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Gravity Forces

Started by"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
First post2015-08-05 11:32 -0700
Last post2015-08-06 00:43 +0000
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  Gravity Forces "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:32 -0700
    Re: Gravity Forces Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 13:53 -0500
      Re: Gravity Forces HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 06:26 -0400
    Re: Gravity Forces "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-05 12:48 -0700
    Re: Gravity Forces "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 16:47 -0700
      Re: Gravity Forces Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 19:01 -0500
        Re: Gravity Forces gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-05 19:35 -0500
          Re: Gravity Forces "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 18:10 -0700
            Re: Gravity Forces "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-05 19:50 -0700
            Re: Gravity Forces gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-05 23:12 -0500
        Re: Gravity Forces Enomis Skating <anomis.edenomis@libero.it> - 2015-08-05 18:23 -0700
      Re: Gravity Forces Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 19:07 -0500
        Re: Gravity Forces "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 17:34 -0700
          Re: Gravity Forces Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 20:07 -0500
      Re: Gravity Forces HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 06:28 -0400
    Re: Gravity Forces Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 19:10 -0500
      Re: Gravity Forces "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 17:37 -0700
        Re: Gravity Forces gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-05 23:20 -0500
      Re: Gravity Forces R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-06 00:43 +0000

#511430 — Gravity Forces

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-05 11:32 -0700
SubjectGravity Forces
Message-ID<1a4b8db5-f17c-4973-8685-9e95f2b4fbd3@googlegroups.com>
Gravity forces come in every strength. From infinite weak to infinite strong. A force for creating universes,and forces to create all that is needed,and evolve the universe to ":NOW"  G=EMC^2   TreBert

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#511435

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-05 13:53 -0500
Message-ID<mJKdnV6ZZ4MMxl_InZ2dnUU7-VudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#511430
On 8/5/15 1:32 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> Gravity forces come in every strength. From infinite weak to infinite strong.

   No--the strength of gravity is just proportions to product of the
   masses and inversely proportional to the distance squared between
   them. Newton figured this out three hundred years ago. Where where
   you, reber?

   Newton's Law of Gravitation
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_law_of_universal_gravitation



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#511543

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-06 06:26 -0400
Message-ID<mpvclh$nms$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#511435
On 8/5/2015 2:53 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 8/5/15 1:32 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>> Gravity forces come in every strength. From infinite weak to infinite
>> strong.
>
>    No--the strength of gravity is just proportions to product of the
>    masses and inversely proportional to the distance squared between
>    them. Newton figured this out three hundred years ago. Where where
>    you, reber?


Bert was sleeping off a drunk while Newton did his work.


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#511455

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2015-08-05 12:48 -0700
Message-ID<mptpc6$sb1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#511430
<herbertglazier0@gmail.com> Glazier, the Swine "reber g=emc^2" wrote
"Shit & Glazierola"  <snipped>.
>
hanson wrote:
Glazier, "your posts only show how mentally sick you are.
When Bush gave our treasury to the bankers the mental 
hospitals had to close.Its a pity for people like you needed 
these hospitals. Find a Jewish doctor and be on medicare." 
>
Glazier, if the above 4 lines, which are *your* own words, 
are not familiar to you, don't worry because your demented, 
senile condition becomes already apparent as soon as ...
>>
<herbertglazier0@gmail.com>Glazier, the Swine, Cretin,
Hate monger, Jewish Jailbird, Faceshitter & Graveyard
vandal, Racist and Bigot "reber g=emc^2" has introduced
himself as/with  <http://tinyurl.com/Swine-Glazier> 
who needs to be administered to with.
<http://tinyurl.com/G-EMC2-Recall-Therapy>

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#511483

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-05 16:47 -0700
Message-ID<12b0db7f-327e-4506-9919-135ed7381014@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#511430
On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 11:32:50 AM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> Gravity forces come in every strength. From infinite weak to infinite strong. A force for creating universes,and forces to create all that is needed,and evolve the universe to ":NOW"  G=EMC^2   TreBert

Sam A photon has infinitly weak gravity,and a BH has infinitly strong gravity.What they have that relates is their weak or strong gravity field goes to infinity. Get the picture TreBert

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#511484

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-05 19:01 -0500
Message-ID<iNadnSC6oYJHPl_InZ2dnUU7-WudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#511483
On 8/5/15 6:47 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> A photon has infinitly weak gravity

   Do not be silly, reber, depending on wavelength the Energy
     E = hc/λ

   One can use E = mc^2 to determine equivalent mass.  It is not
   infinitely small and does exert a tiny gravitational force as
   it whizzes by.


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#511489

Fromgilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-08-05 19:35 -0500
Message-ID<mpua4e$eqe$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#511484
On 8/5/2015 7:01 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 8/5/15 6:47 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>> A photon has infinitly weak gravity
>
>    Do not be silly, reber, depending on wavelength the Energy
>      E = hc/λ
>
>    One can use E = mc^2 to determine equivalent mass.  It is not
>    infinitely small and does exert a tiny gravitational force as
>    it whizzes by.
>
>

how big is infinitely small ?

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#511497

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-05 18:10 -0700
Message-ID<d9693093-0764-4c5c-95d4-9b3752d42674@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#511489
On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 5:35:31 PM UTC-7, gilber34 wrote:
> On 8/5/2015 7:01 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > On 8/5/15 6:47 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> >> A photon has infinitly weak gravity
> >
> >    Do not be silly, reber, depending on wavelength the Energy
> >      E = hc/λ
> >
> >    One can use E = mc^2 to determine equivalent mass.  It is not
> >    infinitely small and does exert a tiny gravitational force as
> >    it whizzes by.
> >
> >
> 
> how big is infinitely small ?

Infinite small is the universe compressed to a singularity.Keep in mind a trillion singularity can sit on top of a pin,and still have room to vibrate. Is that small enough?

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#511508

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2015-08-05 19:50 -0700
Message-ID<mpuhum$hha$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#511497
<herbertglazier0@gmail.com> "reber g=emc^2" wrote
11:32 Gravity forces come in every strength. From infinite weak to infinite
strong. A force for creating universes,and forces to create all that is
needed,and evolve the universe to ":NOW"  G=EMC^2   TreBert
>
16:47 Sam A photon has infinitly weak gravity,and a BH has infinitly strong
gravity.What they have that relates is their weak or strong gravity field
goes to infinity. Get the picture TreBert?
>
17:34 SAm BHs create universes by their force of gravity.I rest my case.
TreBert
>
18:10 Infinite small is the universe compressed to a singularity.Keep in
mind a trillion singularity can sit on top of a pin,and still have room to
vibrate. Is that small enough?
>
17:37  Sam God,or gravity for "G" garbage stinks of brain decaying. TreBert
>
hanson wrote:
Glazier, "your posts only show how mentally sick you are.
When Bush gave our treasury to the bankers the mental
hospitals had to close.Its a pity for people like you needed
these hospitals. Find a Jewish doctor and be on medicare."
>
Glazier, if the above 4 lines, which are *your* own words,
are not familiar to you, don't worry because your demented,
senile condition becomes already apparent as soon as ...
>>
<herbertglazier0@gmail.com> :B::ert Glazier, the Swine,
Hate monger, Jewish Jailbird, Faceshitter & Graveyard
vandal, Racist and Bigot "reber g=emc^2" has introduced
himself as/with
>
:B:: "I am a proud Jew with a Superiority complex &
:B:: an IQ of 122", & "I do know how everything works,.."
:B:: "Being Jewish I know this is so very true" -- Bert.
:B:: "I'm a non-bible(torra) Jew I'm the only Jew that
:B:: got 2 letters from two Popes. Bert
:B:: "I gave G=EMC^2 (wrong & stolen) to the world"
:B:: ***** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert *****
:B:: "Even the FBI has me as a trouble maker and
:B:: the FBI blocks my phone from calling them. "....
:B:: cuz "I was mixing sulfur,carbon & iron together
:B:: to make gun powder" ... which happened after....
>
(3)
On 07Feb 2015 & on 08Feb2015:
when <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>, the Jewish Swine wrote:
Harlow HVAC, Saul Levy & Benj, I'll be sitting on your face
to take a shit & say: "Open wide". ... after.
>
(2)
On 06Dec2014, you, Hebe Herbie, said to
"benj" <nobody@gmail.com>: Reality is you always post under
me for you are an ass kisser. For Christmas I'll shit on your kisser.
Benj, you can thank me in advance. - TreBert. ... after
>
(1)
On 25Mar2008 Swine Glazier wrote in:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/3ffe7b2257cf8a9a
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/sci.physics/uYtpFTRnW4k/morPVyJ7_j8J
Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And have agood laugh
when it seeps down on your face. -- Bert.
>
(above template to be used to snip Bert's Glazierola and
to administer loving "Recall Therapy" for Swine Glazier
until Glazier acknowledges that Glazier is a Swine.
>
and Moderator General "HVAC" <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Harlow Campbell succinctly added & wrote:
>
"Bert, your opinion doesn't count"
"Bert you are an idiot."
"TreBert, you are one stupid cocksucker".
"Bert, Seriously. You are the stupidest cocksucking
moron who ever came down the Mass Pike.
"Bert, does your stupidity know no bounds?"
"Bert, you really are a pathetic excuse for a human
fucking being". "Bert is a racist. (And he's stupid too)"
"Bert, are the stupidest cocksucker on the planet."
"Spin THIS, Glazier, you fucking idiot." "Bert get
some spelling lessons, you feeble-minded fuck".
"Bert, you are a clueless cocksucker .... and "Bert
you are senile, dazed & confused. Fucked in the head.
"a trained cockroach is smarter than Bert"
"Bert, you should be arrested"
"Bert, I will call the police and tell them that your
van seems to be a center for drug activity in the
Wal-Mart parking lot".
>
--
>
<http://tinyurl.com/G-EMC2-Recall-Therapy>
<http://tinyurl.com/Swine-Glazier>.


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#511513

Fromgilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-08-05 23:12 -0500
Message-ID<mpums8$66f$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#511497
On 8/5/2015 8:10 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 5:35:31 PM UTC-7, gilber34 wrote:
>> On 8/5/2015 7:01 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>> On 8/5/15 6:47 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>>>> A photon has infinitly weak gravity
>>>
>>> Do not be silly, reber, depending on wavelength the Energy E =
>>> hc/λ
>>>
>>> One can use E = mc^2 to determine equivalent mass.  It is not
>>> infinitely small and does exert a tiny gravitational force as it
>>> whizzes by.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> how big is infinitely small ?
>
> Infinite small is the universe compressed to a singularity.Keep in
> mind a trillion singularity can sit on top of a pin,and still have
> room to vibrate. Is that small enough?
>

so you could carry it around, then later put it on the ground, add water 
and poof !!  The Expanding Universe takes you, yer house, +city, Earth, 
and da solar system out for good.

so who got it compressed and then put it on pin ?  Was he showing off?

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#511498

FromEnomis Skating <anomis.edenomis@libero.it>
Date2015-08-05 18:23 -0700
Message-ID<8fdd5135-e1be-471a-9609-1fc2e465c770@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#511484
Il giorno giovedì 6 agosto 2015 02:01:33 UTC+2, Sam Wormley ha scritto:
> On 8/5/15 6:47 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > A photon has infinitly weak gravity
> 
>    Do not be silly, reber, depending on wavelength the Energy
>      E = hc/λ

Or, depending on frequency: E = hf
 
>    One can use E = mc^2 to determine equivalent mass.  

As it stands, for a photon it means that m = hf/c^2 which is not zero. 
So either E = mc^2 is not general or the photon is not massless.

>    It is not
>    infinitely small and does exert a tiny gravitational force as
>    it whizzes by.

Caution is needed when teaching, and much more so when popularizing science.

regards
Angelo

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#511485

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-05 19:07 -0500
Message-ID<iNadnSO6oYKxOF_InZ2dnUU7-WudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#511483
On 8/5/15 6:47 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> a BH has infinitly strong gravity

   Nope -- Black holes do not have infinitely strong gravity.

   The surface gravity is equal to c^4/4MG
   where G is Newton's Gravitational Constant, M the black hole mass,
   and c is the speed of light. It is not infinite!


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#511488

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-05 17:34 -0700
Message-ID<b0dbe38c-d855-42b6-b928-dc201dd5f807@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#511485
On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 5:07:11 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 8/5/15 6:47 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > a BH has infinitly strong gravity
> 
>    Nope -- Black holes do not have infinitely strong gravity.
> 
>    The surface gravity is equal to c^4/4MG
>    where G is Newton's Gravitational Constant, M the black hole mass,
>    and c is the speed of light. It is not infinite!
> 
> 
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> 
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SAm BHs create universes by their force of gravity.I rest my case. TreBert

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#511496

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-05 20:07 -0500
Message-ID<iNadnV26oYLFLl_InZ2dnUU7-WudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#511488
On 8/5/15 7:34 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> SAm BHs create universes by their force of gravity.I rest my case. TreBert

   No!


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#511544

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-06 06:28 -0400
Message-ID<mpvcpq$nms$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#511483
On 8/5/2015 7:47 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>
> Sam A photon has infinitly weak gravity,and a BH has infinitly strong gravity


So a black hole of double the size you postulate would have it's gravity 
as 2 times infinity?

Logical


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#511487

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-05 19:10 -0500
Message-ID<iNadnSK6oYKSO1_InZ2dnUU7-WudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#511430
On 8/5/15 1:32 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>  G=EMC^2

    This is not a valid equation, reber. It is in fact garbage.


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#511490

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-05 17:37 -0700
Message-ID<66c8599d-62a7-4dbe-8227-25d4f2c319c3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#511487
On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 5:10:58 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 8/5/15 1:32 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> >  G=EMC^2
> 
>     This is not a valid equation, reber. It is in fact garbage.
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
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Sam God,or gravity for "G" garbage stinks of brain decaying. TreBert

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#511514

Fromgilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-08-05 23:20 -0500
Message-ID<mpunaj$6v6$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#511490
On 8/5/2015 7:37 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 5:10:58 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> On 8/5/15 1:32 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>>>   G=EMC^2
>>
>>      This is not a valid equation, reber. It is in fact garbage.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
>> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
>> community, and physics-related social issues.
>
> Sam God,or gravity for "G" garbage stinks of brain decaying. TreBert
>

G = EMC^2

given E = MC^2
then EMC^2 = E^2 or M^2*C^4 = (MC^2)^2

also G = E*E = (M*C*C)*(M*C*C) = MCCMCC  which is very close to MOOMOO
G = MooMoo

G is god, if you have cow god MooMoo. [ or  (Moo)^2 ]

also Squareroot(God) = Moo

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#511492

FromR Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com>
Date2015-08-06 00:43 +0000
Message-ID<mpuair$rkn$1@odin.sdf-eu.org>
In reply to#511487
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/5/15 1:32 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>>  G=EMC^2
>    This is not a valid equation, reber. It is in fact garbage.

Random associations flashed across the internal screen --
Blish's explanation of the spindizzy equation, etc.
(Uh, oh! And the story about the Dirac transmitter; you can
get lost in these kinds of mazes, so I'll stop that one there).

But my mind's eye settled for more than 1 msec on an old short
story which I'll probably get all wrong because I'm gettin ol
and keep writing "to" for "too" and "two" like I notice some people do
because it's a sign your over 50 and can't tell the diff between
you, your and you're and dont give a shit about spleen generallment.

Anyway. The story:

I guy is accosted by a weirdo in a park one night. Turns out
the weirdo is a time traveller trying to find the person responsible
for the destruction of civilization. 
The guy says it's not him but the traveller explains the collapse
was traced [12-monkeys style; the Bruce v1 did it better -- that series 
my intelligent sat TV hunted up is crap; sorry] to someone that 
came up with an equation I = \pi i exp(\mu) .
It seemed the proving or disproving of the theory behind the formula
resulted in numerous titatic explosions and a lot of ill-feeling all round.
In the future.
The guy claims he doesn't know anything about it, is not a scientist
and to shove off.
After a moments thought the traveller disappears in a puff of light.
"Well I'll be a pie-eyed emu" the guy exclaims. "What a wierdo!"

--
[The UAH LT series:]
Previously reported discrepancies between the amount of warming near the 
surface and higher in the atmosphere have been used to challenge the 
reliability of climate models and the reality of human-induced global warming
... This significant discrepancy no longer exists because errors in the 
satellite and radiosonde data have been identified and corrected. New data 
sets have also been developed that do not show such discrepancies.
-- John Christy, Ben Santer et al, 2006

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