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  DNA test results The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-26 20:58 -0700
    Re: DNA test results benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 01:44 -0400
      Re: DNA test results Frank <"frank "@frank.net> - 2018-10-27 09:26 -0400
        Re: DNA test results "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 09:03 -0700
      Re: DNA test results The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-27 09:24 -0700
      Re: DNA test results The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-27 09:34 -0700
      Re: DNA test results Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 17:37 +0000
        Re: DNA test results djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-10-27 18:21 +0000
          Re: DNA test results Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 19:00 +0000
            Re: DNA test results djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-10-27 20:57 +0000
              Re: DNA test results benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 17:28 -0400
                Re: DNA test results Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-28 09:29 +0100
                Re: DNA test results djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-10-28 14:45 +0000
                  Re: DNA test results Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-28 16:06 +0100
                    Re: DNA test results Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-10-28 22:45 +0000
              Re: DNA test results Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 22:35 +0000
                Re: DNA test results Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-10-27 16:00 -0700
                  Re: DNA test results Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-10-28 03:39 +0000
                    Re: DNA test results Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-10-27 22:40 -0700
                      Re: DNA test results J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-10-28 09:19 -0400
                      Re: DNA test results djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-10-28 14:48 +0000
                        Re: DNA test results Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-10-28 09:35 -0700
                          Re: DNA test results "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-28 11:01 -0700
                          Re: DNA test results J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-10-28 14:38 -0400
                            Re: DNA test results djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-10-28 20:29 +0000
                              Re: DNA test results The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-28 13:46 -0700
                                Re: DNA test results The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-28 13:53 -0700
                          Re: DNA test results djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-10-28 20:17 +0000
                            Re: DNA test results J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-10-28 16:39 -0400
                            Re: DNA test results "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-28 14:52 -0700
                              Re: DNA test results Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-10-28 15:30 -0700
                                Re: DNA test results "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-29 10:23 -0700
                            Re: DNA test results Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-10-28 19:37 -0700
                              Re: DNA test results djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-10-29 04:44 +0000
                      Re: DNA test results Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-10-28 22:30 +0000
                        Re: DNA test results Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-28 23:36 +0100
                        Re: DNA test results Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-28 23:46 +0100
                          Re: DNA test results Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-29 00:02 +0100
                            Re: DNA test results Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-10-29 05:16 +0000
                          Re: DNA test results Ninapenda Jibini <throbbingsausage@gmail.com> - 2018-10-29 05:15 +0000
                            Re: DNA test results Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-29 20:00 +0100
                              Re: DNA test results Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-10-29 12:52 -0700
                              Re: DNA test results The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-30 22:53 -0700
              Re: DNA test results J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 19:13 -0400
              Re: DNA test results The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-27 17:12 -0700
          Re: DNA test results benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 17:16 -0400
          Re: DNA test results The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-27 17:10 -0700
    Re: DNA test results The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-10-27 09:13 -0700
    Re: DNA test results "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-28 11:02 -0700

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#709837 — DNA test results

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2018-10-26 20:58 -0700
Subject	DNA test results
Message-ID	<5BD3E262.11E9@ix.netcom.com>

i can buy a DNA test at Walmart...

but, but...

but what would it find?


maybe i got some....cousins who are monkies?


maybe, maybe...


I got some Martian ancestors!

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#709845

From	benj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Date	2018-10-27 01:44 -0400
Message-ID	<pr0tvm$1gl9$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to	#709837

On 10/26/2018 11:58 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> i can buy a DNA test at Walmart...
> 
> but, but...
> 
> but what would it find?
> 
> 
> maybe i got some....cousins who are monkies?
> 
> 
> maybe, maybe...
> 
> 
> I got some Martian ancestors!
> 
Would find large amounts of Neanderthal DNA, Bozo.

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#709870

From	Frank <"frank "@frank.net>
Date	2018-10-27 09:26 -0400
Message-ID	<pr1p28$fa0$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#709845

On 10/27/2018 1:44 AM, benj wrote:
> On 10/26/2018 11:58 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> i can buy a DNA test at Walmart...
>>
>> but, but...
>>
>> but what would it find?
>>
>>
>> maybe i got some....cousins who are monkies?
>>
>>
>> maybe, maybe...
>>
>>
>> I got some Martian ancestors!
>>
> Would find large amounts of Neanderthal DNA, Bozo.

They are actually Chinese ancestors since he is related to Uncle Martian:

https://mashable.com/2016/04/29/uncle-martian-under-armour/#Ky0LoSYym8qa

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#709927

From	"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date	2018-10-27 09:03 -0700
Message-ID	<987a2a2b-e232-40e2-badd-4ab35c8b225f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#709870

On Saturday, October 27, 2018 at 6:26:35 AM UTC-7, Frank wrote:
> On 10/27/2018 1:44 AM, benj wrote:
> > On 10/26/2018 11:58 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> i can buy a DNA test at Walmart...
> >>
> >> but, but...
> >>
> >> but what would it find?
> >>
> >>
> >> maybe i got some....cousins who are monkies?
> >>
> >>
> >> maybe, maybe...
> >>
> >>
> >> I got some Martian ancestors!
> >>
> > Would find large amounts of Neanderthal DNA, Bozo.
> 
> They are actually Chinese ancestors since he is related to Uncle Martian:
> 
> https://mashable.com/2016/04/29/uncle-martian-under-armour/#Ky0LoSYym8qa

DNA of Humans are not to different than DNA of trees.All life billions of years ago was tiny microbes.Now a grown man has 6 trillion cells,and in each cell live 3 microbes.Without microbes living in our bodies we would be dead in 10 days.Earth is a microbe planet,and they keep it clean.Bert

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#709932

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2018-10-27 09:24 -0700
Message-ID	<5BD4912D.6325@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#709845

benj wrote:
> 
> On 10/26/2018 11:58 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > i can buy a DNA test at Walmart...
> >
> > but, but...
> >
> > but what would it find?
> >
> >
> > maybe i got some....cousins who are monkies?
> >
> >
> > maybe, maybe...
> >
> >
> > I got some Martian ancestors!
> >
> Would find large amounts of Neanderthal DNA, Bozo.


your sister wears a mustache, your brother wears a dress...

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#709934

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2018-10-27 09:34 -0700
Message-ID	<5BD4937F.66C1@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#709845

benj wrote:
> 
> On 10/26/2018 11:58 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > i can buy a DNA test at Walmart...
> >
> > but, but...
> >
> > but what would it find?
> >
> >
> > maybe i got some....cousins who are monkies?
> >
> >
> > maybe, maybe...
> >
> >
> > I got some Martian ancestors!
> >
> Would find large amounts of Neanderthal DNA, Bozo.

from Neanderthal DNA, to Bozo doesn't sound like evolution to me...


what would the Neanderthal DNA show?

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#709941

From	Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date	2018-10-27 17:37 +0000
Message-ID	<XnsA9886C14CEECCtaustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>
In reply to	#709845

benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote in news:pr0tvm$1gl9$3
@gioia.aioe.org:

> On 10/26/2018 11:58 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> i can buy a DNA test at Walmart...
>> 
>> but, but...
>> 
>> but what would it find?
>> 
>> 
>> maybe i got some....cousins who are monkies?
>> 
>> 
>> maybe, maybe...
>> 
>> 
>> I got some Martian ancestors!
>> 
> Would find large amounts of Neanderthal DNA, Bozo.
> 
You're an optomist, aren't you?

-- 
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#709951

From	djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
Date	2018-10-27 18:21 +0000
Message-ID	<pH9sBC.1sH1@kithrup.com>
In reply to	#709941

In article <XnsA9886C14CEECCtaustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>,
Ninapenda Jibini  <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote in news:pr0tvm$1gl9$3
>@gioia.aioe.org:
>
>> On 10/26/2018 11:58 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> i can buy a DNA test at Walmart...
>>> 
>>> but, but...
>>> 
>>> but what would it find?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> maybe i got some....cousins who are monkies?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> maybe, maybe...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I got some Martian ancestors!
>>> 
>> Would find large amounts of Neanderthal DNA, Bozo.
>> 
>You're an optomist, aren't you?

Many, if not most, people of European descent have a *little*
Neanderthal DNA.  I suspect I have some, but I'm not going to
spend money I haven't got, just to test it.  You've probably already
seen this reconstruction of a Neanderthal woman, based on
sequenced DNA:

://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1536&bih=726&ei=VqvUW7fcLMqb0wKxsLrQBw&q=reconstruction+Neanderthal+woman&oq=reconstruction+Neanderthal+woman&gs_l=img.3..0.1687.6921..7239...0.0..0.104.2148.31j1......2....1..gws-wiz-img.....0..0i30j0i8i30.PuQkUUqPFEM#imgdii=1KnyB2vgqznndM:&imgrc=rw8g9Ahq8PN2YM:&spf=1540664163376

Red hair, green/hazel eyes, freckles.  I had reddish hair and
freckles when I was young; so did my daughter; so does my
grandson.  My father had green eyes; my mother had hazel eyes; so
does my daughter.  So there's a little bit there.

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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#709959

From	Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date	2018-10-27 19:00 +0000
Message-ID	<XnsA9887A26A6491taustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>
In reply to	#709951

djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
news:pH9sBC.1sH1@kithrup.com: 

> In article <XnsA9886C14CEECCtaustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>,
> Ninapenda Jibini  <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote in news:pr0tvm$1gl9$3
>>@gioia.aioe.org:
>>
>>> On 10/26/2018 11:58 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> i can buy a DNA test at Walmart...
>>>> 
>>>> but, but...
>>>> 
>>>> but what would it find?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> maybe i got some....cousins who are monkies?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> maybe, maybe...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I got some Martian ancestors!
>>>> 
>>> Would find large amounts of Neanderthal DNA, Bozo.
>>> 
>>You're an optomist, aren't you?
> 
> Many, if not most, people of European descent have a *little*
> Neanderthal DNA.

That was not the insult I was aiming for. I have doubts that 
Starmaker's DNA is that close to vertebrate, much less mammal.

-- 
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#709965

From	djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
Date	2018-10-27 20:57 +0000
Message-ID	<pH9zK6.209p@kithrup.com>
In reply to	#709959

In article <XnsA9887A26A6491taustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>,
Ninapenda Jibini  <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
>news:pH9sBC.1sH1@kithrup.com: 
>
>> In article <XnsA9886C14CEECCtaustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>,
>> Ninapenda Jibini  <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote in news:pr0tvm$1gl9$3
>>>@gioia.aioe.org:
>>>
>>>> On 10/26/2018 11:58 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> i can buy a DNA test at Walmart...
>>>>> 
>>>>> but, but...
>>>>> 
>>>>> but what would it find?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> maybe i got some....cousins who are monkies?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> maybe, maybe...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I got some Martian ancestors!
>>>>> 
>>>> Would find large amounts of Neanderthal DNA, Bozo.
>>>> 
>>>You're an optomist, aren't you?
>> 
>> Many, if not most, people of European descent have a *little*
>> Neanderthal DNA.
>
>That was not the insult I was aiming for. I have doubts that 
>Starmaker's DNA is that close to vertebrate, much less mammal.

Well, s/he's got to have fingers, at least.  And probably, eyes.

So likeliest, s/he's either a vertebrate or a cephalopod.

Caution: thread drift ahead ...

There's an episode of _Doctor Who_ called "The Lazarus
Experiment."  The eponymous Professor Lazarus, at the age of 76,
invents a gizmo that reduces his age to thirty or so (I could
look up the actor's age at the time of filming, but I won't).
But the technique is unstable, and he keeps morphing into a
mixture of humanoid and scorpion.

And the Doctor says, "He's regressing back to an ancestral form."

But vertebrates are deuterostomes, and arthropods are protostomes
(look them up at your leisure), and to find a common ancestor you
would have to regress back to the Urbilaterian (look him up too),
which no one has found any traces of, though some of the
Edicarian fauna *might* serve, if we had more specimens.

So every time I watch it, and it's one of my favorite episodes, I
keep muttering, "It's not *science* fiction, it's Doctor Who."

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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#709969

From	benj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Date	2018-10-27 17:28 -0400
Message-ID	<pr2la1$bta$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to	#709965

On 10/27/2018 4:57 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <XnsA9887A26A6491taustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>,
> Ninapenda Jibini  <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>> djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
>> news:pH9sBC.1sH1@kithrup.com:
>>
>>> In article <XnsA9886C14CEECCtaustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>,
>>> Ninapenda Jibini  <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote in news:pr0tvm$1gl9$3
>>>> @gioia.aioe.org:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/26/2018 11:58 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> i can buy a DNA test at Walmart...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but, but...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but what would it find?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> maybe i got some....cousins who are monkies?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> maybe, maybe...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I got some Martian ancestors!
>>>>>>
>>>>> Would find large amounts of Neanderthal DNA, Bozo.
>>>>>
>>>> You're an optomist, aren't you?
>>>
>>> Many, if not most, people of European descent have a *little*
>>> Neanderthal DNA.
>>
>> That was not the insult I was aiming for. I have doubts that
>> Starmaker's DNA is that close to vertebrate, much less mammal.
> 
> Well, s/he's got to have fingers, at least.  And probably, eyes.
> 
> So likeliest, s/he's either a vertebrate or a cephalopod.
> 
> Caution: thread drift ahead ...
> 
> There's an episode of _Doctor Who_ called "The Lazarus
> Experiment."  The eponymous Professor Lazarus, at the age of 76,
> invents a gizmo that reduces his age to thirty or so (I could
> look up the actor's age at the time of filming, but I won't).
> But the technique is unstable, and he keeps morphing into a
> mixture of humanoid and scorpion.
> 
> And the Doctor says, "He's regressing back to an ancestral form."
> 
> But vertebrates are deuterostomes, and arthropods are protostomes
> (look them up at your leisure), and to find a common ancestor you
> would have to regress back to the Urbilaterian (look him up too),
> which no one has found any traces of, though some of the
> Edicarian fauna *might* serve, if we had more specimens.
> 
> So every time I watch it, and it's one of my favorite episodes, I
> keep muttering, "It's not *science* fiction, it's Doctor Who."

So with nothing better to do I take your advice and start to look up 
your jargon:

Wikipedia:

"Deuterostomia is a subtaxon of the Bilateria branch of the subkingdom 
Eumetazoa , within Animalia, and are distinguished from protostomes by 
their deuterostomic embryonic development ; in deuterostomes, the first 
opening (the blastopore ) becomes the anus , while in protostomes, it 
becomes the mouth ."

Well that's enlightening...not.
Say, wait! What is that last sentence? Yes, I am starting to get it. 
Gastric reversal is clearly a Starfaker trait...

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#710017

From	Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date	2018-10-28 09:29 +0100
Message-ID	<434127a3-51d2-bbbb-6d0b-077542f4f083@PointedEars.de>
In reply to	#709969

benj wrote:
> So with nothing better to do I take your advice and start to look up your
> jargon:
> 
> Wikipedia:
> 
> "Deuterostomia is a subtaxon of the Bilateria branch of the subkingdom 
> Eumetazoa , within Animalia, and are distinguished from protostomes by 
> their deuterostomic embryonic development ; in deuterostomes, the first 
> opening (the blastopore ) becomes the anus , while in protostomes, it 
> becomes the mouth ."

This is not the original text.  It is the original text distorted by your
inability of proper punctuation.

> Well that's enlightening...not.

<hint-hint-hint>

There are links in the text.

Also, notice common word roots:

*deuter*ostomia – *deuter*ostomes – *deuter*ium
*sub*taxon – *sub*atomic
sub*taxon* – *taxon*omy
*bi*lateria – *bi*metal
bi*later*ia – bi*later*al, equi*later*al (triangle), *lat*itude
eu*meta*zoa — *meta*physics, *meta*phor
eumeta*zoa* — proto*zoa*
*animal*ia – *animal*
*proto*stomes — *proto*n
blasto*pore* – *poro*us

So the meaning of «stomia» or (Anglicized) “stomes” is the only one that a
person educated in physics or chemistry really needs to look up.  One finds
that it means “mouth”.

</hint-hint-hint>

F’up2 rec.arts.sf.written

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#710042

From	djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
Date	2018-10-28 14:45 +0000
Message-ID	<pHBCz2.1trG@kithrup.com>
In reply to	#709969

In article <pr2la1$bta$1@gioia.aioe.org>, benj  <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 10/27/2018 4:57 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article <XnsA9887A26A6491taustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>,
>> Ninapenda Jibini  <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
>>> news:pH9sBC.1sH1@kithrup.com:
>>>
>>>> In article <XnsA9886C14CEECCtaustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>,
>>>> Ninapenda Jibini  <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote in news:pr0tvm$1gl9$3
>>>>> @gioia.aioe.org:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/26/2018 11:58 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> i can buy a DNA test at Walmart...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but, but...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but what would it find?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> maybe i got some....cousins who are monkies?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> maybe, maybe...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I got some Martian ancestors!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would find large amounts of Neanderthal DNA, Bozo.
>>>>>>
>>>>> You're an optomist, aren't you?
>>>>
>>>> Many, if not most, people of European descent have a *little*
>>>> Neanderthal DNA.
>>>
>>> That was not the insult I was aiming for. I have doubts that
>>> Starmaker's DNA is that close to vertebrate, much less mammal.
>> 
>> Well, s/he's got to have fingers, at least.  And probably, eyes.
>> 
>> So likeliest, s/he's either a vertebrate or a cephalopod.
>> 
>> Caution: thread drift ahead ...
>> 
>> There's an episode of _Doctor Who_ called "The Lazarus
>> Experiment."  The eponymous Professor Lazarus, at the age of 76,
>> invents a gizmo that reduces his age to thirty or so (I could
>> look up the actor's age at the time of filming, but I won't).
>> But the technique is unstable, and he keeps morphing into a
>> mixture of humanoid and scorpion.
>> 
>> And the Doctor says, "He's regressing back to an ancestral form."
>> 
>> But vertebrates are deuterostomes, and arthropods are protostomes
>> (look them up at your leisure), and to find a common ancestor you
>> would have to regress back to the Urbilaterian (look him up too),
>> which no one has found any traces of, though some of the
>> Edicarian fauna *might* serve, if we had more specimens.
>> 
>> So every time I watch it, and it's one of my favorite episodes, I
>> keep muttering, "It's not *science* fiction, it's Doctor Who."
>
>So with nothing better to do I take your advice and start to look up 
>your jargon:
>
>Wikipedia:
>
>"Deuterostomia is a subtaxon of the Bilateria branch of the subkingdom 
>Eumetazoa , within Animalia, and are distinguished from protostomes by 
>their deuterostomic embryonic development ; in deuterostomes, the first 
>opening (the blastopore ) becomes the anus , while in protostomes, it 
>becomes the mouth ."
>
>Well that's enlightening...not.
>Say, wait! What is that last sentence? Yes, I am starting to get it. 
>Gastric reversal is clearly a Starfaker trait...

No, it's a characteristic of ALL echinoderms and chordates.  You,
me, and the sea urchin.

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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#710052

From	Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date	2018-10-28 16:06 +0100
Message-ID	<ba1ef0f2-4d5b-07c3-01e1-f7c9fa4e77e9@PointedEars.de>
In reply to	#710042

Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <pr2la1$bta$1@gioia.aioe.org>, benj  <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Gastric reversal is clearly a Starfaker trait...
> 
> No, it's a characteristic of ALL echinoderms and chordates.  You,
> me, and the sea urchin.

If only you would trim your quotes and stop this amok-crossposting, your
postings might just be acceptable.

F’up2 poster

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#710155

From	Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date	2018-10-28 22:45 +0000
Message-ID	<XnsA989A03C4FC6Btaustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>
In reply to	#710052

> F’up2 poster
> 
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-- 
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#709974

From	Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date	2018-10-27 22:35 +0000
Message-ID	<XnsA9889EA58B289taustincagmailcom@69.16.179.42>
In reply to	#709965

djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in 
news:pH9zK6.209p@kithrup.com:

> In article <XnsA9887A26A6491taustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>,
> Ninapenda Jibini  <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
>>news:pH9sBC.1sH1@kithrup.com: 
>>
>>> In article <XnsA9886C14CEECCtaustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>,
>>> Ninapenda Jibini  <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote in news:pr0tvm$1gl9$3
>>>>@gioia.aioe.org:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/26/2018 11:58 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> i can buy a DNA test at Walmart...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> but, but...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> but what would it find?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> maybe i got some....cousins who are monkies?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> maybe, maybe...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I got some Martian ancestors!
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Would find large amounts of Neanderthal DNA, Bozo.
>>>>> 
>>>>You're an optomist, aren't you?
>>> 
>>> Many, if not most, people of European descent have a *little*
>>> Neanderthal DNA.
>>
>>That was not the insult I was aiming for. I have doubts that 
>>Starmaker's DNA is that close to vertebrate, much less mammal.
> 
> Well, s/he's got to have fingers, at least.  And probably, eyes.
> 
> So likeliest, s/he's either a vertebrate or a cephalopod.

Or a chatbot. A very broken chatbot written by a very stupid 
person.

-- 
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#709975

From	Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net>
Date	2018-10-27 16:00 -0700
Message-ID	<pr2qml$tdd$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#709974

On 10/27/2018 3:35 PM, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
> djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
> news:pH9zK6.209p@kithrup.com:
> 
>> In article <XnsA9887A26A6491taustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>,
>> Ninapenda Jibini  <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
>>> news:pH9sBC.1sH1@kithrup.com:
>>>
>>>> In article <XnsA9886C14CEECCtaustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>,
>>>> Ninapenda Jibini  <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote in news:pr0tvm$1gl9$3
>>>>> @gioia.aioe.org:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/26/2018 11:58 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> i can buy a DNA test at Walmart...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but, but...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but what would it find?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> maybe i got some....cousins who are monkies?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> maybe, maybe...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I got some Martian ancestors!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would find large amounts of Neanderthal DNA, Bozo.
>>>>>>
>>>>> You're an optomist, aren't you?
>>>>
>>>> Many, if not most, people of European descent have a *little*
>>>> Neanderthal DNA.
>>>
>>> That was not the insult I was aiming for. I have doubts that
>>> Starmaker's DNA is that close to vertebrate, much less mammal.
>>
>> Well, s/he's got to have fingers, at least.  And probably, eyes.
>>
>> So likeliest, s/he's either a vertebrate or a cephalopod.
> 
> Or a chatbot. A very broken chatbot written by a very stupid
> person.
> 
I think you just insulted broken stupid chatbots.

-- 
Inquiring minds want to know while minds with a self-preservation 
instinct are running screaming.

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#710009

From	Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date	2018-10-28 03:39 +0000
Message-ID	<XnsA988D22583D33taustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>
In reply to	#709975

Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote in
news:pr2qml$tdd$1@dont-email.me: 

> On 10/27/2018 3:35 PM, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
>> djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
>> news:pH9zK6.209p@kithrup.com:
>> 
>>> In article <XnsA9887A26A6491taustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>,
>>> Ninapenda Jibini  <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
>>>> news:pH9sBC.1sH1@kithrup.com:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <XnsA9886C14CEECCtaustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>,
>>>>> Ninapenda Jibini  <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote in news:pr0tvm$1gl9$3
>>>>>> @gioia.aioe.org:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/26/2018 11:58 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>> i can buy a DNA test at Walmart...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but, but...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but what would it find?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> maybe i got some....cousins who are monkies?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> maybe, maybe...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I got some Martian ancestors!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would find large amounts of Neanderthal DNA, Bozo.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're an optomist, aren't you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Many, if not most, people of European descent have a
>>>>> *little* Neanderthal DNA.
>>>>
>>>> That was not the insult I was aiming for. I have doubts that
>>>> Starmaker's DNA is that close to vertebrate, much less
>>>> mammal. 
>>>
>>> Well, s/he's got to have fingers, at least.  And probably,
>>> eyes. 
>>>
>>> So likeliest, s/he's either a vertebrate or a cephalopod.
>> 
>> Or a chatbot. A very broken chatbot written by a very stupid
>> person.
>> 
> I think you just insulted broken stupid chatbots.
> 
And the stupid people that write them.

But Dorothy insulted squids first.

-- 
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#710015

From	Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net>
Date	2018-10-27 22:40 -0700
Message-ID	<pr3i4m$obr$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#710009

On 10/27/2018 8:39 PM, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote in
> news:pr2qml$tdd$1@dont-email.me:
> 
>> On 10/27/2018 3:35 PM, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
>>> djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
>>> news:pH9zK6.209p@kithrup.com:
>>>
>>>> In article <XnsA9887A26A6491taustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>,
>>>> Ninapenda Jibini  <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
>>>>> news:pH9sBC.1sH1@kithrup.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <XnsA9886C14CEECCtaustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>,
>>>>>> Ninapenda Jibini  <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote in news:pr0tvm$1gl9$3
>>>>>>> @gioia.aioe.org:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/26/2018 11:58 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> i can buy a DNA test at Walmart...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> but, but...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> but what would it find?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> maybe i got some....cousins who are monkies?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> maybe, maybe...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I got some Martian ancestors!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would find large amounts of Neanderthal DNA, Bozo.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're an optomist, aren't you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many, if not most, people of European descent have a
>>>>>> *little* Neanderthal DNA.
>>>>>
>>>>> That was not the insult I was aiming for. I have doubts that
>>>>> Starmaker's DNA is that close to vertebrate, much less
>>>>> mammal.
>>>>
>>>> Well, s/he's got to have fingers, at least.  And probably,
>>>> eyes.
>>>>
>>>> So likeliest, s/he's either a vertebrate or a cephalopod.
>>>
>>> Or a chatbot. A very broken chatbot written by a very stupid
>>> person.
>>>
>> I think you just insulted broken stupid chatbots.
>>
> And the stupid people that write them.
> 
> But Dorothy insulted squids first.
> 
Octopi.  They are smarter than squids.  From some of the stories I've 
heard they're smarter than a fair number of humans.

-- 
Inquiring minds want to know while minds with a self-preservation 
instinct are running screaming.

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#710021

From	J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date	2018-10-28 09:19 -0400
Message-ID	<7pdbtdhvjapini4fdkac7fptk9kf1f8bju@4ax.com>
In reply to	#710015

On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 22:40:38 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

>On 10/27/2018 8:39 PM, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote in
>> news:pr2qml$tdd$1@dont-email.me:
>> 
>>> On 10/27/2018 3:35 PM, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
>>>> djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
>>>> news:pH9zK6.209p@kithrup.com:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <XnsA9887A26A6491taustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>,
>>>>> Ninapenda Jibini  <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
>>>>>> news:pH9sBC.1sH1@kithrup.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <XnsA9886C14CEECCtaustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43>,
>>>>>>> Ninapenda Jibini  <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote in news:pr0tvm$1gl9$3
>>>>>>>> @gioia.aioe.org:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/26/2018 11:58 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> i can buy a DNA test at Walmart...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> but, but...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> but what would it find?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> maybe i got some....cousins who are monkies?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> maybe, maybe...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I got some Martian ancestors!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Would find large amounts of Neanderthal DNA, Bozo.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're an optomist, aren't you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many, if not most, people of European descent have a
>>>>>>> *little* Neanderthal DNA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That was not the insult I was aiming for. I have doubts that
>>>>>> Starmaker's DNA is that close to vertebrate, much less
>>>>>> mammal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, s/he's got to have fingers, at least.  And probably,
>>>>> eyes.
>>>>>
>>>>> So likeliest, s/he's either a vertebrate or a cephalopod.
>>>>
>>>> Or a chatbot. A very broken chatbot written by a very stupid
>>>> person.
>>>>
>>> I think you just insulted broken stupid chatbots.
>>>
>> And the stupid people that write them.
>> 
>> But Dorothy insulted squids first.
>> 
>Octopi.  They are smarter than squids.  From some of the stories I've 
>heard they're smarter than a fair number of humans.

Given what has been going on in American politics for the last decade
or so that would seem to be a pretty low bar.

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