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| Started by | Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2017-04-28 08:44 -0700 |
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Re-doing all physics starting off with F=m(a1+a2), not F=ma, 8th ed Atom Totality Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 08:44 -0700
Re-doing all physics starting off with F=m(a1+a2), not F=ma, 8th ed Atom Totality Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 14:57 -0700
Re-doing all physics starting off with F=m(a1+a2), not F=ma, 8th ed Atom Totality Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 02:02 -0700
Re-doing all physics starting off with F=m(a1+a2), not F=ma, 8th ed Atom Totality Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 15:42 -0700
Newton forgot the Product Rule of Calculus Re: Re-doing all physics starting off with F=m(a1+a2), not F=ma, 8th ed Atom Totality Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 22:37 -0700
Newton forgot the Product Rule of Calculus Re: Re-doing all physics starting off with F=m(a1+a2), not F=ma, 8th ed Atom Totality Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 01:01 -0700
Newton forgot the Product Rule of Calculus Re: Re-doing all physics starting off with F=m(a1+a2), not F=ma, 8th ed Atom Totality Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 15:38 -0700
True genesis of the Universe Re: 8th ed Atom Totality Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 18:57 -0700
making all astronomy be the accounting of either Faraday or Ampere laws Re: 8th ed Atom Totality Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 22:30 -0700
ASTRO DATA TABLE Re: making all astronomy be the accounting of either Faraday or Ampere laws Re: 8th ed Atom Totality Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 01:02 -0700
Re: ASTRO 2nd of DATA TABLE Re: making all astronomy be the accounting of either Faraday or Ampere laws Re: 8th ed Atom Totality Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 00:30 -0700
Re: ASTRO 2nd of DATA TABLE Re: making all astronomy be the accounting of either Faraday or Ampere laws Re: 8th ed Atom Totality moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-02 14:28 +0000
SOLAR SYSTEM DATA TABLE Re: 8th ed Atom Totality Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 14:55 -0700
Repeat of experiment-- attract is 14% stronger repel Re: 8th ed Atom Totality Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 20:46 -0700
Re: Repeat of experiment-- attract is 14% stronger repel Re: 8th ed Atom Totality Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 22:59 -0700
Re: Repeat of experiment-- attract is 14% stronger repel Re: 8th ed Atom Totality Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 00:06 -0700
there is no repel force in EM theory, just a deny principle Re: Repeat of experiment-- attract is 14% stronger repel Re: 8th ed Atom Totality Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 00:42 -0700
Re: there is no repel force in EM theory, just a deny principle Re: Repeat of experiment-- attract is 14% stronger repel Re: 8th ed Atom Totality Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 15:57 -0700
Re: there is no repel force in EM theory, just a deny principle Re: Repeat of experiment-- attract is 14% stronger repel Re: 8th ed Atom Totality benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-03 19:46 -0400
Re: there is no repel force in EM theory, just a deny principle Re: Repeat of experiment-- attract is 14% stronger repel Re: 8th ed Atom Totality Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-05-03 22:47 -0500
Re: there is no repel force in EM theory, just a deny principle Re: Repeat of experiment-- attract is 14% stronger repel Re: 8th ed Atom Totality moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-04 14:40 +0000
Re: there is no repel force in EM theory, just a deny principle Re: Repeat of experiment-- attract is 14% stronger repel Re: 8th ed Atom Totality Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 20:14 -0700
Re: there is no repel force in EM theory, just a deny principle Re: Repeat of experiment-- attract is 14% stronger repel Re: 8th ed Atom Totality Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 11:19 -0700
Re: there is no repel force in EM theory, just a deny principle Re: Repeat of experiment-- attract is 14% stronger repel Re: 8th ed Atom Totality Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 23:43 -0700
Re: there is no repel force in EM theory, just a deny principle Re: Repeat of experiment-- attract is 14% stronger repel Re: 8th ed Atom Totality benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 17:20 -0400
Re: Repeat of experiment-- attract is 14% stronger repel Re: 8th ed Atom Totality moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-03 14:29 +0000
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| From | Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-28 08:44 -0700 |
| Subject | Re-doing all physics starting off with F=m(a1+a2), not F=ma, 8th ed Atom Totality |
| Message-ID | <df9de7b3-cca6-4908-897f-cf2bd49d4860@googlegroups.com> |
Hopefully today is a better day. Yesterday i was shaken by my beloved cat put down for virus disease. Reminding me my time is short also. But in this 8th edition i need to see gravity full and clear. A understanding of gravity that no human has ever seen before. Where gravity is the very same thing as electricity and magnetism. And it is not as if there were meagre clues, but to the contrary, it is as if humanity is a stupid species that needs a sledgehammer to realize the obvious. Now, if the planets were solid body rotation about the Sun-- think of that, then Newton in late 1600s would have had to start his Principia, not with F=ma for that would have fallen far short of the truth of reality. Instead Newton would have had to strengthen F to be F=m(a1+a2). You see Newton's F=ma is a force that is the strength of a parabola and far too weak for the Earth to go around the Sun. What Newton needed was a force strong enough to make a full loop around and that force is the math of a ellipse or circle, not a parabola. Newton needed the math of (kAA + jBB) / d^2 What Newton had and also Coulomb had was the mere parabola math of kAA / d^2 The Rings of Saturn as solid body rotation were not known to Newton in the late 1600s, nor the fact that most stars, yes most stars in the Cosmos move in solid body rotation in spiral galaxies. So physics as of 2017 has to start all over again, as if 2017 is the year Newton sat down and wrote F=ma, only now, it is F = m(a1+a2) where forces have enough strength to make a full loop. AP
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| From | Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-28 14:57 -0700 |
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| In reply to | #631076 |
Alright good, i am going to need my astronomy table of the Solar System and its two most important speeds-- speed of orbits and speed in Space. AP
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| From | Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-29 02:02 -0700 |
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| In reply to | #631148 |
Now i need to make a table of facts data of the solar system, a table that is one of the major jobs of the science of astronomy to constantly update and to send missions into space whose prime goal is to fill in gaps of the table. The table being a job master on astronomers and engineers. Long gone are the days we send out probes the collect data willy nilly of unimportant things. AP
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| From | Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-29 15:42 -0700 |
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| In reply to | #631226 |
Now i need to show that if Newton had known the Maxwell Eq. Before writing F=ma That he would have written it F = m(a1 +a2) because that is what force is when you start physics with the Maxwell theory. AP
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| From | Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-29 22:37 -0700 |
| Subject | Newton forgot the Product Rule of Calculus Re: Re-doing all physics starting off with F=m(a1+a2), not F=ma, 8th ed Atom Totality |
| Message-ID | <958aae4e-d355-4ce2-bbde-173ac9eb48f1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #631312 |
On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 5:42:13 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote: > Now i need to show that if Newton had known the Maxwell Eq. Before writing F=ma > > That he would have written it F = m(a1 +a2) because that is what force is when you start physics with the Maxwell theory. > > AP If we look at the Maxwell Equations and theory, the two dynamic laws of Faraday and Ampere, you see, both are a math of differential equations that require a sum on the right side of equation due to the Product Rule of Calculus:: ... to the Faraday law written correctly should be: (f*g)' = f'g + fg' + constant Product Rule of differentiation The way to get three terms on the rightside of equation is the Product Rule and that means just simple differential Calculus, not the stir-crazy manifolds and line integrals and Stokes and other nonsense. Thrusting bar magnet through coil = current + magnetic field (Lenz) + constant for spin. And it must be noted that friction in the World, basically boils down to Lenz magnetic field. Friction, resistance, impedance, action reaction, all boil down to a Lenz magnetic field in opposition to a original magnetic field. it is a sad shame, that Faradays law can exist from 1860s to 2016, while no-one sees that it does not even have a Lenz law incorporated in it. Sad that we can deliver a equation for water flow or temperature gradients, but we cannot recognize that Faraday's law math is absent of Lenz law. All we need is just the plain and simple Product Rule of Differential Calculus. All we need is a derivative of two multiplied functions of (fg)' = f'g + g'f + C, where C is a constant. So that both Faraday and Ampere laws have three terms on rightside of equation. So, what happens when you take the derivative of V*R^-1, V is voltage, R is resistance (V*R^-1)' = V'*R^-1 + V*(R^-1)' I wrote that in 2016, and now I need it in 2017 to show that Newton's definition of Force F =ma is lacking of two accelerations rather than being one acceleration. That F = m(a1 + a2) is what Physics force is truly. AP
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| From | Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-30 01:01 -0700 |
| Subject | Newton forgot the Product Rule of Calculus Re: Re-doing all physics starting off with F=m(a1+a2), not F=ma, 8th ed Atom Totality |
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| In reply to | #631328 |
Now i amnot going to start the 8th edition until i clearly have in mind how Gravity = EM. Before i said gravity = magnetism, but now i need electricity also. Now do not get me wrong, mass has a key role in gravity, for obvious reason mass is the amount of negative and positive charge involved. And the physics fools of the past dismissed EM in gravity by saying the cosmic EM was *neutral* and that when EM is neutral it has no role in gravity. The huge trouble with that complacent idea is neutral or not, charges have voltage as Space itself and magnetism has magnetic field as space. AP
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| From | Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-30 15:38 -0700 |
| Subject | Newton forgot the Product Rule of Calculus Re: Re-doing all physics starting off with F=m(a1+a2), not F=ma, 8th ed Atom Totality |
| Message-ID | <f13d9dde-c385-497c-9d46-0151895836b4@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #631336 |
Alright i have glimmers of sight of solving gravity = EM It is a pretty picture It is an idea i had so many times before An idea of the Maxwell Equations once they fully register in the mind, dating back to college physics We learn the Faraday and Ampere law, and realize one picks up where the other drops off. A moving magnet creates electric current and the current creates a moving magnet The sun is like the moving magnetism creating the current planets. The current planets creating new magnetism creating the moons and rings Or, the sun is the current, creating magnetism which is the planets, which in turn since it is moving magnetism creates more new current which is the moons and rings. What exists in the world is matter and mass-- atoms. And once you have existence you need to be doing something-- motion. And that motion is perpetual motion of going around in circles. A magnet creates current and that current creates another magnet which in turn starts the cycle over again. If gravity is what Newton or General Relativity say it is, it would have grinded to a halt soon after it (cosmos) was borne. What gravity is-- is the Faraday law flowing seamlessly into the Ampere law and that flowing into Faraday law-- a cosmic perpetual motion. We cannot build a electrical device where we go from Faraday to Ampere back to Faraday and so on for a long time since we have friction resistance etc etc But inside an atom we have perpetual motion where faraday law and ampere law continually cycle through one another. Our universe itself is one big atom and Faraday cycles through Ampere laws and we call it gravity. AP
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| From | Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-30 18:57 -0700 |
| Subject | True genesis of the Universe Re: 8th ed Atom Totality |
| Message-ID | <be66de00-4cb7-40e6-a1e9-6eaa5592dc55@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #631460 |
So imagine we can sit someplace and watch how the Universe is borne, created, and lives, what would we see. We would see a hydrogen atom of its 1 electron going around its 1 proton. Thus we have existence of something-- 1 thing a hydrogen atom. And its occupation being electron going around a proton. But it has a job to perform-- it must build more atoms with its talent of going around. AP
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| From | Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-30 22:30 -0700 |
| Subject | making all astronomy be the accounting of either Faraday or Ampere laws Re: 8th ed Atom Totality |
| Message-ID | <6552c68f-db4e-42f6-98ab-ae3fba5df01d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #631515 |
So I need to know if the Sun is moving through Space with the planets going around the Sun much like a magnetic field going around electrons in electricity and these sites tell me that it is a 60 degree inclination of the planets. Now Saturn has a 30 degree inclination of its Rings relative to Saturn's forward motion;;;; Is the Solar System Really a Vortex? - Universe Today https://www.universetoday.com/.../is-the-solar-system-really-a-vortex/ Jul 8, 2012 ... Is this really how the Solar System works? (Rendering by DjSadhu) ... Solar system “vortex” gif (by DjSadhu). What it purports to show is the ... Vortex motion: Viral video showing Sun's motion through galaxy is ... www.slate.com/.../vortex_motion_viral_video_showing_sun_s_motion_ through_galaxy_is_wrong.html Mar 4, 2013 ... No, Our Solar System is NOT a “Vortex” ... Sometimes the planets really are ahead of the Sun as we orbit in the Milky Way, and sometimes trail ... Why is the Solar Helical (Vortex) model wrong? - Astronomy Stack ... https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/.../why-is-the-solar-helical-vortex- model-wrong ref: Youtube video The helical model - our solar system is a vortex ... That thing - universetoday.com/107322/is-the-solar-system-really-a-vortex - sums it up. The helical model - our solar system is a vortex - YouTube ► 3:21 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jHsq36_NTU Aug 24, 2012 - 3 min - Uploaded by DjSadhu This is a non-conventional view of our solar system that is different from the standard 'flat ... The Helical Model - vortex solar system animation | DjSadhu.com www.djsadhu.com/the-helical-model-vortex-solar-system-animation/ 221 thoughts on “The Helical Model – vortex solar system animation”. Carol Levine says: December 18, 2012 at 4:04 pm. Thank you for that explanation. Really ...
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| From | Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-01 01:02 -0700 |
| Subject | ASTRO DATA TABLE Re: making all astronomy be the accounting of either Faraday or Ampere laws Re: 8th ed Atom Totality |
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| In reply to | #631527 |
Alright, in the 8th edition, I need a chapter that does just the data and facts of Solar System objects. As an ongoing job and duty of astronomers to constantly refresh revise and update the data of our Solar System. Just today I was informed that the speed of the Sun in the Galaxy was not 220km/second but rather 230km/second. This is what I mean by constant revising. So that anyone can go to this Astronomy Data and pull up whatever is needed. This is my best data:: Now that Utexas site delivers this table with my own modifications in the third column. These precessions are in arcseconds/year and thanks to Richard Fitzpatrick 2009/07/28 for having this website. Basically I am after the **observed precession** for that is the most important number. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Mercury, 5.75 observed, 5.50 theor, +0.25 deviat Venus, 2.04 observed, 10.75 theor, -8.71 deviat Earth, 11.45 observed, 11.87 theor, -0.42 deviat Mars, 16.28 observed, 17.60 theor, -1.32 deviat Jupiter, 6.55 observed, 7.42 theor, -0.87 deviat Saturn, 19.50 observed, 18.36 theor, +1.14 deviat Uranus, 3.34 observed, 2.72 theor, +0.62 deviat Neptune, 0.36 observed, 0.65 theor, -0.29 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sun, average density 1.4 gm/cm^3 but core is 150 gm/cm^3 and where core is equal to about 0.2 solar radii MEAN DENSITIES Mercury, 5.4 gm/cm^3, metal core is 42% of volume Venus, 5.2 gm/cm^3, metallic core Earth, 5.5 gm/cm^3, metal core 17% volume Moon, 3.3 gm/cm^3, iron core Mars, 3.9 gm/cm^3, iron sulfide core --------- Jupiter, 1.3 gm/cm^3, rocky core that is 12-45 Earth mass and 3 to 15% of Jupiter's total mass Saturn, 0.7 gm/cm^3, (less dense than water), rocky core 9 to 22 times Earth mass Uranus, 1.2 gm/cm^3, rock core Neptune, 1.6 gm/cm^3, rock core of iron, nickel, silicates Pluto, 2.1 gm/cm^3, rock core -------- Satellites of Jupiter: Io, 3.5 gm/cm^3, iron core Europa, 3.0 gm/cm^3, iron core Ganymede, 1.9 gm/cm^3, Fe and FeS iron core Callisto, 1.8 gm/cm^3, silicate core _____ Saturn satellite Titan, 1.8 gm/cm^3 silicate core xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx --- quoting from http://www.indiana.edu/~g302/planets.pdf. --- Solar System Composition Metals Oxides Mass Diameter Fe, Ni SiO 2 ,MgO,FeO Name (10 27 g) (10 3 km) % (10 27 g) % (10 27 g) Sun 1,990,000 0.1 0.2 Mercury 0.33 4.88 50 0.16 50 0.17 Venus 4.87 12.11 30 1.46 69 3.36 Earth 5.97 12.76 29 1.73 69 4.12 Mars 0.64 6.79 10 0.06 90 Asteroids 0.0002 15 3x10 -5 85 1.7x10 -4 Jupiter 1900 143.2 4 80 9 170 Saturn 570 120 7 40 14 80 Uranus 88 51.8 8 7 17 15 Neptune 103 49.5 6 6 14 14 --- end quoting from http://www.indiana.edu/~g302/planets.pdf. --- xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx So I went looking around for rotation periods and tilt, today. --- from this website --- http://cseligman.com/text/sky/rotationvsday.htm Rotation period Mercury 58.6 days Venus -243.0 days Earth 23 hours 56 minutes Moon 27.3 days Mars 24 hours 37 minutes Jupiter 9 hours 55 minutes Saturn 10 hours 32 minutes Uranus -17 hours 14 minutes Neptune 16 hours 6 minutes Pluto -6 days 9 hours Angle of tilt on axis: Mercury 0 degrees Venus -3 degrees Jupiter 3 degrees Uranus -82 degrees Pluto -72 degrees Earth 23.5 degrees Mars 25 degrees Saturn 27degrees Neptune 30 degrees --- From a different website, I needed to know the rotation period of the Sun --- from a source: Sun rotation period is approx 25 days Next, I needed the data on the satellites of the gas giants of their rotation-period and tilt: From Wikipedia data: Rotation period Ganymede synchronous with orbit 7.1 days, with tilt 0 degrees Callisto synchronous with orbit 16.7 days, 0 degrees Io synchronous 1.7 days, 0 degrees Europa synchronous with orbit 3.5 days, 0 degrees Titan synchronous 15.9 days, 0 degrees tilt Moon synchronous 27.3 days Finally, I was suspicious that comets would also have rotation periods so went looking and found this site: http://www.ifa.hawaii.edu/~meech/rot.html Apparently the nucleus of comets has a rotation period and this website gives rotation periods of about 7.6 hours to 15.0 hours on a list of comets studied. Can I draw any conclusions so far? Probably too premature, but I do notice the rotation period of our Sun closely matches that of the Moon. I also notice that the tilt on axis of Earth is closely matched by that of Mars, Saturn, Neptune. I remember a theory that the Moon collided with Earth very early in the history of Earth some 4 billion years ago and due to that collision, the theory went on to proffer that the tilt of Earth was caused. So I seriously doubt that Earth Moon collision when Mars is so much identical in tilt to Earth. I do notice a pattern starting to emerge in that the inner planets rotation period is in days whereas the gas giants are in hours. This would be like saying that the inner planets have stopping grow fast with Dirac new radioactivities and are old astro bodies whereas the gas giants are young astro bodies and are growing fast with new cosmic rays and cosmic gamma ray bursts. But I need to find out more data and to analyze much more on this. What is hopeful is that rotation period can eventually be the best guide in astronomy as to a "age of a astro body." So that if we have a fastly rotating galaxy, then it is a young galaxy and if we have a galaxy with not much rotation at all, then it is very old. Even applied to clusters of galaxies. One of the gravest weakness of modern astronomy is the lack of measuring for age and perhaps this rotation period linked to age is going to open up alot of new data. AP
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| From | Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-02 00:30 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: ASTRO 2nd of DATA TABLE Re: making all astronomy be the accounting of either Faraday or Ampere laws Re: 8th ed Atom Totality |
| Message-ID | <9e9370a0-c69d-4f77-b264-f1ad6b055ffb@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #631542 |
MORE DATA TABLE OF SOLAR SYSTEM:: Alright, let give you a new rule for the distance spacing of planets. A rule that follows a Coulomb or gravity force law. Where we consider that the Titius Bode Rule above for the inner planets and the satellites of Jupiter to be secondary spacings and not primary spacings. Let me call this new Rule the Plutonium-Titius-Bode Rule: 1 + 2^2 =3D 5 2 + 3^2 =3D 11 3 + 4^2 =3D 19 4 + 5^2 =3D 29 Now here are the actual distance spacings of Jupiter to Neptune Jupiter =3D 5.2 Au Saturn =3D 9.5 Au Uranus =3D 19.1 Au Neptune =3D 30.0 Au Now if I carried it out to a fifth planet beyond Jupiter I would have 5 + 6^2 =3D 41 which is not bad for Pluto at actual 39.4 Au. The bad thing about the Titius Bode Rule is that it was one formula for two different planetary groupings. I call them CellWell1 and CellWell2. So here is the old Titius Bode Rule (0 + 4)/10 = 0.4 for Mercury (in Au) (3 + 4)/10 = 0.7 for Venus (6 + 4)/10 = 1.0 for Earth . . . Here is the newest AP-Titius-Bode Rule which applies only to CellWell2 of Jupiter and beyond, whereas the old Titius Bode Rule really only applied to the inner planets and the moons of Jupiter. 1 + 2^2 = 5 for Jupiter (in Au) 2 + 3^2 = 11 for Saturn 3 + 4^2 = 19 for Uranus 4 + 5^2 = 29 for Neptune 5 + 6^2 = 41 for Pluto 6 + 7^2 = 55 for Kuiper Belt 7 + 8^2 = 71 Now I looked to see how well matched those numbers are with actual distances, and they match far better than the old Titius-Bode Rule. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx --- quoting from Dirac's excellent little book Directions in Physics, 1978, page 77 --- This continuous creation of matter must be looked upon as something quite independent of known physical processes. According to the ordinary physical processes, which we study in the laboratory, matter is conserved. Here we have direct nonconservation of matter. It is, if you like, a new kind of radioactive process for which there is nonconservation of matter and by which particles are created where they did not previously exist. The effect is very small, because the number of particles created will be appreciable only when we wait for a very long time interval compared with the age of the Universe. --- end quote --- Now Dirac goes on to discuss whether New Radioactivity is additive or multiplicative. But my concern is whether we can turn the Periodic Table of Chemical Elements around to show that **radioactive growth** occurs equally to that of radioactive decay. For we commonly think of finding a sample of uranium with lead and then go on to assume or presume that all the lead came from the uranium decaying into lead, whereas there is the other possibility that some of the lead was created from a lower atomic numbered element and that some of the uranium was created from lower atomic numbered element such as lead itself. So that when we find a sample of U238 with half life of 4.5 billion years and find half the sample is U238 and the other half is lead, we jump to the false conclusion of 4.5 billion years old, whereas in fact, it was likely to be 6 billion years old since some of the lead turned into U238 and some of the thallium and mercury turned into lead. So we need, in chemistry and physics a brand new chart or table showing us the pathways of Radioactive Growth due to Dirac's New Radioactivity. Now I began to make a list of mean density gram/cm^3 of planets and satellites: Venus 5.2 Earth 5.51 Mars 3.93 Vesta asteroid 3.45 Ceres asteroid 2.07 Jupiter 1.32 Saturn 0.68 Uranus 1.27 Neptune 1.63 Pluto 2.03 gas giant satellites Ganymede 1.93 Titan 1.87 Europa 3.01 Io 3.52 Our own Moon 3.34 Now taking a close look at this table, if we consider some satellites such as Europa and Io as having been "captured metal asteroid", then the rest of the table divides into two. Where we have the Sun and inner planets with the Moon as being 10 billion years old and growing via Dirac's New Radioactivity, whereas the outer planets, the gas giants as being a mere 5 billion years old and their density is evidence of this younger age. So that physicists need to prepare a table for Radioactive Growth alongside our presently existing table of radioactive decay pathways. One of the pathways of growth appears to be heavy water in comets where there is sparse density, but that radioactive growth of heavy water is uncommon where there is greater density such as in Earth oceans. So that if you had water on a comet, it is likely to grow into heavy water whereas that same water on Earth is Dirac new radioactive growth unlikely to happen. So physicists need to start preparing Radioactive Growth pathway tables. Such a table should explain why thorium and uranium are so strangely abundant in the cosmos when it should not be so abundant. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sun 230 km/s orbital speed around Milky Way Mercury, 0.24 yr orbital period, 47.87 km/s orbital speed Venus, 0.61 yr orbital period, 35.02 km/s orbital speed Earth, 1 yr orbital period, 29.78 km/s orbital speed Mars, 1.8 yrs orbital period, 24.07 km/s orbital speed Jupiter, 11.86 yrs orbital period, 13.07 km/s orbital speed Saturn, 29.45 yrs orbital period, 9.69 km/s orbital speed Uranus, 84.32 yrs orbital period, 6.81 km/s orbital speed Neptune, 164.79 yrs orbital period, 5.43 km/s orbital speed xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Mercury magnetic field strength 1% of Earth or 300 nT Venus magnetic field strength is 10^-5 times Earth Earth magnetic field strength 3x10^4nT to 6x10^4nT Moon magnetic field strength is 1 to 100 nT Mars magnetic field strength is 10^-4 times Earth I should include the spin of these astro bodies as equatorial rotation velocity: Mercury 11km/h Venus 6km/h Earth 1,674 km/h Moon 18 km/h Mars 868 km/h Axial tilt (from wikipedia) Mercury 2.11 degrees Venus 177.3degrees Venus is rotating the reverse of other planets, retrograde rotation Earth 23degrees ; Moon 1.5 degrees to ecliptic Mars 25.19 degrees Jupiter 3.13 degrees Saturn 26.73 degrees Uranus 97.77 degrees Neptune 28.32 degrees Alright, let me keep adding to the magnetic fields of planets table: Jupiter's magnetic field 14X larger than Earth's Saturn magnetic field about the same as Earth Uranus an asymmetrical magnetosphere 0.23 gauss Neptune similar to Uranus only 0.14 gauss AP
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-05-02 14:28 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: ASTRO 2nd of DATA TABLE Re: making all astronomy be the accounting of either Faraday or Ampere laws Re: 8th ed Atom Totality |
| Message-ID | <oea522$q2i$3@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #631694 |
Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> writes:
>Let me call this new Rule the Plutonium-Titius-Bode Rule:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html
The Crackpot Index
25. 20 points for naming something after yourself. (E.g., talking about
the "The Evans Field Equation" when your name happens to be Evans.)
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| From | Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-02 14:55 -0700 |
| Subject | SOLAR SYSTEM DATA TABLE Re: 8th ed Atom Totality |
| Message-ID | <e3443d28-77fc-45e9-960b-e4424e4d1870@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #631694 |
Alright when I went to college in the late 1960s early 1970s in math we had something called CRC tables, chemical rubber company tables of math, all sorts of facts on math. Now we need a similar book whose whole message is tables on facts and data of the Solar System. And it we need it so that each year some better numbers are given for many of the facts and data. Such as the numbers given by all the robots out there and sending their data back to Earth. ASTRO DATA TABLE Re: making all astronomy be the accounting of either Faraday or Ampere laws Re: 8th ed Atom Totality Alright, in the 8th edition, I need a chapter that does just the data and facts of Solar System objects. As an ongoing job and duty of astronomers to constantly refresh revise and update the data of our Solar System. Just today I was informed that the speed of the Sun in the Galaxy was not 220km/second but rather 230km/second. This is what I mean by constant revising. So that anyone can go to this Astronomy Data and pull up whatever is needed. This is my best data:: Now that Utexas site delivers this table with my own modifications in the third column. These precessions are in arcseconds/year and thanks to Richard Fitzpatrick 2009/07/28 for having this website. Basically I am after the **observed precession** for that is the most important number. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Mercury, 5.75 observed, 5.50 theor, +0.25 deviat Venus, 2.04 observed, 10.75 theor, -8.71 deviat Earth, 11.45 observed, 11.87 theor, -0.42 deviat Mars, 16.28 observed, 17.60 theor, -1.32 deviat Jupiter, 6.55 observed, 7.42 theor, -0.87 deviat Saturn, 19.50 observed, 18.36 theor, +1.14 deviat Uranus, 3.34 observed, 2.72 theor, +0.62 deviat Neptune, 0.36 observed, 0.65 theor, -0.29 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sun, average density 1.4 gm/cm^3 but core is 150 gm/cm^3 and where core is equal to about 0.2 solar radii MEAN DENSITIES Mercury, 5.4 gm/cm^3, metal core is 42% of volume Venus, 5.2 gm/cm^3, metallic core Earth, 5.5 gm/cm^3, metal core 17% volume Moon, 3.3 gm/cm^3, iron core Mars, 3.9 gm/cm^3, iron sulfide core --------- Jupiter, 1.3 gm/cm^3, rocky core that is 12-45 Earth mass and 3 to 15% of Jupiter's total mass Saturn, 0.7 gm/cm^3, (less dense than water), rocky core 9 to 22 times Earth mass Uranus, 1.2 gm/cm^3, rock core Neptune, 1.6 gm/cm^3, rock core of iron, nickel, silicates Pluto, 2.1 gm/cm^3, rock core -------- Satellites of Jupiter: Io, 3.5 gm/cm^3, iron core Europa, 3.0 gm/cm^3, iron core Ganymede, 1.9 gm/cm^3, Fe and FeS iron core Callisto, 1.8 gm/cm^3, silicate core _____ Saturn satellite Titan, 1.8 gm/cm^3 silicate core xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx --- quoting from http://www.indiana.edu/~g302/planets.pdf. --- Solar System Composition Metals Oxides Mass Diameter Fe, Ni SiO 2 ,MgO,FeO Name (10 27 g) (10 3 km) % (10 27 g) % (10 27 g) Sun 1,990,000 0.1 0.2 Mercury 0.33 4.88 50 0.16 50 0.17 Venus 4.87 12.11 30 1.46 69 3.36 Earth 5.97 12.76 29 1.73 69 4.12 Mars 0.64 6.79 10 0.06 90 Asteroids 0.0002 15 3x10 -5 85 1.7x10 -4 Jupiter 1900 143.2 4 80 9 170 Saturn 570 120 7 40 14 80 Uranus 88 51.8 8 7 17 15 Neptune 103 49.5 6 6 14 14 --- end quoting from http://www.indiana.edu/~g302/planets.pdf. --- xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx So I went looking around for rotation periods and tilt, today. --- from this website --- http://cseligman.com/text/sky/rotationvsday.htm Rotation period Mercury 58.6 days Venus -243.0 days Earth 23 hours 56 minutes Moon 27.3 days Mars 24 hours 37 minutes Jupiter 9 hours 55 minutes Saturn 10 hours 32 minutes Uranus -17 hours 14 minutes Neptune 16 hours 6 minutes Pluto -6 days 9 hours Angle of tilt on axis: Mercury 0 degrees Venus -3 degrees Jupiter 3 degrees Uranus -82 degrees Pluto -72 degrees Earth 23.5 degrees Mars 25 degrees Saturn 27degrees Neptune 30 degrees --- From a different website, I needed to know the rotation period of the Sun --- from a source: Sun rotation period is approx 25 days Next, I needed the data on the satellites of the gas giants of their rotation-period and tilt: From Wikipedia data: Rotation period Ganymede synchronous with orbit 7.1 days, with tilt 0 degrees Callisto synchronous with orbit 16.7 days, 0 degrees Io synchronous 1.7 days, 0 degrees Europa synchronous with orbit 3.5 days, 0 degrees Titan synchronous 15.9 days, 0 degrees tilt Moon synchronous 27.3 days Finally, I was suspicious that comets would also have rotation periods so went looking and found this site: http://www.ifa.hawaii.edu/~meech/rot.html Apparently the nucleus of comets has a rotation period and this website gives rotation periods of about 7.6 hours to 15.0 hours on a list of comets studied. Can I draw any conclusions so far? Probably too premature, but I do notice the rotation period of our Sun closely matches that of the Moon. I also notice that the tilt on axis of Earth is closely matched by that of Mars, Saturn, Neptune. I remember a theory that the Moon collided with Earth very early in the history of Earth some 4 billion years ago and due to that collision, the theory went on to proffer that the tilt of Earth was caused. So I seriously doubt that Earth Moon collision when Mars is so much identical in tilt to Earth. I do notice a pattern starting to emerge in that the inner planets rotation period is in days whereas the gas giants are in hours. This would be like saying that the inner planets have stopping grow fast with Dirac new radioactivities and are old astro bodies whereas the gas giants are young astro bodies and are growing fast with new cosmic rays and cosmic gamma ray bursts. But I need to find out more data and to analyze much more on this. What is hopeful is that rotation period can eventually be the best guide in astronomy as to a "age of a astro body." So that if we have a fastly rotating galaxy, then it is a young galaxy and if we have a galaxy with not much rotation at all, then it is very old. Even applied to clusters of galaxies. One of the gravest weakness of modern astronomy is the lack of measuring for age and perhaps this rotation period linked to age is going to open up alot of new data. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx MORE DATA TABLE OF SOLAR SYSTEM:: Alright, let give you a new rule for the distance spacing of planets. A rule that follows a Coulomb or gravity force law. Where we consider that the Titius Bode Rule above for the inner planets and the satellites of Jupiter to be secondary spacings and not primary spacings. Let me call this new Rule the Plutonium-Titius-Bode Rule: 1 + 2^2 =3D 5 2 + 3^2 =3D 11 3 + 4^2 =3D 19 4 + 5^2 =3D 29 Now here are the actual distance spacings of Jupiter to Neptune Jupiter =3D 5.2 Au Saturn =3D 9.5 Au Uranus =3D 19.1 Au Neptune =3D 30.0 Au Now if I carried it out to a fifth planet beyond Jupiter I would have 5 + 6^2 =3D 41 which is not bad for Pluto at actual 39.4 Au. The bad thing about the Titius Bode Rule is that it was one formula for two different planetary groupings. I call them CellWell1 and CellWell2. So here is the old Titius Bode Rule (0 + 4)/10 = 0.4 for Mercury (in Au) (3 + 4)/10 = 0.7 for Venus (6 + 4)/10 = 1.0 for Earth . . . Here is the newest AP-Titius-Bode Rule which applies only to CellWell2 of Jupiter and beyond, whereas the old Titius Bode Rule really only applied to the inner planets and the moons of Jupiter. 1 + 2^2 = 5 for Jupiter (in Au) 2 + 3^2 = 11 for Saturn 3 + 4^2 = 19 for Uranus 4 + 5^2 = 29 for Neptune 5 + 6^2 = 41 for Pluto 6 + 7^2 = 55 for Kuiper Belt 7 + 8^2 = 71 Now I looked to see how well matched those numbers are with actual distances, and they match far better than the old Titius-Bode Rule. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx --- quoting from Dirac's excellent little book Directions in Physics, 1978, page 77 --- This continuous creation of matter must be looked upon as something quite independent of known physical processes. According to the ordinary physical processes, which we study in the laboratory, matter is conserved. Here we have direct nonconservation of matter. It is, if you like, a new kind of radioactive process for which there is nonconservation of matter and by which particles are created where they did not previously exist. The effect is very small, because the number of particles created will be appreciable only when we wait for a very long time interval compared with the age of the Universe. --- end quote --- Now Dirac goes on to discuss whether New Radioactivity is additive or multiplicative. But my concern is whether we can turn the Periodic Table of Chemical Elements around to show that **radioactive growth** occurs equally to that of radioactive decay. For we commonly think of finding a sample of uranium with lead and then go on to assume or presume that all the lead came from the uranium decaying into lead, whereas there is the other possibility that some of the lead was created from a lower atomic numbered element and that some of the uranium was created from lower atomic numbered element such as lead itself. So that when we find a sample of U238 with half life of 4.5 billion years and find half the sample is U238 and the other half is lead, we jump to the false conclusion of 4.5 billion years old, whereas in fact, it was likely to be 6 billion years old since some of the lead turned into U238 and some of the thallium and mercury turned into lead. So we need, in chemistry and physics a brand new chart or table showing us the pathways of Radioactive Growth due to Dirac's New Radioactivity. Now I began to make a list of mean density gram/cm^3 of planets and satellites: Venus 5.2 Earth 5.51 Mars 3.93 Vesta asteroid 3.45 Ceres asteroid 2.07 Jupiter 1.32 Saturn 0.68 Uranus 1.27 Neptune 1.63 Pluto 2.03 gas giant satellites Ganymede 1.93 Titan 1.87 Europa 3.01 Io 3.52 Our own Moon 3.34 Now taking a close look at this table, if we consider some satellites such as Europa and Io as having been "captured metal asteroid", then the rest of the table divides into two. Where we have the Sun and inner planets with the Moon as being 10 billion years old and growing via Dirac's New Radioactivity, whereas the outer planets, the gas giants as being a mere 5 billion years old and their density is evidence of this younger age. So that physicists need to prepare a table for Radioactive Growth alongside our presently existing table of radioactive decay pathways. One of the pathways of growth appears to be heavy water in comets where there is sparse density, but that radioactive growth of heavy water is uncommon where there is greater density such as in Earth oceans. So that if you had water on a comet, it is likely to grow into heavy water whereas that same water on Earth is Dirac new radioactive growth unlikely to happen. So physicists need to start preparing Radioactive Growth pathway tables. Such a table should explain why thorium and uranium are so strangely abundant in the cosmos when it should not be so abundant. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sun 230 km/s orbital speed around Milky Way Mercury, 0.24 yr orbital period, 47.87 km/s orbital speed Venus, 0.61 yr orbital period, 35.02 km/s orbital speed Earth, 1 yr orbital period, 29.78 km/s orbital speed Mars, 1.8 yrs orbital period, 24.07 km/s orbital speed Jupiter, 11.86 yrs orbital period, 13.07 km/s orbital speed Saturn, 29.45 yrs orbital period, 9.69 km/s orbital speed Uranus, 84.32 yrs orbital period, 6.81 km/s orbital speed Neptune, 164.79 yrs orbital period, 5.43 km/s orbital speed xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Mercury magnetic field strength 1% of Earth or 300 nT Venus magnetic field strength is 10^-5 times Earth Earth magnetic field strength 3x10^4nT to 6x10^4nT Moon magnetic field strength is 1 to 100 nT Mars magnetic field strength is 10^-4 times Earth I should include the spin of these astro bodies as equatorial rotation velocity: Mercury 11km/h Venus 6km/h Earth 1,674 km/h Moon 18 km/h Mars 868 km/h Axial tilt (from wikipedia) Mercury 2.11 degrees Venus 177.3degrees Venus is rotating the reverse of other planets, retrograde rotation Earth 23degrees ; Moon 1.5 degrees to ecliptic Mars 25.19 degrees Jupiter 3.13 degrees Saturn 26.73 degrees Uranus 97.77 degrees Neptune 28.32 degrees Alright, let me keep adding to the magnetic fields of planets table: Jupiter's magnetic field 14X larger than Earth's Saturn magnetic field about the same as Earth Uranus an asymmetrical magnetosphere 0.23 gauss Neptune similar to Uranus only 0.14 gauss AP
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| From | Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-02 20:46 -0700 |
| Subject | Repeat of experiment-- attract is 14% stronger repel Re: 8th ed Atom Totality |
| Message-ID | <3d03f60b-3be3-484f-bd52-32c89fa2a7e0@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #631752 |
Repeated the experiment of the German company that found attract magnetism is 5-10% stronger than repel. Last time i did this i found 7% stronger. But under poor conditions since i used unequal magnets. Under better controls i find the attract is 14% stronger, 3/3.5 AP
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| From | Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-02 22:59 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Repeat of experiment-- attract is 14% stronger repel Re: 8th ed Atom Totality |
| Message-ID | <272a8ae9-9c38-4ee4-895c-b154de840788@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #631795 |
On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 10:46:30 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote: > Repeated the experiment of the German company that found attract magnetism is 5-10% stronger than repel. > > Last time i did this i found 7% stronger. But under poor conditions since i used unequal magnets. > > Under better controls i find the attract is 14% stronger, 3/3.5 > > AP Was looking to see if 85% or 86% comes up again in physics, or its complement 15% or 14% and strangely enough in Bell Inequality. AP
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| From | Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-03 00:06 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Repeat of experiment-- attract is 14% stronger repel Re: 8th ed Atom Totality |
| Message-ID | <058e1e3e-e17b-40f8-9688-65860249cd19@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #631805 |
Holy, holy,holy, smokes, pi is 3.14 and e is 2.71 2.71/3.14 is 86% So that attraction in EM follows 3.14.... And Repel is Pauli Exclusion Denial of Same Space Occupancy follows 2.71.... What a beautiful law of physics. AP
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| From | Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-03 00:42 -0700 |
| Subject | there is no repel force in EM theory, just a deny principle Re: Repeat of experiment-- attract is 14% stronger repel Re: 8th ed Atom Totality |
| Message-ID | <3adebbb5-6719-4bee-93de-a204de044766@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #631811 |
On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 2:06:42 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote: > Holy, holy,holy, smokes, pi is 3.14 and e is 2.71 > > 2.71/3.14 is 86% > > So that attraction in EM follows 3.14.... And Repel is Pauli Exclusion Denial of Same Space Occupancy follows 2.71.... > > What a beautiful law of physics. > > AP Alright, I should describe in detail this experiment performed tonight. It is a repeat of a German Company Magnete of their results that attraction is 5-10% stronger than repel. In my first experiment I had no assistance, to hold things or to observe and help. And I had strong unequal magnets. Today I had assistance and I had two equal magnets that were far less strong (neodynium) magnets. What I had was a plastic shaped in a L form, only the two sides were equal in distance as a channel or road for the two magnets to follow. I masking taped a marker for my control magnet of a distance and the approach magnet was masking taped markered so I could easy read the numbers in centimeters. So, when the two attract magnets were at a distance separation of 3.5 cm they flew together And, with like poles, they started to move apart at 3 cm separation. In other words, attraction is .5 cm stronger. Very very simple to do experiment. And extremely important, for it is proof that in EM theory, only a force of attraction exists. What we thought was repel, is not repel at all, but is a denial of the same space occupancy, a Pauli Exclusion Principle. When like poles of magnets get close, it is the magnetic fields in both that are denying one another. Remember, it is not repel, but a denial. But it is an attraction of unlike. And what that means is that like also attracts, because there is no repel. The reason that protons form a nucleus is because like charges attract and the reason electrons for all together in the space around the nucleus of an atom is because only attraction exists. But, if you get one electron to close to another, they deny getting any closer. And the pretty part of this story, is that the number 3/3.5 is a form of 2.71.../3.14.... AP
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| From | Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-03 15:57 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: there is no repel force in EM theory, just a deny principle Re: Repeat of experiment-- attract is 14% stronger repel Re: 8th ed Atom Totality |
| Message-ID | <bad5a990-06ae-46bb-bbad-5b603ac8ad4a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #631812 |
Alright, let us see if there is a broad connection of the fact that magnetism attract exists, but repel does not exist and that attract is 14% stronger than DSSO Let us see if this 14% stronger causes the extreme ellipse shape that we call galaxy filaments. there is no repel force in EM theory, just a deny principle Re: Repeat of experiment-- attract is 14% stronger repel Re: 8th ed Atom Totality Alright, I should describe in detail this experiment performed tonight. It is a repeat of a German Company Magnete of their results that attraction is 5-10% stronger than repel. In my first experiment I had no assistance, to hold things or to observe and help. And I had strong unequal magnets. Today I had assistance and I had two equal magnets that were far less strong (neodynium) magnets. What I had was a plastic shaped in a L form, only the two sides were equal in distance as a channel or road for the two magnets to follow. I masking taped a marker for my control magnet of a distance and the approach magnet was masking taped markered so I could easy read the numbers in centimeters. So, when the two attract magnets were at a distance separation of 3.5 cm they flew together And, with like poles, they started to move apart at 3 cm separation. In other words, attraction is .5 cm stronger. Very very simple to do experiment. And extremely important, for it is proof that in EM theory, only a force of attraction exists. What we thought was repel, is not repel at all, but is a denial of the same space occupancy, a Pauli Exclusion Principle. When like poles of magnets get close, it is the magnetic fields in both that are denying one another. Remember, it is not repel, but a denial. But it is an attraction of unlike. And what that means is that like also attracts, because there is no repel. The reason that protons form a nucleus is because like charges attract and the reason electrons for all together in the space around the nucleus of an atom is because only attraction exists. But, if you get one electron to close to another, they deny getting any closer. And the pretty part of this story, is that the number 3/3.5 is a form of 2.71.../3.14.... AP
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2017-05-03 19:46 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: there is no repel force in EM theory, just a deny principle Re: Repeat of experiment-- attract is 14% stronger repel Re: 8th ed Atom Totality |
| Message-ID | <590a6bba$0$60230$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #631880 |
On 5/3/2017 6:57 PM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote: > Alright, let us see if there is a broad connection of the fact that magnetism attract exists, but repel does not exist and that attract is 14% stronger than DSSO > > Let us see if this 14% stronger causes the extreme ellipse shape that we call galaxy filaments. > > > there is no repel force in EM theory, just a deny principle Re: Repeat of experiment-- attract is 14% stronger repel Re: 8th ed Atom Totality > > Alright, I should describe in detail this experiment performed tonight. > > It is a repeat of a German Company Magnete of their results that attraction is 5-10% stronger than repel. > > In my first experiment I had no assistance, to hold things or to observe and help. And I had strong unequal magnets. > > Today I had assistance and I had two equal magnets that were far less strong (neodynium) magnets. > > > What I had was a plastic shaped in a L form, only the two sides were equal in distance as a channel or road for the two magnets to follow. > > I masking taped a marker for my control magnet of a distance and the approach magnet was masking taped markered so I could easy read the numbers in centimeters. > > So, when the two attract magnets were at a distance separation of 3.5 cm they flew together > And, with like poles, they started to move apart at 3 cm separation. > > In other words, attraction is .5 cm stronger. > > Very very simple to do experiment. And extremely important, for it is proof that in EM theory, only a force of attraction exists. What we thought was repel, is not repel at all, but is a denial of the same space occupancy, a Pauli Exclusion Principle. When like poles of magnets get close, it is the magnetic fields in both that are denying one another. Remember, it is not repel, but a denial. > > But it is an attraction of unlike. And what that means is that like also attracts, because there is no repel. > > The reason that protons form a nucleus is because like charges attract and the reason electrons for all together in the space around the nucleus of an atom is because only attraction exists. But, if you get one electron to close to another, they deny getting any closer. > > And the pretty part of this story, is that the number 3/3.5 is a form of 2.71.../3.14.... > > AP > Absolute babbling senile gibberish.
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| From | Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-03 22:47 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: there is no repel force in EM theory, just a deny principle Re: Repeat of experiment-- attract is 14% stronger repel Re: 8th ed Atom Totality |
| Message-ID | <oee880$50l$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #631887 |
On 5/3/2017 6:46 PM, benj wrote: > On 5/3/2017 6:57 PM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote: >> Alright, let us see if there is a broad connection of the fact that >> magnetism attract exists, but repel does not exist and that attract is >> 14% stronger than DSSO >> >> The reason that protons form a nucleus is because like charges attract >> and the reason electrons for all together in the space around the >> nucleus of an atom is because only attraction exists. But, if you get >> one electron to close to another, they deny getting any closer. >> >> And the pretty part of this story, is that the number 3/3.5 is a form >> of 2.71.../3.14.... >> >> AP >> > Absolute babbling senile gibberish. wait a min.,.... "And the pretty part of this story, is that the number 3/3.5 is a form of 2.71.../3.14.... " 3/3.5 = 0.85714285714285714285714285714286 2.71/3.14 = 0.86305732484076433121019108280255 they are 0.68529...% different !
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