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  What is wrong? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 14:27 -0700
    Re: What is wrong? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 16:28 -0500
      Re: What is wrong? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 02:15 -0700
        Re: What is wrong? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 02:35 -0700
          Re: What is wrong? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 02:44 -0700
          Re: What is wrong? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 03:41 -0700
            Re: What is wrong? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 04:05 -0700
              Re: What is wrong? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 04:17 -0700
                Re: What is wrong? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 04:23 -0700
            Re: What is wrong? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 10:35 -0400
        Re: What is wrong? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 08:57 -0500
        Re: What is wrong? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-24 14:27 +0000
          Re: What is wrong? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 09:58 -0500

#564920 — What is wrong?

http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/BenzeneE.GIF

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#564922

On 3/23/2016 4:27 PM, john wrote:
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/BenzeneE.GIF
>

It doesn't explain any chemical properties of benzene. That's what's wrong.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#565061

Sure it does, Odd.
It is indistinguishable, one side from another,
which is why it doesn't matter where
you attach other atoms- making it a
good carrier.
THAT IS WHY I have shown it from
four views,  showing that any arbitrary 
FRONT and BACK are identical.

I have done this alon two lines of
view.

I am contemplating doing the same along
572 views by turning the whole ring over
slowly once as it goes 
FOUR TIMES
through the two
cycles that it needs to trade all 30 electrons,
(which requires 72 frames). (72 X 4 X 2).

And I will color ONE electron differently 
so you can see which side you're looking
from. And, in each case, as these
twelve atoms are all exchanging their
pairs and singles, the opposite
viewpoints shown ( top and bottom right
and top and bottom left)
WILL REMAIN IDENTICAL
through 288 frames (two lines of
view per frame).

This will take abou 10 minutes per frame,
or 48 hours.
Of my life.
As I look out at the lake ice going away.
Hey, Harlow, want to see a picture
of a 16 pound Walleye they just caught
out front here?

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#565063

https://www.facebook.com/michael.rivet.18/posts/1199630116732689
There you go, HVAC.
See how you've wasted your whole
fishing life on bass?

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#565065

Oh, sorry HVAC- none of those was
the 16-pounder

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#565077

There you go, HVAC. 
See how you've wasted your whole 
fishing life on bass? 
--------------

John, I've fished for close to 100 species of fish in my life. Biggest one I've ever reeled in personally is a 710 pound bluefin tuna.

And btw NO time fishing is wasted.

I'd bet that if I didn't go fishing so much I'd wind up as crazy as you or BJ.

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#565080

Well, HVAC, those are bass, too.
Canadian white.
Have to wear head coverings to stay
warm. A beard too, helps.
But gotta be careful these days.

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#565082

I will take my Benzene ring,
and as it goes through four complete
cycles of 72 frames each,
I will rotate it 1.25 degrees more around the
axis of my choice each frame.
It will complete a trade of all 30 of its
trading electrons every 90 degrees
until it comes full circle

Crazy, hey HVAC?

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#565083

john
I will take my Benzene ring, 
and as it goes through four complete 
cycles of 72 frames each, 
I will rotate it 1.25 degrees more around the 
axis of my choice each frame. 
It will complete a trade of all 30 of its 
trading electrons every 90 degrees 
until it comes full circle 

Crazy, hey HVAC? 
---------------

From your lips to god's ear

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#565115

On 03/24/2016 06:41 AM, HVAC wrote:
> There you go, HVAC.
> See how you've wasted your whole
> fishing life on bass?
> --------------
>
> John, I've fished for close to 100 species of fish in my life. Biggest one I've ever reeled in personally is a 710 pound bluefin tuna.
>
> And btw NO time fishing is wasted.
>
> I'd bet that if I didn't go fishing so much I'd wind up as crazy as you or BJ.
>
>
There are no fish. All fantasy.

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#565106

On 3/24/2016 4:15 AM, john wrote:
> Sure it does, Odd.
> It is indistinguishable, one side from another,
> which is why it doesn't matter where
> you attach other atoms- making it a
> good carrier.

I'm sorry, John, but I wasn't talking about symmetry. I was talking 
about chemical properties.

> THAT IS WHY I have shown it from
> four views,  showing that any arbitrary
> FRONT and BACK are identical.
>
> I have done this alon two lines of
> view.
>
> I am contemplating doing the same along
> 572 views by turning the whole ring over
> slowly once as it goes
> FOUR TIMES
> through the two
> cycles that it needs to trade all 30 electrons,
> (which requires 72 frames). (72 X 4 X 2).
>
> And I will color ONE electron differently
> so you can see which side you're looking
> from. And, in each case, as these
> twelve atoms are all exchanging their
> pairs and singles, the opposite
> viewpoints shown ( top and bottom right
> and top and bottom left)
> WILL REMAIN IDENTICAL
> through 288 frames (two lines of
> view per frame).
>
> This will take abou 10 minutes per frame,
> or 48 hours.
> Of my life.
> As I look out at the lake ice going away.
> Hey, Harlow, want to see a picture
> of a 16 pound Walleye they just caught
> out front here?
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#565112

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>I am contemplating doing the same along
>572 views by turning the whole ring over
>slowly once as it goes 
>FOUR TIMES
>through the two
>cycles that it needs to trade all 30 electrons,
>(which requires 72 frames). (72 X 4 X 2).
...
>This will take abou 10 minutes per frame,
>or 48 hours.
>Of my life.

If that's how you wish to waste your life, that's fine with me.

I would suggest reading a couple good science books instead so that
you can understand things.

Or, since you apparently hate science, perhaps you should drop your
lame attempts at science and take up poetry instead.  Or painting.
Paint your pretty lake.

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#565131

On 3/24/2016 9:27 AM, Michael Moroney wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I am contemplating doing the same along
>> 572 views by turning the whole ring over
>> slowly once as it goes
>> FOUR TIMES
>> through the two
>> cycles that it needs to trade all 30 electrons,
>> (which requires 72 frames). (72 X 4 X 2).
> ...
>> This will take abou 10 minutes per frame,
>> or 48 hours.
>> Of my life.
>
> If that's how you wish to waste your life, that's fine with me.
>
> I would suggest reading a couple good science books instead so that
> you can understand things.

I have suggested one by Isaac Asimov that is essentially all words and 
pictures, with a bare minimum of arithmetic. It is a very fast read and 
is available for only $12 from Amazon.

I think what we will discover is that John prefers to spend his time 
either with AutoCAD or on sci.physics, making posts about herpes and 
UFOs and government conspiracies and how useless and lost physics is, 
rather than actually learning anything about physics.

It would be like his hanging around my shop all day, ostensibly to learn 
something about woodworking, and instead talking about politics, 
religion, and how useless being a woodworker is. And he wouldn't ever 
take the hint that such behavior is really inappropriate in a 
woodworker's shop.

>
> Or, since you apparently hate science, perhaps you should drop your
> lame attempts at science and take up poetry instead.  Or painting.
> Paint your pretty lake.
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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