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  Hey Chimp, Look at this! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-12-30 17:49 -0500
    Re: Hey Chimp, Look at this! jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-12-31 00:24 +0000
      Re: Hey Chimp, Look at this! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-12-30 20:53 -0500
        Re: Hey Chimp, Look at this! jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-12-31 02:40 +0000
          Re: Hey Chimp, Look at this! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-12-31 17:44 -0500
            Re: Hey Chimp, Look at this! jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-12-31 23:04 +0000
        Re: Hey Chimp, Look at this! jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-12-31 06:23 +0000
          Re: Hey Chimp, Look at this! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-12-31 17:49 -0500
            Re: Hey Chimp, Look at this! jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-12-31 23:08 +0000
        Re: Hey Chimp, Look at this! Yuri Kretin <invlaid@invalid.com> - 2017-01-01 10:09 -0600
    Re: Hey Chimp, Look at this! Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> - 2017-01-06 05:33 -0500

#610936 — Hey Chimp, Look at this!

"200 high-ranking officials from the Chinese Space Program have signed a 
petition asking explanations from the American government and the 
release of classified NASA information concerning the American moon 
landings that would prove to the World that the moon landings were not 
an elaborately orchestrated hoax to fool the World about America’s space 
program capabilities."

"Chinese Lunar Rover Finds No Evidence of American Moon Landings!"

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/chinese-lunar-rover-finds-no-evidence-of-american-moon-landings/

So much for your kooky "signals from the moon" nutjob theories.
Bet you got that one from Trebert.

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#610955

benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> "200 high-ranking officials from the Chinese Space Program have signed a 
> petition asking explanations from the American government and the 
> release of classified NASA information concerning the American moon 
> landings that would prove to the World that the moon landings were not 
> an elaborately orchestrated hoax to fool the World about America’s space 
> program capabilities."
> 
> "Chinese Lunar Rover Finds No Evidence of American Moon Landings!"
> 
> http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/chinese-lunar-rover-finds-no-evidence-of-american-moon-landings/
> 
> So much for your kooky "signals from the moon" nutjob theories.
> Bet you got that one from Trebert.

Nope, here is a non-government reference kook.

http://www.arrl.org/eavesdropping-on-apollo-11

Larry Baysinger was but one of many individuals who monitored the
Apollo missions kook.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#610969

On 12/30/2016 7:24 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>> "200 high-ranking officials from the Chinese Space Program have signed a
>> petition asking explanations from the American government and the
>> release of classified NASA information concerning the American moon
>> landings that would prove to the World that the moon landings were not
>> an elaborately orchestrated hoax to fool the World about America’s space
>> program capabilities."
>>
>> "Chinese Lunar Rover Finds No Evidence of American Moon Landings!"
>>
>> http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/chinese-lunar-rover-finds-no-evidence-of-american-moon-landings/
>>
>> So much for your kooky "signals from the moon" nutjob theories.
>> Bet you got that one from Trebert.
>
> Nope, here is a non-government reference kook.
>
> http://www.arrl.org/eavesdropping-on-apollo-11
>
> Larry Baysinger was but one of many individuals who monitored the
> Apollo missions kook.

IF you are going to do science, Chimp, one starts by being honest and 
not lying about facts. You lie through your teeth when the proof of it 
is right in the article you reference!

QST is searching for other listeners but have found none.

"An unanswered question in this story is whether there were other lunar 
eavesdropping projects conducted by Amateur Radio operators. "

So don't you think it is very interesting that this guy managed to hear 
the Apollo conversations on government frequencies on some homebrew 
(That's ham talk, chimp) Kluge when the rest of those space 
communications to distant places all needed gigantic high gain dishes to 
even begin to hear any signals. So just how did he know that what he 
picked up was coming from the moon? Did he use his superpowers like you 
do? How did he know it wasn't fake or a hoax. It wasn't even repeatable 
as he never did it again.

I think this is in the same class as Yoko Ono once having sex with Hillary.

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#610979

benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 12/30/2016 7:24 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>> "200 high-ranking officials from the Chinese Space Program have signed a
>>> petition asking explanations from the American government and the
>>> release of classified NASA information concerning the American moon
>>> landings that would prove to the World that the moon landings were not
>>> an elaborately orchestrated hoax to fool the World about America’s space
>>> program capabilities."
>>>
>>> "Chinese Lunar Rover Finds No Evidence of American Moon Landings!"
>>>
>>> http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/chinese-lunar-rover-finds-no-evidence-of-american-moon-landings/
>>>
>>> So much for your kooky "signals from the moon" nutjob theories.
>>> Bet you got that one from Trebert.
>>
>> Nope, here is a non-government reference kook.
>>
>> http://www.arrl.org/eavesdropping-on-apollo-11
>>
>> Larry Baysinger was but one of many individuals who monitored the
>> Apollo missions kook.
> 
> IF you are going to do science, Chimp, one starts by being honest and 
> not lying about facts. You lie through your teeth when the proof of it 
> is right in the article you reference!
> 
> QST is searching for other listeners but have found none.
> 
> "An unanswered question in this story is whether there were other lunar 
> eavesdropping projects conducted by Amateur Radio operators. "

Didn't notice it is an old story or bother to read the footnotes, did
you kook?

> So don't you think it is very interesting that this guy managed to hear 
> the Apollo conversations on government frequencies on some homebrew 
> (That's ham talk, chimp) Kluge when the rest of those space 
> communications to distant places all needed gigantic high gain dishes to 
> even begin to hear any signals. So just how did he know that what he 
> picked up was coming from the moon? Did he use his superpowers like you 
> do? How did he know it wasn't fake or a hoax. It wasn't even repeatable 
> as he never did it again.

He wasn't the only one, just one of very few Hams that did it.

There is nothing special about "government frequencies".

The antenna needed to hear a transmitter on the Moon is a lot smaller
than the antenna needed to hear echos from the Earth to the Moon and
back to the Earth and Hams are doing that on a daily basis.

While the required antenna is not "gigantic" it is highly directional
and would only work when pointed directly at the Moon.

Your constant babble about "superpowers" is kook babble.

Numerous other people around the world did it with several of the Apollo
missions, so the event is repeatable. 

Here's a group of individuals that monitored both the VHF and S band
comms of Apollo 17 kook:

http://www.svengrahn.pp.se/trackind/Apollo17/APOLLO17.htm


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#611102

On 12/30/2016 9:40 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>> On 12/30/2016 7:24 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>> "200 high-ranking officials from the Chinese Space Program have signed a
>>>> petition asking explanations from the American government and the
>>>> release of classified NASA information concerning the American moon
>>>> landings that would prove to the World that the moon landings were not
>>>> an elaborately orchestrated hoax to fool the World about America’s space
>>>> program capabilities."
>>>>
>>>> "Chinese Lunar Rover Finds No Evidence of American Moon Landings!"
>>>>
>>>> http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/chinese-lunar-rover-finds-no-evidence-of-american-moon-landings/
>>>>
>>>> So much for your kooky "signals from the moon" nutjob theories.
>>>> Bet you got that one from Trebert.
>>>
>>> Nope, here is a non-government reference kook.
>>>
>>> http://www.arrl.org/eavesdropping-on-apollo-11
>>>
>>> Larry Baysinger was but one of many individuals who monitored the
>>> Apollo missions kook.
>>
>> IF you are going to do science, Chimp, one starts by being honest and
>> not lying about facts. You lie through your teeth when the proof of it
>> is right in the article you reference!
>>
>> QST is searching for other listeners but have found none.
>>
>> "An unanswered question in this story is whether there were other lunar
>> eavesdropping projects conducted by Amateur Radio operators. "
>
> Didn't notice it is an old story or bother to read the footnotes, did
> you kook?
>
>> So don't you think it is very interesting that this guy managed to hear
>> the Apollo conversations on government frequencies on some homebrew
>> (That's ham talk, chimp) Kluge when the rest of those space
>> communications to distant places all needed gigantic high gain dishes to
>> even begin to hear any signals. So just how did he know that what he
>> picked up was coming from the moon? Did he use his superpowers like you
>> do? How did he know it wasn't fake or a hoax. It wasn't even repeatable
>> as he never did it again.
>
> He wasn't the only one, just one of very few Hams that did it.

Sure, so many that QST couldn't find any!

> There is nothing special about "government frequencies".

Idiot.

> The antenna needed to hear a transmitter on the Moon is a lot smaller
> than the antenna needed to hear echos from the Earth to the Moon and
> back to the Earth and Hams are doing that on a daily basis.

They don't do it at S band.

> While the required antenna is not "gigantic" it is highly directional
> and would only work when pointed directly at the Moon.

Directional means high gain which means gigantic, drooler.

> Your constant babble about "superpowers" is kook babble.

So how do you know these things then? Magic? Obviously not from science.

> Numerous other people around the world did it with several of the Apollo
> missions, so the event is repeatable.

Article says nobody bothered with other missions.

> Here's a group of individuals that monitored both the VHF and S band
> comms of Apollo 17 kook:
>
> http://www.svengrahn.pp.se/trackind/Apollo17/APOLLO17.htm

Note that VHF signals were NOT from the moon but from orbit. Big honking 
deal. Also note the 9meter dish used to get signals from the moon was 
hardly ham gear! It was radio astronomy gear. Sure you can trust 
astronomers to tell the truth. They say they've never even seen UFOs!

You still have no proof signals they picked up were from the moon and 
not also fake! You got nuttin.

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#611127

benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 12/30/2016 9:40 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>> On 12/30/2016 7:24 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>>> "200 high-ranking officials from the Chinese Space Program have signed a
>>>>> petition asking explanations from the American government and the
>>>>> release of classified NASA information concerning the American moon
>>>>> landings that would prove to the World that the moon landings were not
>>>>> an elaborately orchestrated hoax to fool the World about America’s space
>>>>> program capabilities."
>>>>>
>>>>> "Chinese Lunar Rover Finds No Evidence of American Moon Landings!"
>>>>>
>>>>> http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/chinese-lunar-rover-finds-no-evidence-of-american-moon-landings/
>>>>>
>>>>> So much for your kooky "signals from the moon" nutjob theories.
>>>>> Bet you got that one from Trebert.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, here is a non-government reference kook.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.arrl.org/eavesdropping-on-apollo-11
>>>>
>>>> Larry Baysinger was but one of many individuals who monitored the
>>>> Apollo missions kook.
>>>
>>> IF you are going to do science, Chimp, one starts by being honest and
>>> not lying about facts. You lie through your teeth when the proof of it
>>> is right in the article you reference!
>>>
>>> QST is searching for other listeners but have found none.
>>>
>>> "An unanswered question in this story is whether there were other lunar
>>> eavesdropping projects conducted by Amateur Radio operators. "
>>
>> Didn't notice it is an old story or bother to read the footnotes, did
>> you kook?
>>
>>> So don't you think it is very interesting that this guy managed to hear
>>> the Apollo conversations on government frequencies on some homebrew
>>> (That's ham talk, chimp) Kluge when the rest of those space
>>> communications to distant places all needed gigantic high gain dishes to
>>> even begin to hear any signals. So just how did he know that what he
>>> picked up was coming from the moon? Did he use his superpowers like you
>>> do? How did he know it wasn't fake or a hoax. It wasn't even repeatable
>>> as he never did it again.
>>
>> He wasn't the only one, just one of very few Hams that did it.
> 
> Sure, so many that QST couldn't find any!

Didn't read the foot notes, did you kook.

>> There is nothing special about "government frequencies".
> 
> Idiot.

Moron.

All the frequencies for the Apollo missions were published in CQ magazine
with the intent of getting hams to try to monitor the missions kook.

>> The antenna needed to hear a transmitter on the Moon is a lot smaller
>> than the antenna needed to hear echos from the Earth to the Moon and
>> back to the Earth and Hams are doing that on a daily basis.
> 
> They don't do it at S band.

They don't do what at S band kook.

The statemant I made is frequency independant kook.

>> While the required antenna is not "gigantic" it is highly directional
>> and would only work when pointed directly at the Moon.
> 
> Directional means high gain which means gigantic, drooler.

I guess something on the order of 10 feet must be gigantic to you kook.

>> Your constant babble about "superpowers" is kook babble.
> 
> So how do you know these things then? Magic? Obviously not from science.

Know what things kook?

>> Numerous other people around the world did it with several of the Apollo
>> missions, so the event is repeatable.
> 
> Article says nobody bothered with other missions.

No, it does not, and in fact in the foot notes references Apollo 17.

>> Here's a group of individuals that monitored both the VHF and S band
>> comms of Apollo 17 kook:
>>
>> http://www.svengrahn.pp.se/trackind/Apollo17/APOLLO17.htm
> 
> Note that VHF signals were NOT from the moon but from orbit. Big honking 
> deal. Also note the 9meter dish used to get signals from the moon was 
> hardly ham gear! It was radio astronomy gear. Sure you can trust 
> astronomers to tell the truth. They say they've never even seen UFOs!

Here's a link to a list of about 100 hams that do Moon bounce communications
on a regular basis kook.

http://www.nitehawk.com/rasmit/ws1_1.html

> You still have no proof signals they picked up were from the moon and 
> not also fake! You got nuttin.

You did not bother to read the whole article and the footnotes kook.

It is impossible to fake signals from the Moon over the entire Earth.

Here's some more for you:

http://legacy.jefferson.kctcs.edu/observatory/apollo11/
http://www.svengrahn.pp.se/trackind/Apollo17/APOLLO17.htm


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#611003

benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 12/30/2016 7:24 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>> "200 high-ranking officials from the Chinese Space Program have signed a
>>> petition asking explanations from the American government and the
>>> release of classified NASA information concerning the American moon
>>> landings that would prove to the World that the moon landings were not
>>> an elaborately orchestrated hoax to fool the World about America’s space
>>> program capabilities."
>>>
>>> "Chinese Lunar Rover Finds No Evidence of American Moon Landings!"
>>>
>>> http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/chinese-lunar-rover-finds-no-evidence-of-american-moon-landings/
>>>
>>> So much for your kooky "signals from the moon" nutjob theories.
>>> Bet you got that one from Trebert.
>>
>> Nope, here is a non-government reference kook.
>>
>> http://www.arrl.org/eavesdropping-on-apollo-11
>>
>> Larry Baysinger was but one of many individuals who monitored the
>> Apollo missions kook.
> 
> IF you are going to do science, Chimp, one starts by being honest and 
> not lying about facts. You lie through your teeth when the proof of it 
> is right in the article you reference!
> 
> QST is searching for other listeners but have found none.
> 
> "An unanswered question in this story is whether there were other lunar 
> eavesdropping projects conducted by Amateur Radio operators. "
> 
> So don't you think it is very interesting that this guy managed to hear 
> the Apollo conversations on government frequencies on some homebrew 
> (That's ham talk, chimp) Kluge when the rest of those space 
> communications to distant places all needed gigantic high gain dishes to 
> even begin to hear any signals. So just how did he know that what he 
> picked up was coming from the moon? Did he use his superpowers like you 
> do? How did he know it wasn't fake or a hoax. It wasn't even repeatable 
> as he never did it again.
> 
> I think this is in the same class as Yoko Ono once having sex with Hillary.

BTW, if individual hobbyists could monitor Apollo comms, how difficult
would it be for a government, such as the USSR or the PRC, to monitor
the whole thing and denounce it as a fake it were so kook?


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#611107

On 12/31/2016 1:23 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>> On 12/30/2016 7:24 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>> "200 high-ranking officials from the Chinese Space Program have signed a
>>>> petition asking explanations from the American government and the
>>>> release of classified NASA information concerning the American moon
>>>> landings that would prove to the World that the moon landings were not
>>>> an elaborately orchestrated hoax to fool the World about America’s space
>>>> program capabilities."
>>>>
>>>> "Chinese Lunar Rover Finds No Evidence of American Moon Landings!"
>>>>
>>>> http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/chinese-lunar-rover-finds-no-evidence-of-american-moon-landings/
>>>>
>>>> So much for your kooky "signals from the moon" nutjob theories.
>>>> Bet you got that one from Trebert.
>>>
>>> Nope, here is a non-government reference kook.
>>>
>>> http://www.arrl.org/eavesdropping-on-apollo-11
>>>
>>> Larry Baysinger was but one of many individuals who monitored the
>>> Apollo missions kook.
>>
>> IF you are going to do science, Chimp, one starts by being honest and
>> not lying about facts. You lie through your teeth when the proof of it
>> is right in the article you reference!
>>
>> QST is searching for other listeners but have found none.
>>
>> "An unanswered question in this story is whether there were other lunar
>> eavesdropping projects conducted by Amateur Radio operators. "
>>
>> So don't you think it is very interesting that this guy managed to hear
>> the Apollo conversations on government frequencies on some homebrew
>> (That's ham talk, chimp) Kluge when the rest of those space
>> communications to distant places all needed gigantic high gain dishes to
>> even begin to hear any signals. So just how did he know that what he
>> picked up was coming from the moon? Did he use his superpowers like you
>> do? How did he know it wasn't fake or a hoax. It wasn't even repeatable
>> as he never did it again.
>>
>> I think this is in the same class as Yoko Ono once having sex with Hillary.
>
> BTW, if individual hobbyists could monitor Apollo comms, how difficult
> would it be for a government, such as the USSR or the PRC, to monitor
> the whole thing and denounce it as a fake it were so kook?
>
>
You mean how important would it be to make sure "moon signals" were 
faked and easy enough to pick up that other countries would do so and be 
fooled by the hoax? Remember the Hoax wasn't about fooling AMERICANS but 
fooling the USSR!

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#611128

benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 12/31/2016 1:23 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>> On 12/30/2016 7:24 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>>> "200 high-ranking officials from the Chinese Space Program have signed a
>>>>> petition asking explanations from the American government and the
>>>>> release of classified NASA information concerning the American moon
>>>>> landings that would prove to the World that the moon landings were not
>>>>> an elaborately orchestrated hoax to fool the World about America’s space
>>>>> program capabilities."
>>>>>
>>>>> "Chinese Lunar Rover Finds No Evidence of American Moon Landings!"
>>>>>
>>>>> http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/chinese-lunar-rover-finds-no-evidence-of-american-moon-landings/
>>>>>
>>>>> So much for your kooky "signals from the moon" nutjob theories.
>>>>> Bet you got that one from Trebert.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, here is a non-government reference kook.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.arrl.org/eavesdropping-on-apollo-11
>>>>
>>>> Larry Baysinger was but one of many individuals who monitored the
>>>> Apollo missions kook.
>>>
>>> IF you are going to do science, Chimp, one starts by being honest and
>>> not lying about facts. You lie through your teeth when the proof of it
>>> is right in the article you reference!
>>>
>>> QST is searching for other listeners but have found none.
>>>
>>> "An unanswered question in this story is whether there were other lunar
>>> eavesdropping projects conducted by Amateur Radio operators. "
>>>
>>> So don't you think it is very interesting that this guy managed to hear
>>> the Apollo conversations on government frequencies on some homebrew
>>> (That's ham talk, chimp) Kluge when the rest of those space
>>> communications to distant places all needed gigantic high gain dishes to
>>> even begin to hear any signals. So just how did he know that what he
>>> picked up was coming from the moon? Did he use his superpowers like you
>>> do? How did he know it wasn't fake or a hoax. It wasn't even repeatable
>>> as he never did it again.
>>>
>>> I think this is in the same class as Yoko Ono once having sex with Hillary.
>>
>> BTW, if individual hobbyists could monitor Apollo comms, how difficult
>> would it be for a government, such as the USSR or the PRC, to monitor
>> the whole thing and denounce it as a fake it were so kook?
>>
>>
> You mean how important would it be to make sure "moon signals" were 
> faked and easy enough to pick up that other countries would do so and be 
> fooled by the hoax? Remember the Hoax wasn't about fooling AMERICANS but 
> fooling the USSR!

And the kook forgets that it took very directional antennas to receive
the signals from the Moon and that they only received signals when the
antennas pointed at the Moon.

It is impossible to fake the postion of the Moon.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#611204

On 12/30/2016 7:53 PM, benj wrote:
> On 12/30/2016 7:24 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>> "200 high-ranking officials from the Chinese Space Program have signed a

>
> I think this is in the same class as Yoko Ono once having sex with Hillary.

she did ?   I knew there was a reason Hillary surrounded herself with 
powerful lesbians.

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#611909

In article <5866e498$0$23303$b1db1813$19ace300@news.astraweb.com>
benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>
> "200 high-ranking officials from the Chinese Space Program have signed a
> petition asking explanations from the American government and the
> release of classified NASA information concerning the American moon
> landings that would prove to the World that the moon landings were not
> an elaborately orchestrated hoax to fool the World about America’s space
> program capabilities."
>
> "Chinese Lunar Rover Finds No Evidence of American Moon Landings!"
>
> http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/chinese-lunar-rover-finds-no-evidence-of-american-moon-landings/

That article says nothing about where the Chicom rover landed. It 
may have landed somewhere where no Apollo landing was made.

Are you applying the same skepticism and threshold of proof to the 
Chicom lander as you're brining to the Apollo landings?

> So much for your kooky "signals from the moon" nutjob theories.
> Bet you got that one from Trebert.

That World News Daily Report has all sorts of silly articles on it. 
"Rocket launched in space by Nazis in 1944 expected to hit the USA 
next week," and "Ruins of 19th Century snow fort discovered in 
Northern Canada," and "7-year old girl receives breast implants for 
Christmas," should be give-aways to the nature of the Web site.

If you think that the site is still credible then you should look at it's "About Us" page <http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/disclaimer_/>

Their "Legal Notice" starts out saying, "Information contained in 
this World News Daily Report website is for information and 
entertainment purposes only."

If that's not enough of a clue then they make sure that the readers 
gets the joke by saying, "WNDR assumes however all responsibility 
for the satirical nature of its articles and for the fictional 
nature of their content. All characters appearing in the articles 
in this website – even those based on real people –  are entirely 
fictional and any resemblance between them and any persons, living, 
dead, or undead is purely a miracle."

I'll spell it out, you're citing an article from a fake news Web 
site.

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