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30,000+ Year Old Humans In America?

Started byHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
First post2016-04-02 03:35 -0700
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  30,000+  Year Old Humans In America? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 03:35 -0700
    Re: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 13:40 +0200
      Re: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 05:15 -0700
        Re: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America? Bimpy <pimp@pimp.com> - 2016-04-02 12:32 +0000
          Re: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 05:39 -0700
            Re: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 12:42 -0400
        Re: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America? benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 11:28 -0400
          Re: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 08:50 -0700
            Re: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 09:00 -0700
              Re: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 13:31 -0400
    Re: 30,000+  Year Old Humans In America? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 12:33 -0400
    Re: 30,000+  Year Old Humans In America? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-04-02 13:48 -0700

#567404 — 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America?

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-02 03:35 -0700
Subject30,000+ Year Old Humans In America?
Message-ID<8c17dd69-c58b-4e01-a468-9d8c12e8c2ab@googlegroups.com>
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/28/world/americas/discoveries-challenge-beliefs-on-humans-arrival-in-the-americas.html?_r=0

I don't even know why but this fascinated me. I always thought people came into the Americas through Alaska 12,000 years ago.

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#567410 — Re: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America?

FromPoutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-02 13:40 +0200
SubjectRe: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America?
Message-ID<ndoasr$4ee$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#567404
Dne 02/04/2016 v 12:35 HVAC napsal(a):
> http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/28/world/americas/discoveries-challenge-beliefs-on-humans-arrival-in-the-americas.html?_r=0
> 
> I don't even know why but this fascinated me. I always thought people came into the Americas through Alaska 12,000 years ago.
> 
I have read somewhere there is timespan
since 40000 y. ago for coming to Alaska
till about 10000 for reaching Patagonia.


-- 
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )
Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.

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#567415 — Re: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America?

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-02 05:15 -0700
SubjectRe: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America?
Message-ID<1332085c-02f7-4ece-8baf-7c5ea15fe77c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#567410
Poutnik says
I have read somewhere there is timespan 
since 40000 y. ago for coming to Alaska 
till about 10000 for reaching Patagonia. 
--------------

These relatively new discoveries show evidence of humans in Brazil 2-3 times as long ago as the 12,000 years that I was taught. Lots of archeological evidence.

But what I want to see is the DNA evidence. With our ability to sequence human genomes, much of occult human history is becoming known.

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#567416 — Re: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America?

FromBimpy <pimp@pimp.com>
Date2016-04-02 12:32 +0000
SubjectRe: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America?
Message-ID<ndoe5n$16ji$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#567415
HVAC wrote:

> Poutnik says I have read somewhere there is timespan since 40000 y. ago
> for coming to Alaska till about 10000 for reaching Patagonia.
> --------------
> 
> These relatively new discoveries show evidence of humans in Brazil 2-3
> times as long ago as the 12,000 years that I was taught. Lots of
> archeological evidence.
> But what I want to see is the DNA evidence. With our ability to sequence
> human genomes, much of occult human history is becoming known.

You can't find DNA in fossil records, assfume.

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#567423 — Re: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America?

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-02 05:39 -0700
SubjectRe: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America?
Message-ID<c0a72491-f8e7-4736-ac49-e5f10d425d0d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#567416
Bumpy
- show quoted text -
You can't find DNA in fossil records, assfume. 
--------------

I was talking about living humans. 

BUT since you have the foolish notion that you can match wits with me, I'll just say that you are misinformed. We have successfully sequenced DNA over half a million years old.

How do you like me now?... Bitch.

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#567496 — Re: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America?

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-02 12:42 -0400
SubjectRe: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America?
Message-ID<MDSLy.2608$dC2.513@fx39.iad>
In reply to#567423
On 04/02/2016 08:39 AM, HVAC wrote:
> Bumpy - show quoted text - You can't find DNA in fossil records,
> assfume. --------------
>
> I was talking about living humans.
>
> BUT since you have the foolish notion that you can match wits with
> me, I'll just say that you are misinformed. We have successfully
> sequenced DNA over half a million years old.
>
> How do you like me now?... Bitch.
>
Actually Harlow exaggerates.

Fossil DNA is found in broken pieces that one sequences and then you
have to sort of "guess" how the pieces went together. You don't exactly
"successfully sequence" old DNA.

On the other hand, I fully support the idea of spending tax money on
building an adult science Jurassic Park. Breeding Raptors is so much
better than wasting billions hunting for Higgs or gravity waves!

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#567460 — Re: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America?

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-02 11:28 -0400
SubjectRe: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America?
Message-ID<56ffe518$0$62600$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#567415
On 04/02/2016 08:15 AM, HVAC wrote:
> Poutnik says
> I have read somewhere there is timespan
> since 40000 y. ago for coming to Alaska
> till about 10000 for reaching Patagonia.
> --------------
>
> These relatively new discoveries show evidence of humans in Brazil 2-3 times as long ago as the 12,000 years that I was taught. Lots of archeological evidence.
>
> But what I want to see is the DNA evidence. With our ability to sequence human genomes, much of occult human history is becoming known.

It's all fake, Harlow. Humans are only 3000 years old.

So you believe in the occult? Figures!

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#567464 — Re: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America?

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-02 08:50 -0700
SubjectRe: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America?
Message-ID<03290049-afad-40d2-85ad-fbb28df28907@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#567460
BJ quacked
So you believe in the occult? Figures! 
-----------

Of course I do BJ. The Overlords command it

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#567466 — Re: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America?

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-02 09:00 -0700
SubjectRe: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America?
Message-ID<57156482-3795-4afa-9fee-2a85149fdd18@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#567464
There is evidence that 12000 years ago
all life in North America was wiped
out by a blast of hot neutrons.
Pottery shards all over NE America
are riddled with tiny holes at that layer.

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#567510 — Re: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America?

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-02 13:31 -0400
SubjectRe: 30,000+ Year Old Humans In America?
Message-ID<WlTLy.310$9C2.236@fx37.iad>
In reply to#567466
On 04/02/2016 12:00 PM, john wrote:
> There is evidence that 12000 years ago
> all life in North America was wiped
> out by a blast of hot neutrons.
> Pottery shards all over NE America
> are riddled with tiny holes at that layer.
>
All the really GOOD artifacts go into the Smithsonian sub-basement never 
to be seen again.

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#567491

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-02 12:33 -0400
Message-ID<8vSLy.21871$Xr2.4759@fx08.iad>
In reply to#567404
On 04/02/2016 06:35 AM, HVAC wrote:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/28/world/americas/discoveries-challenge-beliefs-on-humans-arrival-in-the-americas.html?_r=0
>
> I don't even know why but this fascinated me. I always thought people came into the Americas through Alaska 12,000 years ago.
>
OF course you did because you know not science and believe all your own 
disinformation press releases.

The clovis hunter theory was a loser from the very start.
Half-baked scientists just start with a single fact and then use their 
fantasy to build it into a whole story which they then sell as "facts".

You know, HVAC, just like you do.
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#567552

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2016-04-02 13:48 -0700
Message-ID<553b8d50-14e8-4448-8eac-cf069b5e1726@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#567404
On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 3:35:45 AM UTC-7, HVAC wrote:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/28/world/americas/discoveries-challenge-beliefs-on-humans-arrival-in-the-americas.html?_r=0
> 
> I don't even know why but this fascinated me. I always thought people came into the Americas through Alaska 12,000 years ago.


The Clovis model is dead!  The earliest inhabitants of South America arrived from Australia and were negroid.  You can find lots of references to archaeological evidence pointing to this.   

Double-A

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