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  Study Says ‘Hydricity’ Could Boost the Use of Renewables Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 09:56 -0600
    Re: Study Says ‘Hydricity’ Could Boost the Use of Renewables gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-15 10:08 -0600
    Re: Study Says ‘Hydricity’ Could Boost the Use of Renewables jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-15 20:16 +0000
      Re: Study Says ‘Hydricity’ Could Boost the Use of Renewables gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-15 15:29 -0600
    Re: Study Says 'Hydricity' Could Boost the Use of Renewables dobri karagorgov <dobrikarate.gov@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 13:41 -0800
    Re: Study Says 'Hydricity' Could Boost the Use of Renewables "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 17:33 -0800

#539361 — Study Says ‘Hydricity’ Could Boost the Use of Renewables

Study Says ‘Hydricity’ Could Boost the Use of Renewables
> http://www.climatecentral.org/news/hydricity-could-boost-renewables-19810


> The hydricity process starts with water: Some is heated to a high
> temperature to produce electricity while the sun is shining. The rest
> is split into its parts — hydrogen and oxygen. The hydrogen is then
> stored so it can be burned in a power plant at night.
>
> “Basically, the technology holds the promise to provide electricity
> around the clock at unprecedented efficiencies and at a scale that is
> suitable for large cities, using solar energy and environmentally
> benign processes,” study co-author Rakesh Agrawal, a Purdue
> University chemical engineering professor, said.
>
> Hydricity uses hydrogen to produce electricity in a power plant in a
> way that resembles the way natural gas is used for that purpose
> today, but there’s a big difference: Hydrogen combustion, unlike
> natural gas combustion, produces only water, not greenhouse gases,
> Agrawal said.
>
> He said hydricity may be more efficient at producing electricity
> around the clock than batteries.


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#539366

On 12/15/2015 9:56 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Study Says ‘Hydricity’ Could Boost the Use of Renewables
>> http://www.climatecentral.org/news/hydricity-could-boost-renewables-19810
>
>
>> The hydricity process starts with water: Some is heated to a high
>> temperature to produce electricity while the sun is shining.

solar powered steam turbine?

>> The rest
>> is split into its parts — hydrogen and oxygen.

it takes a lot of energy to do that, and it comes from a liquid, so the 
gases have to be dryed.


>> The hydrogen is then
>> stored so it can be burned in a power plant at night.

so you release the O2, it requires special pipes and ventings.

you are using H2 as energy storage, it requires presurazation to avoid 
high cost of large volume tanks, that cannot be porous to H2, another 
energy sink.



>>
>> “Basically, the technology holds the promise to provide electricity
>> around the clock at unprecedented efficiencies and at a scale that is
>> suitable for large cities, using solar energy and environmentally
>> benign processes,” study co-author Rakesh Agrawal, a Purdue
>> University chemical engineering professor, said.


nothing new here, now go figure out the COSTS of each stage, and compair 
with the cost of energy storage by pumping water uphill to a resovour.

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#539431

Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Study Says ?Hydricity? Could Boost the Use of Renewables
>> http://www.climatecentral.org/news/hydricity-could-boost-renewables-19810
> 
> 
>> The hydricity process starts with water: Some is heated to a high
>> temperature to produce electricity while the sun is shining. The rest
>> is split into its parts ? hydrogen and oxygen. The hydrogen is then
>> stored so it can be burned in a power plant at night.
>>
>> ?Basically, the technology holds the promise to provide electricity
>> around the clock at unprecedented efficiencies and at a scale that is
>> suitable for large cities, using solar energy and environmentally
>> benign processes,? study co-author Rakesh Agrawal, a Purdue
>> University chemical engineering professor, said.
>>
>> Hydricity uses hydrogen to produce electricity in a power plant in a
>> way that resembles the way natural gas is used for that purpose
>> today, but there?s a big difference: Hydrogen combustion, unlike
>> natural gas combustion, produces only water, not greenhouse gases,
>> Agrawal said.
>>
>> He said hydricity may be more efficient at producing electricity
>> around the clock than batteries.
 
If the process were economical, it would already be being done.

Also, hydrogen combustion, unless you also capture the oxygen, which
increases costs, and exclude air from the combustion, produces HUGE
amounts of nitrogen oxides (smog) because of the high combustion 
temperature of hydrogen. 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#539444

On 12/15/2015 2:16 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Study Says ?Hydricity? Could Boost the Use of Renewables
>>> http://www.climatecentral.org/news/hydricity-could-boost-renewables-19810
>>
>>
>>> The hydricity process starts with water: Some is heated to a high
>>> temperature to produce electricity while the sun is shining. The rest
>>> is split into its parts ? hydrogen and oxygen. The hydrogen is then
>>> stored so it can be burned in a power plant at night.
>>>
>>> ?Basically, the technology holds the promise to provide electricity
>>> around the clock at unprecedented efficiencies

where ?  How ?   yet to be invented.

>>> and at a scale that is
>>> suitable for large cities, using solar energy and environmentally
>>> benign processes,? study co-author Rakesh Agrawal, a Purdue
>>> University chemical engineering professor, said.

>>> Hydricity uses hydrogen to produce electricity in a power plant in a
>>> way that resembles the way natural gas is used for that purpose
>>> today, but there?s a big difference: Hydrogen combustion, unlike
>>> natural gas combustion, produces only water, not greenhouse gases,
>>> Agrawal said.
>>>
>>> He said hydricity may be more efficient at producing electricity
>>> around the clock than batteries.
>
> If the process were economical, it would already be being done.
>
> Also, hydrogen combustion, unless you also capture the oxygen, which
> increases costs, and exclude air from the combustion, produces HUGE
> amounts of nitrogen oxides (smog) because of the high combustion
> temperature of hydrogen.
>

the nitrogen oxides are a huge problem, so the O2 must be saved and reused.

H2 storage is a huge problem, there are small tanks for cars and some 
refueling stations, but not for large factories from what I can tell.

If you liquify it, how much more energy does that take ?

and if you have 100,000 of liquid H2 in a large underground tank, in 
downtown Anaheim could that be a safety hazard?  would people think it 
is a safety hazard ?

(just pump the water uphill)

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#539445 — Re: Study Says 'Hydricity' Could Boost the Use of Renewables

On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 4:56:54 PM UTC+1, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Study Says 'Hydricity' Could Boost the Use of Renewables
> > http://www.climatecentral.org/news/hydricity-could-boost-renewables-19810
> 
> 
> > The hydricity process starts with water: Some is heated to a high
> > temperature to produce electricity while the sun is shining. The rest
> > is split into its parts -- hydrogen and oxygen. The hydrogen is then
> > stored so it can be burned in a power plant at night.
> >
> > "Basically, the technology holds the promise to provide electricity
> > around the clock at unprecedented efficiencies and at a scale that is
> > suitable for large cities, using solar energy and environmentally
> > benign processes," study co-author Rakesh Agrawal, a Purdue
> > University chemical engineering professor, said.
> >
> > Hydricity uses hydrogen to produce electricity in a power plant in a
> > way that resembles the way natural gas is used for that purpose
> > today, but there's a big difference: Hydrogen combustion, unlike
> > natural gas combustion, produces only water, not greenhouse gases,
> > Agrawal said.
> >
> > He said hydricity may be more efficient at producing electricity
> > around the clock than batteries.
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> community, and physics-related social issues.

you always quote some magazines as if you don't have opinion on your own ??? be the story maker for once not always conducting what the authorities have approved for publishing. are you so empty minded or maybe you're afraid of critics (some may tell you what they been telling me "to return to my madness cell") ???

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#539719 — Re: Study Says 'Hydricity' Could Boost the Use of Renewables

On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 7:56:54 AM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Study Says 'Hydricity' Could Boost the Use of Renewables
> > http://www.climatecentral.org/news/hydricity-could-boost-renewables-19810
> 
> 
> > The hydricity process starts with water: Some is heated to a high
> > temperature to produce electricity while the sun is shining. The rest
> > is split into its parts -- hydrogen and oxygen. The hydrogen is then
> > stored so it can be burned in a power plant at night.
> >
> > "Basically, the technology holds the promise to provide electricity
> > around the clock at unprecedented efficiencies and at a scale that is
> > suitable for large cities, using solar energy and environmentally
> > benign processes," study co-author Rakesh Agrawal, a Purdue
> > University chemical engineering professor, said.
> >
> > Hydricity uses hydrogen to produce electricity in a power plant in a
> > way that resembles the way natural gas is used for that purpose
> > today, but there's a big difference: Hydrogen combustion, unlike
> > natural gas combustion, produces only water, not greenhouse gases,
> > Agrawal said.
> >
> > He said hydricity may be more efficient at producing electricity
> > around the clock than batteries.
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> community, and physics-related social issues.

Mass Electric uses Hydrogen.GOPer Progress Energy burns cheap unfilter coal to give children lung cancer and make a buck.Get the picture yet TreBert

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