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  Spin me john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-05-28 17:55 -0700
    Spin me john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-05-28 18:38 -0700
      Re: Spin me benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-29 00:20 -0400
        Re: Spin me john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-05-29 00:29 -0700
        Re: Spin me ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-05-29 13:05 -0500
          Re: Spin me "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-05-29 13:48 -0700
        Re: Spin me Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 09:11 -0500
          Re: Spin me moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-31 14:55 +0000
            Re: Spin me john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 08:03 -0700
              Re: Spin me moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-31 16:14 +0000
                Re: Spin me john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 10:31 -0700
                  Re: Spin me Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 13:52 -0500
                  Re: Spin me moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-31 19:15 +0000
            Re: Spin me HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 08:03 -0700
      Spin me HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-29 02:31 -0700
        Spin me john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-05-29 06:18 -0700
          Spin me HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-29 06:29 -0700
            Re: Spin me benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-29 12:50 -0400
    Re: Spin me "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-05-29 10:06 -0700

#581366 — Spin me

Around any axis you like.
You will always be able to tell
if I was spun left or right.
Same for electrons

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#581371

Spin me. Around my long axis would
be nice, with my head up, but any
axis will do. You will always be able
to differentiate between one spin or
the other. 
Now take the head up axis, rotate it
about its feet at 1, creating a disc that is
also precessing at 2, and you have a
+1/2 electron.
Take the head down electron, rotate it
about its feet at 1, creating a disc that
at the same time precesses at 2, and
you have a -1/2 electron.

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#581380

On 05/28/2016 09:38 PM, john wrote:
>
> Spin me. Around my long axis would
> be nice, with my head up, but any
> axis will do. You will always be able
> to differentiate between one spin or
> the other.
> Now take the head up axis, rotate it
> about its feet at 1, creating a disc that is
> also precessing at 2, and you have a
> +1/2 electron.
> Take the head down electron, rotate it
> about its feet at 1, creating a disc that
> at the same time precesses at 2, and
> you have a -1/2 electron.

But John, Odd says that electrons are "points" points of ZERO 
dimensions. You can't rotate nothing at all. Clearly quantum numbers 
can't exist for electrons. That's what physicists say.

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#581395

benj said:
"But John, Odd says that electrons are "points" points of ZERO 
dimensions. You can't rotate nothing at all. Clearly quantum numbers 
can't exist for electrons. That's what physicists say. "

CLEARLY, they're fucked, at that 'point'. :)

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#581527

On Sun, 29 May 2016 00:20:28 -0400, benj wrote:

> Odd says that electrons are "points" points of ZERO 
> dimensions.

Hehe :) Not much imagination there. It's all phase. 
-- 
    "Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And 
     have a good laugh when it seeps down on 
     your face."
                            - Bert

---
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#581564

"<clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> "ClutterFreak",
aka Mehram Maleki the Iranian USA hater, wrote:
"> Not much imagination there. It's all phase. 
> -- 
>    "Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And 
>     have a good laugh when it seeps down on 
>     your face."
>      - Maleki, who is UNDER Bert Glazier's Sphincter for getting
>       <http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
> 
> ---

hanson wrote:
Mehram, yesterday when you posted right after you took
your anti-psychotic meds you had  a brief period of lucidity
as is seen when you signed off on your few posts with
--
"My country is the country in which I can work for Iran."
                          - Ehsan Yarshater
>
So, Mehran, THAT was commendable, you standing up for 
your Iranian interests.... but apparently the grip of  the 
clutches from/by the dying & deranged 88 year old Jew 
<herbertglazier0@gmail.com> Glazier proved stronger...
>
Mehram, given your post-op state which you so proudly
posted in <http://tinyurl.com/Maleki-the-TG-Girl> it is a
shame that all your submissive love (a Muslim trait)  and 
your sacrifices that you made for Jew Glazier has not
even earned you single word of thanks from him. Pity...
... but thanks for the laughs.... ahahahahahanson
>

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#581836

On 5/28/2016 11:20 PM, benj wrote:
> On 05/28/2016 09:38 PM, john wrote:
>>
>> Spin me. Around my long axis would
>> be nice, with my head up, but any
>> axis will do. You will always be able
>> to differentiate between one spin or
>> the other.
>> Now take the head up axis, rotate it
>> about its feet at 1, creating a disc that is
>> also precessing at 2, and you have a
>> +1/2 electron.
>> Take the head down electron, rotate it
>> about its feet at 1, creating a disc that
>> at the same time precesses at 2, and
>> you have a -1/2 electron.
>
> But John, Odd says that electrons are "points" points of ZERO
> dimensions.

Electrons aren't discs. John is thinking that quantum mechanical spin is 
like the spin of a rotating disc. It's not.

> You can't rotate nothing at all.

Electrons aren't nothing. Volume is not a property mandatory for existence.

> Clearly quantum numbers
> can't exist for electrons. That's what physicists say.

Sure, quantum numbers can exist for electrons and that's in fact what 
physicists say. Doesn't make quantum mechanical spin the spin of a disc 
though.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#581858

Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> writes:

>Electrons aren't discs. John is thinking that quantum mechanical spin is 
>like the spin of a rotating disc. It's not.

Yes.  QM Spin doesn't have a macroscopic equivalant, although it does have
units of angular momentum like actual spin would. Any attempt to describe it
as a little disc or ball spinning on its axis is doomed to failure.

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#581863

It is a combination of THREE spins,
failure-predictor Michael 

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#581884

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>It is a combination of THREE spins,
>failure-predictor Michael 

Predicting your failure is too easy. I just have to see your name in the 
From: of a post and I already know you are about to fail.

(Fail #2: You still haven't figured out how to quote the relevant part of 
the post you are replying to)

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#581916

Read it or don't, Michael

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#581940

On 5/31/2016 12:31 PM, john wrote:
> Read it or don't, Michael
>

As for me, I'm happy to read your ideas, John. Usually, they're quite 
funny and completely disconnected from reality. But to your average 
comic-book reader or supermarket tabloid buyer, I'm sure your ideas 
might be quite popular.

Have you ever given thought to making a living writing for Weekly World 
News? I'm sure they'd eat up your story of being visited by alien police 
in a dream.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#581948

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Read it or don't, Michael

But I do. It's like when the railroad bridge over the canyon has collapsed,
and you see a train heading down the track toward it at over 100 mph. You
can't do anything to stop it, but how can you not watch?

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#581864

10:56 AMMichael Moroney
Odd Bodkin <bodk...@gmail.com> writes: 

>Electrons aren't discs. John is thinking that quantum mechanical spin is 
>like the spin of a rotating disc. It's not. 

Yes.  QM Spin doesn't have a macroscopic equivalant, although it does have 
units of angular momentum like actual spin would. Any attempt to describe it 
as a little disc or ball spinning on its axis is doomed to failure. 
-----------

Doomed he may be, but I bet John did more wild partying this weekend than anyone here.

Little pharma rules!

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#581399

john
Spin me. Around my long axis would 
be nice, with my head up, but any 
axis will do. You will always be able to differentiate between one spin or the other. 
------------

John has obviously gone past the little pharma stage. What you rolling with John?

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#581417

Papers

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#581421

john
Papers
----------

Well, don't get TOO fucked up John. You may start believing in ghosts like BJ does.

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#581487

On 05/29/2016 09:29 AM, HVAC wrote:
> john
> Papers
> ----------
>
> Well, don't get TOO fucked up John. You may start believing in ghosts like BJ does.
>
Oddly I've never said I believe in ghosts, but HVAC says he knows what 
people are thinking all the time. He actually believes he is God (cause, 
he'd never lie), right? right!

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#581497

On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 5:55:44 PM UTC-7, john wrote:
> Around any axis you like.
> You will always be able to tell
> if I was spun left or right.
> Same for electrons

No spin no electron TreBert

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