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Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire!

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  Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-07-02 13:59 -0700
    Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 05:05 -0700
      Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 06:42 -0700
        Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 11:57 -0700
          Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 15:56 -0700
            Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-05 01:50 +0000
              Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 06:12 -0700
                Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-05 13:49 +0000
                  Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 08:52 -0500
    DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> - 2016-07-03 09:05 -0700
      DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 13:48 -0700
        Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-07-03 14:07 -0700
          Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 14:36 -0700
            Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 20:16 -0700
              Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-06 16:51 -0500
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-07-07 12:47 -0700
                  Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 17:29 -0700
                  Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 20:13 -0700
                    Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-08 04:12 +0000
                      Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 06:59 -0700
                        Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 09:50 -0500
                        Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-08 14:50 +0000
                          Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 10:02 -0500
                            Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 10:35 -0700
                              Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 13:13 -0500
                                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 11:57 -0700
                                  Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 14:28 -0500
                                  Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-08 20:27 +0000
                                  Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 15:33 -0500
                                    Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 15:42 -0500
                                      Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 16:27 -0700
                                        Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 08:17 -0500
                                          Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 07:22 -0700
                                            Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 10:35 -0700
                                              Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 16:49 -0700
                                              Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 16:52 -0700
                                                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 04:41 -0700
                                                  Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 04:55 -0700
                                                    Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:22 -0700
                                                      Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:39 -0700
                                                        Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 08:30 -0500
                                                          Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 07:02 -0700
                                                            Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 09:17 -0500
                                                              Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 07:44 -0700
                                                                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 10:03 -0500
                                                                  Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 10:25 -0700
                                                                    Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 12:31 -0500
                                                                      Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 10:56 -0700
                                                                        Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 11:40 -0700
                                                                          Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 13:48 -0500
                                                                            Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 13:55 -0700
                                                                              Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 16:36 -0500
                                                                                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 17:12 -0700
                                            Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-10 17:58 +0000
                                            Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 08:24 -0500
                                              Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 07:09 -0700
                                                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 07:48 -0700
                                                  Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 11:00 -0500
                                                    Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 09:12 -0700
                                                      Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 11:29 -0500
                                                        Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 11:21 -0700
                                                          Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 13:51 -0500
                                                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 10:16 -0500
                            Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-08 20:39 +0000
        Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-04 03:42 +0000
          Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-04 17:50 +0000
          Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 11:05 -0700
            Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 13:35 -0500
          Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 06:48 -0700
          Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-07 20:23 -0500
      Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-07-03 14:06 -0700
    Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 16:27 -0700
      Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-07-08 21:41 -0700
      Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-07-09 12:52 -0700
        Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-09 21:19 +0000
      Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-10 13:14 -0500

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#588784 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-11 11:21 -0700
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<948780ad-720f-4282-812d-edc3c30344ae@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588772
Oddtard:
"In the law of evidence, the dying declaration is testimony that would normally be barred as hearsay but may in common law nonetheless be admitted as evidence in Criminal law trials because it constituted the last words of a dying person. The rationale, accurate or not, is that someone who is dying or believes death to be imminent would have less incentive to fabricate testimony, and as such, the hearsay statement carries with it some reliability."

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#588791 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-11 13:51 -0500
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<nm0pqq$rct$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#588784
On 7/11/2016 1:21 PM, john wrote:
> Oddtard:
> "In the law of evidence, the dying declaration is testimony that would normally
> be barred as hearsay but may in common law nonetheless be admitted as evidence
> in Criminal law trials because it constituted the last words of a dying person.
> The rationale, accurate or not, is that someone who is dying or believes death
> to be imminent would have less incentive to fabricate testimony, and as such, the
> hearsay statement carries with it some reliability."
>

Cite your references, John. To do otherwise is dishonest.

 From your same wikipedia article, by the way:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying_declaration#In_the_United_States

"Under the Federal Rules of Evidence,[4] a dying declaration is 
admissible if the proponent of the statement can establish ALL [emph. 
mine] of the following:

     The declarant’s statement is being offered in a criminal 
prosecution for homicide, or in a civil action. Some states also permit 
the admission of dying declarations in other types of case.[citation needed]
     The declarant is unavailable – this can be established using FRE 
804(a)(1)-(5).
     The declarant's statement was made while under the genuine belief 
that his death was imminent. The declarant does not have to actually die.
     The declarant's statement relates to the cause or circumstances of 
what he believed to be his impending death."

Also see 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying_declaration#Criticism_of_Dying_Declaration_Doctrine

"As early as the 1800s, critics questioned the credibility of dying 
declarations. In a state court case, the Wisconsin Supreme Court 
considered the issue of a dying declaration. The defense pointed out 
that “[t]his kind of evidence is not regarded with favor.” [6] The 
defense argued that several factors could undermine the reliability of 
dying declarations.

     Physical or mental weakness consequent upon the approach of death, 
a desire of self-vindication, or a disposition to impute the 
responsibility for a wrong to another, as well as the fact that the 
declarations are made in the absence of the accused, and often in 
response to leading questions and direct suggestions, and with no 
opportunity for cross-examination: all these considerations conspire to 
render such declarations a dangerous kind of evidence.
     — Aviva Orenstein, Her Last Words: Dying Declarations and Modern 
Confrontation Jurisprudence, 2010 U. Ill. L. Rev. 1411, 1460 (2010)[7]"





-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#588759 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-11 10:16 -0500
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<nm0d7r$4o6$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#588755
On 7/11/2016 9:09 AM, john wrote:
> Odd
> Are you retarded?
> Bushman stated that he was given
> a PICTURE, and TOLD it was
> of an alien.
> He was also given crystal shards that
> provided electricity.
> He was also given material that,
> when interposed between a scale and
> the ground, changed the weight read out.
> All those things he WAS TOLD came from
> alien ships that were recovered.

And so NONE of his statements are anything more than hearsay, something 
he heard someone else tell him.
And so his relating this hearsay makes his a credible or convincing 
testimony of WHAT, exactly?

>
> Show me where he says he, personally,
> SAW the alien.
> You are SO devious, Oddtard
>

Exactly! So he never saw an alien, never had any direct contact with 
ANYTHING alien, and so his testimony is worthless hearsay. And since 
what he was shown (and he believed) to be an alien proved to be a toy, 
then anything he has to say about aliens are to be taken as the 
statements of a poor guy who got snookered into believing something that 
was a lie.

Now, the right thing to ask is this: If Boyd Bushman, a scientist, got 
snookered into believing a lie, then is it possible that other people 
would get snookered into believing a lie?

You may recall that during Orson Wells' famous radio broadcast of a 
Martian landing in New Jersey, there were dozens of people who believed 
it was really happening to the point where they reported smelling poison 
gas and hearing explosions in the distance. Of course, there was no 
poison gas and there were no explosions in the distance. But all those 
people BELIEVED they were smelling and hearing a real Martian invasion.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#588396 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-07-08 20:39 +0000
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<nlp31e$4l7$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#588344
Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> writes:

>On 7/8/2016 9:50 AM, Michael Moroney wrote:

>> Are you a Luddite?

>No, he's not a Luddite.

>He's using a computer, but it's Big Computer that is responsible for 
>viruses and loss of privacy.

>He drives a car, but it's Big Oil that's responsible for warfare and 
>depletion of natural resources.

>He eats non-Canadian fruits, but it's Big Agro that is responsible for 
>GMO and additives that keep the fruit fresh on its way to him.

>No, he's a big-time technology consumer, but it's not him that is 
>responsible for the problems, is it, John?

Yes, you are right. Not a Luddite, but still a science hater due
to his misplaced hate.

Also he lives in Canada, thus using lots of energy to live comfortably
in the winters there, thus supporting Big Oil/Big Coal/Big Fracked Gas.
(even if Canada has lots of land-flooding hydropower, he uses that power
which could otherwise displace Big Oil/Big Coal/Big Fracked Gas's
electricity)

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#587909 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-07-04 03:42 +0000
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<nlclvg$kkd$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#587849
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Because Jupiter is composed of
>EXACTLY THE SAME STUFF
>as Earth and the other planets,
>but its size is masking much of its
>actual mass, that spacecraft is going
>to encounter LOTS of problems.
>I predict a total loss.

Tell us how the Galileo spacecraft was a total loss because our inaccurate
estimate of its mass messed up the expected strength of its gravity.

Oh, don't forget all the successful flybys using Jupiter's gravity for
a boost.

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#587950 — Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-07-04 17:50 +0000
SubjectRe: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire
Message-ID<nle7l5$rjh$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#587909
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Michael
>The surface gravity of Jupiter is 2.4
>times that of Earth.
>It's radius is 10 times ours.

>Conclusion? Jupiter is mostly gases.

Yeah, so what?  With math and physics, we can compute Jupiter's mass
from the above two factoids, from that find its density, and find it
has a rather low density. From the low density (and many many other
observations) we can conclude Jupiter is mostly gas.

>Question. Why did Levy-Schumaker
>SPLASH? Why was that impact point
>still visible several rotations later?
>A McGinn "thick gas" hypothesis?

I have McGinn killfiled, so I don't know (or care) what the last
sentence means.

Anyway, a comet will hit Jupiter at a tremendous speed and have an
enormous energy.  Galileo struck Jupiter at some 30 miles per second.
(BTW, you didn't comment how the Galileo mission was such a
spectacular failure)

Between striking Jupiter with enormous energy and digging up
whatever lower layers of Jupiter are made of, I am not too
surprised that impact points can remain visible for a long
time. I wonder how long Earth's "dinosaur killer" impact was
visible from space.

>If gravity is LeSagian, then

all the Jupiter flybys wouldn't have worked, as the incorrect
model of gravity used by NASA would have sent the spacecraft
on the wrong paths.

Galileo itself had a complex flyby sequence to even reach
Jupiter, first Venus, then Earth then Earth again, so it
would have never even reached Jupiter if our model of
gravity was wrong.  So is that the reason Galileo didn't
fail spectacularly upon reaching Jupiter, it never could
have even made it there?

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#587955 — Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-04 11:05 -0700
SubjectJuno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire
Message-ID<26379da5-b27e-446d-8616-8f816e659224@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#587909
Or is surface gravity
MUCH more than 2.4?

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#587965 — Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-04 13:35 -0500
SubjectRe: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire
Message-ID<nlea8q$1cos$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#587955
On 7/4/2016 1:05 PM, john wrote:
> Or is surface gravity
> MUCH more than 2.4?
>

No, it's just about 2.4 times that of earth. I think it's 24.8 m/s^2 
which is to be compared to 9.8 m/s^2

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#587963 — Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-04 06:48 -0700
SubjectJuno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire
Message-ID<2711d4af-af28-4dc7-b197-f1077cebb6e7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#587909
Michael
The surface gravity of Jupiter is 2.4
times that of Earth.
It's radius is 10 times ours.

Conclusion? Jupiter is mostly gases.

Question. Why did Levy-Schumaker
SPLASH? Why was that impact point
still visible several rotations later?
A McGinn "thick gas" hypothesis?

If gravity is LeSagian, then regular rock
will approach a LIMIT, dictated by Space,
and that limit appears to be approaching,
if a planet 1000 times our volume only
has a surface gravity of 2.4 times ours.

What will be the configuration?
It will be 2.4 far above the surface, also,
not?

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#588314 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-07-07 20:23 -0500
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<nlmvbo$1jd2$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#587909
On 7/3/2016 10:42 PM, Michael Moroney wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>> Because Jupiter is composed of
>> EXACTLY THE SAME STUFF
>> as Earth and the other planets,
>> but its size is masking much of its
>> actual mass, that spacecraft is going
>> to encounter LOTS of problems.
>> I predict a total loss.

> Tell us how the Galileo spacecraft was a total loss because our inaccurate
> estimate of its mass messed up the expected strength of its gravity.
>
> Oh, don't forget all the successful flybys using Jupiter's gravity for
> a boost.
>

the antenna got stuck because it was stored for 8 years, and the 
lubricant got sticky.  Some guys I worked with designed the rad hard 
memory for it.


from the Wiki;

Galileo was an American unmanned spacecraft that studied the planet 
Jupiter and its moons, as well as several other Solar System bodies. 
Named after the astronomer Galileo Galilei, it consisted of an orbiter 
and entry probe. It was launched on October 18, 1989, carried by Space 
Shuttle Atlantis, on the STS-34 mission. Galileo arrived at Jupiter on 
December 7, 1995, after gravitational assist flybys of Venus and Earth, 
and became the first spacecraft to orbit Jupiter. It launched the first 
probe into Jupiter, directly measuring its atmosphere.[3] Despite 
suffering major antenna problems, Galileo achieved the first asteroid 
flyby, of 951 Gaspra, and discovered the first asteroid moon, Dactyl, 
around 243 Ida. In 1994, Galileo observed Comet Shoemaker–Levy 9's 
collision with Jupiter.[3]

Jupiter's atmospheric composition and ammonia clouds were recorded, the 
clouds possibly created by outflows from the lower depths of the 
atmosphere. Io's volcanism and plasma interactions with Jupiter's 
atmosphere were also recorded. The data Galileo collected supported the 
theory of a liquid ocean under the icy surface of Europa, and there were 
indications of similar liquid-saltwater layers under the surfaces of 
Ganymede and Callisto. Ganymede was shown to possess a magnetic field 
and the spacecraft found new evidence for exospheres around Europa, 
Ganymede, and Callisto.[3] Galileo also discovered that Jupiter's faint 
ring system consists of dust from impacts on the four small inner moons. 
The extent and structure of Jupiter's magnetosphere was also mapped.[3]

On September 21, 2003, after 14 years in space and 8 years in the Jovian 
system, Galileo's mission was terminated by sending it into Jupiter's 
atmosphere at a speed of over 48 kilometers (30 mi) per second, 
eliminating the possibility of contaminating local moons with 
terrestrial bacteria.

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#587853 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2016-07-03 14:06 -0700
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<14800b05-0e5f-440c-bbc5-31a8c0af30b1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#587813
On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 9:05:03 AM UTC-7, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote:
> On 7/2/2016 1:59 PM, Double-A wrote:
> > http://www.space.com/33331-juno-probe-jupiter-radiation-environment.html
> >
> > Arriving at Jupiter on the 4th, it will begin year long observations of the planet.
> >
> > Double-AssHole
> >
> 
> Nutin' like reportin' the fuskin' news.
> LOLK


Hey Chicken Colonel, now that Sam has retired, somebody's got to do it.

Double-A

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#588424

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-08 16:27 -0700
Message-ID<63916483-09a6-44a5-bcfa-4652c8759193@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#587682
On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 1:59:58 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote:
> http://www.space.com/33331-juno-probe-jupiter-radiation-environment.html
> 
> Arriving at Jupiter on the 4th, it will begin year long observations of the planet.  
> 
> Double-A

Crazy stuff coming out of different religions create hate .Thus wars. Killing for Alah is now reality.More of humans have been killed in the name of God.Hitler comes to mind in my time.Create hate is what starts wars  TreBert

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#588447

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2016-07-08 21:41 -0700
Message-ID<nlpvcb$s9b$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#588424
<herbertglazier0@gmail.com> "reber g=emc^2" Warmonger Glazier wrote:
 > Crazy stuff coming out of different religions create hate .
> Thus wars. Killing for Alah is now reality.More of humans have 
> been killed in the name of God.Hitler comes to mind in my time.
> Create hate is what starts wars. So said  
> Tre:B::ert who wrote
:B:: "Israel will drop its first H-bomb 'David' ". TreBert
:B:: __"I'm glad when war breaks out"__ Bert
>
... and why so, becomes clear as soon as.....
>
<herbertglazier0@gmail.com> Glazier whose g=emc^2 is
short for "Glazier Exhibits Micro Cephalic Cretinism", is Bert,
Trebert, Treb or reber, the loud mouth, the Jewish Jailbird, the
Hatemonger, Liar, schizoid mental cripple, Pervert Face-Shitter,
criminal Graveyard vandal, Bigot, Racist, War-monger &
Communist :B::ert Glazier who introduces himself with/as....
>
:B:: "I am a proud Jew with a Superiority complex &
:B:: an IQ of 122", & "I do know how everything works,.."
:B:: "My Grandfathers had tails". -- Trebert
:B:: "Being Jewish I know this is so very true" -- Bert.
:B:: "I'm a non-bible(torra) Jew. I'm the only Jew that
:B:: got 2 form letters from two Popes". Bert
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
 >
:B:: "I'll be sitting on Benj's, Saul Levi's & HVAC's face
:B:: to take a shit & say: "Open your mouth wide".
:B:: "Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And laugh".
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
>
:B:: "I'm M&M's Clueless Fuck-faced turd".Bert.
:B:: I'm "Siegman Fraud", "Bert, the Bowel Movement".
:B:: "I gave G=EMC^2 (wrong & stolen) to the world"
:B:: "Israel will drop its first H-bomb 'David' ". TreBert
:B:: __"I'm glad when war breaks out"__ Bert
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
 >
:B:: "Even the FBI has me as a trouble maker and
:B:: the FBI blocks my phone from calling them. "....
:B:: cuz "I was mixing sulfur, carbon & iron together
:B:: to make gun powder" ... & "while I was in custody
:B:: of Osceola Sheriff Bob Hansel, for thieving, his
:B:: deputies beat the shit out of me. So I bought a
:B:: 357 magnum for death threats by Sheriff Bob.
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
 >
about which ....
Moderator General "HVAC" <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> aka
"Richard A." aka Harlow Campbell wrote:
>
"Bert, your opinion doesn't count"
"a trained cockroach is smarter than Bert"
"Bert, you are a clueless cocksucker"....
"Bert you are senile, dazed & confused"
"Bert, you are Fucked in the head.
>
"Bert is a racist. (And he's stupid too)"
"TreBert, you are one stupid cocksucker".
"Bert, Seriously. You are the stupidest cocksucking
moron who ever came down the Mass Pike."
"Bert, does your stupidity know no bounds?"
>
"Bert, you really are a pathetic excuse for a human
fucking being". "Bert you are an idiot."
"Bert, are the stupidest cocksucker on the planet."
"Spin THIS, Glazier, you fucking idiot." "Bert get
some spelling lessons, you feeble-minded fuck".
>
"Bert, you should be arrested"
"Bert, I will call the police and tell them that your
van seems to be a center for drug activity in the
Wal-Mart parking lot"... .... .... about which....
 >
Glazier's ex-tutor Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
"Glazier, do not post in a science newsgroup."
"Glazier, quit posting __ your Gutter Science__."
"Glazier, exit USENET. -- IOW Glazier, beat it!."
>
"Glazier, your science is far worse than the man's on the street."
"Glazier, your postings are old man's garbage."
"Glazier, your brain is entangled with a used garbage can."
>
"reber, take your 'you know it all thinking' to your grave" .
"reber, your horseshit gets old. Say hi to Allah for me.:
"reber, you don't believe in science."
>
Aviator Jim Pennino jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
Glazier, you are a spamming piece of shit...
Your Cocaine usage explains a lot of your posts.
You are drunk again. Give up and kill yourself.
 >
Astrophysicist "Saul Levy" <saullevy1@cox.net> wrote:
>
GLAZIER YOU ARE A LAMEbrain PIECE OF SHIT!
Saul Levy
>
Rocket Scientist Virdy "Mahipal" <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote:
>
I know, you reber are an idiot. Glazier, you are babbling
desperately. Is it sympathy or pity you're grasping for?
Stop it, either way.
 >
benj" Ben Jacoby <nobody@gmail.com> wrote:
>
One only has to read Glazier's posts to see when Bert was lobotomized.
But Herb found poster "Double-A" who likes to be like Glazier,
but "Alkie-Alkie" is another kook who is as dumb as Bert is...
and promote that shitting into a bucket in a car is an achievement
that is a laudable accomplishment... and both being Communists
they demand entitlement to goods and services that were created
by hardworking people while they themselves drink, party and frolic!...
... still waiting "to be loved by all"...
>
hanson wrote:
So Glazier, given your Jewish Superiority complex and
your IQ of 122 and you knowing how how everything works,
... how come ended up shitting into a bucket in a 25 year
old Minnie Mouse van that you use as your residence
on Wal-Mart's Parking Lot? ..... .... What went wrong, Glazier?
 >
 "What are they gonna say when Swine Glazier dies? Are
they gonna say he was a kind man? He was a wise man?
He had plans? He has wisdom? .... BULLSHIT, MAN!"...
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TAixFYnDh4> [D]
BULLSHIT,... because Swine Glazier DOES have plans
which Glazier, the Full-Swine, announced and posted at
the ripe age of eighty (80) when Glazier became a criminal
Graveyard Vandal who wrote:
>
(1)
On 25Mar2008 Swine Glazier wrote in:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/3ffe7b2257cf8a9a
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/sci.physics/uYtpFTRnW4k/morPVyJ7_j8J
Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And have a good laugh
when it seeps down on your face. -- Bert.
 >
Glazier's geriatric decay worsened, along with Glazier's chronic
alcoholism and Glazier, the Olde Kacker, became a Coprophile
IOW Glazier became a filthy Face Shitter at his age of 86, which
Glazier proudly announced & posted...
 >
(2)
On 06Dec2014, when the Christian-Hater, Jew-Swine Glazier
said to "benj" <nobody@gmail.com>: Reality is you always
post under me for you are an ass kisser.
For Christmas I'll shit on your kisser.
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
Benj, you can thank me in advance. - TreBert. ... after
which...
 >
Glazier, the Criminal Graveyard Vandal & Face Shitter got even
worse over the next year and at Glazier's age of 87, Glazier
widened his piggish Face-shitting habit, as seen when Glazier
threatened...
 >
(3)
On 07Feb 2015 & on 08Feb2015, as Swine Glazier wrote:
Harlow HVAC, Mr.HVAC@gmail.com, Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net
& Jacoby Benj, <nobody@gmail.com>:
"I'll be sitting on your face to take a shit & say: "Open wide".
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
after...
>
(4)
The Criminal Swine Glazier refused to stop his practices & rejected
to be taken down, because Glazier at his age of 87+, Swine Glazier
labeled himself as "Siegman Fraud" which is synonym with "Bowel-
movement, actually saying that __ "Glazier is a piece of shit"__.
who, to boot, also announced that Glazier is a Transvestite who dons
female dresses and a Sarah Palin mask, saying that he has "nice
legs"...
 >
hanson wrote:
Now Glazier, since you are a curse and an embarrassment, day-in
and day-out, to every Jew everywhere, has it dawned on you
sorry, geriatric Transie-Swine, that as soon as you have been
"put away and under" Google will remove ALL YOUR posts from
the USENET and the only thing that will remain and show your
legacy, is because:
 >
Glazier the Swine fortunately posted:
.... "hanson made me famous"....
 >
hanson wrote
So, Glazier you Swine, you should be grateful to me & not wish
me ill like you did above, in your sick hate mongering, since
it is only because of hanson, that Web searches show for:
>
--- Swine Glazier G=EMC^2 Cretin ----            27'833 hits & rising
--- reber g=emc^2 Face-shitter & Vandal ----   27'953 hits & rising
>
which is why  the mental cripple <http://tinyurl.com/Swine-Glazier>
badly needs to be administered to with
<http://tinyurl.com/G-EMC2-Recall-Therapy> ...
>
Now Glazier, you filthy Swine, "you will never be loved by all"
but incredibly, Glazier, you have a few groupies who love you,
and haved become, voluntarily,  your personal slaves of you,
Faceshitter Glazier, who demonstrate their worship & their
devotion to their master Glazier, by lying under & literally
shit-eating Glazier's turds:
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
such as:
>
=1=
Sefton "john" <johnsefton288@gmail.com> the delusional
vegetarian loud-mouth from Canuckistan's town of Regina
is under the influence of his Lysergic- and  Solanine
contaminated diet and so Sefton lays himself with gusto
under Face-shitter Glazier's Sphincter and enjoys eating
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
and Sefton is impressed also with the Hate-mongering of
>
=2=
<clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> is Iran's Glazier.
The Freak Muslime Mehram Maleki, HATES Western
culture & the USA, yet Maldrecki lays himself UNDER
the Sphincter of Face shitter Jew Glazier who bragged
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
to have _"PFM"_= "Poop For Maleki", which the gay, Iranian
Muslime, Maldrecki, consumed until he turned black
& posted his <http://tinyurl.com/Maleki-Mehram-Selfie>
>
Then the 88 Year old Glazier announced that "Glazier is a
Transvestite who dons female dresses & a Sarah Palin mask,
saying that he has "nice legs"... which so impressed Maldrecki
that Maleki showed his devotion and solidarity by going LGBT
& had a Sex change operation, whose result she posted in
<http://tinyurl.com/Maleki-the-TG-Girl>.
>
=3=
"AA" <double-a3@hush.com> "Abner Afterduft" the "Alcoholic
Addict" doubles as <nobody@home.invalid> "Anon E. Mouse"
or Anon Y. Mouse", "Anon Yidd Mouse" who does NOT mind
that Full-swine Glazier is a Face shitter and a criminal Grave
yard vandal who never recanted nor apologized for that. -- 
>
Aux contraire, Yidd Mouse, the Kike, comes to the defense &
 aid of Full Swine Glazier's criminality, & worse, the Jewish Pig
"Anon Yidd Mouse" curses folks that point at Glazier's behavior,
which makes Yidd Mouse to be a perfect example of the lurid
"Closeness" which the eminent Jewish Scholar Harold Wallace
Rosenthal ||R:|| describes in his epic
<http://tinyurl.com/The-HW-Rosenthal-interview-XT>
wherein it says:
||R:|| We Jews have a solidarity & a closeness to
||R:|| fellow Jews like none other in the world.
||R:|| We Jews are always 'as one' when it counts.
>
||R:|| It's no secret that we Jews do not respect
||R:|| you gentiles. All of you are our enemies.
||R:|| Our Jewish beliefs are entirely different from yours.
||R:|| Our Talmud/Nedarim/Kol Nidre = "all vows" allows
||R:|| us Jews to lie, subvert and cheat you, the Goyim
>
=4=
Strangely, the Austrian Hitleryouth Halbmutt Wabnigger,
<hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> sides with Glazier too, but said:
____   "Jews are a residue of failed evolution" _______
>
=5=
Jeff-Relf.Me <@.>, the "Rectal Vacuumist (Seattle) is a criminal
Child-support dead-beat who greedily sucks turds out of Glazier's
sphincter, especially when they are Methamphetamine preloaded
as seen when Jeff-Relf.Me <@.>::JR:: wrote:
::JR:: I no longer want sex anymore.  I  masturbate. I've found  that
::JR:: all these erections & masturbations can irratate my prostate.
::JR:: My problem mostly happens a few hours before I want to
::JR:: wake up, so I can't take Sudafed.
::JR:: Ejaculation is a mind-altering drug, no better than heroin
::JR:: or meth.    So I've recently vowed to not masturbate...
::JR:: I use my left hand to smoke, masturbate and to type ...
::JR:: Does that make me smart ? --  I'd rather masturbate.
::JR:: She likes to squirt meth up her rear ( it makes her cum).
::JR:: but pussy is the last thing I want.
::::::: (cuz Relf is apparently interested now, with his "mouth wide
:::::::  open", to let Swine Glazier shit into Relf's "kisser")
::JR:: My dreams, however, have been semi-erotic as of late..."
>
=6=
... and even earlier, ironically, signed up was kike "Bodaisky",
who lied and claimed to be "Bo Dai" from China, but swas
in fact "Fabian Russell" <root@localhost.localdomain> aka
"Fagie Bodaisky", who lives off the tips he gets from being
a rest-room attendant in a NY Bath house for gay Jews.
>
=7=
"Andrew Vecsey" posting as <trudi.schwander@gmail.com>
is another stinky & filthy AshkeNAZI, a twatt to boot, who enjoys
spending her time under Glazier's Sphincter like the ones above.
Like those pigs s/he does NOT mind that Jew Glazier is bragging
to be a Face shitter and a criminal Grave yard vandal, but
s/he objects and groans when that is pointed out & comes
runnning to defend and side with Full-Swine Glazier, just like
seen in =3= & <http://tinyurl.com/The-HW-Rosenthal-interview-XT>
>
>
This bizarre perversion is well documented as seen here in:
<http://tinyurl.com/magnum-opus-the-rectal-jew>
<https://theendofzion.com/the-fecal-fixation-of-the-chosen-ones/>
<https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=jewish+cop



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#588519

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2016-07-09 12:52 -0700
Message-ID<121b8bef-6ce2-4ffb-b56c-54dbbf32fd1b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588424
On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 4:27:43 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 1:59:58 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote:
> > http://www.space.com/33331-juno-probe-jupiter-radiation-environment.html
> > 
> > Arriving at Jupiter on the 4th, it will begin year long observations of the planet.  
> > 
> > Double-A
> 
> Crazy stuff coming out of different religions create hate .Thus wars. Killing for Alah is now reality.More of humans have been killed in the name of God.Hitler comes to mind in my time.Create hate is what starts wars  TreBert


I don't think Hitler killed in the name of God.  I don't think Hitler even believed in God!

Double-A

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#588534

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-09 21:19 +0000
Message-ID<6b685d-63r.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#588519
Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> wrote:

> I don't think Hitler killed in the name of God.  I don't think Hitler
> even believed in God!
> 

You could look it up:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler



-- 
Jim Pennino

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#588607

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-10 13:14 -0500
Message-ID<2mupu3fncakk.r5a7tnvnlpe1.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#588424
On Fri, 8 Jul 2016 16:27:40 -0700 (PDT), reber g=emc^2
wrote:

> Crazy stuff coming out of different religions create hate .Thus 
> wars. Killing for Alah is now reality.More of humans have been 
> killed in the name of God.Hitler comes to mind in my time.Create 
> hate is what starts wars  TreBert

I think what starts wars is the perceived inability of
a nation to decisively defend itself.  

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