and yet similar that would be from "select name from employees"

Babbling idiot "7"
March 7, 2012
<qAN5r.607$ya.432@newsfe03.ams2>


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#511378 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

FromMelzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
Date2015-08-05 17:26 +0200
SubjectRe: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.
Message-ID<20150805172614.56bb9be0@maxa-pc>
In reply to#511374
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 11:06:40 -0400
"Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:

> 
> "Fabian Russell" <root@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message 
> news:pan.2015.08.05.14.31.36@localhost.localdomain...
> > On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 10:13:07 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Yet programmers who would wipe the floor with a dimwit like you
> >> manage to do
> >> "real programming" with object oriented languages every day.
> >>
> >
> > That's because real programmers wrote the classes that are then
> > blindly utilized by the pseudo-programming C# crowd.
> >
> > If a C# coder had to write his own classes ... forget about it.
> >
> 
> You didn't limit this to C# programming. Your idiotic claim was:
> 
>    > Coding in C#, or any other object oriented language,
>    > is *not* programming.  It is only arranging predetermined
>    > classes like a child will arrange toy blocks.
> 
> Note the "any other object oriented language" part.
> 
> So in your tiny mind the person who implements yet another
> string-class or hashtable is a "real programmer" and real-man. But
> the person who uses for example Java classes to build a transactional
> distributed data processing system isn't really a programmer.
> 
> In your world idiots who keep re-inventing the same wheel by writing
> more string classes, more collection classes, etc are "real
> programmers." But the developers who write Libre Office, GIMP, etc
> are not "real programmers" because they're only "arranging
> predetermined classes like a child will arrange toy blocks."
> 
> Like I said before. You're a clueless idiot. Plain and simple.
> 

Actually he is not. I know at least one C# programmer who is not
capable to grasp algorithm if there is no handy class around.
So actually if there is trivial solution to problem, such programmer
would rather use some complex class, which does same thing, but with
bloat, simply because he is not capable to come with algorithm.

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