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| Started by | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2017-08-08 14:18 -0700 |
| Last post | 2017-08-14 19:23 -0700 |
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I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 14:18 -0700
I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 14:23 -0700
Re: I figured out charge zubeneschgenubi@gmail.com - 2017-08-08 14:44 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 15:58 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 16:03 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 16:34 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-08 23:34 +0000
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 09:54 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 08:05 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-08 23:28 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 16:44 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 16:47 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 17:05 -0700
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Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-10 03:53 +0000
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-09 02:33 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 06:02 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-10 03:47 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 20:51 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-10 18:42 +0000
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 09:47 -0500
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Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 15:23 -0700
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Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 13:53 -0700
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 16:58 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 15:06 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 17:11 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 15:40 -0700
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Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-10 20:28 -0400
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Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-11 12:59 +0000
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 18:36 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 19:36 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 08:06 -0500
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 08:40 -0500
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Re: I figured out charge Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 07:21 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 08:21 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 17:54 +0000
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 14:44 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 05:41 -0700
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 10:43 -0500
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 20:59 +0000
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Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-14 02:21 +0000
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 03:05 +0000
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-14 03:15 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 04:49 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-14 14:05 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 07:20 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-14 16:35 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 09:47 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-14 19:55 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 16:40 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 18:24 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-15 13:21 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 06:34 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:00 +0000
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-15 17:39 +0000
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-15 18:12 -0400
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:02 +0000
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:07 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 19:45 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 22:18 -0700
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Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 05:49 -0700
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 09:51 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 16:13 -0500
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-16 16:09 +0000
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 13:38 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 12:51 -0500
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-16 18:26 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 18:24 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 01:46 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 19:08 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 02:28 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 19:39 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 03:22 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 04:51 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:39 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 06:00 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 13:22 +0000
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 09:06 -0500
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Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 15:28 +0000
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 17:39 -0400
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 07:51 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:02 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 09:32 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:57 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:02 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:05 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:10 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:30 -0700
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 17:30 -0400
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 15:18 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 08:32 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:03 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 09:34 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:58 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-17 16:00 -0500
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 17:27 -0400
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 09:13 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 09:36 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:01 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:05 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:17 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:21 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:32 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 20:27 +0000
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 18:18 -0400
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 17:14 -0500
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 19:21 -0400
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 05:54 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 07:59 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 06:25 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 08:33 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 08:49 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 07:25 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 08:15 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 13:56 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 13:55 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 12:54 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 13:37 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 21:09 +0000
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 21:10 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 07:19 -0700
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 17:50 -0400
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:13 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:20 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:26 -0500
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 20:10 +0000
At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:13 -0700
Re: At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:23 -0500
Better Servers. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-08-17 10:34 -0700
Better Servers. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:05 -0700
Re: Better Servers. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 17:11 -0500
Re: At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 19:54 +0000
Re: At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 19:58 +0000
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 15:56 +0000
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 15:41 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 08:57 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:16 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 09:45 -0500
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-16 16:05 +0000
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Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-15 04:27 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 05:20 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-15 13:34 +0000
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Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-15 17:48 +0000
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Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-16 15:23 +0000
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-13 01:06 +0000
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Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-13 02:27 +0000
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Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-13 01:11 +0000
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 10:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <005545ac-7914-4e0d-b0c7-29c39338ea3e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #646318 |
ed " > What great comedy! Tell us more magical math There is a lot of magic related to math. But it would just bore you " BHs ARE entertaining- but terminally stupid. And definitely just math with some factors missing. Gravity approaches a LIMIT, just like anything. Pyramid schemes DONT WORK, because the base is not infinite.
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| Date | 2017-08-17 12:26 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <on4jk2$fsq$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #646320 |
On 8/17/17 12:20 PM, john wrote: > ed > " > >> What great comedy! Tell us more magical math > > There is a lot of magic related to math. But it would just bore you " > > BHs ARE entertaining- but terminally stupid. And definitely just math with some factors missing. > Gravity approaches a LIMIT, just like anything. > Pyramid schemes DONT WORK, because the base is not infinite. > John, you asked about whether gravity crushes matter. Let's talk about this for a second. What, in your mind, accounts for the solidity of steel? Why does it resist when you pound on it? Why doesn't it just splash like water? What makes it solid? (There's a real physics answer here. It's called degeneracy pressure and quantum mechanics explained it. But I await your thoughts on it.) -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 20:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <on4t7e$vfb$2@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #646320 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Gravity approaches a LIMIT, just like anything. So what's the limit of 1/r^2 as r approaches 0?
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 10:13 -0700 |
| Subject | At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger. |
| Message-ID | <f29ded5d-e8f6-4d69-86d7-f24721732fde@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #646299 |
Jeff "We don't even know for sure BHs exist." Step down, Odd. Get sane, if you can.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 12:23 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger. |
| Message-ID | <on4jdl$fsq$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #646317 |
On 8/17/17 12:13 PM, john wrote: > Jeff > "We don't even know for sure BHs exist." > > Step down, Odd. > Get sane, if you can. > Who is Jeff? -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 10:34 -0700 |
| Subject | Better Servers. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.17--10.34am.Seattle.2017> |
| In reply to | #646322 |
You ( Odd Bodkin ) asked: > Who is Jeff? Check the history of this thread. Comrade Aioe.ORG decides what you can or cannot see. Better Servers: Astra US.News.AstraWeb.COM // Astra updates NewsGroups faster than all others, usually; // but it occationally drops posts left and right, randomly. // Won't let you CrossPost to 3+ NewsGroups. // Posts Clean "From:". "Path:" is pristine ( always ). // $10/25 gigs ( 99+ years ), PayPal. 7+ year Archive. MBnet News.MB-Net.NET // CostFree, Germany. http://open-news-network.org/register // Posts "@.". Drops Anonymous et al. Indi News.Individual.NET // Drops posts. Posts "@.". Won't post HTML to Sci.Physics. BlockNews usNews.BlockNews.NET // No "Path:" ( never ). 14+ year Archive. // $3/5 gigs ( 99+ years ), PayPal. Posts "@.". To update your "knowledge" of "Black Holes" ( past the classical ), please read: WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Black_star_%28semiclassical_gravity%29
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 11:05 -0700 |
| Subject | Better Servers. |
| Message-ID | <0a54cc57-96c1-4237-a339-f6924de5199b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #646327 |
Odd Maybe you blocked Jeff "11:34Jeff-Relf.Me You ( Odd Bodkin ) asked: > Who is Jeff? Check the history of this thread. Comrade Aioe.ORG decides what you can or cannot see. Better Servers: Astra US.News.AstraWeb.COM // Astra updates NewsGroups faster than all others, usually; // but it occationally drops posts left and right, randomly. // Won't let you CrossPost to 3+ NewsGroups. // Posts Clean "From:". "Path:" is pristine ( always ). // $10/25 gigs ( 99+ years ), PayPal. 7+ year Archive. MBnet News.MB-Net.NET // CostFree, Germany. http://open-news-network.org/register // Posts "@.". Drops Anonymous et al. Indi News.Individual.NET // Drops posts. Posts "@.". Won't post HTML to Sci.Physics. BlockNews usNews.BlockNews.NET // No "Path:" ( never ). 14+ year Archive. // $3/5 gigs ( 99+ years ), PayPal. Posts "@.". To update your "knowledge" of "Black Holes" ( past the classical ), please read: WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Black_star_%28semiclassical_gravity%29 "
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 17:11 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Better Servers. |
| Message-ID | <on54a5$1cf5$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #646329 |
On 8/17/17 1:05 PM, john wrote: > Odd > Maybe you blocked Jeff Yes, a long time ago. > "11:34Jeff-Relf.Me > You ( Odd Bodkin ) asked: >> Who is Jeff? > > Check the history of this thread. > Comrade Aioe.ORG decides what you can or cannot see. > > Better Servers: > > Astra US.News.AstraWeb.COM > // Astra updates NewsGroups faster than all others, usually; > // but it occationally drops posts left and right, randomly. > // Won't let you CrossPost to 3+ NewsGroups. > // Posts Clean "From:". "Path:" is pristine ( always ). > // $10/25 gigs ( 99+ years ), PayPal. 7+ year Archive. > > MBnet News.MB-Net.NET > // CostFree, Germany. http://open-news-network.org/register > // Posts "@.". Drops Anonymous et al. > > Indi News.Individual.NET > // Drops posts. Posts "@.". Won't post HTML to Sci.Physics. > > BlockNews usNews.BlockNews.NET > // No "Path:" ( never ). 14+ year Archive. > // $3/5 gigs ( 99+ years ), PayPal. Posts "@.". > > To update your "knowledge" of "Black Holes" ( past the classical ), > please read: WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Black_star_%28semiclassical_gravity%29 " > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 19:54 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger. |
| Message-ID | <on4s95$oke$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #646322 |
Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> writes: >On 8/17/17 12:13 PM, john wrote: >> Jeff >> "We don't even know for sure BHs exist." >> >> Step down, Odd. >> Get sane, if you can. >> >Who is Jeff? Just another nutty poster with his own fixed physics ideas he confuses with reality.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 19:58 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger. |
| Message-ID | <on4si2$vfb$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #646322 |
Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> writes: >Who is Jeff? Oh I see that you post through aioe. One of Jeff Relf's obsessions is posting in HTML, and one of aioe's often oddball rules is not carrying HTML posts in text newsgroups. So you won't see his posts.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 15:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <on4eak$2ku$4@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #646246 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Odd >"Nope that's a model. Just because you have open questions you can raise >doesn't invalidate it. Your reaching too hard for a reason. " >That's no model. >That explains nothing. >That's an anecdote. >Why are there jets? Not part of the Milky Way model since it doesn't have jets, but the GR model explains jets as extreme gravitational acceleration/force combined with the black hole magnetic fields. Lots of ugly GR math. >Why is there an outer and inner halo? As the galaxy merged with smaller galaxies in the past, much of the stars' original motions will be preserved. >Why didn't the stars in the disc get eaten? Stars won't get eaten by a BH unless they get too close and are tidally disrupted or pass beyond the event horizon. >Lots of new stars are always forming- indigestion? Lots of leftover dust and gas. When disturbed (by a supernova, galactic merger or BH jets) the clouds may form into more stars. >Why are GRCs ALWAYS an average of two opposite sides? They aren't. >Why didn't you admit Suck Gravity was wrong when GRCs were discovered? Because anyone who has ever dropped a brick on their toes knows that the theory of gravity works just fine. >Why didn't you admit that star arms are entities when Rainer Beck showed they have their own helical field? They can be considered entities but aren't like a solid mass. Stars can and do move into and out of arms, and between arms. Just about every photo of a spiral galaxy shows the spaces between the arms is full of stars.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 15:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <on4dg3$2ku$3@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #646236 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >MM >"There was a section discussing their Milky Way model. You snipped >it out and then YOU complained they don't have a model. >So why did you complain they don't have a model when their model >was discussed right in the article? Did you not read that part? >If not, why not? Or were you being dishonest and claimed they had >no model, hoping nobody would read the story and its discussion of >their Milky Way model? " >You call that a model? Why yes, I do. But you don't even understand what a scientific model is, so I can understand why you are confused. >Here, I'll précis it; the B happens and creates BHs which eat all the >stars except for outer halo, >then some other galaxies got perturbed as they passed by an some patches of > stars got caught up. >But why are 70% going the wrong way? >That's not a model. THAT is word salad. No, that is a model with a bunch of non-sequiturs thrown at it. Learn what a science model is for once.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 08:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c3d6c237-8293-4415-a972-40e524d5fc72@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #646292 |
MM "No, that is a model with a bunch of non-sequiturs thrown at it. " That's so far from being a model, it's laughable. BB happened. Magic. Stars formed. Magic. Gravity acted. Magic. BHs formed that nothing can get out- except jets going the opposite directions at 90% of lightspeed. Magical SPLASH!! Stars form now within galaxies. Magic. Spherical halos- BH ate all stars within reach EXCEPT the disc and those new stars forming. More magic. Bean counters. STUPID bean counters.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 11:16 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <on4fg8$83m$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #646295 |
On 8/17/17 10:57 AM, john wrote: > MM > "No, that is a model with a bunch of non-sequiturs thrown at it." > That's so far from being a model, it's laughable. > BB happened. Magic. > Stars formed. Magic. > Gravity acted. Magic. > BHs formed that nothing can get out- except jets going the opposite directions at 90% of lightspeed. Magical SPLASH!! > Stars form now within galaxies. Magic. > Spherical halos- BH ate all stars within reach EXCEPT the disc and those new stars forming. More magic. > > Bean counters. STUPID bean counters. > John, you have this problem of using the word "magic" to describe ANYTHING you do not understand or which does not look like a 3D cutaway exhibit in a science museum. What purpose does this propaganda have? All you are doing by saying these things is that science is way over your head, you don't understand it, you don't like it, and you wish it were something that it's not. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-16 09:45 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <on1lpj$7fv$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #646155 |
On 8/16/17 8:10 AM, john wrote: > ed > " >> >> I rest my case > > Good. " > > ed, the problem with the Standard "Model" is that it is just bean-counting. > You only add parts by observation. > You don't do logic. > You have no vision. First of all, vision is a conjecture. Do not confuse conjecture with logic. Saying, "There are five observed layers of complexity in matter, and therefore there are an infinite number of layers of complexity," is NOT LOGIC. It is purely conjecture. > It's not a model- its bean-counting. > > The POINT of Physics is to find useful tools that will allow us to EXTRAPOLATE. Completely agree! And it is natural for human beings to take a handful of observations and to try to make a general rule out of them. This is a biological survival strategy. This is how we came up with ideas like "momentum is mass times velocity" and "mammals give live birth to their young". The problem is then declaring such extrapolations PROVEN by "logic". They are not proven. They are ALWAYS conjectures, which then have to be put to test, over and over and over again. And when we find out that there seems to be an exception to conjectured extrapolation, then the extrapolated rule is proved not to be a rule at all, or is a rule only under certain circumstances. It's this testing against observational evidence over and over and over again that you do not wish to do, John. You're enamored with the extrapolation but couldn't be bothered with the test. And this is what makes you unscientific. > It's not possible to see past a certain distance oy smaller than a certain size. > What then, with your bean-counting? > No more work for you bean-counters that REFUSE to use logic and insight. > > You call that Science? > Really? See above. Really. > > I HAVE a model. > It equates galaxies with atoms. > It PREDICTS things, and EXPLAINS observations And it also predicts OTHER THINGS that are counter to evidence, and therefore the model is WRONG. Period, end of story. It does not MATTER what things it gets right. It matters when it gets things WRONG. This is how science works, whether you like it or not. > like the spherical halo, and where the 3rd Benzene electrons go, and how galactic discs are precessing to skew the galactic rotation curves. > > YOU spew nonsense- AND ITS NOT EVEN YOUR OWN!!! Laughable, how you can believe all that no-structure, no-pathway, no volume, no detail shit. > > But every time you say that planets "curve" spacetime, a zillion aliens ROTFL > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-08-16 16:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <on1qgl$gs2$2@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #646155 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >ed >"find the next fundamental level. As long as there is no >evidence for it existing, we HAVE to conclude it does " >I rest my case Why are you changing ed's statement? >ed, the problem with the Standard "Model" is that it is just bean-counting. >You only add parts by observation. >You don't do logic. >You have no vision. >It's not a model- its bean-counting. No, John, it is you who doesn't do logic. You show up with the crazed preconceived ideas that "it's gotta be retarded precessing spinny things!" and "it's gotta be fractals!" and then you try to twist observations and data and exaggerate that which seems to support your preset ideas and ignore the data which opposes it or refutes it. >The POINT of Physics is to find useful tools that will allow us to EXTRAPOLATE. Yes, but the point of physics is to figure out how Nature works, so the tools (models) are created to predict what happens in other circumstances. > It's not possible to see past a certain distance oy smaller than a certain size. >What then, with your bean-counting? >No more work for you bean-counters that REFUSE to use logic and insight. Logic says that in that case (no evidence either way) is we simply don't know, and science just doesn't have an answer. If the evidence points to, for example, no smaller layers, then the question of what happens at these nonexistent smaller layers is moot. >You call that Science? >Really? Do you understand the Scientific Method at all? No? >I HAVE a model. No you don't. All you have is a bunch of .gifs of retarded precessing spinny things that you claim are atoms, and vague statements such as: >It equates galaxies with atoms. >It PREDICTS things, and EXPLAINS observations No, it doesn't. I have yet to see any sort of math formula from you that states "In the situation X if you do Y you will measure Z as...". You do lots of postdictions, like fiddle with your animation software until you can create an animation you like. You took months to get one for methane going, and you *still* got it wrong, by predicting asymmetry where there is none. >like the spherical halo, and where the 3rd Benzene electrons go, As does science. In contrast to what you do, science predicts things like charged disks above and below the plane of the benzene atoms, and guess what? We can detect that!!! > and how galactic discs are precessing to skew the galactic rotation curves. Any "prediction" that also predicts stuff that we simply don't see is automatically wrong. Retarded precessing galaxies would predict an enormous violation of conservation of energy and momentum that's just not there, so it's automatically wrong. "It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong." -Richard P. Feynman >YOU spew nonsense- AND ITS NOT EVEN YOUR OWN!!! Nobody can create all of science these days. Every scientist has to work based on the works of others. > Laughable, Once again, the laughter you hear isn't people laughing with you, it's people laughing at you. > how you can believe all that no-structure, no-pathway, no volume, no detail shit. What is believed is what the evidence points to. New evidence may change what is believed.
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| From | Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-16 11:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9d047757-f8e8-4398-afc8-28f1b34efaaf@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #646155 |
On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 9:10:10 AM UTC-4, john wrote: > ed > " > > > > I rest my case > > Good. " > > ed, the problem with the Standard "Model" is that it is just bean-counting. if you want to call validation by measurement "bean-counting", sure. > You only add parts by observation. False > You don't do logic. False > You have no vision. Opinion > It's not a model- its bean-counting. Repetitious > > The POINT of Physics is to find useful tools that will > allow us to EXTRAPOLATE. Exactly and the Standard model has so far done PRECISELY that. The standard model was initially developed in the 1960's. here I'll quote wikipedia: "After the neutral weak currents caused by Z boson exchange were discovered at CERN in 1973,[10][11][12][13] the electroweak theory became widely accepted and Glashow, Salam, and Weinberg shared the 1979 Nobel Prize in Physics for discovering it. The W± and Z0 bosons were discovered experimentally in 1983; and the ratio of their masses was found to be as the Standard Model predicted." So in the 1960's the Z and W bosons were unknown. But their masses could be calculated from the equations (bean-counting) of the standard model. Guess what?! they were discovered as predicted! The same appears to be try for the HIGGS boson. So you cannot say modern physics does not have vision. > It's not possible to see past a certain distance > oy smaller than a certain size. Using the tools and techniques of today. So if I cannot measure it in any way, I cannot prove or disprove if it exists. IOW, it is irrelevant fairy tales. > What then, with your bean-counting? > No more work for you bean-counters that REFUSE to use logic and insight. Without measurement, there is no evidence. You can conceive of any fanciful substructure you like, but without evidence of it's existence, it is only conjecture at best. > > You call that Science? > Really? > > I HAVE a model. No you don't. Show ONE calculation from your model that matches anything in reality. > It equates galaxies with atoms. > It PREDICTS things, and EXPLAINS observations Again, show us what can be called a post-diction. any measurement that you can calculate from your "model". > like the spherical halo, and where the 3rd Benzene electrons > go, and how galactic discs are precessing to skew the > galactic rotation curves. these are not predictions. > > YOU spew nonsense- AND ITS NOT EVEN YOUR OWN!!! > Laughable, how you can believe all that no-structure, > no-pathway, no volume, no detail shit. Stop making it a religious discussion. In physics I do not believe in anything. I accept the measurements because I have done some of them I accept the predictions because I have calculated some of them. > > But every time you say that planets "curve" spacetime, > a zillion aliens ROTFL That's what the measurement show. If the model works, use it. Relativity works. Standard model works. Your "model", not working so well. Keep trying.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-16 09:36 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <on1l9u$6k1$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #646136 |
On 8/16/17 12:18 AM, john wrote: > ed > "find the next fundamental level. As long as there is no > evidence for it existing, we HAVE to conclude it does " Do you do this regularly? Why? Here's the quote you snipped from, less than artfully. "As long as there is no evidence for it existing, we HAVE to conclude it does not exist." > > I rest my case > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-08-15 04:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <omtt6l$5b9$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #645944 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >MM >Let's see YOU answer why the star density in a spiral galaxy goes from >high to lower to high but NOT from high to zero to high again as you look >from one arm to the next. " >No. No? Is that your new way of doing your famous "I believe X, but I won't tell you why I believe X. BTW you should believe X even though I can't explain why I believe X". You simply refuse to confront evidence that contradicts your unexplanable belief in X?
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-15 05:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2c3fcebf-2207-4a36-a71c-e240831d6510@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #645964 |
MM " You simply refuse to confront evidence that contradicts your unexplanable belief in X" All your "evidence" is extremely blurry and far-away in both space and Time. You use those chimeras to 'prove' illogical ideas like things without structure or shape or volume. Without fail, closeup images of even Jupiter have changed the story completely. A short time ago, you were arguing that star-arms couldn't be staying together as they orbit galaxies. Rainer Beck has shown that they have a helical magnetic field- they ARE an entity. But you still argue that the stars themselves don't. In spite of GRC measurements indicating that they do. You believe in illogical things. You were indoctrinated into them. You are a zombie.
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