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| Started by | Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> |
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| First post | 2017-07-27 17:26 -0500 |
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Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-27 17:26 -0500
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 15:31 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-07-27 16:57 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 17:35 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-07-27 18:20 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 18:32 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 01:55 +0000
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 19:37 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 02:56 +0000
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 10:07 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 12:24 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 20:21 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 13:44 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 20:37 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 11:40 +0000
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 12:19 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2017-07-30 10:23 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 15:17 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-07-30 12:53 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 20:04 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 20:08 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 13:42 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 20:01 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-07-30 12:47 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 14:23 +0000
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-02 12:53 -0500
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 13:00 -0500
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 11:45 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 18:48 +0000
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 17:17 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-04 01:22 +0000
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Mushnik <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-03 20:30 -0500
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 13:48 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 15:15 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 11:03 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 11:19 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 11:42 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 11:52 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 12:09 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-02 13:53 -0500
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 12:01 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 12:13 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-02 14:45 -0500
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 15:19 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 15:37 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 10:27 -0500
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 09:07 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-08-03 09:48 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 09:56 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 14:14 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Mushnik <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-03 12:33 -0500
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 12:12 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-03 12:25 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 19:02 +0000
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 14:10 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 17:21 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-08-03 18:27 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-04 13:39 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 15:29 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 19:48 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 05:39 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 08:50 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 10:23 -0500
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 08:52 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 20:06 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-27 20:11 -0500
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 22:46 -0700
Re: Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 13:46 -0700
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| From | Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-27 17:26 -0500 |
| Subject | Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own,Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments as demonstrated by James McGinn |
| Message-ID | <oldpb8$6iu$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
https://www.avaresearch.com/files/UnskilledAndUnawareOfIt.pdf "People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many social and intellectual domains. Why people tend to hold overly optimistic and miscalibrated views about themselves ? Not only do they reach mistaken conclusions and make regrettable errors, but their incompetence robs them of the ability to realize it. Several analyses linked this miscalibration to deficits in metacognitive skill, or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. Paradoxically, improving the skills of participants, and thus increasing their metacognitive competence, helped them recognize the limitations of their abilities." It is one of the essential features of such incompetence that the person so afflicted, James McGinn is incapable of knowing that he, Cladious Denk is incompetent. rest of paper at http://www.jerwood-no.org.uk/pdf/Dunning%20Kruger.pdf from the paper; "Predictions These shards of empirical evidence suggest that incompetent individuals have more difficulty recognizing their true level of ability than do more competent individuals and that a lack of metacognitive skills may underlie this deficiency. Thus, we made four specific predictions about the links between competence, metacognitive ability, and inflated self-assessment. Prediction 1. Incompetent individuals, compared with their more competent peers, will dramatically overestimate their ability and performance relative to objective criteria. Prediction 2. Incompetent individuals will suffer from deficient metacognitive skills, in that they will be less able than their more competent peers to recognize competence when they see it—be it their own or anyone else's. Prediction 3. Incompetent individuals will be less able than their more competent peers to gain insight into their true level of performance by means of social comparison information. In particular, because of their difficulty recognizing competence in others, incompetent individuals will be unable to use information about the choices and performances of others to form more accurate impressions of their own ability. Prediction 4. The incompetent can gain insight about their shortcomings, but this comes (paradoxically) by making them more competent, thus providing them the metacognitive skills necessary to be able to realize that they have performed poorly."
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| From | Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-27 15:31 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8cb5f258-5c94-41a1-ab64-02b42a3bdded@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #642948 |
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 3:26:56 PM UTC-7, Serg io wrote: > https://www.avaresearch.com/files/UnskilledAndUnawareOfIt.pdf > > "People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many > social and intellectual domains. Why people tend to hold overly > optimistic and miscalibrated views about themselves ? Not only do they > reach mistaken conclusions and make regrettable errors, but their > incompetence robs them of the ability to realize it. > > Several analyses linked this miscalibration to deficits in metacognitive > skill, or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. > > Paradoxically, improving the skills of participants, and thus increasing > their metacognitive competence, helped them recognize the limitations of > their abilities." > > It is one of the essential features of such incompetence that the person > so afflicted, James McGinn is incapable of knowing that he, Cladious > Denk is incompetent. > > > rest of paper at > http://www.jerwood-no.org.uk/pdf/Dunning%20Kruger.pdf > > from the paper; > "Predictions > These shards of empirical evidence suggest that incompetent > individuals have more difficulty recognizing their true level of > ability than do more competent individuals and that a lack of > metacognitive skills may underlie this deficiency. Thus, we made > four specific predictions about the links between competence, > metacognitive ability, and inflated self-assessment. > > Prediction 1. Incompetent individuals, compared with their > more competent peers, will dramatically overestimate their ability > and performance relative to objective criteria. > > Prediction 2. Incompetent individuals will suffer from deficient > metacognitive skills, in that they will be less able than their more > competent peers to recognize competence when they see it—be it > their own or anyone else's. > > Prediction 3. Incompetent individuals will be less able than their > more competent peers to gain insight into their true level of > performance by means of social comparison information. In particular, > because of their difficulty recognizing competence in others, > incompetent individuals will be unable to use information > about the choices and performances of others to form more accurate > impressions of their own ability. > > Prediction 4. The incompetent can gain insight about their > shortcomings, but this comes (paradoxically) by making them > more competent, thus providing them the metacognitive skills > necessary to be able to realize that they have performed poorly." Do you just have nothing to do all day?
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| From | pnalsing@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-07-27 16:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <62f9f87d-0a68-4cd0-8890-fb9246a1f333@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #642949 |
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 3:31:54 PM UTC-7, Claudius Denk wrote: > On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 3:26:56 PM UTC-7, Serg io wrote: > > https://www.avaresearch.com/files/UnskilledAndUnawareOfIt.pdf > > > > "People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many > > social and intellectual domains. Why people tend to hold overly > > optimistic and miscalibrated views about themselves ? Not only do they > > reach mistaken conclusions and make regrettable errors, but their > > incompetence robs them of the ability to realize it. > > > > Several analyses linked this miscalibration to deficits in metacognitive > > skill, or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. > > > > Paradoxically, improving the skills of participants, and thus increasing > > their metacognitive competence, helped them recognize the limitations of > > their abilities." > > > > It is one of the essential features of such incompetence that the person > > so afflicted, James McGinn is incapable of knowing that he, Cladious > > Denk is incompetent. > > > > > > rest of paper at > > http://www.jerwood-no.org.uk/pdf/Dunning%20Kruger.pdf > > > > from the paper; > > "Predictions > > These shards of empirical evidence suggest that incompetent > > individuals have more difficulty recognizing their true level of > > ability than do more competent individuals and that a lack of > > metacognitive skills may underlie this deficiency. Thus, we made > > four specific predictions about the links between competence, > > metacognitive ability, and inflated self-assessment. > > > > Prediction 1. Incompetent individuals, compared with their > > more competent peers, will dramatically overestimate their ability > > and performance relative to objective criteria. > > > > Prediction 2. Incompetent individuals will suffer from deficient > > metacognitive skills, in that they will be less able than their more > > competent peers to recognize competence when they see it—be it > > their own or anyone else's. > > > > Prediction 3. Incompetent individuals will be less able than their > > more competent peers to gain insight into their true level of > > performance by means of social comparison information. In particular, > > because of their difficulty recognizing competence in others, > > incompetent individuals will be unable to use information > > about the choices and performances of others to form more accurate > > impressions of their own ability. > > > > Prediction 4. The incompetent can gain insight about their > > shortcomings, but this comes (paradoxically) by making them > > more competent, thus providing them the metacognitive skills > > necessary to be able to realize that they have performed poorly." > > Do you just have nothing to do all day? Have you finally acquired the metacognitive skills necessary to be able to realize that you have performed poorly yet, Jim? I can assure you, without a doubt, that you have and are performing poorly, almost as though you don't know the first thing about physics... which you don't.
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-27 17:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4452eefb-1f11-4165-af5f-b8fff8a0ea70@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #642973 |
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 4:57:46 PM UTC-7, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 3:31:54 PM UTC-7, Claudius Denk wrote: > > On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 3:26:56 PM UTC-7, Serg io wrote: > > > https://www.avaresearch.com/files/UnskilledAndUnawareOfIt.pdf > > > > > > "People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many > > > social and intellectual domains. Why people tend to hold overly > > > optimistic and miscalibrated views about themselves ? Not only do they > > > reach mistaken conclusions and make regrettable errors, but their > > > incompetence robs them of the ability to realize it. > > > > > > Several analyses linked this miscalibration to deficits in metacognitive > > > skill, or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. > > > > > > Paradoxically, improving the skills of participants, and thus increasing > > > their metacognitive competence, helped them recognize the limitations of > > > their abilities." > > > > > > It is one of the essential features of such incompetence that the person > > > so afflicted, James McGinn is incapable of knowing that he, Cladious > > > Denk is incompetent. > > > > > > > > > rest of paper at > > > http://www.jerwood-no.org.uk/pdf/Dunning%20Kruger.pdf > > > > > > from the paper; > > > "Predictions > > > These shards of empirical evidence suggest that incompetent > > > individuals have more difficulty recognizing their true level of > > > ability than do more competent individuals and that a lack of > > > metacognitive skills may underlie this deficiency. Thus, we made > > > four specific predictions about the links between competence, > > > metacognitive ability, and inflated self-assessment. > > > > > > Prediction 1. Incompetent individuals, compared with their > > > more competent peers, will dramatically overestimate their ability > > > and performance relative to objective criteria. > > > > > > Prediction 2. Incompetent individuals will suffer from deficient > > > metacognitive skills, in that they will be less able than their more > > > competent peers to recognize competence when they see it—be it > > > their own or anyone else's. > > > > > > Prediction 3. Incompetent individuals will be less able than their > > > more competent peers to gain insight into their true level of > > > performance by means of social comparison information. In particular, > > > because of their difficulty recognizing competence in others, > > > incompetent individuals will be unable to use information > > > about the choices and performances of others to form more accurate > > > impressions of their own ability. > > > > > > Prediction 4. The incompetent can gain insight about their > > > shortcomings, but this comes (paradoxically) by making them > > > more competent, thus providing them the metacognitive skills > > > necessary to be able to realize that they have performed poorly." > > > > Do you just have nothing to do all day? > > Have you finally acquired the metacognitive skills necessary to be able to realize that you have performed poorly yet, Jim? I can assure you, without a doubt, that you have and are performing poorly, almost as though you don't know the first thing about physics... which you don't. Uh, I think I know how to read a steam table chart. How about you? LOL.
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| From | pnalsing@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-07-27 18:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <506b8f5a-2e2a-4c5c-9bcb-3f40c1e29f1e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #642984 |
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 5:35:22 PM UTC-7, James McGinn wrote: > On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 4:57:46 PM UTC-7, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: > > Have you finally acquired the metacognitive skills necessary to be able to realize that you have performed poorly yet, Jim? I can assure you, without a doubt, that you have and are performing poorly, almost as though you don't know the first thing about physics... which you don't. > > Uh, I think I know how to read a steam table chart. > > How about you? No, Jim, you do NOT know what a steam table is telling, why it has value to limited people, and why it has nothing whatsoever to do with either sublimation or evaporation. "What is steam table in thermodynamics? In addition to pressure and temperature, these tables usually include other related values such as specific enthalpy (h) and specific volume (v). The data found in a saturated steam table always refers to steam at a particular saturation point, also known as the boiling point." Let's repeat a particular sentence, Jim... "The data found in a saturated steam table always refers to steam at a particular saturation point, also known as the boiling point." STEAM, Jim, STEAM... not other forms of gaseous water vapor, like evaporate or sublimate, but boiling water only, STEAM!. What is so hard to understand about this?
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-27 18:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5110b8fc-348b-4f88-be47-23aaabcf07a8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #642996 |
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 6:20:37 PM UTC-7, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 5:35:22 PM UTC-7, James McGinn wrote: > > On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 4:57:46 PM UTC-7, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > Have you finally acquired the metacognitive skills necessary to be able to realize that you have performed poorly yet, Jim? I can assure you, without a doubt, that you have and are performing poorly, almost as though you don't know the first thing about physics... which you don't. > > > > Uh, I think I know how to read a steam table chart. > > > > How about you? > > No, Jim, you do NOT know what a steam table is telling, why it has value to limited people, and why it has nothing whatsoever to do with either sublimation or evaporation. So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? > "What is steam table in thermodynamics? > In addition to pressure and temperature, these tables usually include other related values such as specific enthalpy (h) and specific volume (v). The data found in a saturated steam table always refers to steam at a particular saturation point, also known as the boiling point." So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? > > Let's repeat a particular sentence, Jim... > > "The data found in a saturated steam table always refers to steam at a particular saturation point, also known as the boiling point." So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? > > STEAM, Jim, STEAM... not other forms of gaseous water vapor, like evaporate or sublimate, but boiling water only, STEAM!. > > What is so hard to understand about this? So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? Anybody want to bet that none of these trolls will respond to this question? Jame McGinn / Solving Tornadoes
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-28 01:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ole5i1$me0$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #643000 |
James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 6:20:37 PM UTC-7, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 5:35:22 PM UTC-7, James McGinn wrote: >>> On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 4:57:46 PM UTC-7, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>>> Have you finally acquired the metacognitive skills necessary to be >>>> able to realize that you have performed poorly yet, Jim? I can assure >>>> you, without a doubt, that you have and are performing poorly, almost >>>> as though you don't know the first thing about physics... which you don't. >>> >>> Uh, I think I know how to read a steam table chart. >>> >>> How about you? >> >> No, Jim, you do NOT know what a steam table is telling, why it has value >> to limited people, and why it has nothing whatsoever to do with either >> sublimation or evaporation. > > So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? A mixture of liquid and gas, Jim. That is what vapor pressure means. ANY substance, water no exception, is a mix of liquid and gas between melting point and boiling point. I have no idea why you don't know this. > >> "What is steam table in thermodynamics? >> In addition to pressure and temperature, these tables usually include >> other related values such as specific enthalpy (h) and specific volume >> (v). The data found in a saturated steam table always refers to steam at >> a particular saturation point, also known as the boiling point." > > So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? > > >> >> Let's repeat a particular sentence, Jim... >> >> "The data found in a saturated steam table always refers to steam at a >> particular saturation point, also known as the boiling point." > > So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? > > >> >> STEAM, Jim, STEAM... not other forms of gaseous water vapor, like >> evaporate or sublimate, but boiling water only, STEAM!. >> >> What is so hard to understand about this? > > So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? > > Anybody want to bet that none of these trolls will respond to this question? > > Jame McGinn / Solving Tornadoes > > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-27 19:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <07f3c1f6-cec5-4fce-b55e-2854bc03a9dd@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #643007 |
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 6:55:21 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: > > So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? > > A mixture of liquid and gas, Jim. Really? Every phase diagram I can find indicates liquid only. Can you provide a link that indicates both liquid and gas?
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-28 02:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ole957$qv8$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #643014 |
James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 6:55:21 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: > >>> So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? >> >> A mixture of liquid and gas, Jim. > > Really? Every phase diagram I can find indicates liquid only. Can you > provide a link that indicates both liquid and gas? > > You don't know how to read a phase diagram. Pity, really. Could have educated yourself. http://ch302.cm.utexas.edu/worksheets/old%20versions/Phase-Diagrams-Phase-Transitions-and-Vapor-Pressure-KEY1.pdf -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-28 10:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2598e163-f806-4313-8f06-22d17c0050ff@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #643020 |
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 7:56:45 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: > James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 6:55:21 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: > > > >>> So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? > >> > >> A mixture of liquid and gas, Jim. > > > > Really? Every phase diagram I can find indicates liquid only. Can you > > provide a link that indicates both liquid and gas? > > > > > > You don't know how to read a phase diagram. > Pity, really. > > Could have educated yourself. > > http://ch302.cm.utexas.edu/worksheets/old%20versions/Phase-Diagrams-Phase-Transitions-and-Vapor-Pressure-KEY1.pdf > > -- > Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables There is no such thing as a mixture of gas and liquid with water. It literally does not exist. You are just an imaginative loon.
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| From | Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-28 12:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ed5e6424-1381-477a-aa93-51ca55614b4e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #643129 |
On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 10:07:31 AM UTC-7, James McGinn wrote: > On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 7:56:45 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: > > James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 6:55:21 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: > > > > > >>> So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? > > >> > > >> A mixture of liquid and gas, Jim. > > > > > > Really? Every phase diagram I can find indicates liquid only. Can you > > > provide a link that indicates both liquid and gas? > > > > > > > > > > You don't know how to read a phase diagram. > > Pity, really. > > > > Could have educated yourself. > > > > http://ch302.cm.utexas.edu/worksheets/old%20versions/Phase-Diagrams-Phase-Transitions-and-Vapor-Pressure-KEY1.pdf > > > > -- > > Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables > > There is no such thing as a mixture of gas and liquid with water. It literally does not exist. You are just an imaginative loon. Right. What McGin meant to say here is that there is no such thing as a mixture of gaseous H2O and liquid water. Bodkin is a chlld and you have to spell it all out for the troll or he gets confused. Any ambiguity in how you state something just opens the door to troll logic. Trolls are intellectual scum.
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| From | Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-28 20:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <213e13f6-514d-42c3-a92f-a80b00922c49@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #643129 |
On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 10:07:31 AM UTC-7, James McGinn wrote: > On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 7:56:45 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: > > James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 6:55:21 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: > > > > > >>> So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? > > >> > > >> A mixture of liquid and gas, Jim. > > > > > > Really? Every phase diagram I can find indicates liquid only. Can you > > > provide a link that indicates both liquid and gas? > > > > > > > > > > You don't know how to read a phase diagram. > > Pity, really. > > > > Could have educated yourself. > > > > http://ch302.cm.utexas.edu/worksheets/old%20versions/Phase-Diagrams-Phase-Transitions-and-Vapor-Pressure-KEY1.pdf > > > > -- > > Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables > > There is no such thing as a mixture of gas and liquid with water. It literally does not exist. You are just an imaginative loon. Yep.
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| From | Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-02 13:44 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8a9faeaa-b63c-410b-b1a9-3559db4f22f3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #643020 |
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 7:56:45 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: > James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 6:55:21 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: > > > >>> So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? > >> > >> A mixture of liquid and gas, Jim. > > > > Really? Every phase diagram I can find indicates liquid only. Can you > > provide a link that indicates both liquid and gas? > > > > > > You don't know how to read a phase diagram. > Pity, really. > > Could have educated yourself. Do your methods in any way involve pixie dust? Tea leaves? Crystal balls? LSD?
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| From | Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-27 20:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a27cfde0-7688-4214-928f-29324d35a3d5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #643007 |
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 6:55:21 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: > > So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? > > A mixture of liquid and gas, Jim. That is what vapor pressure means. As a physicist I have to inform you that you are mistaken. Vapor pressure refers to the pressure of a mixture of air and suspended microdroplets of LIQUID H2O. There is no (zero, nada, nill) gaseous H2O in vapor. All of the H2O in vapor is aerosol (suspended microdroplets)--not gas. I agree that in normal parlance it is customary to conflate the concepts of vapor and gas. But that is because normal parlance is based on fundamental assumptions that we assume from childhood and from other non-scientific cultural sources. In other words, the notion that gas and vapor are universally interchangeable and unambiguously definitive is an urban legend. It is not science. And, frankly, it is not reality. I agree that many scientific disciplines (meteorology for example) fail or even stubbornly refuse to make a distinction between H2O vapor and H2O gas. The reasons for this are historical and political, not empirical. > ANY substance, water no exception, is a mix of liquid and gas between > melting point and boiling point. This is not even remotely possible. You might as well be telling us the sun circles the earth. > I have no idea why you don't know this. I know exactly why you believe H2O vapor (aerosol) is gas. As I described, the reasons are cultural, not empirical. At one time I believed as you do. Everybody originally believes as you do. At one time everybody believed the sun circled the earth. Even now we hear people talk about the sun rising. Five hundred years ago to scientists explained that it was the earth that circled the sun. Then what happened? Then what happened was nothing--for hundreds of years. Think about that. For hundreds of years we had conclusive evidence that the earth circled the sun AND EVERYBODY IGNORED IT. > > > > >> "What is steam table in thermodynamics? > >> In addition to pressure and temperature, these tables usually include > >> other related values such as specific enthalpy (h) and specific volume > >> (v). The data found in a saturated steam table always refers to steam at > >> a particular saturation point, also known as the boiling point." > > > > So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? > > > > > >> > >> Let's repeat a particular sentence, Jim... > >> > >> "The data found in a saturated steam table always refers to steam at a > >> particular saturation point, also known as the boiling point." > > > > So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? > > > > > >> > >> STEAM, Jim, STEAM... not other forms of gaseous water vapor, like > >> evaporate or sublimate, but boiling water only, STEAM!. > >> > >> What is so hard to understand about this? > > > > So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? > > > > Anybody want to bet that none of these trolls will respond to this question? > > > > Jame McGinn / Solving Tornadoes > > > > > > > > -- > Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-31 11:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oln4v4$hnn$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #643024 |
Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 6:55:21 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: > >>> So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? >> >> A mixture of liquid and gas, Jim. That is what vapor pressure means. > > As a physicist Gutless liar. > I have to inform you that you are mistaken. Vapor pressure refers to the > pressure of a mixture of air and suspended microdroplets of LIQUID H2O. > There is no (zero, nada, nill) gaseous H2O in vapor. All of the H2O in > vapor is aerosol (suspended microdroplets)--not gas. > > I agree that in normal parlance it is customary to conflate the concepts > of vapor and gas. But that is because normal parlance is based on > fundamental assumptions that we assume from childhood and from other > non-scientific cultural sources. > > In other words, the notion that gas and vapor are universally > interchangeable and unambiguously definitive is an urban legend. It is > not science. And, frankly, it is not reality. > > I agree that many scientific disciplines (meteorology for example) fail > or even stubbornly refuse to make a distinction between H2O vapor and H2O > gas. The reasons for this are historical and political, not empirical. > >> ANY substance, water no exception, is a mix of liquid and gas between >> melting point and boiling point. > > This is not even remotely possible. You might as well be telling us the > sun circles the earth. Well, there you go. Ineducable, gutless liar. > >> I have no idea why you don't know this. > > I know exactly why you believe H2O vapor (aerosol) is gas. As I > described, the reasons are cultural, not empirical. > > At one time I believed as you do. Everybody originally believes as you do. > > At one time everybody believed the sun circled the earth. Even now we > hear people talk about the sun rising. Five hundred years ago to > scientists explained that it was the earth that circled the sun. Then what happened? > > Then what happened was nothing--for hundreds of years. Think about that. > For hundreds of years we had conclusive evidence that the earth circled > the sun AND EVERYBODY IGNORED IT. > > > > > > > >> >>> >>>> "What is steam table in thermodynamics? >>>> In addition to pressure and temperature, these tables usually include >>>> other related values such as specific enthalpy (h) and specific volume >>>> (v). The data found in a saturated steam table always refers to steam at >>>> a particular saturation point, also known as the boiling point." >>> >>> So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Let's repeat a particular sentence, Jim... >>>> >>>> "The data found in a saturated steam table always refers to steam at a >>>> particular saturation point, also known as the boiling point." >>> >>> So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? >>> >>> >>>> >>>> STEAM, Jim, STEAM... not other forms of gaseous water vapor, like >>>> evaporate or sublimate, but boiling water only, STEAM!. >>>> >>>> What is so hard to understand about this? >>> >>> So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? >>> >>> Anybody want to bet that none of these trolls will respond to this question? >>> >>> Jame McGinn / Solving Tornadoes >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables > > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-28 12:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <33152bfa-1007-4966-8dfc-f659488dbfee@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #643007 |
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 6:55:21 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: > > So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? > > A mixture of liquid and gas, Jim. That is what vapor pressure means. Apples and oranges, you confused fuckwit. Air mixed with LIQUID water is generally referred to as vapor. But a more accurate designation is 'humid air.' And yes it does have pressure. Moreover, the pressure (generally called vapor pressure) is higher as a direct consequence of the fact that it has suspended microdroplets of LIQUID (not gaseous) water. All of the gas that is in vapor (humid air) IS IN THE FUCKING LIQUID PHASE OF H2O, you fucking nitwit. Precisely zero percentage of the gas in humid air is gaseous H2O. Zero, nada, zilch. THERE IS NO GASEOUS H2O IN HUMID AIR, YOU FUCKING DIMWITTED TROLLS. Learn to read a fucking diagram you fucking mental retards. > ANY substance, water no exception, is a mix of liquid and gas between > melting point and boiling point. > I have no idea why you don't know this. You are a hopelessly stupid troll. God I fucking hate stupid, smelly, slimey, ignorant science trolls.
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| From | Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-30 10:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <62f5630a-f989-4484-910b-06e86d599a31@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #643007 |
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 6:55:21 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: > >>> Uh, I think I know how to read a steam table chart. > >>> > >>> How about you? > >> > >> No, Jim, you do NOT know what a steam table > > > > So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? > > A mixture of liquid and gas, Jim. Liquid only. If there is any mixture it's has to do with your brain cells. > >> Let's repeat a particular sentence, Jim... > >> > >> "The data found in a saturated steam table always refers to steam at a > >> particular saturation point, also known as the boiling point." > > > > So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? This time the troll simply didn't answer. The best you can do with a troll is to get them to shut up. > > > > > >> > >> STEAM, Jim, STEAM... not other forms of gaseous water vapor, like > >> evaporate or sublimate, but boiling water only, STEAM!. > >> > >> What is so hard to understand about this? > > > > So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? > > > > Anybody want to bet that none of these trolls will respond to this question? Nope.
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| From | Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-02 15:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4f03b73f-73f2-437b-aa6e-756b1c3d2a3c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #643409 |
On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 10:23:58 AM UTC-7, Claudius Denk wrote: > On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 6:55:21 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: > > > >>> Uh, I think I know how to read a steam table chart. > > >>> > > >>> How about you? > > >> > > >> No, Jim, you do NOT know what a steam table > > > > > > So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? > > > > A mixture of liquid and gas, Jim. > > Liquid only. If there is any mixture it's has to do with your brain cells. > > > >> Let's repeat a particular sentence, Jim... > > >> > > >> "The data found in a saturated steam table always refers to steam at a > > >> particular saturation point, also known as the boiling point." > > > > > > So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? > > This time the troll simply didn't answer. > > The best you can do with a troll is to get them to shut up. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> STEAM, Jim, STEAM... not other forms of gaseous water vapor, like > > >> evaporate or sublimate, but boiling water only, STEAM!. > > >> > > >> What is so hard to understand about this? > > > > > > So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? > > > > > > Anybody want to bet that none of these trolls will respond to this question? > > Nope. Me too. My phase diagram indicates liquid.
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-30 12:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10005aa8-f0b1-4d5a-9de6-7a3fa30890fe@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #643007 |
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 6:55:21 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: > > So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? > > A mixture of liquid and gas, Jim. No, retard, it is liquid. Fucking read the phase diagram you mental retard. > That is what vapor pressure means. > ANY substance, water no exception, is a mix of liquid and gas between > melting point and boiling point. No, dumbass. Vapor pressure involves a mixture of vapor (suspended, liquid, microdroplets) and air. IOW, vapor pressure involves vapor. That is why they call in vapor pressure and not steam pressure!!! What the fuck is wrong with you people? > I have no idea why you don't know this. Get an education then you will 'not know' it either. LOL.
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| From | Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-31 20:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3989cd38-073d-480a-8d86-255622ee0d65@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #643007 |
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 6:55:21 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: > James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 6:20:37 PM UTC-7, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 5:35:22 PM UTC-7, James McGinn wrote: > >>> On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 4:57:46 PM UTC-7, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: > >> > >>>> Have you finally acquired the metacognitive skills necessary to be > >>>> able to realize that you have performed poorly yet, Jim? I can assure > >>>> you, without a doubt, that you have and are performing poorly, almost > >>>> as though you don't know the first thing about physics... which you don't. > >>> > >>> Uh, I think I know how to read a steam table chart. > >>> > >>> How about you? > >> > >> No, Jim, you do NOT know what a steam table is telling, why it has value > >> to limited people, and why it has nothing whatsoever to do with either > >> sublimation or evaporation. > > > > So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? > > A mixture of liquid and gas, Jim. That is what vapor pressure means. > ANY substance, water no exception, is a mix of liquid and gas between > melting point and boiling point. > I have no idea why you don't know this. > > > > >> "What is steam table in thermodynamics? > >> In addition to pressure and temperature, these tables usually include > >> other related values such as specific enthalpy (h) and specific volume > >> (v). The data found in a saturated steam table always refers to steam at > >> a particular saturation point, also known as the boiling point." > > > > So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? > > > > > >> > >> Let's repeat a particular sentence, Jim... > >> > >> "The data found in a saturated steam table always refers to steam at a > >> particular saturation point, also known as the boiling point." > > > > So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? > > > > > >> > >> STEAM, Jim, STEAM... not other forms of gaseous water vapor, like > >> evaporate or sublimate, but boiling water only, STEAM!. > >> > >> What is so hard to understand about this? > > > > So, uh, what phase is water in at temperatures between 0 and 100 C at 1 ATM? > > > > Anybody want to bet that none of these trolls will respond to this question? > > > > Jame McGinn / Solving Tornadoes You can't even read a simple phase diagram, you dishonest troll.
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