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Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED

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  Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-24 11:20 -0500
    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 16:48 +0000
      Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-24 12:27 -0500
        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 17:55 +0000
        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-25 12:34 -0500
    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-24 22:12 +0100
      Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-25 09:17 -0400
        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-25 15:30 +0100
          Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-25 10:53 -0400
            Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-25 10:15 -0500
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-25 11:35 -0400
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-25 11:02 -0500
                  Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-25 11:09 -0500
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-25 14:03 -0400
                      Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-25 19:52 -0500
                      Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 21:18 -0500
                        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-26 16:25 -0400
                          Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 04:23 -0500
                            Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-27 09:45 -0400
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 21:18 -0500
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-25 10:36 -0500
              & & & noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 10:20 -0700
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-25 20:50 +0100
            Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-25 16:57 +0000
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-25 14:06 -0400
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-26 05:43 -0400
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 17:40 +0000
                  Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED 9/11 "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-26 17:19 -0400
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED 9/11 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 22:00 +0000
                  Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED and so does Jim "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-26 17:06 -0500
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED and so does Jim jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 23:01 +0000
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED and so does Jim "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 04:23 -0500
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED and so does Jim gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 12:51 -0500
                  Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-27 07:25 +0200
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED  Jim is a LIAR "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-26 09:21 -0500
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED  Jim is a LIAR jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 17:41 +0000
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Jim is a LIAR gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-26 22:37 -0500
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED  Jim is a LIAR "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 04:21 -0500
            Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-25 14:01 -0400
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-26 06:02 -0400
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-26 16:36 -0400
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 04:21 -0500
                  Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-27 18:54 +0200
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 20:01 -0500
                      Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-28 05:53 +0200
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED  BKD is BAD "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-26 09:47 -0500
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED  BKD is BAD jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 17:43 +0000
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BKD is BAD gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 12:57 -0500
            Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 21:18 -0500
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-26 06:05 -0400
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 04:21 -0500
                  Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-29 10:38 -0500
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-29 16:27 +0000
                      Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-29 11:50 -0500
                        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-29 17:40 +0000
                          Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-29 12:57 -0500
                            Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-29 18:11 +0000
                        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-29 19:31 +0100
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 15:56 -0500
                      Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent can not provide one iota of evidence "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-29 18:50 -0500
                        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent can not provide one iota of evidence jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-30 01:28 +0000
                        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent can not provide one iota of evidence gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-29 22:27 -0500
                        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent can not provide one iota of evidence "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 04:41 -0500
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-26 09:17 -0500
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 17:48 +0000
                  Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED (I did not see a plane go in) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-26 15:07 -0500
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED (I did not see a plane go in) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 20:36 +0000
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED (I did not see a plane go in) gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 12:53 -0500
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 04:22 -0500
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 12:56 -0500
    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-24 20:28 -0500

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#516491 — Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2015-08-24 11:20 -0500
SubjectPing gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED
Message-ID<TIednSJsQvkM2UbInZ2dnUU7-WmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
gilber34 you are a complete idiot because it doesn't really matter if the 
Twin Towers were nuked or not because all that really matters is we were 
given complete and udder bullshit by NIST about what really brought the Twin 
Towers down.

NIST doest not have one fact to support their complete and udder bullshit 
and yet our whole policy that gets us in to war after war is based on 
believing the absolute bullshit that NIST gave us.

Kevin Ryan, one of the people in the following videos was in on the testing 
that NIST did on the steel from the Twin Towers.  He knows better than 
anybody that the test NIST ran did not support their "Collapse Initiation 
hypothesis."

If you are pissed because I go so far as to say both CGIs and Nukes were 
used in Nuke York City I can handle that but for you to ignore the fact that 
NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED is another issue entirely.

And it wasn't just NIST because the EPA was caught in bold faced lies about 
the air quality in Nuke York City too.

But back to the complete and udder bullshit from NIST:

The Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence is:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvCuMULutHs&list=PLm5UJ3igmxaIBJw8yvK1-a9H_11kBDS8W

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#516516

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-08-24 16:48 +0000
Message-ID<jfurac-9ib.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#516491
In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
> gilber34 you are a complete idiot because it doesn't really matter if the 
> Twin Towers were nuked or not because all that really matters is we were 
> given complete and udder bullshit by NIST about what really brought the Twin 
> Towers down.

Yeah, right.

What IS your problem, kook?

Did your mommy not love you and not pay any attention to you, kook?

Did all the other kids laugh at you, kook?

When did people first start looking upon you as a lunatic, kook?

Have you ever been to a mental health professional, kook?


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#516526

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2015-08-24 12:27 -0500
Message-ID<3c-dnfIGFYUozkbInZ2dnUU7-a-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#516516
<jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message 
news:jfurac-9ib.ln1@mail.specsol.com...
> In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>> gilber34 you are a complete idiot because it doesn't really matter if the
>> Twin Towers were nuked or not because all that really matters is we were
>> given complete and udder bullshit by NIST about what really brought the 
>> Twin
>> Towers down.
>
> Yeah, right.
>
> What IS your problem, kook?

You are obviously the one with the problem is you can not face the fact that 
NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED too.

See the facts that prove the "hypothetical collapse initiation" from NIST is 
not supported by a single fact.  See the following or remain st00pid

The Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence is:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvCuMULutHs&list=PLm5UJ3igmxaIBJw8yvK1-a9H_11kBDS8W

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#516543

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-08-24 17:55 +0000
Message-ID<7e2sac-o3c.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#516526
In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
 
> You are obviously the one with the problem is you can not face the fact that 
> NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED too.

The facts are some airliners were hijacked.

Two of them crashed into the World Trade Center towers, starting fires
which weakened the central support columns and the buildings collapesed
almost 2 hours later.

One of them crashed into the Pentagon causing a partial collapse of the
western side and one of them crashed into a field in Pennsylvania.

Everything else is kook babble.

That there were nuclear exposives involved is kook babble.

That there is missing rubble is kook babble.

That there has ever been a nuclear building demolition is kook babble.

That part of the buildings were vaporized is kook babble.

That part of a building was left standing proves there were nuclear
devices is kook babble.

That there was an EMP is kook babble.

That nuclear devices could be detonated underground and yet were not
seen by every seismograph in the world is kook babble.

That a failed US Government project that ended in 1973 has anything
to do with what happened is kook babble.

That the scene was radioactive is kook babble.

That there is any simularity between New York and either Hiroshima
or Nagasaki is kook babble.

That the area was called ground zero proves the event was nuclear
is kook babble.

That a nuclear bomb can be buried for decades without maintenance 
and still be expected to work is kook babble.

That non-government entities can obtain not one, but multiple nuclear
bombs is kook babble.

That there were not thousands of eyewitnesses who heard and saw the
airplanes hit the towers is kook babble.

That all the video was CGI is kook babble.

That the exterior walls were designed to deflect airplanes is kook babble.

That the exterior walls were anything other than supports for the
windows is kook babble.

That two of the aircraft landed somewhere else is kook babble.

That a shotgun works anything like an underground nuclear explosion
is kook babble.

There is nothing in an airplane that transmits the flight number to
ATC and saying the transponder does that is kook babble.

Saying a missile of any kind hit the Pentagon is kook babble.

Rantings about specially treated dirt is kook babble.

When a nuclear device explodes, it creates a unique seismic signature
that can be detected anywhere on the planet.

There were no nuclear seismic signatures detected on 9/11 but the 
collapse of the two towers as well as the plane crash at the Pentagon
and the crash in Pennsyvania were detected.

This alone is enough to disprove any nuclear devices were used on 9/11.

Saying people worship their television and capitalizing "television" is
kook babble.

Capitalizing things that shouldn't be capitalized is kook babble.


<snip remaining kook babble>


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#516819

Fromgilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-08-25 12:34 -0500
Message-ID<mri8up$beg$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#516526
On 8/24/2015 12:27 PM, Rocky wrote:
> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message
> news:jfurac-9ib.ln1@mail.specsol.com...
>> In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>> gilber34 you are a complete idiot because it doesn't really matter if the
>>> Twin Towers were nuked or not because all that really matters is we were
>>> given complete and udder bullshit by NIST about what really brought the
>>> Twin
>>> Towers down.
>>
>> Yeah, right.
>>
>> What IS your problem, kook?
>
> You are obviously the one with the problem is you can not face the fact that
> NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED too.

wrong, people died, and that has nothing to do with whatever NIST did/didnt.

>
> See the facts that prove the "hypothetical collapse initiation" from NIST is
> not supported by a single fact.

facts prove a hypothetical not supported by facts. ???

Go back to Engrlish Class.

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#516616

FromTony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com>
Date2015-08-24 22:12 +0100
Message-ID<mrg17r$llc$8@dont-email.me>
In reply to#516491
On 24/08/2015 17:20, Rocky wrote:
> gilber34 you are a complete idiot because it doesn't really matter if the
> Twin Towers were nuked or not because all that really matters is we were
> given complete and udder bullshit by NIST about what really brought the Twin
> Towers down.

About turn.

>
> NIST doest not have one fact to support their complete and udder bullshit
> and yet our whole policy that gets us in to war after war is based on
> believing the absolute bullshit that NIST gave us.
>
> Kevin Ryan, one of the people in the following videos was in on the testing
> that NIST did on the steel from the Twin Towers.  He knows better than
> anybody that the test NIST ran did not support their "Collapse Initiation
> hypothesis."
>
> If you are pissed because I go so far as to say both CGIs and Nukes were
> used in Nuke York City I can handle that but for you to ignore the fact that
> NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED is another issue entirely.

But in the past you have said that the casualty list was fabricated.

>
> And it wasn't just NIST because the EPA was caught in bold faced lies about
> the air quality in Nuke York City too.
>
> But back to the complete and udder bullshit from NIST:
>
> The Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence is:
>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvCuMULutHs&list=PLm5UJ3igmxaIBJw8yvK1-a9H_11kBDS8W
>


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#516739

From"Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
Date2015-08-25 09:17 -0400
Message-ID<mrhppq$sgp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#516616

Tony Dragon wrote:
> On 24/08/2015 17:20, Rocky wrote:
>> gilber34 you are a complete idiot because it doesn't really matter if
>> the Twin Towers were nuked or not because all that really matters is we
>> were given complete and udder bullshit by NIST about what really brought
>> the Twin Towers down.
>
> About turn.
>
>>
>> NIST doest not have one fact to support their complete and udder
>> bullshit and yet our whole policy that gets us in to war after war is 
>> based on
>> believing the absolute bullshit that NIST gave us.
>>
>> Kevin Ryan, one of the people in the following videos was in on the
>> testing that NIST did on the steel from the Twin Towers.  He knows better 
>> than
>> anybody that the test NIST ran did not support their "Collapse
>> Initiation hypothesis."
>>
>> If you are pissed because I go so far as to say both CGIs and Nukes
>> were used in Nuke York City I can handle that but for you to ignore the
>> fact that NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED is another issue entirely.
>
> But in the past you have said that the casualty list was fabricated.





It most certainly was.
The first responders that died were never included as "9/11 casualties"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmkNn6Huko0

And were also dismissed as "kooks",...yet THEY WERE THERE. 

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#516749

FromTony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com>
Date2015-08-25 15:30 +0100
Message-ID<mrhu3h$d6l$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#516739
On 25/08/2015 14:17, Bast wrote:
> Tony Dragon wrote:
>> On 24/08/2015 17:20, Rocky wrote:
>>> gilber34 you are a complete idiot because it doesn't really matter if
>>> the Twin Towers were nuked or not because all that really matters is we
>>> were given complete and udder bullshit by NIST about what really brought
>>> the Twin Towers down.
>>
>> About turn.
>>
>>>
>>> NIST doest not have one fact to support their complete and udder
>>> bullshit and yet our whole policy that gets us in to war after war is
>>> based on
>>> believing the absolute bullshit that NIST gave us.
>>>
>>> Kevin Ryan, one of the people in the following videos was in on the
>>> testing that NIST did on the steel from the Twin Towers.  He knows better
>>> than
>>> anybody that the test NIST ran did not support their "Collapse
>>> Initiation hypothesis."
>>>
>>> If you are pissed because I go so far as to say both CGIs and Nukes
>>> were used in Nuke York City I can handle that but for you to ignore the
>>> fact that NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED is another issue entirely.
>>
>> But in the past you have said that the casualty list was fabricated.
>
>
>
>
>
> It most certainly was.
> The first responders that died were never included as "9/11 casualties"
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmkNn6Huko0
>
> And were also dismissed as "kooks",...yet THEY WERE THERE.
>
>

What were they reported as then?

I am sure that there has been lists of for example fire service casualties.

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#516754

From"Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
Date2015-08-25 10:53 -0400
Message-ID<mrhvee$kav$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#516749

Tony Dragon wrote:
> On 25/08/2015 14:17, Bast wrote:
>> Tony Dragon wrote:
>>> On 24/08/2015 17:20, Rocky wrote:
>>>> gilber34 you are a complete idiot because it doesn't really matter if
>>>> the Twin Towers were nuked or not because all that really matters is
>>>> we were given complete and udder bullshit by NIST about what really
>>>> brought the Twin Towers down.
>>>
>>> About turn.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> NIST doest not have one fact to support their complete and udder
>>>> bullshit and yet our whole policy that gets us in to war after war is
>>>> based on
>>>> believing the absolute bullshit that NIST gave us.
>>>>
>>>> Kevin Ryan, one of the people in the following videos was in on the
>>>> testing that NIST did on the steel from the Twin Towers.  He knows
>>>> better than
>>>> anybody that the test NIST ran did not support their "Collapse
>>>> Initiation hypothesis."
>>>>
>>>> If you are pissed because I go so far as to say both CGIs and Nukes
>>>> were used in Nuke York City I can handle that but for you to ignore
>>>> the fact that NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED is another issue entirely.
>>>
>>> But in the past you have said that the casualty list was fabricated.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> It most certainly was.
>> The first responders that died were never included as "9/11 casualties"
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmkNn6Huko0
>>
>> And were also dismissed as "kooks",...yet THEY WERE THERE.
>>
>>
>
> What were they reported as then?
>
> I am sure that there has been lists of for example fire service
> casualties.





Not according to the US federal government.
As they would have to answer questions of why so many of the 9/11 first 
responders are now dead with cancer.

Much like after Hiroshima the victims years later were never considered 
"casualties".

So I won't dismiss Rocky's claims of "nukes" being used that day, even if I 
can not prove it.
Especially since the feds were so concerned about making all the debris 
vanish, so no one else could do a proper investigation.


There was no reason the debis couldn't have been stored somewhere in the US, 
where proper impartial forensic investigations could be done.
Particularly with the debris from WTC 7, which had no logical reason to 
collapse.

NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11 or 
since,  totally collapsed due to fire.
And yet that day 3 buildings all suffered the same fate. And all were owned 
by the same person.





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#516761

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2015-08-25 10:15 -0500
Message-ID<Jp-dne28uKWCG0HInZ2dnUU7-WGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#516754
"Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote in message 
news:mrhvee$kav$1@dont-email.me...
>
>
> Tony Dragon wrote:
>> On 25/08/2015 14:17, Bast wrote:
>>> Tony Dragon wrote:
>>>> On 24/08/2015 17:20, Rocky wrote:
>>>>> gilber34 you are a complete idiot because it doesn't really matter if
>>>>> the Twin Towers were nuked or not because all that really matters is
>>>>> we were given complete and udder bullshit by NIST about what really
>>>>> brought the Twin Towers down.
>>>>
>>>> About turn.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> NIST doest not have one fact to support their complete and udder
>>>>> bullshit and yet our whole policy that gets us in to war after war is
>>>>> based on
>>>>> believing the absolute bullshit that NIST gave us.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kevin Ryan, one of the people in the following videos was in on the
>>>>> testing that NIST did on the steel from the Twin Towers.  He knows
>>>>> better than
>>>>> anybody that the test NIST ran did not support their "Collapse
>>>>> Initiation hypothesis."
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are pissed because I go so far as to say both CGIs and Nukes
>>>>> were used in Nuke York City I can handle that but for you to ignore
>>>>> the fact that NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED is another issue entirely.
>>>>
>>>> But in the past you have said that the casualty list was fabricated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It most certainly was.
>>> The first responders that died were never included as "9/11 casualties"
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmkNn6Huko0
>>>
>>> And were also dismissed as "kooks",...yet THEY WERE THERE.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> What were they reported as then?
>>
>> I am sure that there has been lists of for example fire service
>> casualties.
>
>
>
>
>
> Not according to the US federal government.
> As they would have to answer questions of why so many of the 9/11 first 
> responders are now dead with cancer.
>
> Much like after Hiroshima the victims years later were never considered 
> "casualties".
>
> So I won't dismiss Rocky's claims of "nukes" being used that day, even if 
> I can not prove it.
> Especially since the feds were so concerned about making all the debris 
> vanish, so no one else could do a proper investigation.

Actually that particular story about removing the debris is BS because the 
fact is there was next to nothing left of the Twin Towers to ship anywhere. 
See:
 http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg

And it is the ultra fine particles that floated away that is one of the tell 
tale signs of nuke because nothing else can do that to solid steel.  See:

Nuclear destruction of the WTC
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7FNGWsjj_Y

AE911truth found very small particles from the Twin Towers but they assumed 
it was left over nano-thermate instead of evidence that a nuke had been 
used.

> There was no reason the debis couldn't have been stored somewhere in the 
> US, where proper impartial forensic investigations could be done.
> Particularly with the debris from WTC 7, which had no logical reason to 
> collapse.
>
> NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11 or 
> since,  totally collapsed due to fire.
> And yet that day 3 buildings all suffered the same fate. And all were 
> owned by the same person.

Only a television junkie could believe all the crap we were fed on and about 
9/11 starting with the very obvious bullshit about Flight 77 and Flight 93.

Rocky 

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#516765

From"Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
Date2015-08-25 11:35 -0400
Message-ID<mri1se$v0v$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#516761

Rocky wrote:
> "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:mrhvee$kav$1@dont-email.me...
>>
>>
>> Tony Dragon wrote:
>>> On 25/08/2015 14:17, Bast wrote:
>>>> Tony Dragon wrote:
>>>>> On 24/08/2015 17:20, Rocky wrote:
>>>>>> gilber34 you are a complete idiot because it doesn't really matter
>>>>>> if the Twin Towers were nuked or not because all that really
>>>>>> matters is we were given complete and udder bullshit by NIST about
>>>>>> what really brought the Twin Towers down.
>>>>>
>>>>> About turn.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NIST doest not have one fact to support their complete and udder
>>>>>> bullshit and yet our whole policy that gets us in to war after war
>>>>>> is based on
>>>>>> believing the absolute bullshit that NIST gave us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kevin Ryan, one of the people in the following videos was in on the
>>>>>> testing that NIST did on the steel from the Twin Towers.  He knows
>>>>>> better than
>>>>>> anybody that the test NIST ran did not support their "Collapse
>>>>>> Initiation hypothesis."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are pissed because I go so far as to say both CGIs and Nukes
>>>>>> were used in Nuke York City I can handle that but for you to ignore
>>>>>> the fact that NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED is another issue entirely.
>>>>>
>>>>> But in the past you have said that the casualty list was fabricated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It most certainly was.
>>>> The first responders that died were never included as "9/11
>>>> casualties" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmkNn6Huko0
>>>>
>>>> And were also dismissed as "kooks",...yet THEY WERE THERE.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> What were they reported as then?
>>>
>>> I am sure that there has been lists of for example fire service
>>> casualties.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Not according to the US federal government.
>> As they would have to answer questions of why so many of the 9/11 first
>> responders are now dead with cancer.
>>
>> Much like after Hiroshima the victims years later were never considered
>> "casualties".
>>
>> So I won't dismiss Rocky's claims of "nukes" being used that day, even
>> if I can not prove it.
>> Especially since the feds were so concerned about making all the debris
>> vanish, so no one else could do a proper investigation.
>
> Actually that particular story about removing the debris is BS because
> the fact is there was next to nothing left of the Twin Towers to ship
> anywhere. See:
> http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg
>
> And it is the ultra fine particles that floated away that is one of the
> tell tale signs of nuke because nothing else can do that to solid
> steel.  See:
> Nuclear destruction of the WTC
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7FNGWsjj_Y
>
> AE911truth found very small particles from the Twin Towers but they
> assumed it was left over nano-thermate instead of evidence that a nuke
> had been used.
>
>> There was no reason the debis couldn't have been stored somewhere in
>> the US, where proper impartial forensic investigations could be done.
>> Particularly with the debris from WTC 7, which had no logical reason to
>> collapse.
>>
>> NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11 or
>> since,  totally collapsed due to fire.
>> And yet that day 3 buildings all suffered the same fate. And all were
>> owned by the same person.
>
> Only a television junkie could believe all the crap we were fed on and
> about 9/11 starting with the very obvious bullshit about Flight 77 and
> Flight 93.
> Rocky





There is no reason to think that both Thermite AND Nukes, and perhaps 
something else could have been used to make sure those towers fell.
A good plan always has a backup, in case the primary plan doesn't work.
Perhaps WTC 7 was supposed to fall that morning too, but when it didn't 
collapse on schedule, they had to had to improvise, and that took more time.


I'm sure the feds will get better at making their false flags look 
realistic. As practice makes perfect.
And they now desperately need a reason to start WW3, as the economy is 
starting to really fall apart.




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#516778

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2015-08-25 11:02 -0500
Message-ID<RbGdnReKRphEDEHInZ2dnUU7-L-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#516765
"Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote in message 
news:mri1se$v0v$1@dont-email.me...
>
>
> Rocky wrote:
>> "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:mrhvee$kav$1@dont-email.me...
>>>
>>>
>>> Tony Dragon wrote:
>>>> On 25/08/2015 14:17, Bast wrote:
>>>>> Tony Dragon wrote:
>>>>>> On 24/08/2015 17:20, Rocky wrote:
>>>>>>> gilber34 you are a complete idiot because it doesn't really matter
>>>>>>> if the Twin Towers were nuked or not because all that really
>>>>>>> matters is we were given complete and udder bullshit by NIST about
>>>>>>> what really brought the Twin Towers down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> About turn.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NIST doest not have one fact to support their complete and udder
>>>>>>> bullshit and yet our whole policy that gets us in to war after war
>>>>>>> is based on
>>>>>>> believing the absolute bullshit that NIST gave us.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kevin Ryan, one of the people in the following videos was in on the
>>>>>>> testing that NIST did on the steel from the Twin Towers.  He knows
>>>>>>> better than
>>>>>>> anybody that the test NIST ran did not support their "Collapse
>>>>>>> Initiation hypothesis."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you are pissed because I go so far as to say both CGIs and Nukes
>>>>>>> were used in Nuke York City I can handle that but for you to ignore
>>>>>>> the fact that NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED is another issue entirely.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But in the past you have said that the casualty list was fabricated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It most certainly was.
>>>>> The first responders that died were never included as "9/11
>>>>> casualties" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmkNn6Huko0
>>>>>
>>>>> And were also dismissed as "kooks",...yet THEY WERE THERE.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What were they reported as then?
>>>>
>>>> I am sure that there has been lists of for example fire service
>>>> casualties.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not according to the US federal government.
>>> As they would have to answer questions of why so many of the 9/11 first
>>> responders are now dead with cancer.
>>>
>>> Much like after Hiroshima the victims years later were never considered
>>> "casualties".
>>>
>>> So I won't dismiss Rocky's claims of "nukes" being used that day, even
>>> if I can not prove it.
>>> Especially since the feds were so concerned about making all the debris
>>> vanish, so no one else could do a proper investigation.
>>
>> Actually that particular story about removing the debris is BS because
>> the fact is there was next to nothing left of the Twin Towers to ship
>> anywhere. See:
>> http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg
>>
>> And it is the ultra fine particles that floated away that is one of the
>> tell tale signs of nuke because nothing else can do that to solid
>> steel.  See:
>> Nuclear destruction of the WTC
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7FNGWsjj_Y
>>
>> AE911truth found very small particles from the Twin Towers but they
>> assumed it was left over nano-thermate instead of evidence that a nuke
>> had been used.
>>
>>> There was no reason the debis couldn't have been stored somewhere in
>>> the US, where proper impartial forensic investigations could be done.
>>> Particularly with the debris from WTC 7, which had no logical reason to
>>> collapse.
>>>
>>> NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11 or
>>> since,  totally collapsed due to fire.
>>> And yet that day 3 buildings all suffered the same fate. And all were
>>> owned by the same person.
>>
>> Only a television junkie could believe all the crap we were fed on and
>> about 9/11 starting with the very obvious bullshit about Flight 77 and
>> Flight 93.
>> Rocky
>
>
> There is no reason to think that both Thermite AND Nukes,

Thermite was most definitely used because it was needed to cut the airplane 
like holes in the Twin Towers.  And you can even see it at work if you look 
close enough.

> and perhaps something else could have been used to make sure those towers 
> fell.
> A good plan always has a backup, in case the primary plan doesn't work.
> Perhaps WTC 7 was supposed to fall that morning too, but when it didn't 
> collapse on schedule, they had to had to improvise, and that took more 
> time.

And I swore by thermate a lot of times until I was furnished more 
information than I got from AE911truth which happened to be about 9 years 
after 9/11.


> I'm sure the feds will get better at making their false flags look 
> realistic. As practice makes perfect.
> And they now desperately need a reason to start WW3, as the economy is 
> starting to really fall apart.

It appears we are already in a covert war by blowing up buildings in China. 
Here dig this:
 http://www.groundzeromedia.org/the-heart-of-war/

Rocky

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#516782

Fromgilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-08-25 11:09 -0500
Message-ID<mri3vm$u45$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#516778
>
> It appears we are already in a covert war by blowing up buildings in China.
> Here dig this:
> http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01523/obama_1523079c.jpg
>
> Rocky
>

that is sick. he just wants to get boofooed by the chinese

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#516825

FromBDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com>
Date2015-08-25 14:03 -0400
Message-ID<MPG.304677e27863053a98c241@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#516782
In article <mri3vm$u45$1@speranza.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says...
> 
> >
> > It appears we are already in a covert war by blowing up buildings in China.
> > Here dig this:
> > http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01523/obama_1523079c.jpg
> >
> > Rocky
> >
> 
> that is sick. he just wants to get boofooed by the chinese

That's the Emperor of Japan, and his wife.

-- 
BDK: Head Government Shill, and future Psychotronic World Dominator. 
Master of Remote Viewing. Level 5 expert in kOOkStudies.
Former FEMA camp activities director. Head Strategic Writer. Former 
Black Helicopter color consultant.

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#516906

Fromgilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-08-25 19:52 -0500
Message-ID<mrj2k9$af1$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#516825
On 8/25/2015 1:03 PM, BDK wrote:
> In article <mri3vm$u45$1@speranza.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says...
>>
>>>
>>> It appears we are already in a covert war by blowing up buildings in China.
>>> Here dig this:
>>> http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01523/obama_1523079c.jpg
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>
>> that is sick. he just wants to get boofooed by the chinese
>
> That's the Emperor of Japan, and his wife.
>

....so not chinese.......  by Emperors !

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#516929

From"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-25 21:18 -0500
Message-ID<bg8qta9bcb3jh38vrpchaisar3qdkmk58i@4ax.com>
In reply to#516825
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:03:04 -0400, BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com>
wrote:

>In article <mri3vm$u45$1@speranza.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says...
>> 
>> >
>> > It appears we are already in a covert war by blowing up buildings in China.
>> > Here dig this:
>> > http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01523/obama_1523079c.jpg
>> >
>> > Rocky
>> >
>> 
>> that is sick. he just wants to get boofooed by the chinese
>
>That's the Emperor of Japan, and his wife.

     And it looks like they're at the Imperial Palace. As such, the
President bowing makes sense.

-- 
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor

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#517092

FromBDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com>
Date2015-08-26 16:25 -0400
Message-ID<MPG.3047eabd80364c3798c247@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#516929
In article <bg8qta9bcb3jh38vrpchaisar3qdkmk58i@4ax.com>, 
compuelf@gmail.com says...
> 
> On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:03:04 -0400, BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >In article <mri3vm$u45$1@speranza.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says...
> >> 
> >> >
> >> > It appears we are already in a covert war by blowing up buildings in China.
> >> > Here dig this:
> >> > http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01523/obama_1523079c.jpg
> >> >
> >> > Rocky
> >> >
> >> 
> >> that is sick. he just wants to get boofooed by the chinese
> >
> >That's the Emperor of Japan, and his wife.
> 
>      And it looks like they're at the Imperial Palace. As such, the
> President bowing makes sense.

Obama Delusion Syndrome makes people see all kinds of goofy shit when 
they see him. I don't get it at all.

-- 
BDK: Head Government Shill, and future Psychotronic World Dominator. 
Master of Remote Viewing. Level 5 expert in kOOkStudies.
Former FEMA camp activities director. Head Strategic Writer. Former 
Black Helicopter color consultant.

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#517164

From"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-27 04:23 -0500
Message-ID<dolttap4sa61mc5iit0tuf1upkafeh7e1m@4ax.com>
In reply to#517092
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 16:25:26 -0400, BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com>
wrote:

>In article <bg8qta9bcb3jh38vrpchaisar3qdkmk58i@4ax.com>, 
>compuelf@gmail.com says...
>> 
>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:03:04 -0400, BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >In article <mri3vm$u45$1@speranza.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says...
>> >> 
>> >> >
>> >> > It appears we are already in a covert war by blowing up buildings in China.
>> >> > Here dig this:
>> >> > http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01523/obama_1523079c.jpg
>> >> >
>> >> > Rocky
>> >> >
>> >> 
>> >> that is sick. he just wants to get boofooed by the chinese
>> >
>> >That's the Emperor of Japan, and his wife.
>> 
>>      And it looks like they're at the Imperial Palace. As such, the
>> President bowing makes sense.
>
>Obama Delusion Syndrome makes people see all kinds of goofy shit when 
>they see him. I don't get it at all.

     I don't understand such people.
     The President is visiting a foreign country. While there he
honors their norms and mores. I fail to see how this is a bad thing
for any President.

-- 
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor

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#517190

FromBDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com>
Date2015-08-27 09:45 -0400
Message-ID<MPG.3048de80cd79a2898c24d@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#517164
In article <dolttap4sa61mc5iit0tuf1upkafeh7e1m@4ax.com>, 
compuelf@gmail.com says...
> 
> On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 16:25:26 -0400, BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >In article <bg8qta9bcb3jh38vrpchaisar3qdkmk58i@4ax.com>, 
> >compuelf@gmail.com says...
> >> 
> >> On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:03:04 -0400, BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >In article <mri3vm$u45$1@speranza.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says...
> >> >> 
> >> >> >
> >> >> > It appears we are already in a covert war by blowing up buildings in China.
> >> >> > Here dig this:
> >> >> > http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01523/obama_1523079c.jpg
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Rocky
> >> >> >
> >> >> 
> >> >> that is sick. he just wants to get boofooed by the chinese
> >> >
> >> >That's the Emperor of Japan, and his wife.
> >> 
> >>      And it looks like they're at the Imperial Palace. As such, the
> >> President bowing makes sense.
> >
> >Obama Delusion Syndrome makes people see all kinds of goofy shit when 
> >they see him. I don't get it at all.
> 
>      I don't understand such people.
>      The President is visiting a foreign country. While there he
> honors their norms and mores. I fail to see how this is a bad thing
> for any President.

That's because you aren't suffering from ODS.

-- 
BDK: Head Government Shill, and future Psychotronic World Dominator. 
Master of Remote Viewing. Level 5 expert in kOOkStudies.
Former FEMA camp activities director. Head Strategic Writer. Former 
Black Helicopter color consultant.

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#516928

From"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-25 21:18 -0500
Message-ID<5f8qta1m04v06lidr84bhi7calmqu5fc48@4ax.com>
In reply to#516782
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:09:25 -0500, gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
wrote:

>> It appears we are already in a covert war by blowing up buildings in China.
>> Here dig this:
>> http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01523/obama_1523079c.jpg
>>
>> Rocky
>
>that is sick. he just wants to get boofooed by the chinese

     While in Japan? Please explain.
     The picture shows President Obama meeting with Emperor Akihito.
The Emperor's wife, her name escapes me at the moment and I'm too lazy
to look it up, is also present.
     Since President Obama is bowing, we can presume they are in
Japan. I could not say so under oath, but I think they're at the
Imperial Palace.
     While I have no problem with the President honoring the customs
of the country of Japan, while in Japan, by bowing, I do wonder why he
chose such a deep bow. A bow such as that is typically used to express
sorrow or shame for one's actions. A way of saying, "I'm sorry." It's
odd to do when meeting someone.

-- 
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor

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