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Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics

Started byOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
First post2017-02-23 17:27 -0600
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  Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-23 17:27 -0600
    secnds are not dimensional per se noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-23 17:53 -0800
    Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Serg Io <invliad@invalid.com> - 2017-02-23 21:35 -0600
      Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics benj <nobody@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-24 06:20 -0500
        Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Serg Io <invliad@invalid.com> - 2017-02-24 06:22 -0600
          Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-02-24 06:20 -0800
            Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Serg Io <invliad@invalid.com> - 2017-02-24 09:46 -0600
              Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-02-24 22:06 -0800
                Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics sErgio <invlid@invalid.com> - 2017-02-25 10:16 -0600
              Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-01 01:28 -0800
                (-. noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 12:17 -0800
    Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-02-23 20:09 -0800
      Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-02-24 12:51 -0800
        Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-02-24 18:32 -0800
        Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 13:35 -0600
          Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 18:49 -0800
        Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 11:45 -0800
    Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-02-23 22:25 -0800
    Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics benj <nobody@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-24 05:28 -0500
      Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-02-24 02:50 -0800
      Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-24 06:06 -0800
        Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-02-24 08:07 -0800
          Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-24 09:02 -0800
            Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Serg Io <invliad@invalid.com> - 2017-02-24 12:54 -0600
              Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-02-24 13:14 -0800
                Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-24 17:01 -0800
                  Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-02-24 17:51 -0800
                    Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 02:42 -0500
                Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Serg Io <invliad@invalid.com> - 2017-02-24 19:37 -0600
                  Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-02-24 18:14 -0800
                    Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 02:32 -0500
              Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-24 16:53 -0800
            Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 03:40 -0500
      Columbus did not sleep in this item (circa '492 .-) noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-24 11:07 -0800
      Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-02-24 20:00 +0000
        Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-02-24 12:18 -0800
        Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-02-24 13:32 -0800
          Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-02-24 13:51 -0800
            Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 03:15 -0500
              Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-02-25 11:22 -0800
            Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-02-25 11:16 -0800
              Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 11:42 -0800
              Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 05:48 -0800
                Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 22:51 -0500
                  Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 05:21 -0800
                  Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 06:26 -0800
                    Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 11:43 -0800
                    Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-28 19:43 -0500
                Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-02-27 06:21 -0800
                  Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 11:23 -0800
                    Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-27 17:23 -0500
                      Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 17:22 -0800
                        Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics "Buck Futter" <mahipals_ballsack@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 18:07 -0800
                          Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 05:49 -0800
                            Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Ser Gio <invlid@invalid.com> - 2017-02-28 09:56 -0600
                              Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 11:57 -0800
                    Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-02-28 12:14 -0800
                      Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 13:20 -0800
                        Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-02-28 17:21 -0800
                          Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 08:12 -0600
                            Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 07:08 -0800
                              Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-01 19:32 -0500
                            Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 09:49 -0800
                              Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 16:13 -0800
                            Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-01 14:03 -0800
                              Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 15:52 -0800
                            Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-01 19:16 -0500
                            Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-01 22:55 -0800
                              Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-03-01 23:28 -0800
                              Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-02 09:05 -0600
                                Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-03-02 09:38 -0800
                                  Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-02 09:59 -0800
                                Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-03 03:28 -0800
                                  Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-03 04:42 -0800
                                  Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-03 07:28 -0600
                                    Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-03 07:12 -0800
                                    Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-03 11:22 -0800
                                      Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-03 22:11 -0800
                                        Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-03-03 22:16 -0800
                                        Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-04 09:33 -0800
                                    Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-03 18:48 -0500
                                      Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-05 13:15 -0800
                                        mathematica is at least four subjecta noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-05 15:36 -0800
                                          Re: mathematica is at least four subjecta poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-05 22:41 -0800
                                            Re: mathematica is at least four subjecta Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-06 05:00 -0800
                                        Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-05 17:00 -0800
                                          Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Edison Biermann <um@mesidse.cs> - 2017-03-06 02:19 +0000
                                          Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-05 22:41 -0800
                                            Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-06 01:08 -0800
                                          Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-06 04:01 -0500
                                            Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-06 05:36 -0800
                                              Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-06 18:28 -0500
                                                Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-06 16:40 -0800
                                                  Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-06 20:21 -0500
                                        Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-05 22:36 -0800
                                  Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics "Efftard K. Donglemeier" <mahipals_ballsack@gmail.com> - 2017-03-03 07:05 -0800
                                    Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-03 07:14 -0800
                                      Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics "Efftard K. Donglemeier" <mahipals_ballsack@gmail.com> - 2017-03-03 07:19 -0800
                                      Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-03-03 09:22 -0800
                                  Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-03 10:24 -0800
                                    Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-03 22:08 -0800
                                      Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-03-03 22:12 -0800
                          Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 13:56 -0800
                            Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-01 14:28 -0800
                              Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-01 18:14 -0500
                              Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-02 13:45 -0800
                            Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-01 15:07 -0800
                              Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-02 17:01 -0800
                                Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-02 17:56 -0800
                                Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-03 18:42 -0500
                            Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-01 19:11 -0500
                              Re: Why should I learn four subjects that noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 17:44 -0800
                              Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 20:11 -0800
                      Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-28 19:31 -0500
                        Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-03-01 09:29 -0800
                          Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-03-01 09:38 -0800
                            Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-03-01 18:05 -0800
                              Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 18:43 -0800
          Re: Science Fact is hard work and it never pays much. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 03:02 -0500
            Re: Science Fact is hard work and it never pays much. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 03:08 -0800
              Re: Science Fact is hard work and it never pays much. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 22:39 -0500
        Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 03:19 -0500
          Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 01:42 -0800
            r = pi noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 04:37 -0800
              PI = 1/pi = 0.32 (at least in base_4) noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 22:40 -0800
          Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-02-25 17:48 +0000
            Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Bret Noss <osotr@rwtropsws.org> - 2017-02-25 18:41 +0000
              Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-02-25 19:07 +0000
                Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Bret Noss <osotr@rwtropsws.org> - 2017-02-25 19:35 +0000
                Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 11:37 -0800
            Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 11:00 -0800
        Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 13:34 -0600
          Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-25 17:01 -0500
            Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-02-25 22:21 +0000
              Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-25 17:56 -0500
                Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 15:18 -0800
                Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-02-26 01:22 +0000
                  Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-25 21:18 -0500
                    Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-02-26 02:58 +0000
            Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 15:44 -0600
              Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 22:45 -0500
                Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 07:22 -0600
                  Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-27 16:53 -0500
        Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 12:06 -0800
      Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-02-24 12:40 -0800
        Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 03:22 -0500
      Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-02-24 13:19 -0800
    Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-02-24 10:11 -0800
      Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 12:04 -0800
    Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 23:02 -0800
      Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-02-27 05:02 -0800
        Re: Why should I learn mathematics to understand physics poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-02-27 05:09 -0800
          mathematica is minimally four subjecta: a) numberthoery -- used to be arithmetic; noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 11:07 -0800
            mathematica is minimally four subjecta: a) numberthoery b) music noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 23:03 -0800
              mathematica is minimally four subjecta: a) numbertheory b) music c) astronomy noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 09:49 -0800
                mathematica is minimally four subjecta: a) numbertheory b) music c) astronomy d) geometry noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 12:04 -0800

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#620641 — Re: Science Fact is hard work and it never pays much.

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-26 22:39 -0500
SubjectRe: Science Fact is hard work and it never pays much.
Message-ID<58b39f68$0$51800$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#620417
On 02/25/2017 06:08 AM, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked
> Of course in my case, were it not for high pay, how could I have spent
> most of my life "retired" as I call it. You work for a few years and
> build up a big bank balance and then live off the fat of the land until
> it runs out and then do it again.
> --------------
>
> Now the true story. BJ gets a job as junior lab assistant (paperclip division) and it all goes well for a while. But BJ just cannot keep his mouth shut for long. He starts talking about kook things and his kook brand of religion. This makes his co workers uncomfortable to the point where they complain to HR. After a series of verbal and written warnings, BJ gets fired. Now he's so old and his record is so blemished that he now works bagging groceries to supplement the pittance he gets for being on the government dole
>
Amazing fantasy life!  My fantasy is "retired" HVAC getting enough for a 
burger each day by turning gay tricks in city parks.

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#620408

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-25 03:19 -0500
Message-ID<58b13c31$0$10228$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#620323
On 02/24/2017 03:00 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In sci.physics benj <nobody@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 02/23/2017 06:27 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote a bunch of blather as usual:
>>> I've heard repeatedly from some of the more ignorant posters on this
>>> group that mathematics is not central for physics. Usually they say this
>>> to have an excuse for avoiding something they find difficult.
>>>
>>> Mathematics has several functions for a physicist:
>>
>> Snip blather.
>>
>> 1. Mathematics is PURE fantasy. It has NO basis in reality.
>>
>> 2. Any connection between mathematics and reality is simply assumed
>> dogma. Mathematics is not more real than reality.
>>
>> 3. theories may be written in the language of mathematics but theories
>> are NEVER correct. Science is NEVER "settled" (No matter what the
>> "climate change" fraudsters may tell you)
>>
>> 4. Using mathematics in science to deduce new theories is CERTAIN to
>> fail because it has been mathematically proved that there are things
>> that are true in mathematics that mathematics CANNOT prove to be true!
>>
>> 5. Even a computer is limited in complexity level of mathematics it can
>> calculate leaving vast areas of "truth" untouched.
>>
>> 6. The analogy between mathematics and reality can be useful but it is
>> by no means certain. EACH analogy must be tested to see if it is true.
>> There is NO guarantee it will be and in fact often it is NOT!
>>
>> 7. And lastly, education experts have determined that nobody ever uses
>> mathematics once they get out of school which is why it is being removed
>> from the curriculum just like cursive writing which texting has rendered
>> useless.
>
> Does benj really believe this inane crap or is he just posting it to
> get his troll fix?
>
>
If you are so smart, chimp, then why don't you show us what you think is 
wrong and show me the error of my ways. Bet you can't.

(PS. Be smart like HVAC and keep your mouth shut and talk about sex or 
ghosts instead so you don't get your ass handed to you)

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#620415

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-25 01:42 -0800
Message-ID<2aa415b8-6b72-4c81-ba7b-3266ff1890b5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#620408
you are confusing the trivium with mathematica;
ever since b00le, arithmetic is replaced
by the theory of numbers; actually, since Fermatttt's little theorem.

> If you are so smart, chimp, then why don't you show us what you think is 
> wrong and show me the error of my ways. Bet you can't.
> 
> (PS. Be smart like HVAC and keep your mouth shut and talk about sex or 
> ghosts instead so you don't get your ass handed to you)

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#620419 — r = pi

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-25 04:37 -0800
Subjectr = pi
Message-ID<3e3cbab0-e8ec-43e2-b8aa-12561c7c3e82@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#620415
the trivium is a)
logic, b)
grammar, c)
rhetoric' or, in other word, 3Rs.

> you are confusing the trivium with mathematica;
> ever since b00le, arithmetic is replaced
> by the theory of numbers; actually, since Fermatttt's little theorem.

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#620661 — PI = 1/pi = 0.32 (at least in base_4)

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-26 22:40 -0800
SubjectPI = 1/pi = 0.32 (at least in base_4)
Message-ID<c8cfc9dc-60ba-4f4a-b796-2479b271c76d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#620419
oh, you guys a re snoring at the keyboard

> > you are confusing the trivium with mathematica;
> > ever since b00le, arithmetic is replaced
> > by the theory of numbers; actually, since Fermatttt's little theorem.

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#620440

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-02-25 17:48 +0000
Message-ID<7ls8od-01b.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#620408
In sci.physics benj <nobody@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 02/24/2017 03:00 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics benj <nobody@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On 02/23/2017 06:27 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote a bunch of blather as usual:
>>>> I've heard repeatedly from some of the more ignorant posters on this
>>>> group that mathematics is not central for physics. Usually they say this
>>>> to have an excuse for avoiding something they find difficult.
>>>>
>>>> Mathematics has several functions for a physicist:
>>>
>>> Snip blather.
>>>
>>> 1. Mathematics is PURE fantasy. It has NO basis in reality.
>>>
>>> 2. Any connection between mathematics and reality is simply assumed
>>> dogma. Mathematics is not more real than reality.
>>>
>>> 3. theories may be written in the language of mathematics but theories
>>> are NEVER correct. Science is NEVER "settled" (No matter what the
>>> "climate change" fraudsters may tell you)
>>>
>>> 4. Using mathematics in science to deduce new theories is CERTAIN to
>>> fail because it has been mathematically proved that there are things
>>> that are true in mathematics that mathematics CANNOT prove to be true!
>>>
>>> 5. Even a computer is limited in complexity level of mathematics it can
>>> calculate leaving vast areas of "truth" untouched.
>>>
>>> 6. The analogy between mathematics and reality can be useful but it is
>>> by no means certain. EACH analogy must be tested to see if it is true.
>>> There is NO guarantee it will be and in fact often it is NOT!
>>>
>>> 7. And lastly, education experts have determined that nobody ever uses
>>> mathematics once they get out of school which is why it is being removed
>>> from the curriculum just like cursive writing which texting has rendered
>>> useless.
>>
>> Does benj really believe this inane crap or is he just posting it to
>> get his troll fix?
>>
>>
> If you are so smart, chimp, then why don't you show us what you think is 
> wrong and show me the error of my ways. Bet you can't.

What is wrong is either you are a raving kook or a troll desperate
for attention.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#620444

FromBret Noss <osotr@rwtropsws.org>
Date2017-02-25 18:41 +0000
Message-ID<o8sj59$1hkv$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#620440
jimp wrote:

>>> Does benj really believe this inane crap or is he just posting it to
>>> get his troll fix?
>>>
>> If you are so smart, chimp, then why don't you show us what you think
>> is wrong and show me the error of my ways. Bet you can't.
> 
> What is wrong is either you are a raving kook or a troll desperate for
> attention.

You are incapable. Seemingly a half-engineer.

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#620450

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-02-25 19:07 +0000
Message-ID<q719od-6fb.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#620444
In sci.physics Bret Noss <osotr@rwtropsws.org> wrote:
> jimp wrote:
> 
>>>> Does benj really believe this inane crap or is he just posting it to
>>>> get his troll fix?
>>>>
>>> If you are so smart, chimp, then why don't you show us what you think
>>> is wrong and show me the error of my ways. Bet you can't.
>> 
>> What is wrong is either you are a raving kook or a troll desperate for
>> attention.
> 
> You are incapable. Seemingly a half-engineer.

Yet another nym to kill file.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#620457

FromBret Noss <osotr@rwtropsws.org>
Date2017-02-25 19:35 +0000
Message-ID<o8sma4$1nop$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#620450
jimp wrote:

> In sci.physics Bret Noss <osotr@rwtropsws.org> wrote:
>> jimp wrote:
>> 
>>>>> Does benj really believe this inane crap or is he just posting it to
>>>>> get his troll fix?
>>>>>
>>>> If you are so smart, chimp, then why don't you show us what you think
>>>> is wrong and show me the error of my ways. Bet you can't.
>>> 
>>> What is wrong is either you are a raving kook or a troll desperate for
>>> attention.
>> 
>> You are incapable. Seemingly a half-engineer.
> 
> Yet another nym to kill file.

You can't even put two tensors together.

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#620461

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-25 11:37 -0800
Message-ID<56e8cdd4-bf32-4216-8ea3-17b8f44f5ccb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#620450
On Saturday, February 25, 2017 at 11:16:05 AM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In sci.physics Bret Noss <osotr@rwtropsws.org> wrote:
> > jimp wrote:
> > 
> >>>> Does benj really believe this inane crap or is he just posting it to
> >>>> get his troll fix?
> >>>>
> >>> If you are so smart, chimp, then why don't you show us what you think
> >>> is wrong and show me the error of my ways. Bet you can't.
> >> 
> >> What is wrong is either you are a raving kook or a troll desperate for
> >> attention.
> > 
> > You are incapable. Seemingly a half-engineer.
> 
> Yet another nym to kill file.

LOL.  Loser.

He is a half-engineer.

> 
> 
> -- 
> Jim Pennino

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#620448

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-25 11:00 -0800
Message-ID<3ef30c5e-ce11-4fae-97d1-a73d135d3c1a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#620440
On Saturday, February 25, 2017 at 10:01:07 AM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In sci.physics benj <nobody@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 02/24/2017 03:00 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> >> In sci.physics benj <nobody@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> On 02/23/2017 06:27 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote a bunch of blather as usual:
> >>>> I've heard repeatedly from some of the more ignorant posters on this
> >>>> group that mathematics is not central for physics. Usually they say this
> >>>> to have an excuse for avoiding something they find difficult.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mathematics has several functions for a physicist:
> >>>
> >>> Snip blather.
> >>>
> >>> 1. Mathematics is PURE fantasy. It has NO basis in reality.
> >>>
> >>> 2. Any connection between mathematics and reality is simply assumed
> >>> dogma. Mathematics is not more real than reality.
> >>>
> >>> 3. theories may be written in the language of mathematics but theories
> >>> are NEVER correct. Science is NEVER "settled" (No matter what the
> >>> "climate change" fraudsters may tell you)
> >>>
> >>> 4. Using mathematics in science to deduce new theories is CERTAIN to
> >>> fail because it has been mathematically proved that there are things
> >>> that are true in mathematics that mathematics CANNOT prove to be true!
> >>>
> >>> 5. Even a computer is limited in complexity level of mathematics it can
> >>> calculate leaving vast areas of "truth" untouched.
> >>>
> >>> 6. The analogy between mathematics and reality can be useful but it is
> >>> by no means certain. EACH analogy must be tested to see if it is true.
> >>> There is NO guarantee it will be and in fact often it is NOT!
> >>>
> >>> 7. And lastly, education experts have determined that nobody ever uses
> >>> mathematics once they get out of school which is why it is being removed
> >>> from the curriculum just like cursive writing which texting has rendered
> >>> useless.
> >>
> >> Does benj really believe this inane crap or is he just posting it to
> >> get his troll fix?
> >>
> >>
> > If you are so smart, chimp, then why don't you show us what you think is 
> > wrong and show me the error of my ways. Bet you can't.
> 
> What is wrong is either you are a raving kook or a troll desperate
> for attention.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jim Pennino

You got nothing!!!

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#620454

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-25 13:34 -0600
Message-ID<o8sm8j$1nls$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#620323
On 2/24/2017 2:00 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In sci.physics benj <nobody@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 02/23/2017 06:27 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote a bunch of blather as usual:
>>> I've heard repeatedly from some of the more ignorant posters on this
>>> group that mathematics is not central for physics. Usually they say this
>>> to have an excuse for avoiding something they find difficult.
>>>
>>> Mathematics has several functions for a physicist:
>>
>> Snip blather.
>>
>> 1. Mathematics is PURE fantasy. It has NO basis in reality.
>>
>> 2. Any connection between mathematics and reality is simply assumed
>> dogma. Mathematics is not more real than reality.
>>
>> 3. theories may be written in the language of mathematics but theories
>> are NEVER correct. Science is NEVER "settled" (No matter what the
>> "climate change" fraudsters may tell you)
>>
>> 4. Using mathematics in science to deduce new theories is CERTAIN to
>> fail because it has been mathematically proved that there are things
>> that are true in mathematics that mathematics CANNOT prove to be true!
>>
>> 5. Even a computer is limited in complexity level of mathematics it can
>> calculate leaving vast areas of "truth" untouched.
>>
>> 6. The analogy between mathematics and reality can be useful but it is
>> by no means certain. EACH analogy must be tested to see if it is true.
>> There is NO guarantee it will be and in fact often it is NOT!
>>
>> 7. And lastly, education experts have determined that nobody ever uses
>> mathematics once they get out of school which is why it is being removed
>> from the curriculum just like cursive writing which texting has rendered
>> useless.
>
> Does benj really believe this inane crap or is he just posting it to
> get his troll fix?

Oh, it's just Ben stirring the pot. He's past the point of saying 
anything useful.


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#620473

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-02-25 17:01 -0500
Message-ID<58b1feb0$0$15700$c3e8da3$9deca2c3@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#620454
On 2/25/2017 2:34 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 2/24/2017 2:00 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics benj <nobody@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On 02/23/2017 06:27 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote a bunch of blather as usual:
>>>> I've heard repeatedly from some of the more ignorant posters on this
>>>> group that mathematics is not central for physics. Usually they say
>>>> this
>>>> to have an excuse for avoiding something they find difficult.
>>>>
>>>> Mathematics has several functions for a physicist:
>>>
>>> Snip blather.
>>>
>>> 1. Mathematics is PURE fantasy. It has NO basis in reality.
>>>
>>> 2. Any connection between mathematics and reality is simply assumed
>>> dogma. Mathematics is not more real than reality.
>>>
>>> 3. theories may be written in the language of mathematics but theories
>>> are NEVER correct. Science is NEVER "settled" (No matter what the
>>> "climate change" fraudsters may tell you)
>>>
>>> 4. Using mathematics in science to deduce new theories is CERTAIN to
>>> fail because it has been mathematically proved that there are things
>>> that are true in mathematics that mathematics CANNOT prove to be true!
>>>
>>> 5. Even a computer is limited in complexity level of mathematics it can
>>> calculate leaving vast areas of "truth" untouched.
>>>
>>> 6. The analogy between mathematics and reality can be useful but it is
>>> by no means certain. EACH analogy must be tested to see if it is true.
>>> There is NO guarantee it will be and in fact often it is NOT!
>>>
>>> 7. And lastly, education experts have determined that nobody ever uses
>>> mathematics once they get out of school which is why it is being removed
>>> from the curriculum just like cursive writing which texting has rendered
>>> useless.
>>
>> Does benj really believe this inane crap or is he just posting it to
>> get his troll fix?
>
> Oh, it's just Ben stirring the pot. He's past the point of saying
> anything useful.


Isn't it funny that when people are ignorant and prejudiced about things 
they always thing that people telling them the truth about them are insane?


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#620484

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-02-25 22:21 +0000
Message-ID<nkc9od-7ic.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#620473
In sci.physics benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 2/25/2017 2:34 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 2/24/2017 2:00 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> In sci.physics benj <nobody@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On 02/23/2017 06:27 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote a bunch of blather as usual:
>>>>> I've heard repeatedly from some of the more ignorant posters on this
>>>>> group that mathematics is not central for physics. Usually they say
>>>>> this
>>>>> to have an excuse for avoiding something they find difficult.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mathematics has several functions for a physicist:
>>>>
>>>> Snip blather.
>>>>
>>>> 1. Mathematics is PURE fantasy. It has NO basis in reality.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Any connection between mathematics and reality is simply assumed
>>>> dogma. Mathematics is not more real than reality.
>>>>
>>>> 3. theories may be written in the language of mathematics but theories
>>>> are NEVER correct. Science is NEVER "settled" (No matter what the
>>>> "climate change" fraudsters may tell you)
>>>>
>>>> 4. Using mathematics in science to deduce new theories is CERTAIN to
>>>> fail because it has been mathematically proved that there are things
>>>> that are true in mathematics that mathematics CANNOT prove to be true!
>>>>
>>>> 5. Even a computer is limited in complexity level of mathematics it can
>>>> calculate leaving vast areas of "truth" untouched.
>>>>
>>>> 6. The analogy between mathematics and reality can be useful but it is
>>>> by no means certain. EACH analogy must be tested to see if it is true.
>>>> There is NO guarantee it will be and in fact often it is NOT!
>>>>
>>>> 7. And lastly, education experts have determined that nobody ever uses
>>>> mathematics once they get out of school which is why it is being removed
>>>> from the curriculum just like cursive writing which texting has rendered
>>>> useless.
>>>
>>> Does benj really believe this inane crap or is he just posting it to
>>> get his troll fix?
>>
>> Oh, it's just Ben stirring the pot. He's past the point of saying
>> anything useful.
> 
> 
> Isn't it funny that when people are ignorant and prejudiced about things 
> they always thing that people telling them the truth about them are insane?
 
Isn't it funny that when trolls are recognized as such the ad hominems gush? 
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#620489

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-02-25 17:56 -0500
Message-ID<58b20b9d$0$18134$c3e8da3$a9097924@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#620484
On 2/25/2017 5:21 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In sci.physics benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>> On 2/25/2017 2:34 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> On 2/24/2017 2:00 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> In sci.physics benj <nobody@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 02/23/2017 06:27 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote a bunch of blather as usual:
>>>>>> I've heard repeatedly from some of the more ignorant posters on this
>>>>>> group that mathematics is not central for physics. Usually they say
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> to have an excuse for avoiding something they find difficult.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mathematics has several functions for a physicist:
>>>>>
>>>>> Snip blather.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Mathematics is PURE fantasy. It has NO basis in reality.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Any connection between mathematics and reality is simply assumed
>>>>> dogma. Mathematics is not more real than reality.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. theories may be written in the language of mathematics but theories
>>>>> are NEVER correct. Science is NEVER "settled" (No matter what the
>>>>> "climate change" fraudsters may tell you)
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. Using mathematics in science to deduce new theories is CERTAIN to
>>>>> fail because it has been mathematically proved that there are things
>>>>> that are true in mathematics that mathematics CANNOT prove to be true!
>>>>>
>>>>> 5. Even a computer is limited in complexity level of mathematics it can
>>>>> calculate leaving vast areas of "truth" untouched.
>>>>>
>>>>> 6. The analogy between mathematics and reality can be useful but it is
>>>>> by no means certain. EACH analogy must be tested to see if it is true.
>>>>> There is NO guarantee it will be and in fact often it is NOT!
>>>>>
>>>>> 7. And lastly, education experts have determined that nobody ever uses
>>>>> mathematics once they get out of school which is why it is being removed
>>>>> from the curriculum just like cursive writing which texting has rendered
>>>>> useless.
>>>>
>>>> Does benj really believe this inane crap or is he just posting it to
>>>> get his troll fix?
>>>
>>> Oh, it's just Ben stirring the pot. He's past the point of saying
>>> anything useful.
>>
>>
>> Isn't it funny that when people are ignorant and prejudiced about things
>> they always thing that people telling them the truth about them are insane?
>
> Isn't it funny that when trolls are recognized as such the ad hominems gush?
>
Isn't it funny when stalkers follow you all over the net because they 
are so obsessed with you. Chimp's obsession with my greatness is 
understandable and excused, though.

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#620498

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-25 15:18 -0800
Message-ID<a65f0612-85e4-45dd-ba37-fa37b1468f55@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#620489
I'll bet he can put t00 tensors together, if he tries it

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#620524

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-02-26 01:22 +0000
Message-ID<47n9od-njd.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#620489
In sci.physics benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 2/25/2017 5:21 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>> On 2/25/2017 2:34 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> On 2/24/2017 2:00 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> In sci.physics benj <nobody@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 02/23/2017 06:27 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote a bunch of blather as usual:
>>>>>>> I've heard repeatedly from some of the more ignorant posters on this
>>>>>>> group that mathematics is not central for physics. Usually they say
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> to have an excuse for avoiding something they find difficult.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mathematics has several functions for a physicist:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Snip blather.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Mathematics is PURE fantasy. It has NO basis in reality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Any connection between mathematics and reality is simply assumed
>>>>>> dogma. Mathematics is not more real than reality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. theories may be written in the language of mathematics but theories
>>>>>> are NEVER correct. Science is NEVER "settled" (No matter what the
>>>>>> "climate change" fraudsters may tell you)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4. Using mathematics in science to deduce new theories is CERTAIN to
>>>>>> fail because it has been mathematically proved that there are things
>>>>>> that are true in mathematics that mathematics CANNOT prove to be true!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5. Even a computer is limited in complexity level of mathematics it can
>>>>>> calculate leaving vast areas of "truth" untouched.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 6. The analogy between mathematics and reality can be useful but it is
>>>>>> by no means certain. EACH analogy must be tested to see if it is true.
>>>>>> There is NO guarantee it will be and in fact often it is NOT!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 7. And lastly, education experts have determined that nobody ever uses
>>>>>> mathematics once they get out of school which is why it is being removed
>>>>>> from the curriculum just like cursive writing which texting has rendered
>>>>>> useless.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does benj really believe this inane crap or is he just posting it to
>>>>> get his troll fix?
>>>>
>>>> Oh, it's just Ben stirring the pot. He's past the point of saying
>>>> anything useful.
>>>
>>>
>>> Isn't it funny that when people are ignorant and prejudiced about things
>>> they always thing that people telling them the truth about them are insane?
>>
>> Isn't it funny that when trolls are recognized as such the ad hominems gush?
>>
> Isn't it funny when stalkers follow you all over the net because they 
> are so obsessed with you. Chimp's obsession with my greatness is 
> understandable and excused, though.
 
Isn't it funny trolls have a hyper-inflated view of their worth?

 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#620529

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-02-25 21:18 -0500
Message-ID<58b23aff$0$53453$c3e8da3$b1356c67@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#620524
On 2/25/2017 8:22 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In sci.physics benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>> On 2/25/2017 5:21 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> In sci.physics benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>> On 2/25/2017 2:34 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>> On 2/24/2017 2:00 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> In sci.physics benj <nobody@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 02/23/2017 06:27 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote a bunch of blather as usual:
>>>>>>>> I've heard repeatedly from some of the more ignorant posters on this
>>>>>>>> group that mathematics is not central for physics. Usually they say
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> to have an excuse for avoiding something they find difficult.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mathematics has several functions for a physicist:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Snip blather.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Mathematics is PURE fantasy. It has NO basis in reality.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. Any connection between mathematics and reality is simply assumed
>>>>>>> dogma. Mathematics is not more real than reality.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. theories may be written in the language of mathematics but theories
>>>>>>> are NEVER correct. Science is NEVER "settled" (No matter what the
>>>>>>> "climate change" fraudsters may tell you)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4. Using mathematics in science to deduce new theories is CERTAIN to
>>>>>>> fail because it has been mathematically proved that there are things
>>>>>>> that are true in mathematics that mathematics CANNOT prove to be true!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5. Even a computer is limited in complexity level of mathematics it can
>>>>>>> calculate leaving vast areas of "truth" untouched.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 6. The analogy between mathematics and reality can be useful but it is
>>>>>>> by no means certain. EACH analogy must be tested to see if it is true.
>>>>>>> There is NO guarantee it will be and in fact often it is NOT!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 7. And lastly, education experts have determined that nobody ever uses
>>>>>>> mathematics once they get out of school which is why it is being removed
>>>>>>> from the curriculum just like cursive writing which texting has rendered
>>>>>>> useless.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does benj really believe this inane crap or is he just posting it to
>>>>>> get his troll fix?
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, it's just Ben stirring the pot. He's past the point of saying
>>>>> anything useful.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Isn't it funny that when people are ignorant and prejudiced about things
>>>> they always thing that people telling them the truth about them are insane?
>>>
>>> Isn't it funny that when trolls are recognized as such the ad hominems gush?
>>>
>> Isn't it funny when stalkers follow you all over the net because they
>> are so obsessed with you. Chimp's obsession with my greatness is
>> understandable and excused, though.
>
> Isn't it funny trolls have a hyper-inflated view of their worth?

Funny? Is HVAC funny? Yeah, I guess he is. Are you funny? No. I think 
mostly you shout at kids to get off your lawn.

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#620536

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-02-26 02:58 +0000
Message-ID<iss9od-u4e.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#620529
In sci.physics benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 2/25/2017 8:22 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>> On 2/25/2017 5:21 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> In sci.physics benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 2/25/2017 2:34 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/24/2017 2:00 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>> In sci.physics benj <nobody@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 02/23/2017 06:27 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote a bunch of blather as usual:
>>>>>>>>> I've heard repeatedly from some of the more ignorant posters on this
>>>>>>>>> group that mathematics is not central for physics. Usually they say
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> to have an excuse for avoiding something they find difficult.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mathematics has several functions for a physicist:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Snip blather.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. Mathematics is PURE fantasy. It has NO basis in reality.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2. Any connection between mathematics and reality is simply assumed
>>>>>>>> dogma. Mathematics is not more real than reality.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3. theories may be written in the language of mathematics but theories
>>>>>>>> are NEVER correct. Science is NEVER "settled" (No matter what the
>>>>>>>> "climate change" fraudsters may tell you)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 4. Using mathematics in science to deduce new theories is CERTAIN to
>>>>>>>> fail because it has been mathematically proved that there are things
>>>>>>>> that are true in mathematics that mathematics CANNOT prove to be true!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 5. Even a computer is limited in complexity level of mathematics it can
>>>>>>>> calculate leaving vast areas of "truth" untouched.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 6. The analogy between mathematics and reality can be useful but it is
>>>>>>>> by no means certain. EACH analogy must be tested to see if it is true.
>>>>>>>> There is NO guarantee it will be and in fact often it is NOT!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 7. And lastly, education experts have determined that nobody ever uses
>>>>>>>> mathematics once they get out of school which is why it is being removed
>>>>>>>> from the curriculum just like cursive writing which texting has rendered
>>>>>>>> useless.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does benj really believe this inane crap or is he just posting it to
>>>>>>> get his troll fix?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, it's just Ben stirring the pot. He's past the point of saying
>>>>>> anything useful.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't it funny that when people are ignorant and prejudiced about things
>>>>> they always thing that people telling them the truth about them are insane?
>>>>
>>>> Isn't it funny that when trolls are recognized as such the ad hominems gush?
>>>>
>>> Isn't it funny when stalkers follow you all over the net because they
>>> are so obsessed with you. Chimp's obsession with my greatness is
>>> understandable and excused, though.
>>
>> Isn't it funny trolls have a hyper-inflated view of their worth?
> 
> Funny? Is HVAC funny? Yeah, I guess he is. Are you funny? No. I think 
> mostly you shout at kids to get off your lawn.

Get your troll fix yet?

 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#620610

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-26 15:44 -0600
Message-ID<o8vi77$fj8$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#620473
On 2/25/2017 4:01 PM, benj wrote:
> On 2/25/2017 2:34 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 2/24/2017 2:00 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> In sci.physics benj <nobody@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On 02/23/2017 06:27 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote a bunch of blather as usual:
>>>>> I've heard repeatedly from some of the more ignorant posters on this
>>>>> group that mathematics is not central for physics. Usually they say
>>>>> this
>>>>> to have an excuse for avoiding something they find difficult.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mathematics has several functions for a physicist:
>>>>
>>>> Snip blather.
>>>>
>>>> 1. Mathematics is PURE fantasy. It has NO basis in reality.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Any connection between mathematics and reality is simply assumed
>>>> dogma. Mathematics is not more real than reality.
>>>>
>>>> 3. theories may be written in the language of mathematics but theories
>>>> are NEVER correct. Science is NEVER "settled" (No matter what the
>>>> "climate change" fraudsters may tell you)
>>>>
>>>> 4. Using mathematics in science to deduce new theories is CERTAIN to
>>>> fail because it has been mathematically proved that there are things
>>>> that are true in mathematics that mathematics CANNOT prove to be true!
>>>>
>>>> 5. Even a computer is limited in complexity level of mathematics it can
>>>> calculate leaving vast areas of "truth" untouched.
>>>>
>>>> 6. The analogy between mathematics and reality can be useful but it is
>>>> by no means certain. EACH analogy must be tested to see if it is true.
>>>> There is NO guarantee it will be and in fact often it is NOT!
>>>>
>>>> 7. And lastly, education experts have determined that nobody ever uses
>>>> mathematics once they get out of school which is why it is being
>>>> removed
>>>> from the curriculum just like cursive writing which texting has
>>>> rendered
>>>> useless.
>>>
>>> Does benj really believe this inane crap or is he just posting it to
>>> get his troll fix?
>>
>> Oh, it's just Ben stirring the pot. He's past the point of saying
>> anything useful.
>
>
> Isn't it funny that when people are ignorant and prejudiced about things
> they always thing that people telling them the truth about them are insane?
>
>
>

Did I say anything here about you being insane? Oh, I see, more 
pot-stirring by you. Never mind.

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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