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  Black Holes are vortices in the Aether john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 00:46 -0800
    Black Holes are vortices in the Aether HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 02:50 -0800
    Re: Black Holes are vortices in the Aether Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 08:10 -0600
    Re: Black Holes are vortices in the Aether moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-10 14:13 +0000
      Re: Black Holes are vortices in the Aether john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 06:40 -0800
        Re: Black Holes are vortices in the Aether Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 08:49 -0600
          Re: Black Holes are vortices in the Aether john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 08:33 -0800
            Re: Black Holes are vortices in the Aether Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 10:58 -0600
              Re: Black Holes are vortices in the Aether HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 09:08 -0800
            Re: Black Holes are vortices in the Aether moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-10 17:33 +0000
              Re: Black Holes are vortices in the Aether john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 10:38 -0800
                Re: Black Holes are vortices in the Aether Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 12:50 -0600
                Re: Black Holes are vortices in the Aether moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-10 19:04 +0000
                  Re: Black Holes are vortices in the Aether john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 12:28 -0800
                    Re: Black Holes are vortices in the Aether Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 14:36 -0600
                    Re: Black Holes are vortices in the Aether HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 13:27 -0800
                    Re: Black Holes are vortices in the Aether moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-10 21:30 +0000
                      Re: Black Holes are vortices in the Aether john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 16:27 -0800
                        Re: Black Holes are vortices in the Aether moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-11 02:01 +0000
        Re: Black Holes are vortices in the Aether HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 07:25 -0800
          Re: Black Holes are vortices in the Aether benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 00:47 -0500
    Re: Black Holes are vortices in the Aether "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 12:29 -0800
      Re: Black Holes are vortices in the Aether "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-10 12:54 -0800

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#561085 — Black Holes are vortices in the Aether

There is no such thing as a "smallest" particle.
Reality is like Russian Dolls and
musical notes; the same patterns recur
again and again as one goes up or down
the size scale.
Atoms don't drift around 
in Nothingness in Space; they are immersed
in a sea of much smaller atoms (the
next smallest "Russian Doll", or the same
note but an octave higher). 
These smaller forms of energy- the next 
"layer" of matter, the aether- can travel
much faster than our matter. Where this
aether is in the form of a vortex, any
of our matter that gets sucked in will
be accelerated so fast that the repulsion
of their opposite magnetism will overcome 
their mutual attraction, and opposite
charges will blow apart- the matter
will shred into oppositely-directed
jets of high-energy particles (HEPs).

And that's how Black Holes work- 
you're welcome.

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#561100

John
And that's how Black Holes work- 
you're welcome. 
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No

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#561124

On 3/10/2016 2:46 AM, john wrote:
> There is no such thing as a "smallest" particle.
> Reality is like Russian Dolls and
> musical notes; the same patterns recur
> again and again as one goes up or down
> the size scale.
> Atoms don't drift around
> in Nothingness in Space; they are immersed
> in a sea of much smaller atoms (the
> next smallest "Russian Doll", or the same
> note but an octave higher).
> These smaller forms of energy- the next
> "layer" of matter, the aether- can travel
> much faster than our matter. Where this
> aether is in the form of a vortex, any
> of our matter that gets sucked in will
> be accelerated so fast that the repulsion
> of their opposite magnetism will overcome
> their mutual attraction, and opposite
> charges will blow apart- the matter
> will shred into oppositely-directed
> jets of high-energy particles (HEPs).
>
> And that's how Black Holes work-
> you're welcome.
>

And John, how does your idea help save mankind from self-destruction?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#561127

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>And that's how Black Holes work- 
>you're welcome.

John, your drool cup is overflowing.
you're welcome.

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#561131

All of this "aether", which is just the
next-smaller layer of matter in a Fractal
Universe, radiates energy when created
just like our matter releases neutrinos
when created.
This much-higher frequency, much faster-
traveling radiation- going in all directions-
is the ULTRAMUNDANE "particles"
required by LeSage Gravity.

Simple enough for school children and
barmaids, but Greek to Mikey, PD and
SamIAm

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#561135

On 3/10/2016 8:40 AM, john wrote:
> All of this "aether", which is just the
> next-smaller layer of matter in a Fractal
> Universe, radiates energy when created
> just like our matter releases neutrinos
> when created.

I'm not sure you know what creates neutrinos. Neutrinos are created when 
a quark decays into another quark, or when a lepton decays into another 
lepton. No matter is created here.

> This much-higher frequency, much faster-
> traveling radiation- going in all directions-
> is the ULTRAMUNDANE "particles"
> required by LeSage Gravity.
>
> Simple enough for school children and
> barmaids, but Greek to Mikey, PD and
> SamIAm
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#561154

Odd
Neutrinos are created and are everywhere.
How exactly,  you don't know,either. So step off

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#561160

On 3/10/2016 10:33 AM, john wrote:
> Odd
> Neutrinos are created and are everywhere.
> How exactly,  you don't know,either. So step off
>

John, people understand how neutrinos are created.
When a neutron decays into a proton, that's a down quark converting to 
an up quark by the emission of a W-, which in turn decays into a lepton 
and an antinueutrino, usually an electron and anti-electron-neutrino. 
This process is called beta decay and it's common in both radioisotope 
decays (like carbon 14) and in nuclear fusion processes (like in the sun).
Beta decay: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_decay
Stellar fusion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_nucleosynthesis
Likewise, there are decays of heavy charged leptons into lighter charged 
leptons, which involves the emission of neutrinos and antineutrino. A 
common example is a cosmic ray muon, which decays into a muon-neutrino, 
an electron, and an anti-electron-neutrino.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muon#Muon_decay
These are all examples of weak charged current interactions, and there 
are also weak neutral current interactions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutral_current

Just because YOU don't know stuff, doesn't mean that nobody knows it, 
John. All it means is that you haven't bothered to even try to look it 
up, and you feel therefore entitled to make shit up. Why you would do 
this and come off as an idiot on a PERSISTENT basis, is frankly beyond 
me. Why do you do it?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#561165

Odd Bodkin
Just because YOU don't know stuff, doesn't mean that nobody knows it, 
John. All it means is that you haven't bothered to even try to look it 
up, and you feel therefore entitled to make shit up. Why you would do 
this and come off as an idiot on a PERSISTENT basis, is frankly beyond 
me. Why do you do it? 
----------

Fractals. Ether. Russian nesting dolls. The woo is strong with John

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#561174

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Odd
>Neutrinos are created and are everywhere.
>How exactly,  you don't know,either. So step off

We know _exactly_ when and how neutrinos are created.  They are created
as part of a weak process interaction or weak decay.

It is you who doesn't know what they are.  You use the word "neutrino" to
name something of your own invention, something that has nothing to do 
with what physicists call neutrinos.  Hence my use of the term "word 
salad" to describe your writings.

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#561204

So what?
Neutrinos are produced by matter.

Does that mean DM doesn't produce
similar, as yet unidentified radiations
at a smaller scale? Prove it,
Asshole

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#561213

On 3/10/2016 12:38 PM, john wrote:
> So what?
> Neutrinos are produced by matter.

Right, but they don't create matter, as you claimed.

>
> Does that mean DM doesn't produce
> similar, as yet unidentified radiations
> at a smaller scale? Prove it,
> Asshole
>

This is in the category of untestable speculation.

The point being, you make an untestable speculation, in analogy with an 
incorrect statement about neutrinos, which you then claim nobody knows 
anything about. The further point being, it is foolish to chatter 
endlessly on a subject you know absofuckinglutely NOTHING about, but you 
seem to be driven to so anyway. Maybe you crave the flagellation.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#561222

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> tarded:

>So what?
>Neutrinos are produced by matter.

Only under very specific conditions.  For example, they are not constantly
being produced by electrons, or whatever TF it is you believe about them.

>Does that mean DM doesn't produce
>similar, as yet unidentified radiations
>at a smaller scale?

Until now, you were claiming that DM does't exist!  Does that mean you 
finally found a 6 year old to explain "invisible heavy stuff" to you?

> Prove it,

Can't prove a negative.

>Asshole

The sign of defeat, as the defeated one launches into personal attacks/
name calling.

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#561248

The sun gives off neutrinos.
Electrons give off similar, but way
 higher frequency, radiation.
Prove me wrong 

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#561252

On 3/10/2016 2:28 PM, john wrote:
> The sun gives off neutrinos.
> Electrons give off similar, but way
>   higher frequency, radiation.
> Prove me wrong
>

Give a TESTABLE and MEASURABLE prediction of your hypothesis.
The test should be reasonably feasible within the foreseeable future.

Every single physical theory on the planet -- including dark matter, 
quantum mechanics, and general relativity -- addresses this as a base 
expectation of science. You don't have any? Then it ain't even science.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#561267

John says
Atoms don't drift around 
in Nothingness in Space; they are immersed 
in a sea of much smaller atoms (the 
next smallest "Russian Doll", or the same 
note but an octave higher). 
These smaller forms of energy- the next 
"layer" of matter, the aether- can travel 
much faster than our matter. Where this 
aether is in the form of a vortex, any 
of our matter that gets sucked in will 
be accelerated so fast that the repulsion 
of their opposite magnetism will overcome 
their mutual attraction, and opposite 
charges will blow apart-
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Lol

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#561270

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> tarded:

>The sun gives off neutrinos.

Yes, so what? The sun constantly fuses hydrogen into deuterium via the
proton-proton reaction that involves the weak process to produce a
positron and neutrino.  Remember when I said "special circumstances"?
A dead star (white dwarf) doesn't produce any neutrinos because it does
not run the p-p chain or any other processes that produce beta-decaying
nuclei.

p + p -> d + e+ + ve.

The neutrino is necessary to conserve energy, momentum and lepton number.

>Electrons give off similar, but way
> higher frequency, radiation.

No, they don't.  An electron sits there until acted on.

>Prove me wrong 

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

You made the extraordinary claim, you provide the extraordinary evidence.

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#561325

Look for yourself

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#561354

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Look for yourself

I have enough to know that there is no evidence of that, and there are no
outstanding problems that would be solved even if there were such a thing,
and your ideas would violate several accepted laws of physics such as
conservation of energy/mass.  GR works just fine for gravity.

So, no evidence, no need, and would be broken anyway.  Fail.

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#561140

9:40 AMjohn
All of this "aether", which is just the 
next-smaller layer of matter in a Fractal 
Universe, radiates energy when created 
just like our matter releases neutrinos 
when created. 
---------

Jesus Christ John. No!

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