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Galactic Jets Spawn Stars

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First post2015-08-19 14:29 -0700
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  Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 14:29 -0700
    Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 17:43 -0700
      Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 11:58 -0700
        Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-08-20 15:15 -0700
          Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 17:17 -0700
            Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 08:00 -0700
              Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 14:25 -0700
                Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-08-22 15:13 -0700
                  Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 17:06 -0700
                    Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 08:16 -0700
                      Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 12:55 -0400
                      Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-08-23 10:51 -0700
                        Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 14:07 -0400
                          Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 04:32 -0700
                            Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 07:51 -0400
                              Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 05:26 -0700
                                Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 08:43 -0400
                                  Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 06:18 -0700
                                    Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 11:55 -0400
                                      Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 08:58 -0700
                                        Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 14:49 -0400
                    Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 10:21 -0500
                      Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 08:56 -0700
                        Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 11:23 -0500
                        Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 14:51 -0400
                Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 09:16 -0500
                  Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 12:05 -0400
                    Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 09:11 -0700
                    Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 11:24 -0500
                      Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 09:38 -0700
                        Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 11:51 -0500
                          Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 10:01 -0700
                            Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 12:17 -0500
                              Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 10:30 -0700
                                Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 13:51 -0500
                                  Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 13:59 -0700
                                    Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 14:05 -0700
                                      Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 17:18 -0500
                                        Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 15:49 -0700
                                          Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 08:10 -0500
                                            Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 08:29 -0700
                                              Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 10:50 -0500
                                                Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 09:12 -0700
                                                  Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 07:40 -0700
                                                    Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 11:23 -0400
                                                      Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 09:24 -0700
                                                    Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 13:03 -0400
                                                      Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 08:26 -0700
                                                        Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:07 -0700
                                                          Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 11:51 -0500
                                                            Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 12:08 -0700
                                                              Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 14:25 -0500
                                                                Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 07:47 -0700
                                                                  Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 08:07 -0700
                                                                  Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-08-28 11:14 -0700
                                                        Re: Galactic Jets Spawn Stars HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 14:12 -0400

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#516561

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-24 14:49 -0400
Message-ID<mrfos4$oho$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#516475
On 8/24/2015 11:58 AM, john wrote:
 >
> HVAC seeks to kill those that don't fit in.
> Does HVAC fit in?

In my world a pedophile like you would get put down. Like a rabid dog.

Again, this is not about revenge. This is about seeing to it that you, 
John, never do it again. Pedophilia is one of the few crimes that 
deserve the ultimate response from society.

After a fair trial of course.


-- 
"Are we going to fight or are we going to stand around all day?"
https://goo.gl/TU0Xr6

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#516457

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-24 10:21 -0500
Message-ID<mrfcpi$ejk$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#515914
On 8/22/2015 7:06 PM, john wrote:
> I feel that they repel.
> Because they have opposite spin.
> I think that's why star arms remain
> segregated
>

And why do the sun and the earth remain separated? Because they have 
opposite spin?

Might want to look at how they are actually rotating and then ask 
yourself the same question again.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#516472

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-24 08:56 -0700
Message-ID<bb5fa2f1-8c19-4f3e-b191-2a42a0833171@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#516457
Odd said:
Anything that remains separated must
use the same mechanism 

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#516492

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-24 11:23 -0500
Message-ID<mrfgd8$pa1$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#516472
On 8/24/2015 10:56 AM, john wrote:
> Odd said:
> Anything that remains separated must
> use the same mechanism
>

Well, no, I didn't say that. But I'm curious why you think the same 
mechanism is at work between galactic arms and fermions with the same 
quantum numbers.

After all, doesn't it make more sense that the same mechanism is at work 
holding the earth apart from the sun and the arms of the galaxy apart 
from the galactic center and the rings of Saturn away from Saturn?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#516563

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-24 14:51 -0400
Message-ID<mrfov9$oho$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#516472
On 8/24/2015 11:56 AM, john wrote:
> Odd said:
> Anything that remains separated must
> use the same mechanism
>

He was misquoted.

-- 
"Are we going to fight or are we going to stand around all day?"
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#516427

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-24 09:16 -0500
Message-ID<mrf90q$51h$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#515876
On 8/22/2015 4:25 PM, john wrote:
> So, regular stars are created on
> one side of the Galaxy, while antimatter
> stars are created on the other. So
> galaxies are half and half
>

And so there should be enormous and quite distinctive 1.022 MeV gamma 
rays coming specifically from the boundary where those two regions are 
in contact. Any evidence of that?

Don't think we can resolve that? Here's what Andromeda would look like 
in the night sky if it were brighter. That's actual size.
http://i.imgur.com/oQWH3n8.jpg

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#516479

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-24 12:05 -0400
Message-ID<mrff8j$aj2$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#516427
On 8/24/2015 10:16 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 8/22/2015 4:25 PM, john wrote:
>> So, regular stars are created on
>> one side of the Galaxy, while antimatter
>> stars are created on the other. So
>> galaxies are half and half
>>
>
> And so there should be enormous and quite distinctive 1.022 MeV gamma
> rays coming specifically from the boundary where those two regions are
> in contact. Any evidence of that?
>
> Don't think we can resolve that? Here's what Andromeda would look like
> in the night sky if it were brighter. That's actual size.
> http://i.imgur.com/oQWH3n8.jpg
>

Not to mention that John's retarded 'physics' apparently isn't at work 
in an elliptical galaxy.

-- 
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https://goo.gl/TU0Xr6

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#516484

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-24 09:11 -0700
Message-ID<6d0430cb-83f5-46c2-bbff-f2c7ea022e83@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#516479
HVAC, you water boarding retard, it
was in an elliptical Galaxy that they
saw the jets involved in new star
production. You have the observation 
powers of a gnat 

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#516493

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-24 11:24 -0500
Message-ID<mrfgga$pa1$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#516479
On 8/24/2015 11:05 AM, HVAC wrote:
> On 8/24/2015 10:16 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 8/22/2015 4:25 PM, john wrote:
>>> So, regular stars are created on
>>> one side of the Galaxy, while antimatter
>>> stars are created on the other. So
>>> galaxies are half and half
>>>
>>
>> And so there should be enormous and quite distinctive 1.022 MeV gamma
>> rays coming specifically from the boundary where those two regions are
>> in contact. Any evidence of that?
>>
>> Don't think we can resolve that? Here's what Andromeda would look like
>> in the night sky if it were brighter. That's actual size.
>> http://i.imgur.com/oQWH3n8.jpg
>>
>
> Not to mention that John's retarded 'physics' apparently isn't at work
> in an elliptical galaxy.
>

Exactly.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#516501

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-24 09:38 -0700
Message-ID<7a1086fc-071e-4443-a5a8-35f532d593e6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#516493
Odd- and HVAC- the observation was
MADE in elliptical galaxies;
___________

Hubble finds evidence of galaxy star birth regulated by black-hole fountain 
> http://phys.org/news/2015-08-thickets-stars-elliptical-galaxies.html 


> Astronomers have uncovered a unique process for how the universe's 
> largest elliptical galaxies continue making stars long after their 
> peak years of star birth. NASA's Hubble Space Telescope's exquisite 
> high resolution and ultraviolet-light sensitivity allowed the 
> astronomers to see brilliant knots of hot, blue stars forming along 
> the jets of active black holes found in the centers of giant 
> elliptical galaxies. 

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#516511

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-24 11:51 -0500
Message-ID<mrfi2e$t99$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#516501
On 8/24/2015 11:38 AM, john wrote:
> Odd- and HVAC- the observation was
> MADE in elliptical galaxies;

What observation, though?
We were talking about signature 1.022 MeV gamma radiation that would be 
the hallmark of matter-antimatter interactions in elliptical galaxies. 
There ain't any.

> ___________
>
> Hubble finds evidence of galaxy star birth regulated by black-hole fountain
>> http://phys.org/news/2015-08-thickets-stars-elliptical-galaxies.html
>
>
>> Astronomers have uncovered a unique process for how the universe's
>> largest elliptical galaxies continue making stars long after their
>> peak years of star birth. NASA's Hubble Space Telescope's exquisite
>> high resolution and ultraviolet-light sensitivity allowed the
>> astronomers to see brilliant knots of hot, blue stars forming along
>> the jets of active black holes found in the centers of giant
>> elliptical galaxies.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#516517

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-24 10:01 -0700
Message-ID<387cf9b6-3b20-475d-971f-003dd0e330e8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#516511
On 8/24/2015 11:38 AM, john wrote: 
> Odd- and HVAC- the observation was 
> MADE in elliptical galaxies; 

Odd said: "What observation, though? 
We were talking about signature 1.022 MeV gamma radiation that would be 
the hallmark of matter-antimatter interactions in elliptical galaxies. 
There ain't any. "
So, they don't annihilate.
They repel each other.
You say they don't repel?
You say I have no predictions?
That is going to be tested very soon.
Prediction- they will be found to repel.

Older prediction: galactic jets are part of
a cycle that breeds new stars. Verified.

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#516522

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-24 12:17 -0500
Message-ID<mrfjjv$1ur$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#516517
On 8/24/2015 12:01 PM, john wrote:
> On 8/24/2015 11:38 AM, john wrote:
>> Odd- and HVAC- the observation was
>> MADE in elliptical galaxies;
>
> Odd said: "What observation, though?
> We were talking about signature 1.022 MeV gamma radiation that would be
> the hallmark of matter-antimatter interactions in elliptical galaxies.
> There ain't any. "
> So, they don't annihilate.
> They repel each other.

But if you actually LOOK at a galaxy, you'll note that you don't have 
just two arms with nothing in between. You'll notice that there is stuff 
in the MIDDLE connecting the two arms. So that stuff in the MIDDLE is 
touching both arms. So if the stuff in the MIDDLE is matter, then it's 
going to annihilate with the antimatter arm where the MIDDLE and that 
arm touch. If the stuff in the MIDDLE is anti-matter, then it's going to 
annihilate with the matter arm where the MIDDLE and that arm touch.

So what say you, John?

Where's the 1.022 MeV radiation?

> You say they don't repel?
> You say I have no predictions?
> That is going to be tested very soon.
> Prediction- they will be found to repel.

And how do you propose to determine that they repel?

(Please notice the sun and the earth do not fall into each other. But 
they don't repel.)

>
> Older prediction: galactic jets are part of
> a cycle that breeds new stars. Verified.
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#516530

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-24 10:30 -0700
Message-ID<b04c382a-f20c-4e14-84f3-6782c32885ee@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#516522
> You say they don't repel? 
> You say I have no predictions? 
> That is going to be tested very soon. 
> Prediction- they will be found to repel. 
Odd said:
"And how do you propose to determine that they repel? "
Not me doing it.
A recent article indicated that they
are almost to the point where they can make
that determination.
Don't ask me to find it- you are better at
doing that- you find it

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#516564

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-24 13:51 -0500
Message-ID<mrfp47$fmi$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#516530
On 8/24/2015 12:30 PM, john wrote:
>
>> You say they don't repel?
>> You say I have no predictions?
>> That is going to be tested very soon.
>> Prediction- they will be found to repel.
> Odd said:
> "And how do you propose to determine that they repel?"
> Not me doing it.
> A recent article indicated that they
> are almost to the point where they can make
> that determination.
> Don't ask me to find it- you are better at
> doing that- you find it
>

Not much to go on, John: Your vague recollection of something you might 
have read, but you can't for the life of you remember where you read it, 
let alone what it might have actually said.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#516602

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-24 13:59 -0700
Message-ID<16d74eec-5a26-447f-b670-e11ba44c3fe1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#516564
So- you won't track it down for me?
What good are you, Odd?
)Just kidding, I enjoy your replies(

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#516604

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-24 14:05 -0700
Message-ID<736639af-2d29-485e-8be6-0e20c517550e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#516602
Here, Odd:
"As for testing the possibility of antigravity between matter and antimatter, the upcoming AEGIS experiment at CERN could provide some answers. The experiment will compare how the Earth's gravity affects hydrogen and antihydrogen atoms, and could give scientists a better understanding of antimatter's gravitational properties."

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#516637

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-24 17:18 -0500
Message-ID<mrg56q$en6$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#516604
On 8/24/2015 4:05 PM, john wrote:
> Here, Odd:
> "As for testing the possibility of antigravity between matter and antimatter, the
> upcoming AEGIS experiment at CERN could provide some answers. The experiment will
> compare how the Earth's gravity affects hydrogen and antihydrogen atoms, and could
> give scientists a better understanding of antimatter's gravitational properties."
>

Thanks for looking this up.

One thing you should keep in mind that if matter repels antimatter 
gravitationally, this would have nothing to do with why fermions in 
identical quantum states repel each other.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#516652

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-24 15:49 -0700
Message-ID<feadc8e2-bf06-4054-a08c-1fb060a1a5db@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#516637
Here, Odd
Read up on this guy:

"But in the new study, Massimo Villata, an astrophysicist at the Observatory of Turin in Italy, suggests the effects attributed to dark energy are actually due to a kind of "antigravity" created when normal matter and antimatter repel one another."

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#516737

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-25 08:10 -0500
Message-ID<mrhpgn$1ho$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#516652
On 8/24/2015 5:49 PM, john wrote:
> Here, Odd
> Read up on this guy:
>
> "But in the new study, Massimo Villata, an astrophysicist at the Observatory of Turin in
> Italy, suggests the effects attributed to dark energy are actually due to a kind of
> "antigravity" created when normal matter and antimatter repel one another."
>

Which is a supposition based on a possible outcome of the AEGIS 
experiment. Of course, if the AEGIS experiment comes out otherwise 
(antimatter attracts matter), then this supposition is immediately 
trashed. So we await the experimental results.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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