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The Simplest Disproof of Einstein's Relativity

Started byPentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com>
First post2017-02-13 00:41 -0800
Last post2017-02-13 11:31 -0800
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  The Simplest Disproof of Einstein's Relativity Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-13 00:41 -0800
    Re: The Simplest Disproof of Einstein's Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 07:37 -0600
    Re: The Simplest Disproof of Einstein's Relativity edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-02-13 10:04 -0800
    Re: The Simplest Disproof of Einstein's Relativity Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-13 11:31 -0800

#618418 — The Simplest Disproof of Einstein's Relativity

FromPentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com>
Date2017-02-13 00:41 -0800
SubjectThe Simplest Disproof of Einstein's Relativity
Message-ID<98b9f1af-3733-4ae1-bb94-f865eb166c90@googlegroups.com>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwzSPUUhNzg 
 Special Relativity Lecture: 6 Einstein's Two Postulates Explaination

My comment on YouTube:

Einstein's assumption that the speed of light is constant (independent of the speed of source or observer) is OBVIOUSLY false. When the initially stationary observer starts moving towards the light source with speed v, the frequency he measures shifts from f=c/λ to f'=(c+v)/λ (Doppler effect). This means that either the speed of the light relative to the observer shifts from c to c'=c+v, which is fatal for Einstein's relativity, or the motion of the observer somehow changes the wavelength of the incoming light - the wavelength shifts from λ to λ'=λc/(c+v). The latter scenario is absurd - the motion of the observer is obviously unable to change the wavelength of the incoming light. 

Conclusion: The speed of light is different for differently moving observers (varies with the speed of the observer), in violation of Einstein's relativity.

Pentcho Valev

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#618421

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-13 07:37 -0600
Message-ID<o7scrh$7kv$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#618418
On 2/13/2017 2:41 AM, Pentcho Valev wrote:
> The latter scenario is absurd - the motion of the observer is obviously unable to change the wavelength of the incoming light.

Pentcho, the motion of an observer does obviously change the momentum of 
an object. The motion of an observer does obviously change the kinetic 
energy of an object. The motion of the observer does obviously change 
the magnetic field of a charged object.

These are all examples of extrinsic properties, well known in physics 
for quite a long time -- well before you were born or educated.

So when you say that the wavelength -- another extrinsic property -- 
cannot possibly be changed by the motion of the observer, on what basis 
do you declare this absurd when the other properties changing is not so 
absurd?

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#618447

Fromedprochak@gmail.com
Date2017-02-13 10:04 -0800
Message-ID<107079b9-6e02-495f-93c4-7edb7fc39b52@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#618418
On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 12:12:05 PM UTC-5, Pentcho Valev wrote:
> Any correct interpretation of the Doppler effect unequivocally disproves Einstein's relativity:
> 
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> 
> By observing the two indicator lights, you can see for yourself that,
> once more, there is a blue-shift - the pulse frequency measured at
> the receiver is somewhat higher than the frequency with which the
> pulses are sent out. This time, the distances between subsequent
> pulses are not affected, but still there is a frequency shift: As
> the receiver moves towards each pulse, the time until pulse and
> receiver meet up is shortened. In this particular animation,
> which has the receiver moving towards the source at one third the
> speed of the pulses themselves, four pulses are received in the
> time it takes the source to emit three pulses." [end of quotation] 

As I explain before, the fourth pulse travels one full wavelength less
in distance.

> 
> Since "four pulses are received in the time it takes the source
> to emit three pulses", the speed of the pulses relative to the
> receiver (observer) is greater than their speed relative to the
> source, in violation of Einstein's relativity. 
> 
> Pentcho Valev

Your analysis is wrong. They take less time because each one
following the first travels less distance.

Ed

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#618455

FromPentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com>
Date2017-02-13 11:31 -0800
Message-ID<56ea4be4-fb3c-4d74-bdce-0d72e36abba4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#618418
When the initially stationary observer starts moving towards the light source with speed v, the frequency he measures becomes 

f' = (c+v)/λ 

http://www.hep.man.ac.uk/u/roger/PHYS10302/lecture18.pdf 
 "Moving Observer. Now suppose the source is fixed but the observer is moving towards the source, with speed v. In time t, ct/λ waves pass a fixed point. A moving point adds another vt/λ. So f'=(c+v)/λ." 

On the other hand, the speed of the light relative to the moving observer is 

c' = λf' 

Combining the two formulas gives 

c' = c+v 

in violation of Einstein's relativity. 

Barlow's lecture quoted above introduces relativistic corrections (time dilation) and the frequency measured by the moving observer becomes 

f' = γ(c+v)/λ 

The speed of the light relative to the moving observer is, accordingly, 

c' = λf' = γ(c+v) 

Clearly, Einstein's relativity is violated even if the relativistic corrections are taken into account. 

In order to prevent Divine Albert's Divine Theory from collapsing, clever Einsteinians avoid the dangerous formula 

f' = γ(c+v)/λ 

and teach the equivalent relation 

f'/f = sqrt((1+v/c)/(1-v/c)) 

where the variation of the speed of light is somewhat hidden. Silly Einsteinians (99%) learn the last relation by rote and sing "Divine Einstein", "Yes we all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity" and "The faster you move, the heavier you get":

http://www.everythingimportant.org/Einstein_worship/DivineEinstein.jpg 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lE-I2I4i00 
 "No-one's as dee-vine as Albert Einstein not Maxwell, Curie, or Bohr! His fame went glo-bell, he won the Nobel - He should have been given four! No-one's as dee-vine as Albert Einstein, Professor with brains galore! No-one could outshine Professor Einstein! He gave us special relativity, That's always made him a hero to me! No-one's as dee-vine as Albert Einstein, Professor in overdrive!" 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PkLLXhONvQ 
 Max Tegmark: "We all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity. Yes we all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity. Everything is relative, even simultaneity, and soon Einstein's become a de facto physics deity. 'cos we all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity. We all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity. Yes we all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity." 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuxFXHircaI 
 Michio Kaku, Brian Cox, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Brian Greene, Lisa Randall: "Now, listen carefully. The faster you move, the heavier you get. Light travels at the same speed no matter how you look at it. No matter how I move relative to you light travels at the same speed. No matter who is doing the measurement and no matter what direction you are moving the speed of light is the same. The speed of light is the same no matter what direction or how fast... As you travel faster time slows down. Everything slows down. Everything slows down. Time slows down when you move. Time passes at a different rate. Clocks run slow. It's a monumental shift in how we see the world. It's a beautiful piece of science. It's a beautifully elegant theory. It's a beautiful piece of science. It's a beautiful piece..." 

http://www.krugozormagazine.com/main/content/9-2009_Enshtein-3.jpg 
 "The Riverside Church in New York, west portal - upper line, second of right. In 1930, during a stay in New York, Albert Einstein and his wife visited the Riverside Church, too. During the detailed guided tour through the church Einstein was also shown the sculptures at the west portal. He was told that only one of the sculptures there represented a living person, and that was he himself. What Einstein is supposed to have thought in that moment when he heard that information and saw himself immortalized in stone? Contemporaries reported that he looked at the sculpture calmly and thoughtfully." 

Pentcho Valev

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