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I figured out charge

Started byjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
First post2017-08-08 14:18 -0700
Last post2017-08-14 19:23 -0700
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  I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 14:18 -0700
    I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 14:23 -0700
    Re: I figured out charge zubeneschgenubi@gmail.com - 2017-08-08 14:44 -0700
      Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 15:58 -0700
        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 16:03 -0700
          Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 16:34 -0700
          Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-08 23:34 +0000
        Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 09:54 -0500
          Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 08:05 -0700
    Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-08 23:28 +0000
      Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 16:44 -0700
        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 16:47 -0700
          Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 17:05 -0700
          Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-08 21:51 -0400
            Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 06:05 -0700
              Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 06:50 -0700
                Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-10 03:53 +0000
          Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-09 02:33 +0000
            Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 06:02 -0700
              Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-10 03:47 +0000
                Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 20:51 -0700
                  Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-10 18:42 +0000
      Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 09:47 -0500
        Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-09 17:44 -0400
          Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 15:23 -0700
            Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-09 20:44 -0400
          Re: I figured out charge Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 16:15 -0700
    Re: I figured out charge Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 08:27 -0700
      Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 10:52 -0700
        Re: I figured out charge zubeneschgenubi@gmail.com - 2017-08-09 16:02 -0700
    Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 13:53 -0700
      Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 14:55 -0700
        Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 16:58 -0500
          Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 15:06 -0700
            Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 17:11 -0500
              Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 15:40 -0700
                Re: I figured out charge pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-08-10 16:16 -0700
                  Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-10 20:28 -0400
                    Re: I figured out charge pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-08-10 21:48 -0700
                Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-11 12:59 +0000
        Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 18:36 -0700
          Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 19:36 -0700
            Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 08:06 -0500
              Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 06:14 -0700
              Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 06:29 -0700
                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 08:40 -0500
                  Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 07:21 -0700
                  Re: I figured out charge Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 07:21 -0700
                    Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 08:21 -0700
                      Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 17:54 +0000
                        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 12:15 -0700
                          Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 14:44 -0500
                            Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 05:41 -0700
                              Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 06:49 -0700
                                Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 07:05 -0700
                                  Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 08:28 -0700
                                  Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 10:43 -0500
                                    Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 08:59 -0700
                                      Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 14:26 -0500
                                        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 13:52 -0700
                                          Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 20:59 +0000
                                            Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 14:23 -0700
                                              Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 15:43 -0700
                                                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 00:12 +0000
                                                  Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 18:34 -0700
                                                    Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 05:11 -0700
                                                      Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 08:04 -0700
                                                        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 08:21 -0700
                                                          Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-14 02:21 +0000
                                                            Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 19:34 -0700
                                                              Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 19:46 -0700
                                                                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 03:05 +0000
                                                              Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-14 03:15 +0000
                                                                Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 04:49 -0700
                                                                  Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-14 14:05 +0000
                                                                    Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 07:20 -0700
                                                                      Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-14 16:35 +0000
                                                                        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 09:47 -0700
                                                                          Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-14 19:55 +0000
                                                                            Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 16:40 -0700
                                                                              Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 18:24 -0700
                                                                                Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-15 13:21 +0000
                                                                                  Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 06:34 -0700
                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:00 +0000
                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-15 17:39 +0000
                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-15 18:12 -0400
                                                                                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:02 +0000
                                                                                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:07 -0500
                                                                                Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 19:45 -0700
                                                                                  Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 22:18 -0700
                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 22:28 -0700
                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 05:49 -0700
                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 06:10 -0700
                                                                                        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 06:25 -0700
                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 09:51 -0500
                                                                                            Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 16:13 -0500
                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-16 16:09 +0000
                                                                                            Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 10:05 -0700
                                                                                              Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 10:10 -0700
                                                                                                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 13:38 -0500
                                                                                              Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 12:51 -0500
                                                                                              Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-16 18:26 +0000
                                                                                                Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 18:24 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 01:46 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 19:08 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 02:28 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 19:39 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 03:22 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 04:51 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:39 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 06:00 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 13:22 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-17 09:01 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 09:06 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: I figured out charge Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-17 09:18 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 15:28 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 17:39 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 07:51 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:02 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 09:32 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:05 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:10 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:30 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 17:30 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 15:18 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 08:32 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:03 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 09:34 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:58 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: I figured out charge Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-17 16:00 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 17:27 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 09:13 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 09:36 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:01 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:05 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:17 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:21 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:32 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 20:27 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 18:18 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 17:14 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 19:21 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 05:54 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 07:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 06:25 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 08:33 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 08:49 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 07:25 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 08:15 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 13:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 13:55 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 12:54 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 13:37 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 21:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 21:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 07:19 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 17:50 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:13 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:20 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:26 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 20:10 +0000
                                                                                                                At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:13 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:23 -0500
                                                                                                                    Better Servers. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-08-17 10:34 -0700
                                                                                                                      Better Servers. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:05 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Better Servers. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 17:11 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 19:54 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 19:58 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 15:56 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 15:41 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 08:57 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:16 -0500
                                                                                        Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 09:45 -0500
                                                                                        Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-16 16:05 +0000
                                                                                        Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 11:01 -0700
                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 09:36 -0500
                                                                              Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-15 04:27 +0000
                                                                                Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 05:20 -0700
                                                                                  Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-15 13:34 +0000
                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 06:42 -0700
                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:02 +0000
                                                                                        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 09:02 -0700
                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 12:45 -0500
                                                                                        Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:21 -0500
                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-15 17:48 +0000
                                                                              Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 12:42 -0500
                                                                      Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 11:25 -0700
                                                                      Re: I figured out charge Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 19:31 -0500
                                                                        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 18:31 -0700
                                                                          Re: I figured out charge Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 19:31 -0500
                                                        Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 18:01 -0500
                                                    Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 18:00 -0500
                                                      Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 16:40 -0700
                                                        Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 23:45 +0000
                                                          Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 16:58 -0700
                                                            Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 17:08 -0700
                                                              Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 08:42 -0500
                                                        Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 08:34 -0500
                                                          Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 07:30 -0700
                                                            Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 11:55 -0500
                                                              Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 10:21 -0700
                                                                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 12:27 -0500
                                                                  Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:16 -0700
                                                                    Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:27 -0700
                                                                    Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 09:35 -0500
                                                              Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 10:24 -0700
                                                                Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 11:39 -0700
                                                                  Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 12:10 -0700
                                                                    Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 12:47 -0700
                                                                    Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 12:28 -0500
                                                                  Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 12:27 -0500
                                                                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 12:27 -0500
                                                            Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 11:28 -0700
                                                              Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-16 15:23 +0000
                                                Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-13 01:06 +0000
                                              Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 00:12 +0000
                                                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 18:01 -0500
                                              Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-13 01:01 +0000
                              Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 10:42 -0500
                              Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-13 02:27 +0000
                                Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 19:55 -0700
                              Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 19:59 -0700
                                Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 20:12 -0700
                                  Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 20:22 -0700
                            Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-13 01:11 +0000
              Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-11 18:18 -0400
                Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 16:48 -0700
    Re: I figured out charge "Efftard K .Donglemeier" <sender@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-14 19:23 -0700

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#646320

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-17 10:20 -0700
Message-ID<005545ac-7914-4e0d-b0c7-29c39338ea3e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#646318
ed
"

> What great comedy! Tell us more magical math 

There is a lot of magic related to math. But it would just bore you "

BHs ARE entertaining- but terminally stupid. And definitely just math with some factors missing.
Gravity approaches a LIMIT, just like anything.
Pyramid schemes DONT WORK, because the base is not infinite.

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#646324

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-17 12:26 -0500
Message-ID<on4jk2$fsq$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#646320
On 8/17/17 12:20 PM, john wrote:
> ed
> "
> 
>> What great comedy! Tell us more magical math
> 
> There is a lot of magic related to math. But it would just bore you "
> 
> BHs ARE entertaining- but terminally stupid. And definitely just math with some factors missing.
> Gravity approaches a LIMIT, just like anything.
> Pyramid schemes DONT WORK, because the base is not infinite.
> 

John, you asked about whether gravity crushes matter. Let's talk about 
this for a second.

What, in your mind, accounts for the solidity of steel? Why does it 
resist when you pound on it? Why doesn't it just splash like water?
What makes it solid?

(There's a real physics answer here. It's called degeneracy pressure and 
quantum mechanics explained it. But I await your thoughts on it.)

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#646354

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-08-17 20:10 +0000
Message-ID<on4t7e$vfb$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#646320
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Gravity approaches a LIMIT, just like anything.

So what's the limit of 1/r^2 as r approaches 0?

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#646317 — At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger.

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-17 10:13 -0700
SubjectAt the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger.
Message-ID<f29ded5d-e8f6-4d69-86d7-f24721732fde@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#646299
Jeff
"We don't even know for sure BHs exist."

Step down, Odd.
Get sane, if you can.

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#646322 — Re: At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger.

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-17 12:23 -0500
SubjectRe: At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger.
Message-ID<on4jdl$fsq$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#646317
On 8/17/17 12:13 PM, john wrote:
> Jeff
> "We don't even know for sure BHs exist."
> 
> Step down, Odd.
> Get sane, if you can.
> 

Who is Jeff?

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#646327 — Better Servers.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2017-08-17 10:34 -0700
SubjectBetter Servers.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.17--10.34am.Seattle.2017>
In reply to#646322
You ( Odd Bodkin ) asked:
> Who is Jeff?

Check the history of this thread.
Comrade Aioe.ORG decides what you can or cannot see.

Better Servers:

  Astra   US.News.AstraWeb.COM
  //  Astra updates NewsGroups faster than all others, usually;
  //  but it occationally drops posts left and right, randomly.
  //  Won't let you CrossPost to 3+ NewsGroups.
  //  Posts Clean "From:".  "Path:" is pristine ( always ).
  //  $10/25 gigs ( 99+ years ), PayPal.    7+  year Archive.

  MBnet   News.MB-Net.NET
  //  CostFree, Germany.  http://open-news-network.org/register
  //  Posts "@.".  Drops Anonymous et al.

  Indi   News.Individual.NET
  //  Drops posts.  Posts "@.".  Won't post HTML to Sci.Physics.

  BlockNews   usNews.BlockNews.NET
  //  No "Path:" ( never ).  14+ year Archive.
  //  $3/5 gigs ( 99+ years ), PayPal.  Posts "@.".

To update your "knowledge" of "Black Holes" ( past the classical ),
please read:  WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Black_star_%28semiclassical_gravity%29

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#646329 — Better Servers.

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-17 11:05 -0700
SubjectBetter Servers.
Message-ID<0a54cc57-96c1-4237-a339-f6924de5199b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#646327
Odd
Maybe you blocked Jeff
"11:34Jeff-Relf.Me
You ( Odd Bodkin ) asked: 
> Who is Jeff? 

Check the history of this thread. 
Comrade Aioe.ORG decides what you can or cannot see. 

Better Servers: 

  Astra   US.News.AstraWeb.COM 
  //  Astra updates NewsGroups faster than all others, usually; 
  //  but it occationally drops posts left and right, randomly. 
  //  Won't let you CrossPost to 3+ NewsGroups. 
  //  Posts Clean "From:".  "Path:" is pristine ( always ). 
  //  $10/25 gigs ( 99+ years ), PayPal.    7+  year Archive. 

  MBnet   News.MB-Net.NET 
  //  CostFree, Germany.  http://open-news-network.org/register 
  //  Posts "@.".  Drops Anonymous et al. 

  Indi   News.Individual.NET 
  //  Drops posts.  Posts "@.".  Won't post HTML to Sci.Physics. 

  BlockNews   usNews.BlockNews.NET 
  //  No "Path:" ( never ).  14+ year Archive. 
  //  $3/5 gigs ( 99+ years ), PayPal.  Posts "@.". 

To update your "knowledge" of "Black Holes" ( past the classical ), 
please read:  WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Black_star_%28semiclassical_gravity%29 "

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#646383 — Re: Better Servers.

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-17 17:11 -0500
SubjectRe: Better Servers.
Message-ID<on54a5$1cf5$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#646329
On 8/17/17 1:05 PM, john wrote:
> Odd
> Maybe you blocked Jeff

Yes, a long time ago.

> "11:34Jeff-Relf.Me
> You ( Odd Bodkin ) asked:
>> Who is Jeff?
> 
> Check the history of this thread.
> Comrade Aioe.ORG decides what you can or cannot see.
> 
> Better Servers:
> 
>    Astra   US.News.AstraWeb.COM
>    //  Astra updates NewsGroups faster than all others, usually;
>    //  but it occationally drops posts left and right, randomly.
>    //  Won't let you CrossPost to 3+ NewsGroups.
>    //  Posts Clean "From:".  "Path:" is pristine ( always ).
>    //  $10/25 gigs ( 99+ years ), PayPal.    7+  year Archive.
> 
>    MBnet   News.MB-Net.NET
>    //  CostFree, Germany.  http://open-news-network.org/register
>    //  Posts "@.".  Drops Anonymous et al.
> 
>    Indi   News.Individual.NET
>    //  Drops posts.  Posts "@.".  Won't post HTML to Sci.Physics.
> 
>    BlockNews   usNews.BlockNews.NET
>    //  No "Path:" ( never ).  14+ year Archive.
>    //  $3/5 gigs ( 99+ years ), PayPal.  Posts "@.".
> 
> To update your "knowledge" of "Black Holes" ( past the classical ),
> please read:  WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Black_star_%28semiclassical_gravity%29 "
> 


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#646348 — Re: At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger.

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-08-17 19:54 +0000
SubjectRe: At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger.
Message-ID<on4s95$oke$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#646322
Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> writes:

>On 8/17/17 12:13 PM, john wrote:
>> Jeff
>> "We don't even know for sure BHs exist."
>> 
>> Step down, Odd.
>> Get sane, if you can.
>> 

>Who is Jeff?

Just another nutty poster with his own fixed physics ideas he confuses with
reality.

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#646349 — Re: At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger.

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-08-17 19:58 +0000
SubjectRe: At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger.
Message-ID<on4si2$vfb$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#646322
Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> writes:

>Who is Jeff?

Oh I see that you post through aioe.

One of Jeff Relf's obsessions is posting in HTML, and one of aioe's often
oddball rules is not carrying HTML posts in text newsgroups. So you won't
see his posts.

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#646294

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-08-17 15:56 +0000
Message-ID<on4eak$2ku$4@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#646246
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Odd
>"Nope that's a model. Just because you have open questions you can raise 
>doesn't invalidate it. Your reaching too hard for a reason. "

>That's no model.
>That explains nothing.
>That's an anecdote.

>Why are there jets?

Not part of the Milky Way model since it doesn't have jets, but the GR
model explains jets as extreme gravitational acceleration/force combined
with the black hole magnetic fields. Lots of ugly GR math.

>Why is there an outer and inner halo?

As the galaxy merged with smaller galaxies in the past, much of the stars'
original motions will be preserved.

>Why didn't the stars in the disc get eaten?

Stars won't get eaten by a BH unless they get too close and are tidally
disrupted or pass beyond the event horizon.

>Lots of new stars are always forming- indigestion?

Lots of leftover dust and gas.  When disturbed (by a supernova, galactic
merger or BH jets) the clouds may form into more stars.

>Why are GRCs ALWAYS an average of two opposite sides?

They aren't.

>Why didn't you admit Suck Gravity was wrong when GRCs were discovered?

Because anyone who has ever dropped a brick on their toes knows that
the theory of gravity works just fine.

>Why didn't you admit that star arms are entities when Rainer Beck showed they have their own helical field?

They can be considered entities but aren't like a solid mass. Stars can and
do move into and out of arms, and between arms. Just about every photo of a
spiral galaxy shows the spaces between the arms is full of stars.

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#646292

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-08-17 15:41 +0000
Message-ID<on4dg3$2ku$3@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#646236
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>"There was a section discussing their Milky Way model.  You snipped
>it out and then YOU complained they don't have a model.

>So why did you complain they don't have a model when their model
>was discussed right in the article?  Did you not read that part?
>If not, why not?  Or were you being dishonest and claimed they had
>no model, hoping nobody would read the story and its discussion of
>their Milky Way model? "
>You call that a model?

Why yes, I do.  But you don't even understand what a scientific model is,
so I can understand why you are confused.

>Here, I'll précis it; the B happens and creates BHs which eat all the
>stars except for outer halo,
>then some other galaxies got perturbed as they passed by an some patches of
> stars got caught up.
>But why are 70% going the wrong way?

>That's not a model. THAT is word salad.

No, that is a model with a bunch of non-sequiturs thrown at it.

Learn what a science model is for once.

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#646295

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-17 08:57 -0700
Message-ID<c3d6c237-8293-4415-a972-40e524d5fc72@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#646292
MM
"No, that is a model with a bunch of non-sequiturs thrown at it. "
That's so far from being a model, it's laughable.
BB happened. Magic.
Stars formed. Magic.
Gravity acted. Magic.
BHs formed that nothing can get out- except jets going the opposite directions at 90% of lightspeed. Magical SPLASH!!
Stars form now within galaxies. Magic.
Spherical halos- BH ate all stars within reach EXCEPT the disc and those new stars forming. More magic.

Bean counters. STUPID bean counters.

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#646300

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-17 11:16 -0500
Message-ID<on4fg8$83m$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#646295
On 8/17/17 10:57 AM, john wrote:
> MM
> "No, that is a model with a bunch of non-sequiturs thrown at it."
> That's so far from being a model, it's laughable.
> BB happened. Magic.
> Stars formed. Magic.
> Gravity acted. Magic.
> BHs formed that nothing can get out- except jets going the opposite directions at 90% of lightspeed. Magical SPLASH!!
> Stars form now within galaxies. Magic.
> Spherical halos- BH ate all stars within reach EXCEPT the disc and those new stars forming. More magic.
> 
> Bean counters. STUPID bean counters.
> 

John, you have this problem of using the word "magic" to describe 
ANYTHING you do not understand or which does not look like a 3D cutaway 
exhibit in a science museum.

What purpose does this propaganda have?

All you are doing by saying these things is that science is way over 
your head, you don't understand it, you don't like it, and you wish it 
were something that it's not.

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#646164

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-16 09:45 -0500
Message-ID<on1lpj$7fv$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#646155
On 8/16/17 8:10 AM, john wrote:
> ed
> "
>>
>> I rest my case
> 
> Good. "
> 
> ed, the problem with the Standard "Model" is that it is just bean-counting.
> You only add parts by observation.
> You don't do logic.
> You have no vision.

First of all, vision is a conjecture. Do not confuse conjecture with 
logic. Saying, "There are five observed layers of complexity in matter, 
and therefore there are an infinite number of layers of complexity," is 
NOT LOGIC. It is purely conjecture.

> It's not a model- its bean-counting.
> 
> The POINT of Physics is to find useful tools that will allow us to EXTRAPOLATE. 

Completely agree! And it is natural for human beings to take a handful 
of observations and to try to make a general rule out of them. This is a 
biological survival strategy. This is how we came up with ideas like 
"momentum is mass times velocity" and "mammals give live birth to their 
young".

The problem is then declaring such extrapolations PROVEN by "logic". 
They are not proven. They are ALWAYS conjectures, which then have to be 
put to test, over and over and over again. And when we find out that 
there seems to be an exception to conjectured extrapolation, then the 
extrapolated rule is proved not to be a rule at all, or is a rule only 
under certain circumstances.

It's this testing against observational evidence over and over and over 
again that you do not wish to do, John. You're enamored with the 
extrapolation but couldn't be bothered with the test. And this is what 
makes you unscientific.

> It's not possible to see past a certain distance oy smaller than a certain size.
> What then, with your bean-counting?
> No more work for you bean-counters that REFUSE to use logic and insight.
> 
> You call that Science?
> Really?

See above. Really.

> 
> I HAVE a model.
> It equates galaxies with atoms.
> It PREDICTS things, and EXPLAINS observations

And it also predicts OTHER THINGS that are counter to evidence, and 
therefore the model is WRONG. Period, end of story. It does not MATTER 
what things it gets right. It matters when it gets things WRONG. This is 
how science works, whether you like it or not.

> like the spherical halo, and where the 3rd Benzene electrons go, and how galactic discs are precessing to skew the galactic rotation curves.
> 
> YOU spew nonsense- AND ITS NOT EVEN YOUR OWN!!! Laughable, how you can believe all that no-structure, no-pathway, no volume, no detail shit.
> 
> But every time you say that planets "curve" spacetime, a zillion aliens ROTFL
> 


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#646172

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-08-16 16:05 +0000
Message-ID<on1qgl$gs2$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#646155
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>ed
>"find the next fundamental level. As long as there is no 
>evidence for it existing, we HAVE to conclude it does "

>I rest my case

Why are you changing ed's statement?

>ed, the problem with the Standard "Model" is that it is just bean-counting.
>You only add parts by observation.
>You don't do logic.
>You have no vision.
>It's not a model- its bean-counting.

No, John, it is you who doesn't do logic.  You show up with the crazed
preconceived ideas that "it's gotta be retarded precessing spinny things!"
and "it's gotta be fractals!" and then you try to twist observations and
data and exaggerate that which seems to support your preset ideas and ignore
the data which opposes it or refutes it.

>The POINT of Physics is to find useful tools that will allow us to EXTRAPOLATE.

Yes, but the point of physics is to figure out how Nature works, so the tools
(models) are created to predict what happens in other circumstances.

> It's not possible to see past a certain distance oy smaller than a certain size.
>What then, with your bean-counting?
>No more work for you bean-counters that REFUSE to use logic and insight.

Logic says that in that case (no evidence either way) is we simply don't know,
and science just doesn't have an answer.

If the evidence points to, for example, no smaller layers, then the question of
what happens at these nonexistent smaller layers is moot.

>You call that Science?
>Really?

Do you understand the Scientific Method at all? No?

>I HAVE a model.

No you don't. All you have is a bunch of .gifs of retarded precessing spinny
things that you claim are atoms, and vague statements such as:

>It equates galaxies with atoms.



>It PREDICTS things, and EXPLAINS observations 

No, it doesn't. I have yet to see any sort of math formula from you
that states "In the situation X if you do Y you will measure Z as...".
You do lots of postdictions, like fiddle with your animation software until you
can create an animation you like.  You took months to get one for methane going,
and you *still* got it wrong, by predicting asymmetry where there is none.

>like the spherical halo, and where the 3rd Benzene electrons go,

As does science. In contrast to what you do, science predicts things like
charged disks above and below the plane of the benzene atoms, and guess what?
We can detect that!!!

> and how galactic discs are precessing to skew the galactic rotation curves.

Any "prediction" that also predicts stuff that we simply don't see is automatically
wrong.  Retarded precessing galaxies would predict an enormous violation of
conservation of energy and momentum that's just not there, so it's automatically
wrong.

"It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how
smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong."

-Richard P. Feynman


>YOU spew nonsense- AND ITS NOT EVEN YOUR OWN!!!

Nobody can create all of science these days. Every scientist has to work based
on the works of others.

> Laughable,

Once again, the laughter you hear isn't people laughing with you, it's people
laughing at you.

> how you can believe all that no-structure, no-pathway, no volume, no detail shit.

What is believed is what the evidence points to. New evidence may change what
is believed.

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#646183

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-16 11:01 -0700
Message-ID<9d047757-f8e8-4398-afc8-28f1b34efaaf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#646155
On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 9:10:10 AM UTC-4, john wrote:
> ed
> "
> > 
> > I rest my case 
> 
> Good. "
> 
> ed, the problem with the Standard "Model" is that it is just bean-counting.

if you want to call validation by measurement "bean-counting", sure.

> You only add parts by observation.
False
> You don't do logic.
False
> You have no vision.
Opinion
> It's not a model- its bean-counting.
Repetitious
> 
> The POINT of Physics is to find useful tools that will
> allow us to EXTRAPOLATE.

Exactly and the Standard model has so far done PRECISELY that.
The standard model was initially developed in the 1960's.
here I'll quote wikipedia:
"After the neutral weak currents caused by Z boson exchange were discovered at CERN in 1973,[10][11][12][13] the electroweak theory became widely accepted and Glashow, Salam, and Weinberg shared the 1979 Nobel Prize in Physics for discovering it. The W± and Z0 bosons were discovered experimentally in 1983; and the ratio of their masses was found to be as the Standard Model predicted."

So in the 1960's the Z and W bosons were unknown. But their masses could
be calculated from the equations (bean-counting) of the standard model.
Guess what?! they were discovered as predicted!

The same appears to be try for the HIGGS boson.

So you cannot say modern physics does not have vision.


> It's not possible to see past a certain distance
> oy smaller than a certain size.

Using the tools and techniques of today. So if I cannot
measure it in any way, I cannot prove or disprove if it exists.
IOW, it is irrelevant fairy tales.

> What then, with your bean-counting?
> No more work for you bean-counters that REFUSE to use logic and insight.

Without measurement, there is no evidence. You can conceive
of any fanciful substructure you like, but without evidence
of it's existence, it is only conjecture at best.

> 
> You call that Science?
> Really?
> 
> I HAVE a model.

No you don't. Show ONE calculation from your model that matches
anything in reality.

> It equates galaxies with atoms.
> It PREDICTS things, and EXPLAINS observations 

Again, show us what can be called a post-diction.
any measurement that you can calculate from your "model".

> like the spherical halo, and where the 3rd Benzene electrons
> go, and how galactic discs are precessing to skew the
> galactic rotation curves.

these are not predictions.
> 
> YOU spew nonsense- AND ITS NOT EVEN YOUR OWN!!!
> Laughable, how you can believe all that no-structure,
> no-pathway, no volume, no detail shit.

Stop making it a religious discussion.
In physics I do not believe in anything.
I accept the measurements because I have done some of them
I accept the predictions because I have calculated some of them.

> 
> But every time you say that planets "curve" spacetime, 
> a zillion aliens ROTFL

That's what the measurement show.
If the model works, use it.
Relativity works. Standard model works.
Your "model", not working so well.

Keep trying.

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#646163

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-16 09:36 -0500
Message-ID<on1l9u$6k1$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#646136
On 8/16/17 12:18 AM, john wrote:
> ed
> "find the next fundamental level. As long as there is no
> evidence for it existing, we HAVE to conclude it does "

Do you do this regularly? Why?

Here's the quote you snipped from, less than artfully.

"As long as there is no
evidence for it existing, we HAVE to conclude it does
not exist."

> 
> I rest my case
> 


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#645964

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-08-15 04:27 +0000
Message-ID<omtt6l$5b9$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#645944
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>Let's see YOU answer why the star density in a spiral galaxy goes from 
>high to lower to high but NOT from high to zero to high again as you look 
>from one arm to the next. "

>No.

No? Is that your new way of doing your famous "I believe X, but I won't
tell you why I believe X. BTW you should believe X even though I can't
explain why I believe X".

You simply refuse to confront evidence that contradicts your unexplanable
belief in X?

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Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-15 05:20 -0700
Message-ID<2c3fcebf-2207-4a36-a71c-e240831d6510@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#645964
MM
"
You simply refuse to confront evidence that contradicts your unexplanable 
belief in X"

All your "evidence" is extremely blurry and far-away  in both space and Time.
You use those chimeras to 'prove' illogical ideas like things without structure or shape or volume.
Without fail, closeup images of even Jupiter have changed the story completely.

A short time ago, you were arguing that star-arms couldn't be staying together as they orbit galaxies. Rainer Beck has shown that they have a helical magnetic field- they ARE an entity. But you still argue that the stars themselves don't. In spite of GRC measurements indicating that they do.

You believe in illogical things. You were indoctrinated into them. You are a zombie.

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