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Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology

Started byJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
First post2016-03-08 12:38 -0800
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  Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 12:38 -0800
    Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 12:54 -0800
      Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-09 05:59 +0100
        Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 21:33 -0800
          Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-09 19:37 +0100
        Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 00:47 -0800
          Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-13 06:14 +0100
    Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-09 07:30 +0100
      Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 22:51 -0800
        Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 01:55 -0800
        Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-09 19:58 +0100
          Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 11:56 -0800
            Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-10 04:54 +0100
              Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 20:52 -0800
                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-10 06:34 +0100
              Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 20:54 -0800
                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-10 06:16 +0100
                  Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 22:00 -0800
                    Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-10 00:05 -0600
              Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 20:55 -0800
                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-09 23:57 -0600
                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-10 07:04 +0100
                  Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 22:19 -0800
                    Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 08:01 +0100
                    Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-10 08:11 +0100
                      Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-10 16:29 +0800
                        Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-10 18:26 +0100
                          Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-11 01:54 +0800
                            Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-11 07:40 +0100
                              Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-11 21:44 +0800
                                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-11 15:02 +0000
                                  Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-11 23:08 +0800
                                    Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-11 15:20 +0000
                                    Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-11 10:03 -0800
                                  Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-11 10:03 -0800
                                    Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-11 18:05 +0000
                                      Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-11 10:14 -0800
                                        Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 11:29 -0700
                                    Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-12 02:13 +0800
                                      Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-11 18:52 +0000
                                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-13 06:29 +0100
                                  Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-13 16:27 +0800
                                    Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-14 05:54 +0100
                                      Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-14 16:00 +0800
                                        Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-14 17:16 +0100
                                      Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-15 19:18 +0000
                                        Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-16 03:30 +0800
                          Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 17:27 -0800
                            Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-10 20:35 -0600
                    Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 09:53 -0600
                      Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 08:47 -0800
              Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 20:57 -0800
                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-10 06:49 +0100
                  Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 22:11 -0800
                    Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-10 07:24 +0100
                      Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 23:10 -0800
                        Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-10 18:46 +0100
                          Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-11 02:16 +0800
                            Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-11 09:03 +0100
                              Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 00:52 -0800
                                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-13 05:48 +0100
                                  Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-13 01:49 -0700
                              Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 01:12 -0800
                                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-13 06:24 +0100
                                  Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 01:22 -0800
                                    Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-14 05:00 +0100
                                      Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 21:33 -0700
                                        Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-14 06:32 +0100
                                          Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 23:00 -0700
                                            Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-14 08:43 +0100
                                          there is no warmal globing per se noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 12:20 -0700
                              Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-11 21:29 +0800
                                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-13 05:54 +0100
                          Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 17:30 -0800
                            Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 17:39 -0800
                              Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 19:46 -0600
                              Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-10 20:40 -0600
                                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 18:46 -0800
                                  Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 20:56 -0600
                                    Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 19:01 -0800
                                      Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 08:41 -0600
                                        Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 06:49 -0800
                                          Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 08:38 -0800
                                            Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 08:58 -0800
                                      Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 08:49 -0600
                            Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-11 07:34 +0100
                              Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-03-11 01:45 -0500
                              Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 23:48 -0800
                                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-13 06:24 +0100
                                  Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-14 01:11 +0800
                                    Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-14 05:05 +0100
                                      Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-14 23:46 +0800
                                        Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-14 15:53 +0000
                                          Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-15 00:17 +0800
                                            Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-14 16:27 +0000
                                              Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-15 00:51 +0800
                                          Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-03-14 12:42 -0400
                                            Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-15 00:54 +0800
                                        Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-14 18:09 +0100
                                          Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-15 01:42 +0800
                                            Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-15 06:14 +0100
                                              Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-03-15 01:26 -0400
                                                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-15 18:39 +0100
                                                  Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-03-15 17:45 -0400
                                                    Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-16 05:27 +0100
                                                      Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-03-16 11:39 -0400
                                                        Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-16 18:16 +0100
                                                          Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-03-16 15:16 -0400
                                                            Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-17 05:50 +0100
                                          Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-03-15 05:18 -0400
                                            Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-15 17:29 +0100
                              Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-11 21:53 +0800
                                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-13 06:34 +0100
                                  Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-13 16:20 +0800
                                    Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-14 05:12 +0100
                    Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 08:11 +0100
                      Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 08:26 +0100
                    Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 09:54 -0600
          Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-10 05:19 +0100
            Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-03-10 00:03 -0500
      Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 08:12 +0100
        Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 08:25 +0100
        Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 23:30 -0800
          Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 03:31 -0800
      Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-08 23:31 -0800
        Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-09 19:43 +0100
          Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-09 11:33 -0800
            Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-10 05:04 +0100
    Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 08:45 -0600
      Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-09 08:22 -0800
    Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 18:22 -0700

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#561043

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-03-09 23:57 -0600
Message-ID<nbr2cl$18vb$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#561019
On 3/9/2016 10:55 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 8:04:40 PM UTC-8, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:
>> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
>>
>> James McGinn, in.
>> <news:a23fe731-7aea-42e4-b722-35de781b8f71@googlegroups.com> did
>> thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:
>>
>>> Do the math, dumbass.
>>
>> You're demonstrating that you can't do the math,
>
> It's pretty simple
>

you're simpler

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#561051

FromFriendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx>
Date2016-03-10 07:04 +0100
Message-ID<ed7c3c626b991f8634c578ec146804d5@dizum.com>
In reply to#561019
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

James McGinn, in
<news:df281cd1-872f-49d2-8aa3-eba5a5f3ddac@googlegroups.com> did
thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 8:04:40 PM UTC-8,
> Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:

>> James McGinn, in.
>> <news:a23fe731-7aea-42e4-b722-35de781b8f71@googlegroups.com> did
>> thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

>>> Do the math, dumbass.

>> You're demonstrating that you can't do the math, 

> It's pretty simple

Sure it is, Jim... yet you can't seem to grasp that simple reality.
Here it is again so you can demonstrate to a worldwide audience that
you're a reality-denying loon, Jim.

\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
The molar mass of water is 18.02 g/mol, as calculated from the sum of 
the atomic masses of its constituent atoms.

The average molar mass of air (approximately 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 
1% other gases) is 28.57 g/mol at STP.

Thus using Avogadro's Law and the Ideal Gas Law, water in its gaseous 
phase and air have a molar volume of 22.414 L/mol at STP. IOW, a molar 
mass of air and a molar mass of water in its gaseous phase occupy the 
same volume of 22.414 liters at STP.

The density of water in its gaseous phase at STP is 0.804 g/L, whereas 
the density of dry air is 1.27 g/L at STP.

Therefore that 22.414 liters molar volume would weigh:
18.02 grams for water in its gaseous phase
28.57 g for dry air

Therefore, water in its gaseous phase is lighter than air. Therefore 
air containing water in its gaseous phase is lighter than dry air.

Therefore, drier air *must* sink through air laden with water in its 
gaseous phase, because it is less buoyant.

Except that's not all, Jim. Because air becomes denser as the altitude 
decreases.

At any given altitude, air of the same temperature and gaseous water 
partial pressure will have the same density.

At any given altitude, air of lower temperature but similar gaseous 
water partial pressure will have higher density.

At any given altitude, air of the same temperature but greater gaseous 
water partial pressure will have lower density.

For air of the same temperature and gaseous water partial pressure, 
air at a higher altitude will have lower density.

(1) For instance, at sea level, 20 C temperature, and 0% relative 
humidity, the air density is 1.204 kg/m^3.

Keeping all other factors in (1) the same but increasing relative 
humidity to 100%, or elevation to 74 meters, or temperature to 22.4 C, 
the air density is 1.194 kg/m^3.

Thus in order for the air at sea level to rise 74 meters due to 
increased buoyancy, it must have 100% more relative humidity than the 
air 74 meters above (IOW, the air at sea level must be at 100% RH, the 
air 74 meters above must be at 0% RH), given the same temperature; or 
the temperature of that sea level air must be at least 2.4 C greater 
than the air at 74 meters, given the same relative humidity.

Given that temperature can change much more than 2.4 C, whereas 
relative humidity can only max out at 100%, one can see that 
temperature-induced convection is the predominant driver of weather 
systems, destroying yet another of your kooky contentions.

IOW, in order for air to rise, it must overcome gravity, which 
requires energy (said energy in the form of temperature of the air 
itself decreasing air density or the latent heat of vaporization of 
monomer water in its gaseous phase replacing a certain percentage of 
higher molar weight air molecules and thus decreasing air density).

It's not because of your blather that the air at a lower altitude is 
"heavier" due to "water droplets", Ko0okTard, it's because density of 
the air varies with altitude, as does temperature. Or are you going to 
deny the existence of gravity the same as you've denied the existence 
of evaporation and sublimation?

These factors cause air to flow from higher pressure regions to lower 
pressure regions. But once you get near the top of the troposphere, 
the temperature no longer goes down, it goes up, thus air finds it 
more difficult to continue rising (especially considering that as it 
rises and expands through the troposphere due to decreasing pressure 
at altitude, it gets cooler and thus more dense due to the Ideal Gas 
Law). This generally balances out at the tropopause. Above this, the 
jet stream winds decrease in speed.

This horizontally flowing air at the tropopause is affected by 
planetary rotation, causing the air to turn to the right (in the 
Northern Hemisphere) in a phenomenon known as the Coriolis Effect. 
This causes a spiraling around the cold and warm air masses which 
induced the jet stream to begin with, thus causing those cold and warm 
air masses to spiral. This wind shear between warm and cold air masses 
is how hurricanes form, Jim.

You'll note the jet stream runs at the top and slightly above the 
tropopause for the polar jets, thus they don't "deliver energy and 
activity to top of the thunderclouds", given that the tropopause 
ranges from an average of 5.6 miles at the poles to 11 miles at the 
equator, whereas the highest clouds are thin wispy cirrus, 
cirrostratus and cirrocumulus clouds, and they are the *only* types of 
clouds at the top of the troposphere, except for the occasional 
unusually strong weather system forming cumulus, cumulonimbus or 
nimbostratus clouds all the way up to the top of the tropopause.

Because remember, it's the updraft which forms the clouds in the first 
place, and the speed of the updraft which determines what type of 
cloud is formed. And that updraft is caused by a combination of warmer 
air and air with higher gaseous water content creating air with 
greater buoyancy, carrying that gaseous water content upward, where 
the temperature drops, causing that gaseous water to condense and / or 
nucleate into clouds and eventually fall as rain under the right 
conditions.

And that destroys yet another of your kooky contentions... because 
you're a low-information uneducated moron trying to argue a subject 
about which you know very little, while k'laming yourself to be a 
'physicist' because you once took a Basic Meteorology elective 
class... a rather pathetic appeal to authority fallacy whilst trying 
to establish yourself as that authority. You are not an authority, 
Jim, you're just a delusional kooktard spouting a kooky and 
discredited conspiracy theory.
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That's one means by which I utterly destroyed your kooky conspiracy 
theory, Jim.

I've destroyed the central tenets of your kooky conspiracy theory, 
James. You and your kooky theory no longer have a leg to stand on.

I've proven your kooky conspiracy theory is a physical impossibility. 
That's... what? The 5th avenue I've used to utterly destroy your kooky 
conspiracy theory?

Now let's explore another avenue of destruction of your kooky 
conspiracy theory, Jim. It proves that what you k'lame is happening is 
a physical impossibility. If high-energy ultraviolet just 3.32 nm 
wavelength away from the x-ray range were getting through the 
atmosphere to the troposphere, life on this planet would be nigh-well 
impossible. And that's the *minimum* photon energy required to even 
*begin* to create plasma from water... to plasmize all the water in 
the atmosphere would require a very high flux of very energetic 
photons reaching throughout the troposphere.

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Do you not understand what plasma is, you fecking nong? If plasma 
existed in the trophosphere, the electromagnetic interference from 
that electromagnetic plasma would make radio communication nigh well 
impossible. If plasma existed in the troposphere, we'd see lightning 
strikes right out of the blue... but you're the moron who never 
stopped to consider *why* lightning always comes from moving air near 
clouds or other sources of moisture... because you're the moron who 
knew nothing of the Triboelectric Effect until I schooled you. Nor, 
apparently, were you aware that water is a dielectric until I schooled 
you.

Plasma does not exist in our atmosphere except in the plasmasphere, 
just outside the upper ionosphere, just inside the magnetosphere. 
That's a minimum of 48 miles above the tropopause.

For clouds, there is no plasma involved in their apparent buoyancy. 
It's merely that the droplet size is sufficiently small (from a few 
microns to a few tens of microns) that the droplets have no 
appreciable fall velocity in light of random air movements and 
updraft. The fall speed is related to the droplet's mass and surface 
area. A roughly spherical droplet has a mass proportional to its 
radius cubed. The downward-facing surface area of such a droplet is 
proportional to the radius squared. Thus, as that tiny micron-sized 
water droplet grows, its mass becomes more important. At a droplet 
radius of 100 microns (an order of magnitude larger than the largest 
average droplet size), the fall velocity is only ~27 cm/s. Thus they 
stay suspended because clouds generally form in areas where air which 
is laden with gaseous water (and is thus less dense) rises, offsetting 
the fall velocity. As the altitude increases, the temperature falls, 
thus the water carrying capacity of that air drops, thus the gaseous 
phase water condenses into those tiny droplets, those tiny droplets 
grow, and eventually the ratio of droplet mass:downward-facing surface 
area is sufficient for that droplet to overcome the updraft and fall 
to the ground. Which is why different cloud types (caused by different 
updraft speeds) cause different types of rain.

Stratiform clouds (those producing steady rain) typically form in an 
environment with widespread but weak upward motion (say, a few cm/s); 
convective clouds (those causing showers and thunderstorms) are 
associated with updrafts that exceed a few meters per second.

For clear sky, the relative humidity proves that there is water in its 
fully gaseous phase in the air, given that water is miscible in air 
down to ~-60 C. Sublimation further proves this fact. The speed of 
sound being faster in the less-dense air laden with gaseous water as 
compared to dry air further proves this fact. The relative density of 
air laden with gaseous phase water being less than dry air further 
proves this fact.

Your contention that lightning is caused by your purported plasma is 
another easily disproved kook contention... the upward draft in areas 
where cloud formation is prevalent also contributes to creating 
lightning ... this can be proven by the fact that tribocharging (the 
Triboelectric Effect, a form of contact electrification) is caused by 
rubbing a dielectric such as a balloon or comb... water is a 
dielectric. So lightning is nothing more than an updraft-induced 
tribocharging. This is why NASA cancels launches if the space vehicle 
being launched has to fly through certain types of clouds, because the 
P-static (precipitation static) would interfere with communication and 
telemetry, and particularly the mission-critical flight termination 
signals should something go wrong. NASA calls this their 
Triboelectrification Rule. This is why convective clouds are typically 
the only type of clouds to exhibit lightning... the updraft is faster, 
thus the Triboelectric Effect is stronger.

So... given the above, I'm sure you can figure out for yourself which 
types of clouds would trigger NASA's Triboelectrification Rule, right?

As regards your kooky claim that water forms a plasma in the 
atmosphere (which means you must be talking about the troposphere, 
given that's where nearly all clouds form except for the high, thin, 
wispy nacreous and noctilucent clouds):

<http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2001-02/983243860.Ph.r.html>
=========================================================
It has been measured that to create any degree of ionization in a 
water vapor atmosphere you need to have electrons with energy of at 
least around 12 electron volts. (See Ref. below) That means that if 
you want to ionize the water (make a plasma) by thermal energy only 
you must impart enough thermal energy to get a lot of electrons of 
energy about 12 electron volts or higher. That means the water 
molecules will have to be heated up to an excitation level of about 
this magnitude. For a water molecule to be heated to this excitation 
energy we are talking about a temperature of about 12,000 degrees K. 
So if you could heat the water to this temperature you would begin to 
make such a plasma.
=========================================================

Do you know what 12 eV entails, Jim? That'd entail photons of 103.32 
nm, a frequency of 2.9016e15 Hz, extremely energetic ultraviolet 
light, nearly in the x-ray range.

And that's the *minimum* required to even create *any* degree of 
plasma from water... you're claiming *all* the water in the atmosphere 
is plasma.

Only 3% of the ultraviolet light from the sun makes its way through 
the atmosphere to the trophosphere, Jim, most of it far less 
energetic, ranging upwards of 400 nm.

In fact, because ultraviolet shorter than 121 nm ionizes air so 
strongly, it is absorbed far above the troposphere, hence, water 
plasma *cannot* exist in the troposphere, where the overwhelming 
majority of atmospheric water is (and hence where all clouds are 
except for those wispy nacreous and noctilucent clouds), Jim.

Do you not understand that therefore there is no plasma in the 
troposphere, and thus your kooky conspiracy theory is the mad ranting 
of an uneducated goof trying to pretend that he's a physicist because 
he took an elective Basic Meteorology class once, when really you're 
just a delusional kooktard?

Anyone with any interest can look up the data and corroborate it for 
themselves. I am certain, Jim, that you will not... you will instead 
run away from reality again. It is all you can do, given your 
delusional mental state. Your sanity hangs in the balance, thus you'll 
avoid any proof which upsets the delicate smoke-and-mirrors world 
you've constructed as means of propping up your failing sanity, Jim.

So yet again via yet another avenue, I utterly destroy your kooky 
conspiracy theory, Jim. That's reality. Deal with it.

<snicker>
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See how simple things are when one is sane, Jim? See how much sense 
that all makes? The world (indeed, the universe) doesn't work by kooky 
conspiracies and impossibilities as you claim, Jim, it works by a set 
of immutable rules. Learn those rules, Jim, and stop being such a 
fucking moron. Go back and finish high school, Jim. You'll be the 
better for it, and likely the saner, too.

<snicker>

-- 

Shiny Tinfoil Brain (aka Bite My Shiny Metal Ass) didn't know:
=====================================
The Euler equation is a subset of equations known as the Euler-Fourier
Formulas, thus that a sinewave is a transformation of a circle (which
should have been intuitive, given that generators *rotate* to create
*sinusoids*);

That cross correlation is used with Fourier transforms;

That superposition is the same as wave interference;

That wave interference works the same for standing or traveling waves;

That RMS and peak-to-peak voltage are two different things;

That RMS isn't a DC voltage;

That 170 volt peak, 120.208 volt RMS L-N 3-phase service gives 208.207
volts RMS L-L;

That 4444525800 != 4400000000 != 1;

The difference between frequency and period of a sinewave;

That there's no difference between 'i' and 'j' in electrical
engineering, physics and control systems engineering;

What a positive or negative vector is;

That the vector sum of 3-phase AC constitutes a closed loop per
Kirchhoff's Voltage Law, thus that the three phases sum to zero;

That "mnemonic" is not spelled "mneumonic";

That his claim: "Water is tetrahedral. It actually has 4 poles, 2
positive and 2 negative." is nonsense from a blathering moron.

That water does not have negative poles. The oxygen has an
electronegativity of 8+, the hydrogens 1+.

That the term "electronegativity" denotes a *positive* nucleal charge.

What the definition of the word "equivalent" is.

And the moron continues to demonstrate his inability to read a graph.
=====================================

SPNAK!

<snicker>

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#561052

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-09 22:19 -0800
Message-ID<48f28ab7-1cb3-4ca1-851a-4bba4a76b2f4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#561051
On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:14:38 PM UTC-8, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:
> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
> 
> James McGinn, in
> <news:df281cd1-872f-49d2-8aa3-eba5a5f3ddac@googlegroups.com> did
> thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:
> 
> > On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 8:04:40 PM UTC-8,
> > Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:
> 
> >> James McGinn, in.
> >> <news:a23fe731-7aea-42e4-b722-35de781b8f71@googlegroups.com> did
> >> thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:
> 
> >>> Do the math, dumbass.
> 
> >> You're demonstrating that you can't do the math, 
> 
> > It's pretty simple
> 
> Sure it is, Jim... 

What is the boiling temp of H2O?

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#561066

FromPoutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-10 08:01 +0100
Message-ID<nbr5vb$a0d$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#561052
Dne 10/03/2016 v 07:19 James McGinn napsal(a):
> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:14:38 PM UTC-8, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:
>> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
>>
>>
>>>>> Do the math, dumbass.
>>
>>>> You're demonstrating that you can't do the math, 
>>
>>> It's pretty simple
>>
>> Sure it is, Jim... 
> 
> What is the boiling temp of H2O?

At what pressure ?
As it is pressure dependent.

Water boils, when external pressure is equal to
or less than saturated vapour pressure at current temperature.

You can cause even a cold water to boil,
using a vacuum pump.

In upper stratosphere,
water boils until freezes,
and than sublimates until the ice crystals disappear.

100 deg C / 373.15 K
is just nominal boiling temp
for nominal pressure 101 325 Pa,
without special physical significance.




-- 
Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )

Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.

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#561074

FromFriendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx>
Date2016-03-10 08:11 +0100
Message-ID<931d4178a58446d02d03a4a5a1179679@dizum.com>
In reply to#561052
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

James McGinn, in
<news:48f28ab7-1cb3-4ca1-851a-4bba4a76b2f4@googlegroups.com> did
thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:14:38 PM UTC-8,
> Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:

>> James McGinn, in
>> <news:df281cd1-872f-49d2-8aa3-eba5a5f3ddac@googlegroups.com> did
>> thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

>>> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 8:04:40 PM UTC-8,
>>> Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:

>>>> James McGinn, in.
>>>> <news:a23fe731-7aea-42e4-b722-35de781b8f71@googlegroups.com> did
>>>> thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

>>>>> Do the math, dumbass.

>>>> You're demonstrating that you can't do the math, 

>>> It's pretty simple

>> Sure it is, Jim... 

> What is the boiling temp of H2O?

What is the plasma temperature of H2O, Jim? 12000 K.

Your kooky theory is even more wrong than you k'lame reality to be,
Jim. By more than an order of magnitude.

Here, Jim. Prove to the world that you're a loonytunes moron again:

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The molar mass of water is 18.02 g/mol, as calculated from the sum of 
the atomic masses of its constituent atoms.

The average molar mass of air (approximately 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 
1% other gases) is 28.57 g/mol at STP.

Thus using Avogadro's Law and the Ideal Gas Law, water in its gaseous 
phase and air have a molar volume of 22.414 L/mol at STP. IOW, a molar 
mass of air and a molar mass of water in its gaseous phase occupy the 
same volume of 22.414 liters at STP.

The density of water in its gaseous phase at STP is 0.804 g/L, whereas 
the density of dry air is 1.27 g/L at STP.

Therefore that 22.414 liters molar volume would weigh:
18.02 grams for water in its gaseous phase
28.57 g for dry air

Therefore, water in its gaseous phase is lighter than air. Therefore 
air containing water in its gaseous phase is lighter than dry air.

Therefore, drier air *must* sink through air laden with water in its 
gaseous phase, because it is less buoyant.

Except that's not all, Jim. Because air becomes denser as the altitude 
decreases.

At any given altitude, air of the same temperature and gaseous water 
partial pressure will have the same density.

At any given altitude, air of lower temperature but similar gaseous 
water partial pressure will have higher density.

At any given altitude, air of the same temperature but greater gaseous 
water partial pressure will have lower density.

For air of the same temperature and gaseous water partial pressure, 
air at a higher altitude will have lower density.

(1) For instance, at sea level, 20 C temperature, and 0% relative 
humidity, the air density is 1.204 kg/m^3.

Keeping all other factors in (1) the same but increasing relative 
humidity to 100%, or elevation to 74 meters, or temperature to 22.4 C, 
the air density is 1.194 kg/m^3.

Thus in order for the air at sea level to rise 74 meters due to 
increased buoyancy, it must have 100% more relative humidity than the 
air 74 meters above (IOW, the air at sea level must be at 100% RH, the 
air 74 meters above must be at 0% RH), given the same temperature; or 
the temperature of that sea level air must be at least 2.4 C greater 
than the air at 74 meters, given the same relative humidity.

Given that temperature can change much more than 2.4 C, whereas 
relative humidity can only max out at 100%, one can see that 
temperature-induced convection is the predominant driver of weather 
systems, destroying yet another of your kooky contentions.

IOW, in order for air to rise, it must overcome gravity, which 
requires energy (said energy in the form of temperature of the air 
itself decreasing air density or the latent heat of vaporization of 
monomer water in its gaseous phase replacing a certain percentage of 
higher molar weight air molecules and thus decreasing air density).

It's not because of your blather that the air at a lower altitude is 
"heavier" due to "water droplets", Ko0okTard, it's because density of 
the air varies with altitude, as does temperature. Or are you going to 
deny the existence of gravity the same as you've denied the existence 
of evaporation and sublimation?

These factors cause air to flow from higher pressure regions to lower 
pressure regions. But once you get near the top of the troposphere, 
the temperature no longer goes down, it goes up, thus air finds it 
more difficult to continue rising (especially considering that as it 
rises and expands through the troposphere due to decreasing pressure 
at altitude, it gets cooler and thus more dense due to the Ideal Gas 
Law). This generally balances out at the tropopause. Above this, the 
jet stream winds decrease in speed.

This horizontally flowing air at the tropopause is affected by 
planetary rotation, causing the air to turn to the right (in the 
Northern Hemisphere) in a phenomenon known as the Coriolis Effect. 
This causes a spiraling around the cold and warm air masses which 
induced the jet stream to begin with, thus causing those cold and warm 
air masses to spiral. This wind shear between warm and cold air masses 
is how hurricanes form, Jim.

You'll note the jet stream runs at the top and slightly above the 
tropopause for the polar jets, thus they don't "deliver energy and 
activity to top of the thunderclouds", given that the tropopause 
ranges from an average of 5.6 miles at the poles to 11 miles at the 
equator, whereas the highest clouds are thin wispy cirrus, 
cirrostratus and cirrocumulus clouds, and they are the *only* types of 
clouds at the top of the troposphere, except for the occasional 
unusually strong weather system forming cumulus, cumulonimbus or 
nimbostratus clouds all the way up to the top of the tropopause.

Because remember, it's the updraft which forms the clouds in the first 
place, and the speed of the updraft which determines what type of 
cloud is formed. And that updraft is caused by a combination of warmer 
air and air with higher gaseous water content creating air with 
greater buoyancy, carrying that gaseous water content upward, where 
the temperature drops, causing that gaseous water to condense and / or 
nucleate into clouds and eventually fall as rain under the right 
conditions.

And that destroys yet another of your kooky contentions... because 
you're a low-information uneducated moron trying to argue a subject 
about which you know very little, while k'laming yourself to be a 
'physicist' because you once took a Basic Meteorology elective 
class... a rather pathetic appeal to authority fallacy whilst trying 
to establish yourself as that authority. You are not an authority, 
Jim, you're just a delusional kooktard spouting a kooky and 
discredited conspiracy theory.
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That's one means by which I utterly destroyed your kooky conspiracy 
theory, Jim.

I've destroyed the central tenets of your kooky conspiracy theory, 
James. You and your kooky theory no longer have a leg to stand on.

I've proven your kooky conspiracy theory is a physical impossibility. 
That's... what? The 5th avenue I've used to utterly destroy your kooky 
conspiracy theory?

Now let's explore another avenue of destruction of your kooky 
conspiracy theory, Jim. It proves that what you k'lame is happening is 
a physical impossibility. If high-energy ultraviolet just 3.32 nm 
wavelength away from the x-ray range were getting through the 
atmosphere to the troposphere, life on this planet would be nigh-well 
impossible. And that's the *minimum* photon energy required to even 
*begin* to create plasma from water... to plasmize all the water in 
the atmosphere would require a very high flux of very energetic 
photons reaching throughout the troposphere.

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Do you not understand what plasma is, you fecking nong? If plasma 
existed in the trophosphere, the electromagnetic interference from 
that electromagnetic plasma would make radio communication nigh well 
impossible. If plasma existed in the troposphere, we'd see lightning 
strikes right out of the blue... but you're the moron who never 
stopped to consider *why* lightning always comes from moving air near 
clouds or other sources of moisture... because you're the moron who 
knew nothing of the Triboelectric Effect until I schooled you. Nor, 
apparently, were you aware that water is a dielectric until I schooled 
you.

Plasma does not exist in our atmosphere except in the plasmasphere, 
just outside the upper ionosphere, just inside the magnetosphere. 
That's a minimum of 48 miles above the tropopause.

For clouds, there is no plasma involved in their apparent buoyancy. 
It's merely that the droplet size is sufficiently small (from a few 
microns to a few tens of microns) that the droplets have no 
appreciable fall velocity in light of random air movements and 
updraft. The fall speed is related to the droplet's mass and surface 
area. A roughly spherical droplet has a mass proportional to its 
radius cubed. The downward-facing surface area of such a droplet is 
proportional to the radius squared. Thus, as that tiny micron-sized 
water droplet grows, its mass becomes more important. At a droplet 
radius of 100 microns (an order of magnitude larger than the largest 
average droplet size), the fall velocity is only ~27 cm/s. Thus they 
stay suspended because clouds generally form in areas where air which 
is laden with gaseous water (and is thus less dense) rises, offsetting 
the fall velocity. As the altitude increases, the temperature falls, 
thus the water carrying capacity of that air drops, thus the gaseous 
phase water condenses into those tiny droplets, those tiny droplets 
grow, and eventually the ratio of droplet mass:downward-facing surface 
area is sufficient for that droplet to overcome the updraft and fall 
to the ground. Which is why different cloud types (caused by different 
updraft speeds) cause different types of rain.

Stratiform clouds (those producing steady rain) typically form in an 
environment with widespread but weak upward motion (say, a few cm/s); 
convective clouds (those causing showers and thunderstorms) are 
associated with updrafts that exceed a few meters per second.

For clear sky, the relative humidity proves that there is water in its 
fully gaseous phase in the air, given that water is miscible in air 
down to ~-60 C. Sublimation further proves this fact. The speed of 
sound being faster in the less-dense air laden with gaseous water as 
compared to dry air further proves this fact. The relative density of 
air laden with gaseous phase water being less than dry air further 
proves this fact.

Your contention that lightning is caused by your purported plasma is 
another easily disproved kook contention... the upward draft in areas 
where cloud formation is prevalent also contributes to creating 
lightning ... this can be proven by the fact that tribocharging (the 
Triboelectric Effect, a form of contact electrification) is caused by 
rubbing a dielectric such as a balloon or comb... water is a 
dielectric. So lightning is nothing more than an updraft-induced 
tribocharging. This is why NASA cancels launches if the space vehicle 
being launched has to fly through certain types of clouds, because the 
P-static (precipitation static) would interfere with communication and 
telemetry, and particularly the mission-critical flight termination 
signals should something go wrong. NASA calls this their 
Triboelectrification Rule. This is why convective clouds are typically 
the only type of clouds to exhibit lightning... the updraft is faster, 
thus the Triboelectric Effect is stronger.

So... given the above, I'm sure you can figure out for yourself which 
types of clouds would trigger NASA's Triboelectrification Rule, right?

As regards your kooky claim that water forms a plasma in the 
atmosphere (which means you must be talking about the troposphere, 
given that's where nearly all clouds form except for the high, thin, 
wispy nacreous and noctilucent clouds):

<http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2001-02/983243860.Ph.r.html>
=========================================================
It has been measured that to create any degree of ionization in a 
water vapor atmosphere you need to have electrons with energy of at 
least around 12 electron volts. (See Ref. below) That means that if 
you want to ionize the water (make a plasma) by thermal energy only 
you must impart enough thermal energy to get a lot of electrons of 
energy about 12 electron volts or higher. That means the water 
molecules will have to be heated up to an excitation level of about 
this magnitude. For a water molecule to be heated to this excitation 
energy we are talking about a temperature of about 12,000 degrees K. 
So if you could heat the water to this temperature you would begin to 
make such a plasma.
=========================================================

Do you know what 12 eV entails, Jim? That'd entail photons of 103.32 
nm, a frequency of 2.9016e15 Hz, extremely energetic ultraviolet 
light, nearly in the x-ray range.

And that's the *minimum* required to even create *any* degree of 
plasma from water... you're claiming *all* the water in the atmosphere 
is plasma.

Only 3% of the ultraviolet light from the sun makes its way through 
the atmosphere to the trophosphere, Jim, most of it far less 
energetic, ranging upwards of 400 nm.

In fact, because ultraviolet shorter than 121 nm ionizes air so 
strongly, it is absorbed far above the troposphere, hence, water 
plasma *cannot* exist in the troposphere, where the overwhelming 
majority of atmospheric water is (and hence where all clouds are 
except for those wispy nacreous and noctilucent clouds), Jim.

Do you not understand that therefore there is no plasma in the 
troposphere, and thus your kooky conspiracy theory is the mad ranting 
of an uneducated goof trying to pretend that he's a physicist because 
he took an elective Basic Meteorology class once, when really you're 
just a delusional kooktard?

Anyone with any interest can look up the data and corroborate it for 
themselves. I am certain, Jim, that you will not... you will instead 
run away from reality again. It is all you can do, given your 
delusional mental state. Your sanity hangs in the balance, thus you'll 
avoid any proof which upsets the delicate smoke-and-mirrors world 
you've constructed as means of propping up your failing sanity, Jim.

So yet again via yet another avenue, I utterly destroy your kooky 
conspiracy theory, Jim. That's reality. Deal with it.

<snicker>
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See how simple things are when one is sane, Jim? See how much sense 
that all makes? The world (indeed, the universe) doesn't work by kooky 
conspiracies and impossibilities as you claim, Jim, it works by a set 
of immutable rules. Learn those rules, Jim, and stop being such a 
fucking moron. Go back and finish high school, Jim. You'll be the 
better for it, and likely the saner, too.

<snicker>

-- 

Shiny Tinfoil Brain (aka Bite My Shiny Metal Ass) didn't know:
=====================================
The Euler equation is a subset of equations known as the Euler-Fourier
Formulas, thus that a sinewave is a transformation of a circle (which
should have been intuitive, given that generators *rotate* to create
*sinusoids*);

That cross correlation is used with Fourier transforms;

That superposition is the same as wave interference;

That wave interference works the same for standing or traveling waves;

That RMS and peak-to-peak voltage are two different things;

That RMS isn't a DC voltage;

That 170 volt peak, 120.208 volt RMS L-N 3-phase service gives 208.207
volts RMS L-L;

That 4444525800 != 4400000000 != 1;

The difference between frequency and period of a sinewave;

That there's no difference between 'i' and 'j' in electrical
engineering, physics and control systems engineering;

What a positive or negative vector is;

That the vector sum of 3-phase AC constitutes a closed loop per
Kirchhoff's Voltage Law, thus that the three phases sum to zero;

That "mnemonic" is not spelled "mneumonic";

That his claim: "Water is tetrahedral. It actually has 4 poles, 2
positive and 2 negative." is nonsense from a blathering moron.

That water does not have negative poles. The oxygen has an
electronegativity of 8+, the hydrogens 1+.

That the term "electronegativity" denotes a *positive* nucleal charge.

What the definition of the word "equivalent" is.

And the moron continues to demonstrate his inability to read a graph.
=====================================

SPNAK!

<snicker>

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#561084

FromBite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future>
Date2016-03-10 16:29 +0800
Message-ID<aeb2eb1h3eho9h7scc6oupba48mjt3e2jr@4ax.com>
In reply to#561074
Fakey (aka "Nutcase dude") wrote:

> What is the plasma temperature of H2O, Jim? 12000 K.

ROFL!  There are no molecules in a plasma, faketard.
Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature.

Sheesh!

> Your kooky theory is even more wrong than you k'lame reality to be,
> Jim. By more than an order of magnitude.

What's the electronegativity of oxygen, Ersatzia?

https://www.google.com/search?q=electronegativity+of+oxygen

> Thus using Avogadro's Law and the Ideal Gas Law, water in its gaseous 
> phase and air have a molar volume

Water in its gaseous phase doesn't follow the Ideal Gas Law,
moron.  Do you know what steam tables are, and why sane
people use them?

Do you need someone to follow you around usenet and correct
all your fuckups?

I can see why you lost an argument with another raving loon.
You have more kooksine than he does!

Got that $100k yet?

-- 
"..the term 'electronegativity' denotes a *positive* nucleal
charge."  --Fakey the Chemist waxes stupid

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#561178

FromFriendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx>
Date2016-03-10 18:26 +0100
Message-ID<20417d8002d96598785ff36603e40560@dizum.com>
In reply to#561084
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain), in
<news:aeb2eb1h3eho9h7scc6oupba48mjt3e2jr@4ax.com> did thusly jump head
first into the wood chipper again:

> Fakey (aka "Nutcase dude") wrote:
> 
>> What is the plasma temperature of H2O, Jim? 12000 K.

> ROFL!  There are no molecules in a plasma, faketard.
> Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature.

You apparently *like* proving yourself to be a moron:

<https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/water-and-plasma.390771/>
"Any substance - regardless of what is its composition - becomes
plasma if heated high enough. However, once it is heated it doesn't
contain molecules, as all chemical bonds are broken."

<http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2001-02/983243860.Ph.r.html>
=========================================================
It has been measured that to create any degree of ionization in a 
water vapor atmosphere you need to have electrons with energy of at 
least around 12 electron volts. (See Ref. below) That means that if 
you want to ionize the water (make a plasma) by thermal energy only 
you must impart enough thermal energy to get a lot of electrons of 
energy about 12 electron volts or higher. That means the water 
molecules will have to be heated up to an excitation level of about 
this magnitude. For a water molecule to be heated to this excitation 
energy we are talking about a temperature of about 12,000 degrees K. 
So if you could heat the water to this temperature you would begin to 
make such a plasma.
=========================================================

> Sheesh!

SPNAK!

>> Your kooky theory is even more wrong than you k'lame reality to be,
>> Jim. By more than an order of magnitude.

> What's the electronegativity of oxygen, Ersatzia?

Still trying to conflate the electronegativity of elemental oxygen 
with that of the oxygen atom in a water molecule and prove that PhD 
professor of applied sciences wrong, eh, Moron? LOL

<http://www1.lsbu.ac.uk/water/water_molecule.html>
London South Bank University - Physics Department
Martin Chaplin BSc PhD CChem FRSC
Emeritus Professor of Applied Science
111 peer-reviewed studies published
3 books published
3 patents granted
==================================================
Due to the relatively large positive charge on the oxygen atom nucleus
(8+) and the closeness of its electrons, the oxygen atom attracts
electrons much more strongly (i.e. is much more electronegative) than
the hydrogen atoms (1+). This results in a charge transfer from the
hydrogen atoms towards the oxygen atom and, hence, the polarity of the
water molecule.

Early 5-point molecular models, with explicit negative charge where
the lone pairs are purported to be, fared poorly in describing
hydrogen bonding, but more recent models show some promise. Although
there is no apparent consensus of opinion [116], such descriptions of
substantial sp3-hybridized lone pairs in the isolated water molecule
should perhaps be avoided [117], as an sp2-hybridized structure (plus
a pz orbital) is indicated.

The molecule H2O has 10 electrons associated, 8 from the oxygen atom
and one each from the two hydrogen atoms.
==================================================

And all of the above backed up by 2517 peer-reviewed studies by people
far smarter and saner than you, Moron.

SPNAK!

I bet you wish you could be right just once, huh, Moron.

<snicker>

> https://www.google.com/search?q=electronegativity+of+oxygen

>> Thus using Avogadro's Law and the Ideal Gas Law, water in its gaseous 
>> phase and air have a molar volume

> Water in its gaseous phase doesn't follow the Ideal Gas Law,
> moron.  Do you know what steam tables are, and why sane
> people use them?

You just love proving yourself to be a moron, don't you?

<http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/17362/what-type-of-substances-allows-the-use-of-the-ideal-gas-law>
========================================
Pure water vapor at 1 atm and 373 K has Pr=1/217=0.0046, so the ideal
gas law applies to within 10% error.

The ideal gas law is derived from a model (the ideal gas), and like
every other model it applies where it's underling assumptions are good
approximations to reality.
========================================

The Ideal Gas Law is applied to the air *and* the gaseous phase water
vapor, because it comes within 10% error, one of the criteria for
using the Ideal Gas Law, you fecking nong. Moron.

SPNAK!

> Do you need someone to follow you around usenet and correct
> all your fuckups?

No, I have a moron following me around Usenet and making more fuckups.
Perhaps we can get someone to follow that moron around Usenet and
correct all his fuckups. Moron. LOL

> I can see why you lost an argument with another raving loon.
> You have more kooksine than he does!

You mean my having utterly destroyed James McGinn's kooky theory by
proving via several different avenues that it is a physical
impossibility, such as the fact that water plasma does not and cannot
exist in the troposphere?

You didn't understand any of that, which is why you're now agreeing
with that kooktard James McGinn. You're as delusional as he is.

SPNAK!

<snicker>

-- 

Shiny Tinfoil Brain (aka Bite My Shiny Metal Ass) didn't know:
=====================================
The Euler equation is a subset of equations known as the Euler-Fourier
Formulas, thus that a sinewave is a transformation of a circle (which
should have been intuitive, given that generators *rotate* to create
*sinusoids*);

That cross correlation is used with Fourier transforms;

That superposition is the same as wave interference;

That wave interference works the same for standing or traveling waves;

That RMS and peak-to-peak voltage are two different things;

That RMS isn't a DC voltage;

That 170 volt peak, 120.208 volt RMS L-N 3-phase service gives 208.207
volts RMS L-L;

That 4444525800 != 4400000000 != 1;

The difference between frequency and period of a sinewave;

That there's no difference between 'i' and 'j' in electrical
engineering, physics and control systems engineering;

What a positive or negative vector is;

That the vector sum of 3-phase AC constitutes a closed loop per
Kirchhoff's Voltage Law, thus that the three phases sum to zero;

That "mnemonic" is not spelled "mneumonic";

That his claim: "Water is tetrahedral. It actually has 4 poles, 2
positive and 2 negative." is nonsense from a blathering moron.

That water does not have negative poles. The oxygen has an
electronegativity of 8+, the hydrogens 1+.

That the term "electronegativity" denotes a *positive* nucleal charge.

What the definition of the word "equivalent" is.

That digital voltmeters do indeed take discrete instantaneous samples.

And the moron continues to demonstrate his inability to read a graph.
=====================================

SPNAK!

<snicker>

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#561189

FromBite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future>
Date2016-03-11 01:54 +0800
Message-ID<ejc3eblovovmfqe5btu8e3dnpoihc2rakh@4ax.com>
In reply to#561178
Fakey wrote:

> Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain), in
> <news:aeb2eb1h3eho9h7scc6oupba48mjt3e2jr@4ax.com> did thusly jump head
> first into the wood chipper again:
> 
> > Fakey (aka "Nutcase dude") wrote:
> > 
> >> What is the plasma temperature of H2O, Jim? 12000 K.
> 
> > ROFL!  There are no molecules in a plasma, faketard.
> > Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature.
> 
> You apparently *like* proving yourself to be a moron:
> 
> <https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/water-and-plasma.390771/>
> "Any substance - regardless of what is its composition - becomes
> plasma if heated high enough. However, once it is heated it doesn't
> contain molecules, as all chemical bonds are broken."

Uh, Fakey... you just posted a cite that says what i just
said.  It agrees with me, not you.  But you don't understand
it.

SPNAK!

> > Sheesh!

> >> Your kooky theory is even more wrong than you k'lame reality to be,
> >> Jim. By more than an order of magnitude.
> 
> > What's the electronegativity of oxygen, Ersatzia?
> 
> Still trying to conflate the electronegativity of elemental oxygen 

Still trying to deny the obvious?

> <http://www1.lsbu.ac.uk/water/water_molecule.html>

> ==================================================
> Due to the relatively large positive charge on the oxygen atom nucleus
> (8+) and the closeness of its electrons, the oxygen atom attracts
> electrons much more strongly (i.e. is much more electronegative) than
> the hydrogen atoms (1+). This results in a charge transfer from the
> hydrogen atoms towards the oxygen atom and, hence, the polarity of the
> water molecule.

Uh, Fakey... It doesn't say what you think it says.

What's the electronegativity of oxygen?

<snip attempted dodge>

> And all of the above backed up by 2517 peer-reviewed studies by people
> far smarter and saner than you, Moron.

Isn't it funny that they really agree with me, not you, but
you can't understand it.

> > https://www.google.com/search?q=electronegativity+of+oxygen

> >> Thus using Avogadro's Law and the Ideal Gas Law, water in its gaseous 
> >> phase and air have a molar volume
> 
> > Water in its gaseous phase doesn't follow the Ideal Gas Law,
> > moron.  Do you know what steam tables are, and why sane
> > people use them?
> 
> You just love proving yourself to be a moron, don't you?
> 
> <http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/17362/what-type-of-substances-allows-the-use-of-the-ideal-gas-law>
> ========================================
> Pure water vapor at 1 atm and 373 K has Pr=1/217=0.0046, so the ideal
> gas law applies to within 10% error.

If that's true, it isn't a very close fit, is it?

Water doesn't follow the Ideal Gas Law.  I'm right.

> The Ideal Gas Law is applied to the air *and* the gaseous phase water
> vapor, because it comes within 10% error, one of the criteria for
> using the Ideal Gas Law, you fecking nong. Moron.

LOL!  So you have to mix a little water vapor with a lot of
air, to get a 10% fit.

Water doesn't follow the Ideal Gas Law.  I'm right.  Be
humble and move on, spankee.

> > I can see why you lost an argument with another raving loon.
> > You have more kooksine than he does!
> 
> You mean my having utterly destroyed James McGinn's kooky theory by
> proving via several different avenues that it is a physical
> impossibility, such as the fact that water plasma does not and cannot
> exist in the troposphere?

You are losing an argument with a wacked out kook.
Your father must finally be proud of you!

-- 
"Water has *no* 'negative poles' "
  --His Nibs reveals the shocking discovery that the water
    molecule is an electrical monopole.

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#561430

FromFriendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx>
Date2016-03-11 07:40 +0100
Message-ID<075580023123448a67f4484d97ebef26@dizum.com>
In reply to#561189
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain, in
<news:ejc3eblovovmfqe5btu8e3dnpoihc2rakh@4ax.com> did thusly jump head
first into the wood chipper again:

> FNVWe stomped a retard's brain flat. Again:

>> Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain), in
>> <news:aeb2eb1h3eho9h7scc6oupba48mjt3e2jr@4ax.com> did thusly jump head
>> first into the wood chipper again:

>>> FNVWe stomped a retard's brain flat. Again:

>>>> What is the plasma temperature of H2O, Jim? 12000 K.

>>> ROFL!  There are no molecules in a plasma, faketard.
>>> Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature.

>> You apparently *like* proving yourself to be a moron:
>> 
>> <https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/water-and-plasma.390771/>
>> "Any substance - regardless of what is its composition - becomes
>> plasma if heated high enough. However, once it is heated it doesn't
>> contain molecules, as all chemical bonds are broken."
>> 
>> <http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2001-02/983243860.Ph.r.html>
>> =========================================================
>> It has been measured that to create any degree of ionization in a 
>> water vapor atmosphere you need to have electrons with energy of at 
>> least around 12 electron volts. (See Ref. below) That means that if 
>> you want to ionize the water (make a plasma) by thermal energy only 
>> you must impart enough thermal energy to get a lot of electrons of 
>> energy about 12 electron volts or higher. That means the water 
>> molecules will have to be heated up to an excitation level of about 
>> this magnitude. For a water molecule to be heated to this excitation 
>> energy we are talking about a temperature of about 12,000 degrees K. 
>> So if you could heat the water to this temperature you would begin to 
>> make such a plasma.
>> =========================================================

> Uh, Fakey... you just posted a cite that says what i just
> said.

You lying kook, you k'lamed that water could not become plasmized:
"Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature."

SPNAK!

> It agrees with me, not you.  But you don't understand it.

Moron. You k'lamed that water could not be a plasma. Now you're
backpedaling and lying because you can't stand the level of stupidity
you've proved you exude.

> SP<SMACAKOOK!>

SPNAK!

>>> Sheesh!

>>>> Your kooky theory is even more wrong than you k'lame reality to be,
>>>> Jim. By more than an order of magnitude.

>>> What's the electronegativity of oxygen, Ersatzia?

>> Still trying to conflate the electronegativity of elemental oxygen 

> Still trying to deny the obvious?

Still demonstrating that you're a moron? LOL

>> <http://www1.lsbu.ac.uk/water/water_molecule.html>
>> ==================================================
>> Due to the relatively large positive charge on the oxygen atom nucleus
>> (8+) and the closeness of its electrons, the oxygen atom attracts
>> electrons much more strongly (i.e. is much more electronegative) than
>> the hydrogen atoms (1+). This results in a charge transfer from the
>> hydrogen atoms towards the oxygen atom and, hence, the polarity of the
>> water molecule.

> Uh, Fakey... It doesn't say what you think it says.
> 
> What's the electronegativity of oxygen?

<http://users.rcn.com/jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/E/Electronegativity.html>
"The electronegativity of an atom is a measure of its affinity for
electrons."

<http://www1.lsbu.ac.uk/water/water_molecule.html>
==================================================
Due to the relatively large positive charge on the oxygen atom nucleus
(8+) and the closeness of its electrons, the oxygen atom attracts
electrons much more strongly (i.e. is much more electronegative) than
the hydrogen atoms (1+). This results in a charge transfer from the
hydrogen atoms towards the oxygen atom and, hence, the polarity of the
water molecule.

The molecule H2O has 10 electrons associated, 8 from the oxygen atom
and one each from the two hydrogen atoms.
==================================================

So now you're denying that covalent bonds exist within water
molecules... but you're far too stupid to know why you've just made
that k'lame.

Aren't you the *moron* who k'lamed the water molecule had 2 positive
poles and 2 negative poles? Yeah... yeah, you are.

SPNAK!

> <snip attempted dodge>

Says the lying dodging moron. LOL

>> And all of the above backed up by 2517 peer-reviewed studies by people
>> far smarter and saner than you, Moron.

> Isn't it funny that they really agree with me, not you, but
> you can't understand it.

Isn't it funny that you're too much of a moron to even understand
those 2517 peer-reviewed studies, yet you k'lame to know that they
agree with you, when you're the moron who k'lamed that water is
molecularly tetrahedral, has 4 poles (2 negative and two positive) and
cannot be plasmized?

SPNAK!

>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=electronegativity+of+oxygen

>>>> Thus using Avogadro's Law and the Ideal Gas Law, water in its gaseous 
>>>> phase and air have a molar volume

>>> Water in its gaseous phase doesn't follow the Ideal Gas Law,
>>> moron.  Do you know what steam tables are, and why sane
>>> people use them?

>> You just love proving yourself to be a moron, don't you?
>> 
>> <http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/17362/what-type-of-substances-allows-the-use-of-the-ideal-gas-law>
>> ========================================
>> Pure water vapor at 1 atm and 373 K has Pr=1/217=0.0046, so the ideal
>> gas law applies to within 10% error.
>> 
>> The ideal gas law is derived from a model (the ideal gas), and like
>> every other model it applies where it's underling assumptions are good
>> approximations to reality.
>> ========================================
>> 
>> The Ideal Gas Law is applied to the air *and* the gaseous phase water
>> vapor, because it comes within 10% error, one of the criteria for
>> using the Ideal Gas Law, you fecking nong. Moron.
>> 
>> SPNAK!

> If that's true, it isn't a very close fit, is it?

It doesn't have to be a perfect fit. The criteria for using the Ideal
Gas Law is if it is within 10% error. Both water in its gaseous phase
in air, and air itself, are within that margin of error.

But your backpedaling "it isn't a very close fit" blather is noted as
your tacit admission that you were *wrong*. Again.

SPNAK!

> Water doesn't follow the Ideal Gas Law.  I'm right.

No, you're wrong. I've proven you're wrong. Now you're backpedaling
and lying. That doesn't make you right, that makes you a backpedaling
lying moron who is wrong.

SPNAK!

>> The Ideal Gas Law is applied to the air *and* the gaseous phase water
>> vapor, because it comes within 10% error, one of the criteria for
>> using the Ideal Gas Law, you fecking nong. Moron.

> LOL!  So you have to mix a little water vapor with a lot of
> air, to get a 10% fit.

Blither-blather from a blither-blathering moron. Are you now k'laming
the percentage water in the atmosphere is more than a maximum of ~4%,
you fecking *moron*?

SPNAK!

> Water doesn't follow the Ideal Gas Law.  I'm right.  Be
> humble and move on, spankee.

I've proven you're wrong. The Ideal Gas Law is used for water in its
gaseous phase in the atmosphere, just as I did in proving James McGinn
and his kooky conspiracy theory wrong. You're just a
blither-blathering backpedaling lying moron.

SPNAK!

>>> I can see why you lost an argument with another raving loon.
>>> You have more kooksine than he does!

>> You mean my having utterly destroyed James McGinn's kooky theory by
>> proving via several different avenues that it is a physical
>> impossibility, such as the fact that water plasma does not and cannot
>> exist in the troposphere?

> You are losing an argument with a wacked out kook.
> Your father must finally be proud of you!

Is that why he's snipping out my posts wholesale and finds himself
utterly unable to refute the scientific truth I promulgate? Or is the
more likely explanation that he's lost and you're just a delusional
spankard? Yeah, yeah that's it.

SPNAK!

Moron. LOL

-- 

Shiny Tinfoil Brain (aka Bite My Shiny Metal Ass) didn't know:
=====================================
The Euler equation is a subset of equations known as the Euler-Fourier
Formulas, thus that a sinewave is a transformation of a circle (which
should have been intuitive, given that generators *rotate* to create
*sinusoids*);

That cross correlation is used with Fourier transforms;

That superposition is the same as wave interference;

That wave interference works the same for standing or traveling waves;

That RMS and peak-to-peak voltage are two different things;

That RMS isn't a DC voltage;

That 170 volt peak, 120.208 volt RMS L-N 3-phase service gives 208.207
volts RMS L-L;

That 4444525800 != 4400000000 != 1;

The difference between frequency and period of a sinewave;

That there's no difference between 'i' and 'j' in electrical
engineering, physics and control systems engineering;

What a positive or negative vector is;

That the vector sum of 3-phase AC constitutes a closed loop per
Kirchhoff's Voltage Law, thus that the three phases sum to zero;

That "mnemonic" is not spelled "mneumonic";

That his claim: "Water is tetrahedral. It actually has 4 poles, 2
positive and 2 negative." is nonsense from a blathering moron.

That water does not have negative poles. The oxygen has an
electronegativity of 8+, the hydrogens 1+.

That the term "electronegativity" denotes a *positive* nucleal charge.

What the definition of the word "equivalent" is.

That digital voltmeters do indeed take discrete instantaneous samples.

And the moron continues to demonstrate his inability to read a graph.
=====================================

SPNAK!

<snicker>

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#561497

FromBite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future>
Date2016-03-11 21:44 +0800
Message-ID<l7i5ebteuqfi3pr89li8k6j9e9vgpddga3@4ax.com>
In reply to#561430
Fakey wrote:

> Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain, in
> 
> > Fakey wrote:
> 
> >> Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain), in
> 
> >>> Fakey wrote:
> 
> >>>> What is the plasma temperature of H2O, Jim? 12000 K.
> 
> >>> ROFL!  There are no molecules in a plasma, faketard.
> >>> Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature.
> 
> >> You apparently *like* proving yourself to be a moron:
> >> 
> >> <https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/water-and-plasma.390771/>
> >> "Any substance - regardless of what is its composition - becomes
> >> plasma if heated high enough. However, once it is heated it doesn't
> >> contain molecules, as all chemical bonds are broken."
> 
> > Uh, Fakey... you just posted a cite that says what i just
> > said.
> 
> You lying kook, you k'lamed that water could not become plasmized:
> "Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature."

I was right.  You don't understand this sentence, which YOU
quoted:

"However, once it is heated it doesn't contain molecules, as
all chemical bonds are broken."

That means, fakey, that once it's heated to the plasma
phase, there are no longer any water molecules.  You just
have a soup of H nuclei, O nuclei, and swarming electrons.
No more water.  Just like i already told you.

That's what "plasma" means, tardlet.

Please bleat & bray: ____________________________________


> >>> What's the electronegativity of oxygen, Ersatzia?
> 
> >> Still trying to conflate the electronegativity of elemental oxygen 
> 
> > Still trying to deny the obvious?
> 
> Still demonstrating that you're a moron? LOL

<snip obfuscating blither-blather>

C'mon, fakey.  Why can't you answer the question?
It's a very simple question.
Everyone knows that you know the answer.

The electronegativity of oxygen is _.__.

Are you scared, fakey?

Did you print out the cool periodic table yet, fakey?

-- 
"..the term 'electronegativity' denotes a *positive* nucleal
charge."  --Fakey the Chemist waxes stupid

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#561527

Fromsnipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe)
Date2016-03-11 15:02 +0000
Message-ID<1mjycfl.12kzhb91i2ro17N%snipeco.2@gmail.com>
In reply to#561497
Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> wrote:

> Fakey wrote:
> 
> > Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain, in
> > 
> > > Fakey wrote:
> > 
> > >> Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain), in
> > 
> > >>> Fakey wrote:
> > 
> > >>>> What is the plasma temperature of H2O, Jim? 12000 K.
> > 
> > >>> ROFL!  There are no molecules in a plasma, faketard.
> > >>> Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature.
> > 
> > >> You apparently *like* proving yourself to be a moron:
> > >> 
> > >> <https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/water-and-plasma.390771/>
> > >> "Any substance - regardless of what is its composition - becomes
> > >> plasma if heated high enough. However, once it is heated it doesn't
> > >> contain molecules, as all chemical bonds are broken."
> > 
> > > Uh, Fakey... you just posted a cite that says what i just
> > > said.
> > 
> > You lying kook, you k'lamed that water could not become plasmized:
> > "Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature."
> 
> I was right.  You don't understand this sentence, which YOU
> quoted:
> 
> "However, once it is heated it doesn't contain molecules, as
> all chemical bonds are broken."
> 
> That means, fakey, that once it's heated to the plasma
> phase, there are no longer any water molecules.  You just
> have a soup of H nuclei, O nuclei, and swarming electrons.
> No more water.  Just like i already told you.
> 
> That's what "plasma" means, tardlet.
> 
> Please bleat & bray: ____________________________________
> 
> 
> > >>> What's the electronegativity of oxygen, Ersatzia?
> > 
> > >> Still trying to conflate the electronegativity of elemental oxygen
> > 
> > > Still trying to deny the obvious?
> > 
> > Still demonstrating that you're a moron? LOL
> 
> <snip obfuscating blither-blather>
> 
> C'mon, fakey.  Why can't you answer the question?
> It's a very simple question.
> Everyone knows that you know the answer.
> 
> The electronegativity of oxygen is _.__.
> 
> Are you scared, fakey?
> 
> Did you print out the cool periodic table yet, fakey?
>

He'll run away again, I bet you a pound to a penny.

-- 
^Ï^.       Sn!pe       <snipeco.1@gmail.com>

My mind is made up, don't confuse me with facts.
My pet rock Gordon wants out.

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#561530

FromBite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future>
Date2016-03-11 23:08 +0800
Message-ID<hnn5eb1hd58o4gm438s8dlf87q05rc6qr7@4ax.com>
In reply to#561527
snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

> Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> wrote:
> 
> > Fakey wrote:
> > 
> > > Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain, in
> > > 
> > > > Fakey wrote:
> > > 
> > > >> Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain), in
> > > 
> > > >>> Fakey wrote:
> > > 
> > > >>>> What is the plasma temperature of H2O, Jim? 12000 K.
> > > 
> > > >>> ROFL!  There are no molecules in a plasma, faketard.
> > > >>> Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature.
> > > 
> > > >> You apparently *like* proving yourself to be a moron:
> > > >> 
> > > >> <https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/water-and-plasma.390771/>
> > > >> "Any substance - regardless of what is its composition - becomes
> > > >> plasma if heated high enough. However, once it is heated it doesn't
> > > >> contain molecules, as all chemical bonds are broken."
> > > 
> > > > Uh, Fakey... you just posted a cite that says what i just
> > > > said.
> > > 
> > > You lying kook, you k'lamed that water could not become plasmized:
> > > "Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature."
> > 
> > I was right.  You don't understand this sentence, which YOU
> > quoted:
> > 
> > "However, once it is heated it doesn't contain molecules, as
> > all chemical bonds are broken."
> > 
> > That means, fakey, that once it's heated to the plasma
> > phase, there are no longer any water molecules.  You just
> > have a soup of H nuclei, O nuclei, and swarming electrons.
> > No more water.  Just like i already told you.
> > 
> > That's what "plasma" means, tardlet.
> > 
> > Please bleat & bray: ____________________________________
> > 
> > 
> > > >>> What's the electronegativity of oxygen, Ersatzia?
> > > 
> > > >> Still trying to conflate the electronegativity of elemental oxygen
> > > 
> > > > Still trying to deny the obvious?
> > > 
> > > Still demonstrating that you're a moron? LOL
> > 
> > <snip obfuscating blither-blather>
> > 
> > C'mon, fakey.  Why can't you answer the question?
> > It's a very simple question.
> > Everyone knows that you know the answer.
> > 
> > The electronegativity of oxygen is _.__.
> > 
> > Are you scared, fakey?
> > 
> > Did you print out the cool periodic table yet, fakey?
> >
> 
> He'll run away again, I bet you a pound to a penny.

I'm expecting the broadside of froth.  Maybe even a faglame!
But will he answer?  Never.

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#561535

Fromsnipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe)
Date2016-03-11 15:20 +0000
Message-ID<1mjycuo.c1gq52zwpbgzN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>
In reply to#561530
Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> wrote:

[...]

> > > C'mon, fakey.  Why can't you answer the question?
> > > It's a very simple question.
> > > Everyone knows that you know the answer.
> > > 
> > > The electronegativity of oxygen is _.__.
> > > 
> > > Are you scared, fakey?
> > > 
> > > Did you print out the cool periodic table yet, fakey?
> > >
> > 
> > He'll run away again, I bet you a pound to a penny.
> >
>
> I'm expecting the broadside of froth.  Maybe even a faglame!
> But will he answer?  Never.
>

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thxAqdxGSPU>

He's fruity and he's frothy, man.

-- 
^Ï^.       Sn!pe       <snipeco.1@gmail.com>

My mind is made up, don't confuse me with facts.
My pet rock Gordon wants out.

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#561602

FromMustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge>
Date2016-03-11 10:03 -0800
Message-ID<MPG.314ca868e224637898cafd@news.altopia.com>
In reply to#561530
In article <hnn5eb1hd58o4gm438s8dlf87q05rc6qr7@4ax.com>, 
bender@the.future says...


> 
> snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
> 
> > Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> wrote:
> > 
> > > Fakey wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain, in
> > > > 
> > > > > Fakey wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >> Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain), in
> > > > 
> > > > >>> Fakey wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> What is the plasma temperature of H2O, Jim? 12000 K.
> > > > 
> > > > >>> ROFL!  There are no molecules in a plasma, faketard.
> > > > >>> Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature.
> > > > 
> > > > >> You apparently *like* proving yourself to be a moron:
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> <https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/water-and-plasma.390771/>
> > > > >> "Any substance - regardless of what is its composition - becomes
> > > > >> plasma if heated high enough. However, once it is heated it doesn't
> > > > >> contain molecules, as all chemical bonds are broken."
> > > > 
> > > > > Uh, Fakey... you just posted a cite that says what i just
> > > > > said.
> > > > 
> > > > You lying kook, you k'lamed that water could not become plasmized:
> > > > "Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature."
> > > 
> > > I was right.  You don't understand this sentence, which YOU
> > > quoted:
> > > 
> > > "However, once it is heated it doesn't contain molecules, as
> > > all chemical bonds are broken."
> > > 
> > > That means, fakey, that once it's heated to the plasma
> > > phase, there are no longer any water molecules.  You just
> > > have a soup of H nuclei, O nuclei, and swarming electrons.
> > > No more water.  Just like i already told you.
> > > 
> > > That's what "plasma" means, tardlet.
> > > 
> > > Please bleat & bray: ____________________________________
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > >>> What's the electronegativity of oxygen, Ersatzia?
> > > > 
> > > > >> Still trying to conflate the electronegativity of elemental oxygen
> > > > 
> > > > > Still trying to deny the obvious?
> > > > 
> > > > Still demonstrating that you're a moron? LOL
> > > 
> > > <snip obfuscating blither-blather>
> > > 
> > > C'mon, fakey.  Why can't you answer the question?
> > > It's a very simple question.
> > > Everyone knows that you know the answer.
> > > 
> > > The electronegativity of oxygen is _.__.
> > > 
> > > Are you scared, fakey?
> > > 
> > > Did you print out the cool periodic table yet, fakey?
> > >
> > 
> > He'll run away again, I bet you a pound to a penny.
> 
> I'm expecting the broadside of froth.  Maybe even a faglame!
> But will he answer?  Never.

Extra points for faglames.  "LOL"

-- 
Mustaffa Sheboygan

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#561601

FromMustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge>
Date2016-03-11 10:03 -0800
Message-ID<MPG.314ca8392186658698cafc@news.altopia.com>
In reply to#561527
In article <1mjycfl.12kzhb91i2ro17N%snipeco.2@gmail.com>, snipeco.2
@gmail.com says...


> 
> Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> wrote:
> 
> > Fakey wrote:
> > 
> > > Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain, in
> > > 
> > > > Fakey wrote:
> > > 
> > > >> Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain), in
> > > 
> > > >>> Fakey wrote:
> > > 
> > > >>>> What is the plasma temperature of H2O, Jim? 12000 K.
> > > 
> > > >>> ROFL!  There are no molecules in a plasma, faketard.
> > > >>> Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature.
> > > 
> > > >> You apparently *like* proving yourself to be a moron:
> > > >> 
> > > >> <https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/water-and-plasma.390771/>
> > > >> "Any substance - regardless of what is its composition - becomes
> > > >> plasma if heated high enough. However, once it is heated it doesn't
> > > >> contain molecules, as all chemical bonds are broken."
> > > 
> > > > Uh, Fakey... you just posted a cite that says what i just
> > > > said.
> > > 
> > > You lying kook, you k'lamed that water could not become plasmized:
> > > "Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature."
> > 
> > I was right.  You don't understand this sentence, which YOU
> > quoted:
> > 
> > "However, once it is heated it doesn't contain molecules, as
> > all chemical bonds are broken."
> > 
> > That means, fakey, that once it's heated to the plasma
> > phase, there are no longer any water molecules.  You just
> > have a soup of H nuclei, O nuclei, and swarming electrons.
> > No more water.  Just like i already told you.
> > 
> > That's what "plasma" means, tardlet.
> > 
> > Please bleat & bray: ____________________________________
> > 
> > 
> > > >>> What's the electronegativity of oxygen, Ersatzia?
> > > 
> > > >> Still trying to conflate the electronegativity of elemental oxygen
> > > 
> > > > Still trying to deny the obvious?
> > > 
> > > Still demonstrating that you're a moron? LOL
> > 
> > <snip obfuscating blither-blather>
> > 
> > C'mon, fakey.  Why can't you answer the question?
> > It's a very simple question.
> > Everyone knows that you know the answer.
> > 
> > The electronegativity of oxygen is _.__.
> > 
> > Are you scared, fakey?
> > 
> > Did you print out the cool periodic table yet, fakey?
> >
> 
> He'll run away again, I bet you a pound to a penny.

I'll chip in a quid... whatever THAT is!

-- 
Mustaffa Sheboygan

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#561603

Fromsnipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe)
Date2016-03-11 18:05 +0000
Message-ID<1mjykwk.17jwwbkxcociaN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>
In reply to#561601
Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> wrote:

> In article <1mjycfl.12kzhb91i2ro17N%snipeco.2@gmail.com>, snipeco.2
> @gmail.com says...
> 
> 
> > 
> > Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> wrote:
> > 
> > > Fakey wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain, in
> > > > 
> > > > > Fakey wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >> Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain), in
> > > > 
> > > > >>> Fakey wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> What is the plasma temperature of H2O, Jim? 12000 K.
> > > > 
> > > > >>> ROFL!  There are no molecules in a plasma, faketard.
> > > > >>> Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature.
> > > > 
> > > > >> You apparently *like* proving yourself to be a moron:
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> <https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/water-and-plasma.390771/>
> > > > >> "Any substance - regardless of what is its composition - becomes
> > > > >> plasma if heated high enough. However, once it is heated it doesn't
> > > > >> contain molecules, as all chemical bonds are broken."
> > > > 
> > > > > Uh, Fakey... you just posted a cite that says what i just
> > > > > said.
> > > > 
> > > > You lying kook, you k'lamed that water could not become plasmized:
> > > > "Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature."
> > > 
> > > I was right.  You don't understand this sentence, which YOU
> > > quoted:
> > > 
> > > "However, once it is heated it doesn't contain molecules, as
> > > all chemical bonds are broken."
> > > 
> > > That means, fakey, that once it's heated to the plasma
> > > phase, there are no longer any water molecules.  You just
> > > have a soup of H nuclei, O nuclei, and swarming electrons.
> > > No more water.  Just like i already told you.
> > > 
> > > That's what "plasma" means, tardlet.
> > > 
> > > Please bleat & bray: ____________________________________
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > >>> What's the electronegativity of oxygen, Ersatzia?
> > > > 
> > > > >> Still trying to conflate the electronegativity of elemental oxygen
> > > > 
> > > > > Still trying to deny the obvious?
> > > > 
> > > > Still demonstrating that you're a moron? LOL
> > > 
> > > <snip obfuscating blither-blather>
> > > 
> > > C'mon, fakey.  Why can't you answer the question?
> > > It's a very simple question.
> > > Everyone knows that you know the answer.
> > > 
> > > The electronegativity of oxygen is _.__.
> > > 
> > > Are you scared, fakey?
> > > 
> > > Did you print out the cool periodic table yet, fakey?
> > >
> > 
> > He'll run away again, I bet you a pound to a penny.
> 
> I'll chip in a quid... whatever THAT is!

It's like a buck but worth more.

-- 
^Ï^.       Sn!pe       <snipeco.1@gmail.com>

My mind is made up, don't confuse me with facts.
My pet rock Gordon wants out.

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#561610

FromMustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge>
Date2016-03-11 10:14 -0800
Message-ID<MPG.314caafc51b1918498caff@news.altopia.com>
In reply to#561603
In article <1mjykwk.17jwwbkxcociaN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>, snipeco.2
@gmail.com says...


> 
> Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> wrote:
> 
> > In article <1mjycfl.12kzhb91i2ro17N%snipeco.2@gmail.com>, snipeco.2
> > @gmail.com says...
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Fakey wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain, in
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Fakey wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > >> Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain), in
> > > > > 
> > > > > >>> Fakey wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > >>>> What is the plasma temperature of H2O, Jim? 12000 K.
> > > > > 
> > > > > >>> ROFL!  There are no molecules in a plasma, faketard.
> > > > > >>> Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature.
> > > > > 
> > > > > >> You apparently *like* proving yourself to be a moron:
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> <https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/water-and-plasma.390771/>
> > > > > >> "Any substance - regardless of what is its composition - becomes
> > > > > >> plasma if heated high enough. However, once it is heated it doesn't
> > > > > >> contain molecules, as all chemical bonds are broken."
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Uh, Fakey... you just posted a cite that says what i just
> > > > > > said.
> > > > > 
> > > > > You lying kook, you k'lamed that water could not become plasmized:
> > > > > "Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature."
> > > > 
> > > > I was right.  You don't understand this sentence, which YOU
> > > > quoted:
> > > > 
> > > > "However, once it is heated it doesn't contain molecules, as
> > > > all chemical bonds are broken."
> > > > 
> > > > That means, fakey, that once it's heated to the plasma
> > > > phase, there are no longer any water molecules.  You just
> > > > have a soup of H nuclei, O nuclei, and swarming electrons.
> > > > No more water.  Just like i already told you.
> > > > 
> > > > That's what "plasma" means, tardlet.
> > > > 
> > > > Please bleat & bray: ____________________________________
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > >>> What's the electronegativity of oxygen, Ersatzia?
> > > > > 
> > > > > >> Still trying to conflate the electronegativity of elemental oxygen
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Still trying to deny the obvious?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Still demonstrating that you're a moron? LOL
> > > > 
> > > > <snip obfuscating blither-blather>
> > > > 
> > > > C'mon, fakey.  Why can't you answer the question?
> > > > It's a very simple question.
> > > > Everyone knows that you know the answer.
> > > > 
> > > > The electronegativity of oxygen is _.__.
> > > > 
> > > > Are you scared, fakey?
> > > > 
> > > > Did you print out the cool periodic table yet, fakey?
> > > >
> > > 
> > > He'll run away again, I bet you a pound to a penny.
> > 
> > I'll chip in a quid... whatever THAT is!
> 
> It's like a buck but worth more.

It's worth more that The Almighty Dollar?  Bloody HELL!  I simply must 
have some!

-- 
Mustaffa Sheboygan

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#561621

From"%" <persent@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-11 11:29 -0700
Message-ID<97ro8n.58q.19.1@news.alt.net>
In reply to#561610
Mustaffa Sheboygan wrote:
> In article <1mjykwk.17jwwbkxcociaN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>, snipeco.2
> @gmail.com says...
> 
> 
>> 
>> Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> wrote:
>> 
>>> In article <1mjycfl.12kzhb91i2ro17N%snipeco.2@gmail.com>, snipeco.2
>>> @gmail.com says...
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Fakey wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain, in
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Fakey wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain), in
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Fakey wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> What is the plasma temperature of H2O, Jim? 12000 K.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ROFL!  There are no molecules in a plasma, faketard.
>>>>>>>>> Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You apparently *like* proving yourself to be a moron:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> <https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/water-and-plasma.390771/>
>>>>>>>> "Any substance - regardless of what is its composition -
>>>>>>>> becomes plasma if heated high enough. However, once it is
>>>>>>>> heated it doesn't contain molecules, as all chemical bonds are
>>>>>>>> broken." 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Uh, Fakey... you just posted a cite that says what i just
>>>>>>> said.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You lying kook, you k'lamed that water could not become
>>>>>> plasmized: "Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma
>>>>>> temperature." 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I was right.  You don't understand this sentence, which YOU
>>>>> quoted:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "However, once it is heated it doesn't contain molecules, as
>>>>> all chemical bonds are broken."
>>>>> 
>>>>> That means, fakey, that once it's heated to the plasma
>>>>> phase, there are no longer any water molecules.  You just
>>>>> have a soup of H nuclei, O nuclei, and swarming electrons.
>>>>> No more water.  Just like i already told you.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's what "plasma" means, tardlet.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please bleat & bray: ____________________________________
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> What's the electronegativity of oxygen, Ersatzia?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Still trying to conflate the electronegativity of elemental
>>>>>>>> oxygen 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Still trying to deny the obvious?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Still demonstrating that you're a moron? LOL
>>>>> 
>>>>> <snip obfuscating blither-blather>
>>>>> 
>>>>> C'mon, fakey.  Why can't you answer the question?
>>>>> It's a very simple question.
>>>>> Everyone knows that you know the answer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The electronegativity of oxygen is _.__.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are you scared, fakey?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Did you print out the cool periodic table yet, fakey?
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> He'll run away again, I bet you a pound to a penny.
>>> 
>>> I'll chip in a quid... whatever THAT is!
>> 
>> It's like a buck but worth more.
> 
> It's worth more that The Almighty Dollar?  Bloody HELL!  I simply must
> have some!

$1.44 US

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#561608

FromBite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future>
Date2016-03-12 02:13 +0800
Message-ID<6k26ebd6ki010e6gdt6gqi6hakeacrormf@4ax.com>
In reply to#561601
Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> wrote:

> In article <1mjycfl.12kzhb91i2ro17N%snipeco.2@gmail.com>, snipeco.2
> @gmail.com says...
> 
> 
> > 
> > Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> wrote:
> > 
> > > Fakey wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain, in
> > > > 
> > > > > Fakey wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >> Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain), in
> > > > 
> > > > >>> Fakey wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> What is the plasma temperature of H2O, Jim? 12000 K.
> > > > 
> > > > >>> ROFL!  There are no molecules in a plasma, faketard.
> > > > >>> Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature.
> > > > 
> > > > >> You apparently *like* proving yourself to be a moron:
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> <https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/water-and-plasma.390771/>
> > > > >> "Any substance - regardless of what is its composition - becomes
> > > > >> plasma if heated high enough. However, once it is heated it doesn't
> > > > >> contain molecules, as all chemical bonds are broken."
> > > > 
> > > > > Uh, Fakey... you just posted a cite that says what i just
> > > > > said.
> > > > 
> > > > You lying kook, you k'lamed that water could not become plasmized:
> > > > "Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature."
> > > 
> > > I was right.  You don't understand this sentence, which YOU
> > > quoted:
> > > 
> > > "However, once it is heated it doesn't contain molecules, as
> > > all chemical bonds are broken."
> > > 
> > > That means, fakey, that once it's heated to the plasma
> > > phase, there are no longer any water molecules.  You just
> > > have a soup of H nuclei, O nuclei, and swarming electrons.
> > > No more water.  Just like i already told you.
> > > 
> > > That's what "plasma" means, tardlet.
> > > 
> > > Please bleat & bray: ____________________________________
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > >>> What's the electronegativity of oxygen, Ersatzia?
> > > > 
> > > > >> Still trying to conflate the electronegativity of elemental oxygen
> > > > 
> > > > > Still trying to deny the obvious?
> > > > 
> > > > Still demonstrating that you're a moron? LOL
> > > 
> > > <snip obfuscating blither-blather>
> > > 
> > > C'mon, fakey.  Why can't you answer the question?
> > > It's a very simple question.
> > > Everyone knows that you know the answer.
> > > 
> > > The electronegativity of oxygen is _.__.
> > > 
> > > Are you scared, fakey?
> > > 
> > > Did you print out the cool periodic table yet, fakey?
> > >
> > 
> > He'll run away again, I bet you a pound to a penny.
> 
> I'll chip in a quid... whatever THAT is!

I'll raise you a shilling.

Snipey, what IS a shilling?

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#561635

Fromsnipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe)
Date2016-03-11 18:52 +0000
Message-ID<1mjymnp.lvxg8eewshqqN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>
In reply to#561608
Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> wrote:

> Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> wrote:
> 
> > In article <1mjycfl.12kzhb91i2ro17N%snipeco.2@gmail.com>, snipeco.2
> > @gmail.com says...
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Fakey wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain, in
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Fakey wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > >> Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain), in
> > > > > 
> > > > > >>> Fakey wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > >>>> What is the plasma temperature of H2O, Jim? 12000 K.
> > > > > 
> > > > > >>> ROFL!  There are no molecules in a plasma, faketard.
> > > > > >>> Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature.
> > > > > 
> > > > > >> You apparently *like* proving yourself to be a moron:
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> <https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/water-and-plasma.390771/>
> > > > > >> "Any substance - regardless of what is its composition - becomes
> > > > > >> plasma if heated high enough. However, once it is heated it doesn't
> > > > > >> contain molecules, as all chemical bonds are broken."
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Uh, Fakey... you just posted a cite that says what i just
> > > > > > said.
> > > > > 
> > > > > You lying kook, you k'lamed that water could not become plasmized:
> > > > > "Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature."
> > > > 
> > > > I was right.  You don't understand this sentence, which YOU
> > > > quoted:
> > > > 
> > > > "However, once it is heated it doesn't contain molecules, as
> > > > all chemical bonds are broken."
> > > > 
> > > > That means, fakey, that once it's heated to the plasma
> > > > phase, there are no longer any water molecules.  You just
> > > > have a soup of H nuclei, O nuclei, and swarming electrons.
> > > > No more water.  Just like i already told you.
> > > > 
> > > > That's what "plasma" means, tardlet.
> > > > 
> > > > Please bleat & bray: ____________________________________
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > >>> What's the electronegativity of oxygen, Ersatzia?
> > > > > 
> > > > > >> Still trying to conflate the electronegativity of elemental oxygen
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Still trying to deny the obvious?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Still demonstrating that you're a moron? LOL
> > > > 
> > > > <snip obfuscating blither-blather>
> > > > 
> > > > C'mon, fakey.  Why can't you answer the question?
> > > > It's a very simple question.
> > > > Everyone knows that you know the answer.
> > > > 
> > > > The electronegativity of oxygen is _.__.
> > > > 
> > > > Are you scared, fakey?
> > > > 
> > > > Did you print out the cool periodic table yet, fakey?
> > > >
> > > 
> > > He'll run away again, I bet you a pound to a penny.
> > 
> > I'll chip in a quid... whatever THAT is!
> 
> I'll raise you a shilling.
> 
> Snipey, what IS a shilling?

A shilling was one twentieth of a pound sterling in old money, back in
the days when there were 12 pennies to the shilling and 240 of them 
to the pound. In those far of pre-decimalisation times money was
expressed in Pounds (£) Shillings and Pence, abbreviated to LSD. 

In modern decimalised money an old shilling is equivalent to five pence.
There you go, more information than you will ever need to remember. ;)

-- 
^Ï^.       Sn!pe       <snipeco.1@gmail.com>

My mind is made up, don't confuse me with facts.
My pet rock Gordon wants out.

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