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  A Very High Energy Atomic Orbital (Video) Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-11 04:51 +0000
    Re: A Very High Energy Atomic Orbital (Video) Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2015-08-11 01:41 -0400
      Re: A Very High Energy Atomic Orbital (Video) Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-11 06:11 +0000
        that you agree with noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 12:36 -0700
        Re: A Very High Energy Atomic Orbital (Video) Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 22:01 +0200
    Re: A Very High Energy Atomic Orbital (Video) gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-11 19:47 -0500
      Re: A Very High Energy Atomic Orbital (Video) john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 19:31 -0700
        Re: A Very High Energy Atomic Orbital (Video) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 09:05 -0500
          Re: A Very High Energy Atomic Orbital (Video) john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:09 -0700
            Re: A Very High Energy Atomic Orbital (Video) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 10:38 -0500
    Re: A Very High Energy Atomic Orbital (Video) "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 00:36 -0700
      Re: A Very High Energy Atomic Orbital (Video) "Mappable" <invalid@example.com> - 2015-08-12 12:38 -0700
    Re: A Very High Energy Atomic Orbital (Video) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-08-12 16:42 +0000

#512612 — A Very High Energy Atomic Orbital (Video)

The magic of Maxima and Geomview on a Linux system.

Schroedinger equation solution for a one-electron, hydrogen-like
atom with quantum numbers n=10, l=7, m=5

This is a VERY HIGH ENERGY STATE.

What does this orbital look like?

-----> The result will knock your socks off. <----

Tune in to the exciting video:

https://vid.me/FXEA

Resolution: 1280x720

Time: 8:32

You won't find this in any reference book or journal article.

It's only available right here.

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#512619

On 11/08/2015 12:51 AM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> The magic of Maxima and Geomview on a Linux system.
>
> Schroedinger equation solution for a one-electron, hydrogen-like
> atom with quantum numbers n=10, l=7, m=5
>
> This is a VERY HIGH ENERGY STATE.
>
> What does this orbital look like?
>
> -----> The result will knock your socks off. <----
>
> Tune in to the exciting video:
>
> https://vid.me/FXEA
>
> Resolution: 1280x720
>
> Time: 8:32
>
> You won't find this in any reference book or journal article.
>
> It's only available right here.

It does go to show books are highly limited in the information that they 
can show us. These sort of things need to really be visualized with 
computers and video like this.

	Yousuf Khan

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#512624

On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 01:41:30 -0400, Yousuf Khan wrote:

> 
> It does go to show books are highly limited in the information that they 
> can show us. These sort of things need to really be visualized with 
> computers and video like this.
> 

I am glad that you agree.

In my view, the entire college/university curriculum should be
revamped and centered around computer algebra software.  Far
too much emphasis is placed on "busy work" that avoids a direct
grappling with the fundamentals.

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#512800 — that you agree with

I have never programmed, beyond scripts for comm;
I don't use a calculator, at all, although
I'd like to get a slide-rule

> In my view, the entire college/university curriculum should be
> revamped and centered around computer algebra software.  Far
> too much emphasis is placed on "busy work" that avoids a direct
> grappling with the fundamentals.

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#512818

Dne 11/08/2015 v 08:11 Fabian Russell napsal(a):
> On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 01:41:30 -0400, Yousuf Khan wrote:
> 
>>
>> It does go to show books are highly limited in the information that they 
>> can show us. These sort of things need to really be visualized with 
>> computers and video like this.
>>
> 
> I am glad that you agree.
> 
> In my view, the entire college/university curriculum should be
> revamped and centered around computer algebra software.  Far
> too much emphasis is placed on "busy work" that avoids a direct
> grappling with the fundamentals.
> 

IMHO, modelling software should be just supporting tool,
as it can distract from experimental work
and from inventive theoretical analysis.

OTOH, it can greatly improve both,
if not used excessively.

-- 
Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )

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#512883

On 8/10/2015 11:51 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> The magic of Maxima and Geomview on a Linux system.
>
> Schroedinger equation solution for a one-electron, hydrogen-like
> atom with quantum numbers n=10, l=7, m=5
>
> This is a VERY HIGH ENERGY STATE.
>
> What does this orbital look like?
>
> -----> The result will knock your socks off. <----
>
> Tune in to the exciting video:
>
> https://vid.me/FXEA
>
> Resolution: 1280x720
>
> Time: 8:32
>
> You won't find this in any reference book or journal article.
>
> It's only available right here.
>

Excellent!

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#512905

Pfft.
Playing with nonsensical numbers and
looking at nonsensical pictures.
Lovely.

Newsflash- math is not reality. Your
"pictures" prove it

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#512983

On 8/11/2015 9:31 PM, john wrote:
> Pfft.
> Playing with nonsensical numbers and
> looking at nonsensical pictures.

Numbers that agree with experimental measurement cannot possibly be 
nonsense. Measurements tell you what REALITY is. The way you tell what's 
real is you MEASURE it. If you reject that, then science just isn't for you.

And with the pictures, the problem is you look at the pictures but don't 
read the words describing the pictures. You want the pictures to be 
self-explanatory and immediately intuitive. So when you see a picture 
that has features you don't understand, you say it's nonsensical. It's 
not nonsensical. You just haven't done the work to read the words behind 
it that explains it.

> Lovely.
>
> Newsflash- math is not reality. Your
> "pictures" prove it
>

The pictures agree with measurement, and that PROVES that they are 
closely matched to reality.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#513000

Pfft. The numbers are from a 
theory. They are then run through 
complicated equations- also from a
theory. Then a program shows
you what that looks like: GARBAGE.

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#513009

On 8/12/2015 10:09 AM, john wrote:
> Pfft. The numbers are from a
> theory. They are then run through
> complicated equations- also from a
> theory. Then a program shows
> you what that looks like: GARBAGE.
>

Right, numbers come from two places
1) From a theory, which calculates it using equations.
2) From measurements taken in observation or experiment.

Science involves comparing the numbers from (1) with the numbers from 
(2). If the numbers agree consistently, then this is how you know the 
theory is good. If the numbers do not agree, then this is how you know 
the theory doesn't work. If you can't generated (1) at all, this is how 
you know you don't even have a theory.

Now, John, if you're going to call all this garbage, then you're just 
saying that you don't get how science works, or that you get it and you 
think it sucks. So either way, why do you post here?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#512929

On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 7:52:57 AM UTC+3, Fabian Russell wrote:
> The magic of Maxima and Geomview on a Linux system.
> 
> Schroedinger equation solution for a one-electron, hydrogen-like
> atom with quantum numbers n=10, l=7, m=5
> 
> This is a VERY HIGH ENERGY STATE.
> 
> What does this orbital look like?
> 
> -----> The result will knock your socks off. <----
> 
> Tune in to the exciting video:
> 
> https://vid.me/FXEA
> 
> Resolution: 1280x720
> 
> Time: 8:32
> 
> You won't find this in any reference book or journal article.
> 
> It's only available right here.

===========================
an orbital
is not just a f en formula smeared on a paper !!

Y.P
==================================

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#513056

Get-a-brain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_orbital

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#513021

On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 7:52:57 AM UTC+3, Fabian Russell wrote:
> 
> Schroedinger equation solution for a one-electron, hydrogen-like
> atom with quantum numbers n=10, l=7, m=5

Thanks for posting this.  Very cool.

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