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| Started by | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2016-09-26 22:47 -0700 |
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Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 22:47 -0700
Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 06:02 -0700
Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 06:55 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-27 09:07 -0500
Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 07:16 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 09:49 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 12:16 -0500
Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 10:55 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 13:25 -0500
Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 11:53 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 13:19 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 16:21 -0500
Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 14:46 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 17:04 -0500
Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 15:42 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 16:57 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 17:58 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 19:12 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 09:34 -0500
Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 08:24 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 14:43 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-04 18:53 -0400
Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 14:52 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 14:47 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 18:58 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 22:18 -0500
Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 05:10 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 04:37 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 07:06 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 07:23 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 08:31 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 10:57 -0500
Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 09:04 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 11:24 -0500
Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 12:28 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 13:00 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 16:56 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-10-05 00:36 +0000
Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 13:14 -0500
Re: Cosmic Chaos benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-05 17:48 -0400
Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 17:06 -0500
Re: Cosmic Chaos benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-06 16:06 -0400
Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 16:29 -0500
Re: Cosmic Chaos "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 14:09 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-10-05 16:01 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 09:39 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 12:16 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 13:14 -0500
Re: Cosmic Chaos benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-04 19:07 -0400
Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 09:57 -0500
Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 08:04 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 10:37 -0500
Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 09:26 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 11:43 -0500
Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 10:20 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 12:49 -0500
Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 13:03 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 16:27 -0500
Re: Cosmic Chaos benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-04 19:04 -0400
Re: Cosmic Chaos Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 18:55 -0500
Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 17:40 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos "Roger Shrubbery" <moderator@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 18:53 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 19:23 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 20:51 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 07:37 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 07:50 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 13:09 -0500
Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 09:00 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 10:33 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 11:20 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos "Richard Cranium" <moderator@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 18:28 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 21:33 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 17:14 -0500
Re: Cosmic Chaos Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-10-08 12:32 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-05 17:55 -0400
Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 15:01 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 15:58 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-10-05 16:19 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 16:44 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-10-05 16:52 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 19:03 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 06:54 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 07:36 -0700
Re: You're born into this world with X dollars to gamble away. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-06 19:17 -0400
Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-06 21:58 -0400
Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-10-07 07:39 -0400
Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-07 07:16 -0500
Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-07 14:32 -0500
Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 06:35 -0700
Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-07 07:59 -0400
Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-10-07 08:12 -0400
Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-07 08:27 -0400
Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. SteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net> - 2016-10-07 09:06 -0400
Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-07 08:22 -0500
Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 08:32 -0500
Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 08:44 -0700
Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-07 11:57 -0400
Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 10:06 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 10:37 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 11:57 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 16:44 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-06 16:16 -0400
Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 13:47 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-10-06 16:10 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 23:34 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 23:38 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 04:17 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 17:20 -0500
Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 15:52 -0700
Mr. hVac's trip to South America. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 04:12 -0700
Re: Mr. hVac's trip to South America. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-10-07 13:18 +0000
Re: Mr. hVac's trip to South America. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-10-07 10:20 -0700
Brazil is mighty, well and truly. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-10-07 13:05 -0700
Re: Glazier is mighty well and truly deranged. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-10-07 16:39 -0700
Guys speak the "Insult Dialect". Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-10-07 17:01 -0700
I think stress inflamed Mr. hVac's lymph nodes. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-10-07 17:19 -0700
I think stress inflamed Mr. hVac's lymph nodes. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 01:59 -0700
If it makes you feel better, so be it. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 04:15 -0700
Relf is afraid of Swine Glazier... AHAHAHAHAHA.... "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-10-07 18:23 -0700
Does Mr. hVac smoke ? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 13:07 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-06 19:23 -0400
Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 18:09 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-10-07 13:19 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 13:50 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-05 23:57 +0000
Re: Cosmic Chaos benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-04 18:54 -0400
Re: Cosmic Chaos Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-27 09:04 -0500
Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 07:05 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 09:09 -0500
Re: Cosmic Chaos Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-27 09:13 -0500
Re: Cosmic Chaos "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 10:50 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 13:03 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-10-03 13:47 -0700
Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 14:36 -0700
Re: Cosmic Chaos Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-04 09:59 -0500
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-03 14:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <dcdfa115-3d32-4873-a08a-90cf734838a9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #598541 |
john Odd said " Do you get that something that has no boundary can still be explanding? " No. I don't "get" that. You believe in nonsense. -------- Unbounded does not mean the same ad infinite
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2016-10-04 18:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <57f43313$0$31212$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #599314 |
On 10/3/2016 5:43 PM, HVAC wrote: > john > Odd said > " > Do you get that something that has no boundary can > still be explanding? > " > > No. I don't "get" that. > You believe in nonsense. > -------- > > Unbounded does not mean the same ad infinite > Neither are real. Both are fantasy.
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| From | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-27 14:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5f5fee6f-8c0b-4330-a773-85400797ee69@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #598537 |
On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 5:21:43 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote: > On 9/27/2016 3:19 PM, john wrote: > > Odd > > Why have you put Mahipal in your kill file? > > I have lots of people in my killfile for lots of different reasons. > Mahipal generates more noise than signal. The content isn't worth the > effort to parse it. Hey Odd Boy, I'm right here, don't hurt me m(y) feelings! JesusJi Squared?! > > Odd > > I drink Glenfiddich or better. Made in Canada > > is not the deciding factor- single malt > > and age are. > > All, well, in that case Canadian whisky is out, because it's all blended > whisky by law. By law? You are one complacent loser Odd Ball. Break free from your shell. We all get whiskey by global sea routes with fancy giant ships. So what?! > > Odd > > A Fractal Universe is better than > > a Universe that exploded out of Nothing > > (hmm- maybe THAT'S where your 'nothing' > > shit comes from). > > Misperception on your part. Big Bang does not say that Universe exploded > out of Nothing, except in gee-whiz supermarket tabloid versions. Fine. What did the Big Bang explode out of if not nothing. Use words. Don't you Odd get tired of playing twenty questions of what it's not? > > Odd > > What's bigger than everything? What the > > Universe will be tomorrow. What's smaller > > than everything? What the Universe was > > yesterday. > > That's your theory- Big Bang. > > It's amazing how little you know about what the Big Bang says. > First of all, we're not talking about the expansion of a finite universe > with a boundary. Do you get that something that has no boundary can > still be explanding? Do you Odd realize that explanding is not a word? > > WHERE DOES ALL THAT > > ENERGY COME FROM? > > Back to Newton's first law, where NO ENERGY is needed for something to > travel forever, John. Which you seem to just not believe can be true. Newton was/is a great Physicist. Newton was not the first. Shoulders? > As for the Big Bang, the energy comes from the temperature of the > universe, which has been cooling ever since Big Bang. This is just like > how a hot gas expands ON ITS OWN, cooling as it does so, the energy of > the expansion coming from the previous higher temperature. You didn't > know this? What was the temperature when the nothingNess of your one Big Bang exploded? > > Pretty frickin retarded, Odd > -- > Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables Pretty frickin retarded, you are, Odd! Discuss physics, not religion. -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-03 14:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <baa536f3-428e-47fb-b595-a6c6a3339ad1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #598542 |
Maple Loops says Fine. What did the Big Bang explode out of if not nothing. --------- It didn't explode. It expanded from an infinitely dense, infinitely hot, infinitely massive point.
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| From | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-03 18:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <41dce2a1-b49d-4761-8fcf-175b65fff660@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #599315 |
On Monday, October 3, 2016 at 5:47:21 PM UTC-4, HVAC wrote: > Maple Loops says I've missed being called Maple Loops, HVAC. > Fine. What did the Big Bang explode out of if not nothing. > --------- > > It didn't explode. It expanded from an infinitely dense, infinitely > hot, infinitely massive point. Welcome back HVAC! For a regular interactive poster as yourself, next time you go on a long fishing trip, do just mention it. It wouldn't kill you! The rest of us here were pondering/hoping whether you were actually swimming with the fishes. Hell, I was ready to give up sushi dinners. Don't again be cruel or so darn rude, HVAC. Explode, expand, yaddi yadda. So, does your one-liner explanation quench your curiosity regards the Big Bang and its present real-time consequences? This is not a mere yes or no question. -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-03 22:18 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nsv71h$128g$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #599344 |
On 10/3/2016 8:58 PM, Mahipal wrote: > On Monday, October 3, 2016 at 5:47:21 PM UTC-4, HVAC wrote: >> Maple Loops says > > I've missed being called Maple Loops, HVAC. > >> Fine. What did the Big Bang explode out of if not nothing. >> --------- >> >> It didn't explode. It expanded from an infinitely dense, infinitely >> hot, infinitely massive point. > > Welcome back HVAC! For a regular interactive poster as yourself, next > time you go on a long fishing trip, do just mention it. It wouldn't > kill you! The rest of us here were pondering/hoping whether you were > actually swimming with the fishes. Hell, I was ready to give up sushi > dinners. Don't again be cruel or so darn rude, HVAC. > > Explode, expand, yaddi yadda. So, does your one-liner explanation > quench your curiosity regards the Big Bang and its present real-time > consequences? This is not a mere yes or no question. > > -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...” > HEY !! MahipaLoops ! check this out; (british band) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lteb--nvuyo the words; Gonna build myself a castle High up in the clouds. There'll be skies outside my window; Lose these streets and crowds. Dance the night away. Will find myself an ocean, Sail into the blue, Live with the swordfish, Forget the time of you. Dance the night away. Dance myself to nothing. Vanish from this place. Gonna turn myself to shadow So I can't see your face. Dance the night away.
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| From | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-04 05:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ca1956a1-943c-4b5b-a663-4811753cf9e4@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #599348 |
On Monday, October 3, 2016 at 11:18:12 PM UTC-4, Serigo wrote: > On 10/3/2016 8:58 PM, Mahipal wrote: > > On Monday, October 3, 2016 at 5:47:21 PM UTC-4, HVAC wrote: > >> Maple Loops says > > > > I've missed being called Maple Loops, HVAC. > > > >> Fine. What did the Big Bang explode out of if not nothing. > >> --------- > >> > >> It didn't explode. It expanded from an infinitely dense, infinitely > >> hot, infinitely massive point. > > > > Welcome back HVAC! For a regular interactive poster as yourself, next > > time you go on a long fishing trip, do just mention it. It wouldn't > > kill you! The rest of us here were pondering/hoping whether you were > > actually swimming with the fishes. Hell, I was ready to give up sushi > > dinners. Don't again be cruel or so darn rude, HVAC. > > > > Explode, expand, yaddi yadda. So, does your one-liner explanation > > quench your curiosity regards the Big Bang and its present real-time > > consequences? This is not a mere yes or no question. > > > > -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...” > > HEY !! MahipaLoops ! check this out; (british band) > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lteb--nvuyo > > the words; > > Gonna build myself a castle > High up in the clouds. > There'll be skies outside my window; > Lose these streets and crowds. > Dance the night away. > > Will find myself an ocean, > Sail into the blue, > Live with the swordfish, > Forget the time of you. > Dance the night away. The Fish Connection. > Dance myself to nothing. > Vanish from this place. > Gonna turn myself to shadow > So I can't see your face. > Dance the night away. Superb song! Psychedelic Rock by Cream. That electric guitar riff is just fantastic. Thanks SergioJi. I hadn't heard Cream in a long while. Btw, when first I read the lyrics/words, the song almost registered in my memory. The instant I heard the song, I traveled time in my mind... I'm not sure if I want to analyze Cream's lyrics. Just way too cool. After hearing Cream, I recalled this wonderful work of musical art. Remember https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvCmtHDDuu0 too with Greg Lake. "The Court of the Crimson King" is in a similar genre. Sweet flute. A comment by one Ruckler Taran is: The poetry is the speech of souls... -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...” Trump: I hate politicians who read off teleprompters while waving hands. TrumpIsm: There are poor and ugly fat women, be glad you're not one?! MapleLoopsMotto: Dear Sir Or Madam Will You Read My TelePrompter Words... To be clear... Beatles... TelePrompter Writer(s)... Dear Sir or Madam...
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-04 04:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <bcb67b83-1369-44d0-a774-32289f194732@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #599344 |
Mahipal On Monday, October 3, 2016 at 5:47:21 PM UTC-4, HVAC wrote: > Maple Loops says I've missed being called Maple Loops, HVAC. - show quoted text - Welcome back HVAC! For a regular interactive poster as yourself, next time you go on a long fishing trip, do just mention it. It wouldn't kill you! The rest of us here were pondering/hoping whether you were actually swimming with the fishes. Hell, I was ready to give up sushi dinners. Don't again be cruel or so darn rude, HVAC. ---------- Request denied Explode, expand, yaddi yadda. So, does your one-liner explanation quench your curiosity regards the Big Bang and its present real-time consequences? This is not a mere yes or no question. ------- The fact of the bb is without question. As to the initial conditions the question may be irrelevant or unanswerable. Suffice it to say that the big bang has ALWAYS been banging. "Shit happens" is a good an explanation as any in my opinion
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| From | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-04 07:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <77cd93a6-45e0-4314-a653-8aa1e189869d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #599366 |
Warning/Admission: Some of my words hear/here are repeats of past writings.
On Tuesday, October 4, 2016 at 7:37:04 AM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
> Mahipal
> On Monday, October 3, 2016 at 5:47:21 PM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
> > Maple Loops says
>
> I've missed being called Maple Loops, HVAC.
> - show quoted text -
> Welcome back HVAC! For a regular interactive poster as yourself, next
> time you go on a long fishing trip, do just mention it. It wouldn't
> kill you! The rest of us here were pondering/hoping whether you were
> actually swimming with the fishes. Hell, I was ready to give up sushi
> dinners. Don't again be cruel or so darn rude, HVAC.
> ----------
>
> Request denied
Didn't see that coming. O wait... m(y) ESP anticipated it. So predictable!
On the bright side of life, I can enjo(y) having sushi with peace in my mind.
Only worry left is wishing I had money enough for sushi in my Seenchi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0Mx9gP-C4E, Google Seenchi. Just do it.
What beautiful music! The drums, the melody, the lyrics, the composer Sachin!
> Explode, expand, yaddi yadda. So, does your one-liner explanation
> quench your curiosity regards the Big Bang and its present real-time
> consequences? This is not a mere yes or no question.
> -------
>
> The fact of the bb is without question. As to the initial conditions
> the question may be irrelevant or unanswerable. Suffice it to say
> that the big bang has ALWAYS been banging.
There exists nothing that is unquestionable. Period. Suffice banging nothing.
Lights, Camera, Action, Roll/Role... Birdman take 42! The Director's Cut...
As you==HVAC stated, the initial conditions have three infinities to a point.
> "Shit happens" is a good an explanation as any in my opinion
Such a foul mouth you have HVAC. For shame! You kiss your grandkids with it?
Shit, like in John's Limit or as in me m(y) "sHit" where s=signFunction,
H=Hamiltonian, i*i=-1, and t is what's wasted? That shit Shit SHIT?
\begin{Recurring déjà vu}
Wait wait WAIT... SHIT > sHit > (+/-)Hit > -Hit > -iHt ... -iAction.
s == signFunction == (+|-), H=Hamiltonian, t=time, i*i=-1.
Where the fuck Fuck FUCK did you earn any college degree you idiotHVAC?!
\end{Recurring déjà vu}
I'm reminded of the old adage: Opinions are like HVAC (aka Assholes).
Lesson? Not that the ADD can recall it, we're all not ADD!
-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-04 07:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <93209d59-5d8d-4b61-a6a8-ba464d6b5ce7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #599377 |
Maple Loops says The fact of the bb is without question. As to the initial conditions > the question may be irrelevant or unanswerable. Suffice it to say > that the big bang has ALWAYS been banging. There exists nothing that is unquestionable. Period. Suffice banging nothing. --------- You can question the big bang all you like. I do on a weekly basis. However this in no way negates is reality as confirmed by many experiments and observations. The fact that there is no cause, no 'before', is only concerning to those with small, unimaginative, undisciplined minds. You, BJ, John and a few others insist upon a religious/paranormal start to the universe.... That's just silly
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-04 08:31 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <355f806f-eb9e-4cf8-9387-c85723963ef8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #599379 |
HVAC SAid " The fact that there is no cause, no 'before', is only concerning to those with small, unimaginative, undisciplined minds. You, BJ, John and a few others insist upon a religious/paranormal start to the universe.... That's just silly " You are the one trying to conceive of a Beginning of the Universe. That's just silly. The Universe has Always Been.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-04 10:57 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nt0jh4$1cnv$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #599390 |
On 10/4/2016 10:31 AM, john wrote: > HVAC SAid > " > The fact that there is no cause, no 'before', is only concerning to > those with small, unimaginative, undisciplined minds. You, BJ, John > and a few others insist upon a religious/paranormal start to the > universe.... That's just silly " > > You are the one trying to conceive > of a Beginning of the Universe. > That's just silly. > > The Universe has Always Been. You make these proclamations, John, with ZERO evidence. The statement "The Universe has Always Been" is not consistent with experimental data, nor is it consistent with religious traditions and lore. There is literally NOTHING you can point to, except your own navel, that would suggest that "The Universe has Always Been." So when you make these pronouncements and you can't say why you believe them, doesn't this shake you up at all? -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-04 09:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3305d5dc-143a-4dc9-ad72-2d4060859b76@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #599398 |
Odd " So when you make these pronouncements and you can't say why you believe them, doesn't this shake you up at all? " When you propose a Time of No Universe: what is your evidence for that?
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-04 11:24 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nt0l3l$1fn5$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #599401 |
On 10/4/2016 11:04 AM, john wrote: > Odd > " > > So when you make these pronouncements and you can't say why you believe > them, doesn't this shake you up at all? > " > When you propose a Time of No Universe: That's not what's proposed. > what is your evidence for that? Lots of things, but the most compelling of these is the fact that as a general trend, things that are only gravitationally bound are getting further apart and have been for several billion years. Notice that we know not only that they are getting further apart NOW, but that they were also getting further apart a million years ago, and also getting further apart a billion years ago. How do we know that? Because light does not travel infinitely fast, and so the further we look, the further back in time we are looking. What we have in astronomy is a time machine into the past, where we can look at how things were a long time ago, just by capturing images that have been traveling a very long time. So if things have been getting further apart for a long time, with a well measured expansion profile, then you also know when everything was on top of each other. There is a definite date for that in the past. This doesn't mean that there was NOTHING before. What it does mean is that the Universe as we see it now wasn't anything like what it was back then. Thus it is a foolish statement to say "The Universe has Always Been". You might as well say "Humanity has Always Been" when there is absolutely no evidence for it and an abundance of evidence that humanity has NOT always been. I'll finish here with a simple observation that the fact that YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND the Big Bang is NOT EVIDENCE that there was never a Big Bang. The world does not merely consist of things you understand, John. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-04 12:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <61e4a557-83a3-4140-a585-1c6981e7e661@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #599408 |
Odd said "es that have been traveling a very long time. So if things have been getting further apart for a long time, with a well measured expansion profile, then you also know when everything was " You are so simplistic. Billions of years is a blink of a blink in Universal time. You're a loveable scmuck, Oddball
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-04 13:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7b6b224a-bf67-4ea8-ad98-4bc9ae28f13e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #599425 |
john HVAC "y. "Once upon a time, shit happened" I know you hate it. Lol good " I hate stupid. ------- It was a rhetorical sarcastic quote. We don't know that it only happened once and of course time itself began with the big bang. That's why i just like "shit happens" It's as good as any other ideas I've heard. We don't know. Boo hoo
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-04 16:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <492015d9-3977-41ca-a425-02c89dbf0f96@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #599428 |
HVAC "on't know that it only happened once and of course time itself began with the big bang. " Well, if ya gotta have an answer, I suppose it might as well be an idiotic one. Good for you.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2016-10-05 00:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nt1hv6$fd9$2@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #599474 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Well, if ya gotta have an answer, >I suppose it might as well be >an idiotic one. So that's your excuse for all your fractarded spinny thing posts?
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-05 13:14 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nt3ft1$1rgi$9@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #599425 |
On 10/4/2016 2:28 PM, john wrote: > Odd said > "es that have been traveling a very long time. > > So if things have been getting further apart for a long time, with a > well measured expansion profile, then you also know when everything was " > > You are so simplistic. > Billions of years is a blink of a blink > in Universal time. What is this "Universal time", John? It seems as fanciful as ten spatial dimensions, doesn't it? What is that you say? "Everyday common sense tells you there are three dimesions." (John Sefton) Oh, so this imagined "Universal time" -- what part of everyday common sense does that come from? What is that you say? "Some things are taken on faith." Is that what you say, John? Let me ask you a simple question, John. 13.8 billion years ago, everything in the observable universe was on top of each other. This we know from observations and simply tracking back. When everything is on top of each other, everything was incredibly dense and incredibly hot, far beyond any energy scales where our knowledge of the laws of physics hold. What explains this expansion in a way that matches measurement six ways to Sunday is a theory that says the expansion is in space and time itself, whether this makes sense to you or not. (A reminder that just because you don't understand it, doesn't make it nonsense. There's a TON of stuff you don't understand.) So here's the question: Explain how this "Universal time" accounts for the big thing that was going on 13.8 billion years ago in any way. > You're a loveable scmuck, Oddball > -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2016-10-05 17:48 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <57f57556$0$1236$c3e8da3$1cbc7475@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #599555 |
On 10/5/2016 2:14 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote: > On 10/4/2016 2:28 PM, john wrote: >> Odd said >> "es that have been traveling a very long time. >> >> So if things have been getting further apart for a long time, with a >> well measured expansion profile, then you also know when everything was " >> >> You are so simplistic. >> Billions of years is a blink of a blink >> in Universal time. > > What is this "Universal time", John? It seems as fanciful as ten spatial > dimensions, doesn't it? What is that you say? "Everyday common sense > tells you there are three dimesions." (John Sefton) Oh, so this imagined > "Universal time" -- what part of everyday common sense does that come > from? What is that you say? "Some things are taken on faith." Is that > what you say, John? > > Let me ask you a simple question, John. 13.8 billion years ago, > everything in the observable universe was on top of each other. This we > know from observations and simply tracking back. When everything is on > top of each other, everything was incredibly dense and incredibly hot, > far beyond any energy scales where our knowledge of the laws of physics > hold. What explains this expansion in a way that matches measurement six > ways to Sunday is a theory that says the expansion is in space and time > itself, whether this makes sense to you or not. (A reminder that just > because you don't understand it, doesn't make it nonsense. There's a TON > of stuff you don't understand.) So here's the question: Explain how this > "Universal time" accounts for the big thing that was going on 13.8 > billion years ago in any way. > >> You're a loveable scmuck, Oddball Boinker you schmuck, 13.8 billion years is a big fat mistake generated by assuming that red shift is due to velocity. It's not. This makes that number nonsense. Nonsense needs no explanation.
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