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| First post | 2018-04-08 01:43 -0700 |
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IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-08 01:43 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-08 12:09 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-08 05:57 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-08 13:56 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-08 10:34 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-08 20:36 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-08 16:59 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 02:09 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-08 21:56 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-09 03:13 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 11:13 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 11:13 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-09 05:26 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 17:35 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-09 11:22 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 11:31 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-09 18:41 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 11:47 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-09 18:58 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 12:48 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-09 21:07 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 00:45 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 01:03 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-10 15:40 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 08:50 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 16:01 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-10 16:32 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-10 01:10 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-10 01:22 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 01:57 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-10 03:19 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 11:13 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-10 05:09 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-10 15:30 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 08:42 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-10 16:27 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 20:06 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 13:21 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-09 21:19 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-09 21:19 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-09 21:26 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-09 23:08 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 21:32 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 07:45 -0500
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 06:37 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 13:59 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 07:10 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 14:17 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 07:36 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 15:57 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-10 11:12 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 18:36 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 11:50 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 19:02 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 13:13 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 20:18 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 13:22 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 20:59 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 14:06 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 22:55 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-10 23:58 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-10 21:58 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 22:06 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-10 23:49 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-11 13:21 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-11 11:37 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-11 11:49 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-11 11:59 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-10 21:52 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 11:39 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-10 15:50 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-10 15:46 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 11:44 -0500
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 11:41 -0500
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 19:57 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 07:44 -0500
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! "Boner J. Skidmark" <ForgyMcForgeFace@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-10 07:11 -0700
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-04-10 23:58 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <pajj2k$4i7$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #680671 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Odd >"don=E2=80=99t have a model in a form I can digest, and it=E2=80=99s your f= >ault that you=20 >expect people to learn math to be able to follow it.=E2=80=9D That way, th= >e nature " >You don't have a model that translates. >Into anything. >You're dreaming John, you are like a man with a hedge which needs trimming. Your neighbor is using a small lawnmower to cut the lawn. You complain to the neighbor "that's an _awful_ hedge trimmer, it's heavy and hard to control when someone has to lift it to cut hedges." The neighbor says: "That's because it's not a hedge trimmer!" Just because both are machines that cuts vegetation doesn't mean you can use one for the other! John, the science model is there to describe science, to figure out the rules Nature sets for herself. It's not there to generate pretty animated gifs. Sure, at times perhaps an animated gif might be useful, for example, an animation of two black holes merging. But you seem to think everything must be gifs or something. Physics has substantial math. Particle physics in particular has lots of icky math, and your animated gifs are of very little use. (which is because particle physics is NOT little balls bouncing off of each other)
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| From | poraty149@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-04-10 21:58 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <428485a3-c531-4fde-8480-bb9c41e28fdb@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680700 |
On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 2:58:15 AM UTC+3, Michael Moroney wrote: > john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: > > >Odd > >"don=E2=80=99t have a model in a form I can digest, and it=E2=80=99s your f= > >ault that you=20 > >expect people to learn math to be able to follow it.=E2=80=9D That way, th= > >e nature " > > >You don't have a model that translates. > >Into anything. > >You're dreaming > > John, you are like a man with a hedge which needs trimming. Your neighbor > is using a small lawnmower to cut the lawn. You complain to the neighbor > "that's an _awful_ hedge trimmer, it's heavy and hard to control when > someone has to lift it to cut hedges." The neighbor says: "That's because > it's not a hedge trimmer!" Just because both are machines that cuts > vegetation doesn't mean you can use one for the other! > > John, the science model is there to describe science, to figure out the > rules Nature sets for herself. It's not there to generate pretty animated > gifs. Sure, at times perhaps an animated gif might be useful, for example, > an animation of two black holes merging. But you seem to think everything > must be gifs or something. Physics has substantial math. Particle > physics in particular has lots of icky math, and your animated gifs are > of very little use. (which is because particle physics is NOT little balls > bouncing off of each other) ================== MICHEL Moroney did God nominated you to be the 'SANSHO PANTCHIO ''' of Bodkin PD ?? ============== Y.Porat ============================
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-10 22:06 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <19705bc4-fc86-4861-9808-a789eceb7132@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680729 |
Porat " MICHEL Moroney did God nominated you to be the 'SANSHO PANTCHIO ''' of Bodkin PD ?? " They be besties
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| From | poraty149@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-04-10 23:49 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <6399fc4d-2a8a-4f8c-aa5f-f80497db886f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680730 |
On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 8:06:47 AM UTC+3, john wrote: > Porat > " > MICHEL Moroney > did God nominated you to be the > 'SANSHO PANTCHIO ''' > of Bodkin PD ?? > " > They be besties ===================== John do you agree with my*** historic revolutionary** assertion : ========================================= HAD THERE NOT BEEN **ABSOLUTE EMPTY SPACES** - -NO MOTION -WAHTSOEVER- COULD BE DONE !!! ============================================= we have now an historic revolutionary assertion : ---- PD said even water waves has no empty space to 'squeeze themselves '' but he forgot that they move ,,,,.......UPWARDS !! in which only air is found but still the same with air if it cant expand horizontal it expands ... upwards to ....even BODKIN can now start understanding it! ======== now the impotent point to extract from it is THE VERY FACT THAT WE SEE MOTION IS A PROVE THER SOMEWHERE THERE IS*** ABSLOUE EMPTY SPACE ** no Aether no schmaeter just nothing !!!!! no curvature and no ''schmervature ' if so ??? what **is making forces there IN OUR UNIVERSE ??? THE PUNC ANSWER : **MASS ****IF EXIST THRE !!!!!! =========================================== NASS ** IS THE'MOTHER' OF ALL FORCES !!- -INCLUDING GRAVITY !!! ================================================ historic **revolutionary** physics BASIC assertion !! by ANONYMOUS' ENG Yehiel PORAT =====
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-11 13:21 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <pal24l$v4v$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #680732 |
<poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 8:06:47 AM UTC+3, john wrote: >> Porat >> " >> MICHEL Moroney >> did God nominated you to be the >> 'SANSHO PANTCHIO ''' >> of Bodkin PD ?? >> " >> They be besties > ===================== > John > do you agree with my*** historic > revolutionary** assertion : > ========================================= > > HAD THERE NOT BEEN **ABSOLUTE EMPTY SPACES** - > -NO MOTION -WAHTSOEVER- COULD BE DONE !!! > > > ============================================= > we have now an historic revolutionary assertion : > ---- > PD said > even water waves has no empty space to > 'squeeze themselves '' > but he forgot > that they move ,,,,.......UPWARDS !! > > in which only air is found > but still the same with air > if it cant expand horizontal > it expands ... upwards > to ....even BODKIN can now start understanding it! > ======== > now the impotent point to extract from it is > > THE VERY FACT THAT WE SEE MOTION > IS A PROVE THER > SOMEWHERE THERE IS*** ABSLOUE EMPTY SPACE ** > > no Aether no schmaeter > just nothing !!!!! > no curvature and no ''schmervature ' > if so ??? > what **is making forces there IN OUR UNIVERSE ??? > THE PUNC ANSWER : > **MASS ****IF EXIST THRE !!!!!! > =========================================== > NASS ** IS THE'MOTHER' OF ALL FORCES !!- > -INCLUDING GRAVITY !!! > ================================================ > historic **revolutionary** physics BASIC assertion !! > by > ANONYMOUS' > ENG > Yehiel PORAT > ===== > > > Atoms are not hard little BBs with empty space between them. Ask yourself how a solid can be compressible. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | poraty149@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-04-11 11:37 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <606f5fba-0105-4ec6-bc0d-9989137cde83@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680741 |
On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 4:21:31 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: > <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 8:06:47 AM UTC+3, john wrote: > >> Porat > >> " > >> MICHEL Moroney > >> did God nominated you to be the > >> 'SANSHO PANTCHIO ''' > >> of Bodkin PD ?? > >> " > >> They be besties > > ===================== > > John > > do you agree with my*** historic > > revolutionary** assertion : > > ========================================= > > > > HAD THERE NOT BEEN **ABSOLUTE EMPTY SPACES** - > > -NO MOTION -WAHTSOEVER- COULD BE DONE !!! > > > > > > ============================================= > > we have now an historic revolutionary assertion : > > ---- > > PD said > > even water waves has no empty space to > > 'squeeze themselves '' > > but he forgot > > that they move ,,,,.......UPWARDS !! > > > > in which only air is found > > but still the same with air > > if it cant expand horizontal > > it expands ... upwards > > to ....even BODKIN can now start understanding it! > > ======== > > now the impotent point to extract from it is > > > > THE VERY FACT THAT WE SEE MOTION > > IS A PROVE THER > > SOMEWHERE THERE IS*** ABSLOUE EMPTY SPACE ** > > > > no Aether no schmaeter > > just nothing !!!!! > > no curvature and no ''schmervature ' > > if so ??? > > what **is making forces there IN OUR UNIVERSE ??? > > THE PUNC ANSWER : > > **MASS ****IF EXIST THRE !!!!!! > > =========================================== > > NASS ** IS THE'MOTHER' OF ALL FORCES !!- > > -INCLUDING GRAVITY !!! > > ================================================ > > historic **revolutionary** physics BASIC assertion !! > > by > > ANONYMOUS' > > ENG > > Yehiel PORAT > > ===== > > > > > > > > Atoms are not hard little BBs ==================== thank you for your questions ''B B ??'' basket balls ?? did i ever say something like that ??? and as you know I don't just hand wave with words ..... =see my*** chain of orbitals system *** if you don't understand it -I will explain it (right at the beginning of my abstract) and **you** know well that it is only the abstract .....!! http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract === with empty space between them. quite a lot of empty space more than probably more than YES!!-- EMPTY SPACE BETWEEN IT'S COMPONENETS and neighbor particles --- > how a solid can be compressible. SEE ABOVE > > --- it is not the Atom as a little solid*** ball** that touch each other like tomatoes in a box as in your imagination the sub orbitals **are somehow flexible just to remind you I was once suggesting here in that n g -as the **eel*** model composed of sub particles !!(sub chain of orbitals!!! ie even the electron is not a ''little solid ball'' - === TIA Y.Porat ============================ > Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | poraty149@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-04-11 11:49 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <48fec858-34b9-428f-a4b7-d72c00f1443e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680780 |
On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 9:37:33 PM UTC+3, pora...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 4:21:31 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: > > <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 8:06:47 AM UTC+3, john wrote: > > >> Porat > > >> " > > >> MICHEL Moroney > > >> did God nominated you to be the > > >> 'SANSHO PANTCHIO ''' > > >> of Bodkin PD ?? > > >> " > > >> They be besties > > > ===================== > > > John > > > do you agree with my*** historic > > > revolutionary** assertion : > > > ========================================= > > > > > > HAD THERE NOT BEEN **ABSOLUTE EMPTY SPACES** - > > > -NO MOTION -WAHTSOEVER- COULD BE DONE !!! > > > > > > > > > ============================================= > > > we have now an historic revolutionary assertion : > > > ---- > > > PD said > > > even water waves has no empty space to > > > 'squeeze themselves '' > > > but he forgot > > > that they move ,,,,.......UPWARDS !! > > > > > > in which only air is found > > > but still the same with air > > > if it cant expand horizontal > > > it expands ... upwards > > > to ....even BODKIN can now start understanding it! > > > ======== > > > now the impotent point to extract from it is > > > > > > THE VERY FACT THAT WE SEE MOTION > > > IS A PROVE THER > > > SOMEWHERE THERE IS*** ABSLOUE EMPTY SPACE ** > > > > > > no Aether no schmaeter > > > just nothing !!!!! > > > no curvature and no ''schmervature ' > > > if so ??? > > > what **is making forces there IN OUR UNIVERSE ??? > > > THE PUNC ANSWER : > > > **MASS ****IF EXIST THRE !!!!!! > > > =========================================== > > > NASS ** IS THE'MOTHER' OF ALL FORCES !!- > > > -INCLUDING GRAVITY !!! > > > ================================================ > > > historic **revolutionary** physics BASIC assertion !! > > > by > > > ANONYMOUS' > > > ENG > > > Yehiel PORAT > > > ===== > > > > > > > > > > > > > Atoms are not hard little BBs > > > ==================== > thank you for your questions > ''B B ??'' > basket balls ?? > did i ever say something like that ??? > and as you know > I don't just hand wave with words ..... > > =see my*** chain of orbitals system *** > if you don't understand it -I will explain it > > (right at the beginning of my abstract) > and **you** know well that it is only the abstract .....!! > > http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract > > > === with empty space between them. quite a lot of empty space > > more than probably more than YES!!-- EMPTY SPACE BETWEEN IT'S COMPONENETS > and neighbor particles > --- > > > how a solid can be compressible. > SEE ABOVE > > > > --- > it is not the Atom as a little solid*** ball** > that touch each other like tomatoes in a box > as in your imagination > the sub orbitals **are somehow flexible > just to remind you > I was once suggesting here in that n g -as the **eel*** model > composed of sub particles !!(sub chain of orbitals!!! > ie > even the electron is not a ''little solid ball'' - > === > TIA > Y.Porat > ============================ > > > Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables ==================== I don't know why the ling is not opening http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract may be now .. ------- Y.P ===================
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| From | poraty149@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-04-11 11:59 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <0649793e-9783-4cab-8b1d-828446026380@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680786 |
On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 9:50:02 PM UTC+3, pora...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 9:37:33 PM UTC+3, pora...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 4:21:31 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: > > > <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 8:06:47 AM UTC+3, john wrote: > > > >> Porat > > > >> " > > > >> MICHEL Moroney > > > >> did God nominated you to be the > > > >> 'SANSHO PANTCHIO ''' > > > >> of Bodkin PD ?? > > > >> " > > > >> They be besties > > > > ===================== > > > > John > > > > do you agree with my*** historic > > > > revolutionary** assertion : > > > > ========================================= > > > > > > > > HAD THERE NOT BEEN **ABSOLUTE EMPTY SPACES** - > > > > -NO MOTION -WAHTSOEVER- COULD BE DONE !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================================= > > > > we have now an historic revolutionary assertion : > > > > ---- > > > > PD said > > > > even water waves has no empty space to > > > > 'squeeze themselves '' > > > > but he forgot > > > > that they move ,,,,.......UPWARDS !! > > > > > > > > in which only air is found > > > > but still the same with air > > > > if it cant expand horizontal > > > > it expands ... upwards > > > > to ....even BODKIN can now start understanding it! > > > > ======== > > > > now the impotent point to extract from it is > > > > > > > > THE VERY FACT THAT WE SEE MOTION > > > > IS A PROVE THER > > > > SOMEWHERE THERE IS*** ABSLOUE EMPTY SPACE ** > > > > > > > > no Aether no schmaeter > > > > just nothing !!!!! > > > > no curvature and no ''schmervature ' > > > > if so ??? > > > > what **is making forces there IN OUR UNIVERSE ??? > > > > THE PUNC ANSWER : > > > > **MASS ****IF EXIST THRE !!!!!! > > > > =========================================== > > > > NASS ** IS THE'MOTHER' OF ALL FORCES !!- > > > > -INCLUDING GRAVITY !!! > > > > ================================================ > > > > historic **revolutionary** physics BASIC assertion !! > > > > by > > > > ANONYMOUS' > > > > ENG > > > > Yehiel PORAT > > > > ===== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Atoms are not hard little BBs > > > > > > ==================== > > thank you for your questions > > ''B B ??'' > > basket balls ?? > > did i ever say something like that ??? > > and as you know > > I don't just hand wave with words ..... > > > > =see my*** chain of orbitals system *** > > if you don't understand it -I will explain it > > > > (right at the beginning of my abstract) > > and **you** know well that it is only the abstract .....!! > > > > http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract > > > > > > === with empty space between them. quite a lot of empty space > > > > more than probably more than YES!!-- EMPTY SPACE BETWEEN IT'S COMPONENETS > > and neighbor particles > > --- > > > > > how a solid can be compressible. > > SEE ABOVE > > > > > > --- > > it is not the Atom as a little solid*** ball** > > that touch each other like tomatoes in a box > > as in your imagination > > the sub orbitals **are somehow flexible > > just to remind you > > I was once suggesting here in that n g -as the **eel*** model > > composed of sub particles !!(sub chain of orbitals!!! > > ie > > even the electron is not a ''little solid ball'' - > > === > > TIA > > Y.Porat > > ============================ > > > > > Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables > ==================== > I don't know why the ling is not opening > > http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract > may be now .. > ------- > Y.P > =================== you have to 'click ' on that link at any case I am sure people saw it and even**** downloaded it** a lot some have even the whole book .....along more than 25 years !! ==== TIA Y.Porat =====================
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| From | poraty149@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-04-10 21:52 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <204ddb43-fc33-4e28-8d4b-412640521b43@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680630 |
On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 9:36:56 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: > <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 5:17:52 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: > >> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Odd > >>> > >>> BUS!!! > >>> > >>> Good. You're still with us. > >>> Busy woodworking, lately? I'm sure you were. > >>> > >>> If I mis-stated any of your opinions on Science, I'm sincerely sorry. But > >>> you have mis-stated mine, as well, many times, but on purpose, and you're not sorry. > >> > > >> > >> John, I ll remind you that you acknowledged that this statement is a lie. > >> In fact you said not too long ago, iirc, Ok, so you have a model. Big > >> whoop. So reverting to this lie so quickly is pretty egregious. > >> > > > ====================not only empty of persistent matter !!! > > we are talking about locations of space > > > > -IN WHICH **ZERO MATTER EXIST**!! > > NOT PERSISTENT AND NOR SCHMERSISTENT > > JUST NOTHING !! > > There isn’t anything like that in nature. > What you are imaging, a region of space completely devoid of anything, is > like a unicorn — just describing it doesn’t mean it is real. > > > CANT YOU BLOCK HEAD PARROT UNDESTAND > > THAT > > =====================================HAD THERE NOT BEEN LOCATIONS OF ABSOLUTE EMPTY SPACE > > -NO MOTION WAHTSOEVER -COULD BE DONE !! > > That’s simply not true. Not even in water. The water moves out of the way, ===================== idiot block P D head flat mathematics formula man don't you understands that while a wave is formed -THE WATER IS MOVING TO ..***.WHERE** .???!!! I WILL LEAVE IT TO YOUR RETARD CREATIVE IMMAGINATION IMBECILE DONT YOU UNDERSTND THAT: see as well the Pauli exclusion rule !! ====================== TIA Y.Porat ================================ ============================================= HAD THERE NOT BEEN LOCATIONS OF ABSOLUTE EMPTINESS NO MOTION WAHTSOEVER COULOD BE DONE !! FULL STOP !! a boy of secondary school can understand it !!! ====================================================== Y.Porat ============================
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-10 11:39 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <afd2b7ef-ed56-4de8-a84d-2f21adbe004b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680628 |
Lofty "On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 06:37:47 -0700 (PDT), john wrote: > ... fess up, PD.... John, Paul long since stopped posting here because he got tired of dealing with all the Seftons and Sefton manques. Long gone. Good guy, smart, recommends good books. " Well, Odd sounds just like him. So did Absolutely Vertical, The Wiz, Big Dog. But, if you insist... my experience may not be the same as yours.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-04-10 15:50 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <paimgm$v6l$4@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #680598 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Odd >BUS!!! It's a good think you live in a cabin in the woods on a lake, John. Not too many buses around to take you out. But be careful anyway.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-04-10 15:46 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <paim8o$v6l$3@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #680596 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Odd >"..to stop lying or not..." >I know that's ur big problem right now. >I say- lose the nym and fess up, PD Why is nearly every kook in sci.physics obsessed with the idea that nearly every non-kook here is a PD sock? Even years after he left??? (Oddly enough, I have been accused of being PD only a couple of times)
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| From | Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-10 11:44 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <eeqpcd96gri9u28e269ua6f1o0qo37vh8a@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #680607 |
On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 15:46:32 +0000 (UTC), moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) wrote: > (Oddly enough, I have been accused of being PD only a couple of times) Discursive style is too different. And nobody ever confused me with Paul because I'm not as bright as he is. [grin] -- Goat
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| From | Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-10 11:41 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <g4qpcdpen5pq1cudc04u4knoninkac6sso@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #680596 |
On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 06:37:47 -0700 (PDT), john wrote: > ... fess up, PD.... John, Paul long since stopped posting here because he got tired of dealing with all the Seftons and Sefton manques. Long gone. Good guy, smart, recommends good books. (Spell checker wanted to replace "manque" with "manure". I think it is becoming sentient.) -- Goat
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-09 19:57 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <paggj8$1gj0$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #680476 |
<poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: > On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 8:36:02 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 2:13:17 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 5:09:16 AM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>>>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 11:36:38 PM UTC+3, Of > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> space is nothing -and can not ''do' anything !! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What genie revealed this to you? >>>>>>>>>>> ======================> >>> odd >>>>>>>>>>> thank you for your question : >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I imagine that what I asserted above >>>>>>>>>>> was moving something in you intuitive curiosity >>>>>>>>>>> knowing me as not a complete idiot.. >>>>>>>>>>> and someone that has >>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables >>>>>>> >>>>>>> =========================you say that the dimension of space >>>>>>> is L^3 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> now a few questions about it : >>>>>>> 1 >>>>>>> that is all that you can say ** IS ** about >>>>>>> space ? and its dimensions >>>>>>> 2 >>>>>>> how you 'we - measure L^3 ? >>>>>> >>>>>> No, there is more you can say about space. You only asked about its >>>>>> dimensions. Not every property of a physical thing is derived from its >>>>>> dimensions. >>>>>> ====================> >>> Mr Smarty !!! >>>>> >>>>> I WAS ASKING ABOUT EMPTY SPACE !! >>>> >>> >>>> Yes. Empt6 space has properties, other than just dimensions. >>> >>> >>> ==================================> > (:-) >>> ok lets hear about the PHYSICAL properties of >>> **EMPY!!!!! SPACE'!!!! >>> OTHER THAN DIMENSIONS >> >> >> Youre kidding, right? >> >> Permittivity, permeability, impedance, electric field strength, > ===================================Hey odd > LET US SEE WHO IS KIDDING > before you detect electric field strength > > YOU HAVE TO DETECT THE ELECTRIC FOILD !!!!! > DOES IT HAVE NO PHYSICAL DIMENTIOMS ???? Electric field does have dimensions. Note that they aren’t [L]^3, which are the dimensions of empty space. Nevertheless, an electric field is a property of empty space. Note that to detect it, we typically put something material in there. But the electric field was there even before we put something in it. We didn’t create the electric field by the thing we put in it. > ]] > > magnetic >> field strength, electromagnetic energy density > > AS ABOVE !! > no physics dimensions ? > > > . And thats just for one >> sector of physical properties. All associated with any region of EMPTY > the magnitudes of properties > hey odd > the magnitude is not the the > physical phenomenon > is associated with the > physics entity that is associated with the > physical phenomenon ! I’m sorry but this isn’t true. When you design a detector to detect something, you don’t want the detector to CREATE the thing you’re trying to detect. In fact you want the detector to disturb what you’re measuring as little as possible. So when you measure the permeability of empty space, the idea is to use a detector that doesn’t significantly disturb that value at all. You don’t want to measure permeability of the detector, you want to measure the permeability of the space without any detector in it. It’s the whole point of measurement, to not affect the value by the method of measurement. > > if you have a ****lot** of money > that is as well a physics ***science** > phenomenon ??!! > > > =why not > you cant call the say' ***great** curiosity' of the > man how makes a physical experiment > as a''' sci /physics phenomenon > 2 > while you say > permeability'' > it IS ALWAYS *ASCOCLATED WITH > PERMEABILITY OF WAHT ???!! > > WAHT PHYSICAL ***ENTITY ?? > AND INOUR NG WE RTY TO DEAL TALK ABOUT **PHYSICAL ENTITIES !! > PHYSICS ENETITES > AGAIN **ENTITIES !!!!! > you don't ??? > = > > so > why not call the belly ake of a > physics sci phenomenon > >> space. >> >> Havent even gotten into the catalog of other properties in other sectors. >> >> Physical properties > =======not properties !!!! > -- PHYSICS entities > ENTITIES !!!!before properties > or else you are ***floating*** in the air > > (next day you will talk to me > about the price of one kilogram of iron... ) > > or the ** density**of the porridge you ate yesterday. > ''that has no 'physics dimensions''''. > ======= TIA > Y.Porat > ==================== > > > > > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-10 07:44 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <paibiv$h0c$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #680500 |
On 4/9/18 2:57 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote: > <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 8:36:02 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 2:13:17 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 5:09:16 AM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>>>>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 11:36:38 PM UTC+3, Of > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> space is nothing -and can not ''do' anything !! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> What genie revealed this to you? >>>>>>>>>>>> ======================> >>> odd >>>>>>>>>>>> thank you for your question : >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I imagine that what I asserted above >>>>>>>>>>>> was moving something in you intuitive curiosity >>>>>>>>>>>> knowing me as not a complete idiot.. >>>>>>>>>>>> and someone that has >>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> =========================you say that the dimension of space >>>>>>>> is L^3 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> now a few questions about it : >>>>>>>> 1 >>>>>>>> that is all that you can say ** IS ** about >>>>>>>> space ? and its dimensions >>>>>>>> 2 >>>>>>>> how you 'we - measure L^3 ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No, there is more you can say about space. You only asked about its >>>>>>> dimensions. Not every property of a physical thing is derived from its >>>>>>> dimensions. >>>>>>> ====================> >>> Mr Smarty !!! >>>>>> >>>>>> I WAS ASKING ABOUT EMPTY SPACE !! >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Yes. Empt6 space has properties, other than just dimensions. >>>> >>>> >>>> ==================================> > (:-) >>>> ok lets hear about the PHYSICAL properties of >>>> **EMPY!!!!! SPACE'!!!! >>>> OTHER THAN DIMENSIONS >>> >>> >>> Youre kidding, right? >>> >>> Permittivity, permeability, impedance, electric field strength, >> ===================================Hey odd >> LET US SEE WHO IS KIDDING >> before you detect electric field strength >> >> YOU HAVE TO DETECT THE ELECTRIC FOILD !!!!! >> DOES IT HAVE NO PHYSICAL DIMENTIOMS ???? > > Electric field does have dimensions. Note that they aren’t [L]^3, which are > the dimensions of empty space. > Nevertheless, an electric field is a property of empty space. > > Note that to detect it, we typically put something material in there. But > the electric field was there even before we put something in it. We didn’t > create the electric field by the thing we put in it. > >> ]] >> >> magnetic >>> field strength, electromagnetic energy density >> >> AS ABOVE !! >> no physics dimensions ? >> >> >> . And thats just for one >>> sector of physical properties. All associated with any region of EMPTY >> the magnitudes of properties >> hey odd >> the magnitude is not the the >> physical phenomenon >> is associated with the >> physics entity that is associated with the >> physical phenomenon ! > > I’m sorry but this isn’t true. When you design a detector to detect > something, you don’t want the detector to CREATE the thing you’re trying to > detect. In fact you want the detector to disturb what you’re measuring as > little as possible. So when you measure the permeability of empty space, > the idea is to use a detector that doesn’t significantly disturb that value > at all. You don’t want to measure permeability of the detector, you want to > measure the permeability of the space without any detector in it. > > It’s the whole point of measurement, to not affect the value by the method > of measurement. <crickets> > >> >> if you have a ****lot** of money >> that is as well a physics ***science** >> phenomenon ??!! >> >> >> =why not >> you cant call the say' ***great** curiosity' of the >> man how makes a physical experiment >> as a''' sci /physics phenomenon >> 2 >> while you say >> permeability'' >> it IS ALWAYS *ASCOCLATED WITH >> PERMEABILITY OF WAHT ???!! >> >> WAHT PHYSICAL ***ENTITY ?? >> AND INOUR NG WE RTY TO DEAL TALK ABOUT **PHYSICAL ENTITIES !! >> PHYSICS ENETITES >> AGAIN **ENTITIES !!!!! >> you don't ??? >> = >> >> so >> why not call the belly ake of a >> physics sci phenomenon >> >>> space. >>> >>> Havent even gotten into the catalog of other properties in other sectors. >>> >>> Physical properties >> =======not properties !!!! >> -- PHYSICS entities >> ENTITIES !!!!before properties >> or else you are ***floating*** in the air >> >> (next day you will talk to me >> about the price of one kilogram of iron... ) >> >> or the ** density**of the porridge you ate yesterday. >> ''that has no 'physics dimensions''''. >> ======= TIA >> Y.Porat >> ==================== >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | "Boner J. Skidmark" <ForgyMcForgeFace@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-10 07:11 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <paigmh$rau$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #680305 |
Learn how to type simple English words, you retarded lunatic.
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