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Predicting tornadoes months or even seasons in advance

Started bySam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
First post2015-09-13 19:09 -0500
Last post2015-09-13 22:12 -0700
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  Predicting tornadoes months or even seasons in advance Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 19:09 -0500
    Re: Predicting tornadoes months or even seasons in advance jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-14 00:41 +0000
      Re: Predicting tornadoes months or even seasons in advance Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 19:52 -0500
        Re: Predicting tornadoes months or even seasons in advance jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-14 01:08 +0000
          Re: Predicting tornadoes months or even seasons in advance Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 21:01 -0500
            Re: Predicting tornadoes months or even seasons in advance gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-09-13 21:47 -0500
            Re: Predicting tornadoes months or even seasons in advance jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-14 04:31 +0000
              Re: Predicting tornadoes months or even seasons in advance Bret Cahill <bretcahill@aol.com> - 2015-09-13 22:12 -0700

#520879 — Predicting tornadoes months or even seasons in advance

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-13 19:09 -0500
SubjectPredicting tornadoes months or even seasons in advance
Message-ID<ZIOdnUHaFtfUjWvInZ2dnUU7-VmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
Predicting tornadoes months or even seasons in advance
> http://phys.org/news/2015-09-tornadoes-months-seasons-advance.html



> A new model for predicting tornado activity could allow experts to
> prepare forecasts months or even seasons in advance, researchers at
> the University of Toronto say.

> "The aim is to predict ahead to the following year or subsequent
> years about whether we'll get above or below average tornado activity
> in a given area," said Vincent Cheng, a postdoctoral fellow in the
> Ecological Modelling Lab at the University of Toronto Scarborough
> (UTSC).

> Developed by Cheng, Professor George Arhonditsis and Professor Bill
> Gough in UTSC's Climate Lab along with colleagues at Environment
> Canada, the model uses large-scale atmospheric variables like those
> used by weather forecasters. But instead of trying to predict a
> tornado on any specific day, it looks at variations in monthly and
> seasonal tornado activity relative to changes in atmospheric
> conditions over the same period.

> Cheng said the model predicts how different conditions in the
> atmosphere during a thunderstorm will affect the risk of a tornado.
> The key variables the model relies on includes the instability of the
> atmosphere and vertical windshear, which is the change in wind speed
> and wind direction at different heights. These variables are
> important since there's a much higher risk of a tornado taking place
> when air is able to rise quickly coupled with a big change in wind
> speed and direction at different heights above the ground.

> Cheng's model also takes into account the lack of accurate records in
> tracking tornadoes. Tornado reports rely solely on eyewitness
> observations, which means they're better monitored in more populated
> areas. The model bypasses that by showing the strong relationship
> between atmospheric variables and actual tornado occurrences.



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#520892

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-09-14 00:41 +0000
Message-ID<2nhhcc-h2p.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#520879
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Predicting tornadoes months or even seasons in advance

As no one can predict even rain more than a few days in advance,
this is just arm waving, speculative, nonsense, spamming shit head.


-- 
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#520897

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-13 19:52 -0500
Message-ID<ZIOdnXnaFteqh2vInZ2dnUU7-VkAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#520892
On 9/13/15 7:41 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
> As no one can predict even rain more than a few days in advance,
> this is just arm waving, speculative, nonsense, spamming shit head.
>


   Now now, jimp, it sounds to me like you are still having another
   bad weekend. There is something you can do about that in your area:
   Try Rancho Cucamonga Anger Management Classes
> http://www.yellowpages.com/rancho-cucamonga-ca/anger-management-classes

   Someday, you will thank me, jimp.

   Predicting tornadoes months or even seasons in advance
 > http://phys.org/news/2015-09-tornadoes-months-seasons-advance.html

 > A new model for predicting tornado activity could allow experts to
 > prepare forecasts months or even seasons in advance, researchers at
 > the University of Toronto say.

 > "The aim is to predict ahead to the following year or subsequent
 > years about whether we'll get above or below average tornado activity
 > in a given area," said Vincent Cheng, a postdoctoral fellow in the
 > Ecological Modelling Lab at the University of Toronto Scarborough
 > (UTSC).

 > Developed by Cheng, Professor George Arhonditsis and Professor Bill
 > Gough in UTSC's Climate Lab along with colleagues at Environment
 > Canada, the model uses large-scale atmospheric variables like those
 > used by weather forecasters. But instead of trying to predict a
 > tornado on any specific day, it looks at variations in monthly and
 > seasonal tornado activity relative to changes in atmospheric
 > conditions over the same period.

 > Cheng said the model predicts how different conditions in the
 > atmosphere during a thunderstorm will affect the risk of a tornado.
 > The key variables the model relies on includes the instability of the
 > atmosphere and vertical windshear, which is the change in wind speed
 > and wind direction at different heights. These variables are
 > important since there's a much higher risk of a tornado taking place
 > when air is able to rise quickly coupled with a big change in wind
 > speed and direction at different heights above the ground.

 > Cheng's model also takes into account the lack of accurate records in
 > tracking tornadoes. Tornado reports rely solely on eyewitness
 > observations, which means they're better monitored in more populated
 > areas. The model bypasses that by showing the strong relationship
 > between atmospheric variables and actual tornado occurrences.


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#520911

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-09-14 01:08 +0000
Message-ID<99jhcc-kap.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#520897
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/13/15 7:41 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>> As no one can predict even rain more than a few days in advance,
>> this is just arm waving, speculative, nonsense, spamming shit head.
>>
> 
> 
>   Now now, jimp, 

Now, now, spamming shit head, where is your response to what I posted?

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#520919

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-13 21:01 -0500
Message-ID<ZIOdnXDaFtcKt2vInZ2dnUU7-VmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#520911
On 9/13/15 8:08 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Now, now, spamming shit head, where is your response to what I posted?

   Get help NOW, jimp. Try Rancho Cucamonga Anger Management Classes
> http://www.yellowpages.com/rancho-cucamonga-ca/anger-management-classes

   Someday, you will thank me, jimp.

   Predicting tornadoes months or even seasons in advance
 > http://phys.org/news/2015-09-tornadoes-months-seasons-advance.html

 > A new model for predicting tornado activity could allow experts to
 > prepare forecasts months or even seasons in advance, researchers at
 > the University of Toronto say.

 > "The aim is to predict ahead to the following year or subsequent
 > years about whether we'll get above or below average tornado activity
 > in a given area," said Vincent Cheng, a postdoctoral fellow in the
 > Ecological Modelling Lab at the University of Toronto Scarborough
 > (UTSC).

 > Developed by Cheng, Professor George Arhonditsis and Professor Bill
 > Gough in UTSC's Climate Lab along with colleagues at Environment
 > Canada, the model uses large-scale atmospheric variables like those
 > used by weather forecasters. But instead of trying to predict a
 > tornado on any specific day, it looks at variations in monthly and
 > seasonal tornado activity relative to changes in atmospheric
 > conditions over the same period.

 > Cheng said the model predicts how different conditions in the
 > atmosphere during a thunderstorm will affect the risk of a tornado.
 > The key variables the model relies on includes the instability of the
 > atmosphere and vertical windshear, which is the change in wind speed
 > and wind direction at different heights. These variables are
 > important since there's a much higher risk of a tornado taking place
 > when air is able to rise quickly coupled with a big change in wind
 > speed and direction at different heights above the ground.

 > Cheng's model also takes into account the lack of accurate records in
 > tracking tornadoes. Tornado reports rely solely on eyewitness
 > observations, which means they're better monitored in more populated
 > areas. The model bypasses that by showing the strong relationship
 > between atmospheric variables and actual tornado occurrences.

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#520932

Fromgilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-09-13 21:47 -0500
Message-ID<mt5cfj$4rn$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#520919
On 9/13/2015 9:01 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 9/13/15 8:08 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> Now, now, spamming shit head, where is your response to what I posted?
>
<snip condisending anti-jimp stuff (SPELT CHEK OFF !))

>
>    Predicting tornadoes months or even seasons in advance
>  > http://phys.org/news/2015-09-tornadoes-months-seasons-advance.html
>

<Snip outright misleading James McGinn poop>

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#520943

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-09-14 04:31 +0000
Message-ID<j5vhcc-gfq.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#520919
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/13/15 8:08 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> Now, now, spamming shit head, where is your response to what I posted?
> 

Answer the question, you worthless piece of spamming shit. 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#520950

FromBret Cahill <bretcahill@aol.com>
Date2015-09-13 22:12 -0700
Message-ID<76d79e44-6860-4332-99af-29a65c5167a2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#520943
> >> Now, now, spamming shit head, where is your response to what I posted?
> > 
> 
> Answer the question, you worthless piece of spamming shit. 

Try not to spree but if you must spree, spree local.  Just shoot up yer own place.


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