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| Started by | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| First post | 2016-06-27 23:15 -0500 |
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Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-27 23:15 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-06-28 14:12 -0400
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-06-28 13:58 -0700
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-06-28 19:42 -0400
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-29 01:14 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-06-28 23:45 -0700
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-06-29 10:31 -0700
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-06-29 14:48 -0400
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-28 18:23 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-29 14:15 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-06-30 18:13 -0400
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-30 20:40 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 01:50 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-30 21:20 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 05:57 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 11:22 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 16:34 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 12:19 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 17:39 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 13:02 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 18:58 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 14:23 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 19:38 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:10 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 20:32 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 15:54 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:11 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 17:33 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 18:05 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 09:18 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 10:10 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 12:25 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 17:44 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 12:57 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 19:03 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 14:33 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 14:41 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 14:55 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 20:15 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:19 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 20:33 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:02 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 21:19 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:47 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 22:42 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 18:11 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 00:26 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 19:41 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 01:04 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:27 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 05:35 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 09:16 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 17:41 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:52 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 22:38 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 20:12 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 15:37 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:54 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 16:03 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:34 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 22:03 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 17:23 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 22:46 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 18:19 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 00:27 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 19:43 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 01:05 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:32 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 09:23 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 10:08 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 11:53 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 12:26 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 17:43 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 13:45 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:49 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 22:57 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 17:25 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 18:01 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 00:32 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:03 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 05:39 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 09:35 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 17:54 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:03 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 22:43 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 19:58 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 01:12 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 23:20 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 06:00 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-03 09:45 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 17:04 +0000
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:44 -0500
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die; sick or not, Swiss or not. ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 21:38 -0500
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-02 19:00 -0400
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 23:24 +0000
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-07-02 16:36 -0700
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-02 19:59 -0400
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-07-02 17:06 -0700
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-07-02 21:08 -0600
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-07-02 20:32 -0700
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-07-03 14:58 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 19:55 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:16 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 20:37 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:59 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 21:21 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:45 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 22:12 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 17:36 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 00:38 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:16 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 05:41 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 10:05 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 17:55 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:05 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 14:46 -0700
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 17:07 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-03 00:05 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 22:44 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 20:05 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 14:10 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:41 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-03 00:16 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-03 10:33 -0500
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 18:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m3ri4d-349.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #587496 |
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:39:07 -0000, > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:34:54 -0000, >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> >>>> How about once in your life you actually look something up instead of >>>> spouting your usual nonsense? >>> >>> Hmm. How about once in your life you don't run to >>> others? Aren't you comfortable with your own head? >> >> Extremely, which is why I called you post blazingly stupid, but I am >> not about to type in a bunch of information that is readily available >> to correct your astonding ignorance. >> > > "Information that is readily available." Yes. Try doing some reading first and maybe the percentage of your posts that are ignorant nonsense will drop from near 100%. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 14:23 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <17kaqn3538w6d.tjecajoqm0i$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #587509 |
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 18:58:30 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:39:07 -0000, >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> >>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:34:54 -0000, >>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> How about once in your life you actually look something up instead of >>>>> spouting your usual nonsense? >>>> >>>> Hmm. How about once in your life you don't run to >>>> others? Aren't you comfortable with your own head? >>> >>> Extremely, which is why I called you post blazingly stupid, but I am >>> not about to type in a bunch of information that is readily available >>> to correct your astonding ignorance. >>> >> >> "Information that is readily available." > > Yes. > > Try doing some reading first and maybe the percentage of your posts > that are ignorant nonsense will drop from near 100%. > Before even thinking about it? No I won't. Speaking of curare. It is a wonderful drug. It has no other side effects! It goes directly where the problem is. Curare in kill doses should be available to anybody who wants to kill himself. It is much more humane than asphyxiation by hanging. Robin Williams needed curare, not a belt! I wished authorities would let anyone who wants to kill himself to do so humanely. Most of murder suicides are "assisted" suicides. The way Robin Williams left is shameful. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 19:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <afti4d-vb9.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #587513 |
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 18:58:30 -0000, > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:39:07 -0000, >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> >>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:34:54 -0000, >>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> How about once in your life you actually look something up instead of >>>>>> spouting your usual nonsense? >>>>> >>>>> Hmm. How about once in your life you don't run to >>>>> others? Aren't you comfortable with your own head? >>>> >>>> Extremely, which is why I called you post blazingly stupid, but I am >>>> not about to type in a bunch of information that is readily available >>>> to correct your astonding ignorance. >>>> >>> >>> "Information that is readily available." >> >> Yes. >> >> Try doing some reading first and maybe the percentage of your posts >> that are ignorant nonsense will drop from near 100%. >> > > Before even thinking about it? No I won't. Then you will always be the ignorant, silly fool you are now. <snip ignorant, babbling nonsense> -- Jim Pennino
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| From | ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 15:10 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <bdvb3ms6al67.1ipgo9ob4rn1q$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #587521 |
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:38:50 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 18:58:30 -0000, >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> >>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:39:07 -0000, >>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:34:54 -0000, >>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> How about once in your life you actually look something up instead of >>>>>>> spouting your usual nonsense? >>>>>> >>>>>> Hmm. How about once in your life you don't run to >>>>>> others? Aren't you comfortable with your own head? >>>>> >>>>> Extremely, which is why I called you post blazingly stupid, but I am >>>>> not about to type in a bunch of information that is readily available >>>>> to correct your astonding ignorance. >>>>> >>>> >>>> "Information that is readily available." >>> >>> Yes. >>> >>> Try doing some reading first and maybe the percentage of your posts >>> that are ignorant nonsense will drop from near 100%. >>> >> >> Before even thinking about it? No I won't. > > Then you will always be the ignorant, silly fool you are now. > Then you will always read, response, and provide useful links for me. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 20:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <7j0j4d-lm9.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #587526 |
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:38:50 -0000, > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 18:58:30 -0000, >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> >>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:39:07 -0000, >>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:34:54 -0000, >>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How about once in your life you actually look something up instead of >>>>>>>> spouting your usual nonsense? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hmm. How about once in your life you don't run to >>>>>>> others? Aren't you comfortable with your own head? >>>>>> >>>>>> Extremely, which is why I called you post blazingly stupid, but I am >>>>>> not about to type in a bunch of information that is readily available >>>>>> to correct your astonding ignorance. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Information that is readily available." >>>> >>>> Yes. >>>> >>>> Try doing some reading first and maybe the percentage of your posts >>>> that are ignorant nonsense will drop from near 100%. >>>> >>> >>> Before even thinking about it? No I won't. >> >> Then you will always be the ignorant, silly fool you are now. >> > > Then you will always read, response, and provide > useful links for me. Nope, I will just point out what an ignorant idiot you are. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 15:54 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nl6la0$np9$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #587513 |
On 7/1/2016 2:23 PM, ClutterFreak wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 18:58:30 -0000, > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:39:07 -0000, >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> >>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:34:54 -0000, >>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> How about once in your life you actually look something up instead of >>>>>> spouting your usual nonsense? >>>>> >>>>> Hmm. How about once in your life you don't run to >>>>> others? Aren't you comfortable with your own head? >>>> >>>> Extremely, which is why I called you post blazingly stupid, but I am >>>> not about to type in a bunch of information that is readily available >>>> to correct your astonding ignorance. >>>> >>> >>> "Information that is readily available." >> >> Yes. >> >> Try doing some reading first and maybe the percentage of your posts >> that are ignorant nonsense will drop from near 100%. >> > > Before even thinking about it? No I won't. > > Speaking of curare. It is a wonderful drug. It has no > other side effects! It goes directly where the problem > is. > > Curare in kill doses should be available to anybody > who wants to kill himself. It is much more humane than > asphyxiation by hanging. Robin Williams needed curare, > not a belt! > > I wished authorities would let anyone who wants to > kill himself to do so humanely. you are not yet aware of something common in usa hospitals. Curare is not used, morphine is, for several reasons. WIKI SAYS ... Curare /kʊˈrɑːri/[1] or /kjʊˈrɑːri/[2] is a common name for various plant extract alkaloid arrow poisons originating from Central and South America. These poisons function by competitively and reversibly inhibiting the nicotinic acetylcholine receptor (nAChR), which is a subtype of acetylcholine receptor found at the neuromuscular junction. This causes weakness of the skeletal muscles and, when administered in a sufficient dose, eventual death by asphyxiation due to paralysis of the diaphragm. Modern anesthetists have at their disposal a variety of muscle relaxants for use in anesthesia. The ability to produce muscle relaxation irrespective of sedation has permitted anesthetists to adjust the two effects independently and on the fly to ensure that their patients are safely unconscious and sufficiently relaxed to permit surgery. The use of neuromuscular blocking drugs carries with it a very small risk of anesthesia awareness. Curare is only hazardous in the bloodstream, not swallowed by mouth. Therefore, experienced Amazonian poison makers can safely taste the curare, judging how intense it is from its degree of bitterness. Another way the potency of curare is tested is by shooting the poison into a frog and seeing how many times it hops before the frog stops moving. Once the potent paste is ready, the tips of darts and arrows are coated with the substance. Hunters must be careful not to cut or scrape themselves with the dangerous tips, lest they become the victims. -Curare is an alkaloid, and acts as a neuromuscular blocking agent to produce paralysis in muscles. It first affects the muscles of the toes, ears, and eyes, then those of the neck, arms and legs, and finally, those involved in breathing. In fatal doses, death is caused by respiratory paralysis. Curare must get into the blood system for it to work. It doesn't hurt to eat something killed by a poisoned curare arrow, for instance. (Early 1700s) Originally found in South America Used for dart poison death by muscle paralysis (stricnine does this too, very painful) It's name: comes from the word "viraery", vira = bird, eor = kill. Charles de la Condamine --> scientist, first witnessed the Ticunus indians use it. Alexander Von Humboldt --> plant collector, first saw WHERE they got the poison (the bark of the Strychnos family of trees). Neuromuscular-blocking agent Claude Bernard and his injected frog: Curare blocks conduction of nerve impulse to the muscles. Late 1800s, early 1900s: Various doctors tried to use it as a way to cure things such as tetanus and rabies, however almost every experiment failed and ended fatally. 1930s: Richard Gill: sold Curare to ER Squibb, anesthetics becomes a possibility. Later, other scientist and doctors took this idea of anesthetics to the next levelllll...... ;) Curare Cures Krystal, Juliana, Hannah, Rosie Time even eyes are paralyzed- difficult to confirm consciousness Artificial Respiration Acetylcholinesterase inhibitor (AChEl) inhibits enzyme from breaking down ACh block transmission at neuromuscular junction can act presynaptically (inhibit acetylcholine - ACh) or postsynaptically (block acetylcholine receptor) Curare - blocks nicotinic acetylcholine receptor (nAChR) D-tubocurarine active agent competitive antagonist skeletal muscle relaxant slow onset (60 seconds to 15 minutes) long duration (30 minutes to 8 hours) large molecules - cannot enter bloodstream through digestive system must enter directly into bloodstream C H N O 37 41 2 6 + improved effectiveness and safety of anesthesiology marks the beginning of neuromuscular blocking agents
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| From | ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 16:11 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1pnzzuy5zp9xt$.14v1whtecd5n2$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #587535 |
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 15:54:09 -0500, Sergio wrote: > It first affects the muscles of the toes, > ears, and eyes, then those of the neck, arms and legs, and finally, > those involved in breathing. See right there, there is a window of action that is safe and effective. If you are in bed, you'll lose ability to move your eyeballs for a little while but your leg cramps will be history. Muscles relax while you perhaps take another nap. If the duration is only a few minutes no harm is done, all is benefit. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 17:33 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nl6r3m$10j9$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #587539 |
On 7/1/2016 4:11 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 15:54:09 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>
>> It first affects the muscles of the toes,
>> ears, and eyes, then those of the neck, arms and legs, and finally,
>> those involved in breathing.
>
> See right there, there is a window of action that is
> safe and effective. If you are in bed, you'll lose
> ability to move your eyeballs for a little while but
> your leg cramps will be history. Muscles relax while
> you perhaps take another nap. If the duration is only
> a few minutes no harm is done, all is benefit.
>
why don't you try that and report back ?
If it is used in surgery, it is used with several other drugs to do more
things to the pacient, lots of info on the internet about it, do you get
that where you are at ? or do they have some of the internet cut off ?
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| From | ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 18:05 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <182m79ecy51f4.132gmzj5fcq4n$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #587562 |
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:33:12 -0500, Sergio wrote: > On 7/1/2016 4:11 PM, ClutterFreak wrote: >> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 15:54:09 -0500, Sergio wrote: >> >>> It first affects the muscles of the toes, >>> ears, and eyes, then those of the neck, arms and legs, and finally, >>> those involved in breathing. >> >> See right there, there is a window of action that is >> safe and effective. If you are in bed, you'll lose >> ability to move your eyeballs for a little while but >> your leg cramps will be history. Muscles relax while >> you perhaps take another nap. If the duration is only >> a few minutes no harm is done, all is benefit. >> > > why don't you try that and report back ? > I don't have leg cramps :) > If it is used in surgery, it is used with several other drugs to do more > things to the pacient, lots of info on the internet about it, do you get > that where you are at ? or do they have some of the internet cut off ? If I had leg cramps I'd do a research on it. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-02 09:18 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nl8ig1$14ec$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #587572 |
On 7/1/2016 6:05 PM, ClutterFreak wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:33:12 -0500, Sergio wrote: > >> On 7/1/2016 4:11 PM, ClutterFreak wrote: >>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 15:54:09 -0500, Sergio wrote: >>> >>>> It first affects the muscles of the toes, >>>> ears, and eyes, then those of the neck, arms and legs, and finally, >>>> those involved in breathing. >>> See right there, there is a window of action that is >>> safe and effective. If you are in bed, you'll lose >>> ability to move your eyeballs for a little while but >>> your leg cramps will be history. Muscles relax while >>> you perhaps take another nap. If the duration is only >>> a few minutes no harm is done, all is benefit. >>> >> >> why don't you try that and report back ? >> > > I don't have leg cramps :) > >> If it is used in surgery, it is used with several other drugs to do more >> things to the pacient, lots of info on the internet about it, do you get >> that where you are at ? or do they have some of the internet cut off ? > > If I had leg cramps I'd do a research on it. > your brain is a muscle, you can fix your brain cramps!
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| From | ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-02 10:10 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ml5sgta5z8qs.spyywz7mcvpx.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #587634 |
On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 09:18:22 -0500, Sergio wrote: >> If I had leg cramps I'd do a research on it. >> > > your brain is a muscle, you can fix your brain cramps! Subject is you and your leg cramps. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 12:25 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1m6ytv4c8f5ha.148tsxlxwoc4d$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #587480 |
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:34:54 -0000, > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetanus#Treatment > That's what I was talking about: (from your link) "In extreme cases it may be necessary to paralyze the patient with curare-like drugs" The name is curare. A very little amount of it shouldn't be harmful for very bad cases of muscle spasm. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 17:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <momi4d-dl8.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #587488 |
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:34:54 -0000, > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetanus#Treatment >> > > > That's what I was talking about: (from your link) > > "In extreme cases it may be necessary to paralyze > the patient with curare-like drugs" > > The name is curare. A very little amount of it > shouldn't be harmful for very bad cases of muscle > spasm. A very little amount of it can kill you, fool, which is why doctors only use it in extreme cases and with great care. Note the phrase "paralyze the patient" and the text that talks about the necessity for life support when using it. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 12:57 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <9e808yyif3az.h9ytu3g4m7js$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #587494 |
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:44:22 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:34:54 -0000, > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetanus#Treatment >>> >> >> >> That's what I was talking about: (from your link) >> >> "In extreme cases it may be necessary to paralyze >> the patient with curare-like drugs" >> >> The name is curare. A very little amount of it >> shouldn't be harmful for very bad cases of muscle >> spasm. > > A very little amount of it can kill you, fool, which is why doctors > only use it in extreme cases and with great care. > > Note the phrase "paralyze the patient" and the text that talks about > the necessity for life support when using it. > Well then dilute it by another factor of 1000. There must be a safe and effective range in there somewhere that would only curb the spasm and nothing else. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 19:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <9cri4d-349.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #587495 |
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:44:22 -0000, > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:34:54 -0000, > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetanus#Treatment >>>> >>> >>> >>> That's what I was talking about: (from your link) >>> >>> "In extreme cases it may be necessary to paralyze >>> the patient with curare-like drugs" >>> >>> The name is curare. A very little amount of it >>> shouldn't be harmful for very bad cases of muscle >>> spasm. >> >> A very little amount of it can kill you, fool, which is why doctors >> only use it in extreme cases and with great care. >> >> Note the phrase "paralyze the patient" and the text that talks about >> the necessity for life support when using it. >> > > Well then dilute it by another factor of 1000. There > must be a safe and effective range in there somewhere > that would only curb the spasm and nothing else. Once again a little reading would have prevented yet another idiotic posting. "The toxicity of curare alkaloids in man hasn't been established." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curare#Toxicity -- Jim Pennino
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| From | ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 14:33 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <g892r63kmvi9$.1y30oni702to$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #587512 |
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:03:05 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:44:22 -0000, >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> >>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:34:54 -0000, > >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetanus#Treatment >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> That's what I was talking about: (from your link) >>>> >>>> "In extreme cases it may be necessary to paralyze >>>> the patient with curare-like drugs" >>>> >>>> The name is curare. A very little amount of it >>>> shouldn't be harmful for very bad cases of muscle >>>> spasm. >>> >>> A very little amount of it can kill you, fool, which is why doctors >>> only use it in extreme cases and with great care. >>> >>> Note the phrase "paralyze the patient" and the text that talks about >>> the necessity for life support when using it. >>> >> >> Well then dilute it by another factor of 1000. There >> must be a safe and effective range in there somewhere >> that would only curb the spasm and nothing else. > > Once again a little reading would have prevented yet another idiotic > posting. > > "The toxicity of curare alkaloids in man hasn't been established." > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curare#Toxicity > Then what's pharma for? They should establish it very precisely so it could be put to use. A lot of death anguish and pain is also from muscle spasms. I heard how someone died and last two hours of it was nothing but extreme pain from muscle spasm. That was just cancer. Who knows how people die in other ways. Why the hell haven't they started to use curare at least for the dying? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 14:41 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nl6h2m$h74$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #587517 |
On 7/1/2016 2:33 PM, ClutterFreak wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:03:05 -0000, > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:44:22 -0000, >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> > >>> Well then dilute it by another factor of 1000. There >>> must be a safe and effective range in there somewhere >>> that would only curb the spasm and nothing else. >> >> Once again a little reading would have prevented yet another idiotic >> posting. >> >> "The toxicity of curare alkaloids in man hasn't been established." >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curare#Toxicity >> > > Then what's pharma for? They should establish it very > precisely so it could be put to use. A lot of death > anguish and pain is also from muscle spasms. I heard > how someone died and last two hours of it was nothing > but extreme pain from muscle spasm. That was just > cancer. Who knows how people die in other ways. Why > the hell haven't they started to use curare at least > for the dying? curare is not a pain reliever, it is used in many operations in small amounts, had many benifits, google for it. they use morphine for extreme pain, and to check you out for good if you want that. if you have liver cancer, they cannot relieve the pain. so dont get liver cancer.
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| From | ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 14:55 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <9pmphglf8v3k$.1wx4ktu4wop5a.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #587520 |
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 14:41:59 -0500, Sergio wrote: > On 7/1/2016 2:33 PM, ClutterFreak wrote: >> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:03:05 -0000, >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> >>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:44:22 -0000, >>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>> >> > >>>> Well then dilute it by another factor of 1000. There >>>> must be a safe and effective range in there somewhere >>>> that would only curb the spasm and nothing else. >>> >>> Once again a little reading would have prevented yet another idiotic >>> posting. >>> >>> "The toxicity of curare alkaloids in man hasn't been established." >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curare#Toxicity >>> >> >> Then what's pharma for? They should establish it very >> precisely so it could be put to use. A lot of death >> anguish and pain is also from muscle spasms. I heard >> how someone died and last two hours of it was nothing >> but extreme pain from muscle spasm. That was just >> cancer. Who knows how people die in other ways. Why >> the hell haven't they started to use curare at least >> for the dying? > > > curare is not a pain reliever, > it is used in many operations in small amounts, had many benifits, > google for it. > > they use morphine for extreme pain, and to check you out for good if you > want that. > > if you have liver cancer, they cannot relieve the pain. > > so dont get liver cancer. The pain, in that case, was from spasm of her stomach muscles. Old and emaciated as she was, the spasms were intense enough to make her sit up each time and vomit (non-producing). She did that for two hours nonstop before she died. Fuck that. A little curare could let her die in a rest position and in peace. Her daughter watching this had to be hospitalized for hours for the shock! --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 20:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <8kvi4d-pi9.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #587524 |
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 14:41:59 -0500, Sergio wrote: > >> On 7/1/2016 2:33 PM, ClutterFreak wrote: >>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:03:05 -0000, >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> >>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:44:22 -0000, >>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> Well then dilute it by another factor of 1000. There >>>>> must be a safe and effective range in there somewhere >>>>> that would only curb the spasm and nothing else. >>>> >>>> Once again a little reading would have prevented yet another idiotic >>>> posting. >>>> >>>> "The toxicity of curare alkaloids in man hasn't been established." >>>> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curare#Toxicity >>>> >>> >>> Then what's pharma for? They should establish it very >>> precisely so it could be put to use. A lot of death >>> anguish and pain is also from muscle spasms. I heard >>> how someone died and last two hours of it was nothing >>> but extreme pain from muscle spasm. That was just >>> cancer. Who knows how people die in other ways. Why >>> the hell haven't they started to use curare at least >>> for the dying? >> >> >> curare is not a pain reliever, >> it is used in many operations in small amounts, had many benifits, >> google for it. >> >> they use morphine for extreme pain, and to check you out for good if you >> want that. >> >> if you have liver cancer, they cannot relieve the pain. >> >> so dont get liver cancer. > > The pain, in that case, was from spasm of her stomach > muscles. Old and emaciated as she was, the spasms were > intense enough to make her sit up each time and vomit > (non-producing). She did that for two hours nonstop > before she died. Fuck that. A little curare could let > her die in a rest position and in peace. She would have died unable to speak, move, or breathe, but still in pain, you uneducable idiot. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 15:19 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1a39s5t6wsuu1$.171fnwmlubue9$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #587527 |
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 20:15:36 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 14:41:59 -0500, Sergio wrote: >> >>> On 7/1/2016 2:33 PM, ClutterFreak wrote: >>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:03:05 -0000, >>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:44:22 -0000, >>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>> >>> >>>>>> Well then dilute it by another factor of 1000. There >>>>>> must be a safe and effective range in there somewhere >>>>>> that would only curb the spasm and nothing else. >>>>> >>>>> Once again a little reading would have prevented yet another idiotic >>>>> posting. >>>>> >>>>> "The toxicity of curare alkaloids in man hasn't been established." >>>>> >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curare#Toxicity >>>>> >>>> >>>> Then what's pharma for? They should establish it very >>>> precisely so it could be put to use. A lot of death >>>> anguish and pain is also from muscle spasms. I heard >>>> how someone died and last two hours of it was nothing >>>> but extreme pain from muscle spasm. That was just >>>> cancer. Who knows how people die in other ways. Why >>>> the hell haven't they started to use curare at least >>>> for the dying? >>> >>> >>> curare is not a pain reliever, >>> it is used in many operations in small amounts, had many benifits, >>> google for it. >>> >>> they use morphine for extreme pain, and to check you out for good if you >>> want that. >>> >>> if you have liver cancer, they cannot relieve the pain. >>> >>> so dont get liver cancer. >> >> The pain, in that case, was from spasm of her stomach >> muscles. Old and emaciated as she was, the spasms were >> intense enough to make her sit up each time and vomit >> (non-producing). She did that for two hours nonstop >> before she died. Fuck that. A little curare could let >> her die in a rest position and in peace. > > She would have died unable to speak, move, or breathe, but still in > pain, you uneducable idiot. > > Not with the right amount of curare, no. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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