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  Scientists See U.N. Climate Accord As A Good Start, But Just A Start Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 10:19 -0600
    Re: Scientists See U.N. Climate Accord As A Good Start, But Just A Start Jürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-15 16:26 +0000
    Re: Scientists See U.N. Climate Accord As A Good Start, But Just A Start Jürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-15 16:43 +0000
      Re: Scientists See U.N. Climate Accord As A Good Start, But Just A Start Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 10:47 -0600
        Re: Scientists See U.N. Climate Accord As A Good Start, But Just A Start gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-15 10:57 -0600
    Re: Scientists See U.N. Climate Accord As A Good Start, But Just A Start gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-15 10:48 -0600
    Re: Scientists See U.N. Climate Accord As A Good Start, But Just A Start jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-15 20:17 +0000

#539370 — Scientists See U.N. Climate Accord As A Good Start, But Just A Start

Scientists See U.N. Climate Accord As A Good Start, But Just A Start
> http://www.npr.org/2015/12/15/459693015/scientists-see-u-n-climate-accord-as-a-good-start-but-just-a-start


> Climate researchers' dire warnings about global warming helped spur
> negotiators to draft this unprecedented international agreement,
> which commits both rich and poor countries to rein in greenhouse gas
> emissions in the coming decades.
>
> Some scientists now say they feel relief that the world is finally
> taking climate change seriously.
>
> "The accord signals that the world really gets it," says Jerry
> Melillo, who studies the impact of climate change with the Marine
> Biological Laboratory in Woods Hole, Mass. "The world understands
> that climate change is a serious issue and, if left unchecked will
> have catastrophic consequences for society."
>
> Melillo was particularly struck by the debate over whether to aim for
> cap of 2 degrees Celsius in the average increase in global
> temperature, or to try to keep global warming lower — below 1.5
> degrees Celsius. "This says to me that the world understands that we
> have to do as much as possible, as soon as possible," he says.
>
> But not everyone was so impressed by that debate over temperature
> targets.
>
> "There was a tremendous amount of discussion about [whether to have]
> a target of 1.5 degrees as opposed to 2 degrees,'" says Kevin
> Trenberth, a climate scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric
> Research in Boulder, Colorado. "Without saying how you're going to
> achieve things, I think we will actually blow right through both of
> those things."
>


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#539373

Sam Wormley wrote:

> Scientists See U.N. Climate Accord As A Good Start, But Just A Start
>> http://www.npr.org/2015/12/15/459693015/scientists-see-u-n-climate-
accord-as-a-good-start-but-just-a-start

Must Watch: Climatologist Breaks the Silence on Global Warming Groupthink 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GujLcfdovE8

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#539377

Sam Wormley wrote:

> Scientists See U.N. Climate Accord As A Good Start, But Just A Start
>> http://www.npr.org/2015/12/15/459693015/scientists-see-u-n-climate-
accord-as-a-good-start-but-just-a-start

Hear it from a one seemingly competent, familiar with observations and 
measuring instruments.

Nobel Laureate Smashes the Global Warming Hoax
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCy_UOjEir0

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#539379

   The observables say otherwise.

NOAA | Global Climate Change Indicators
   http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/indicators/

NASA | Global Climate Change Evidence
   http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/



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#539382

On 12/15/2015 10:47 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>
>
>    The observables say otherwise.
>
> NOAA | Global Climate Change Indicators
>    http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/indicators/


shows NO global worming from 1895 to 2015

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/

the true variance is hidden, as these are monthly averages of daily 
averages.

the true variance is about 30 degrees F

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#539380

On 12/15/2015 10:19 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Scientists See U.N. Climate Accord As A Good Start, But Just A Start

>
>
>> Climate researchers' dire warnings about global warming helped spur
>> negotiators to draft this unprecedented international agreement,
>> which commits both rich and poor countries to rein in greenhouse gas
>> emissions in the coming decades.


the basic data used in climate models has not been made publicly available.

the climate models themselves have thousands of parameters that are 
input or guessed at, and they have not been made publicly available.


Using questionable computer models,
	the UN has been bullied into trying to change the amount of a common 
gas in the air,

     rather than helping the poor avoid starvation, lack of clean water, 
no housing.

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#539434

Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Scientists See U.N. Climate Accord As A Good Start, But Just A Start
>> http://www.npr.org/2015/12/15/459693015/scientists-see-u-n-climate-accord-as-a-good-start-but-just-a-start
> 
> 
>> Climate researchers' dire warnings about global warming helped spur
>> negotiators to draft this unprecedented international agreement,
>> which commits both rich and poor countries to rein in greenhouse gas
>> emissions in the coming decades.
>>
>> Some scientists now say they feel relief that the world is finally
>> taking climate change seriously.
>>
>> "The accord signals that the world really gets it," says Jerry
>> Melillo, who studies the impact of climate change with the Marine
>> Biological Laboratory in Woods Hole, Mass. "The world understands
>> that climate change is a serious issue and, if left unchecked will
>> have catastrophic consequences for society."
>>
>> Melillo was particularly struck by the debate over whether to aim for
>> cap of 2 degrees Celsius in the average increase in global
>> temperature, or to try to keep global warming lower ? below 1.5
>> degrees Celsius. "This says to me that the world understands that we
>> have to do as much as possible, as soon as possible," he says.
>>
>> But not everyone was so impressed by that debate over temperature
>> targets.
>>
>> "There was a tremendous amount of discussion about [whether to have]
>> a target of 1.5 degrees as opposed to 2 degrees,'" says Kevin
>> Trenberth, a climate scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric
>> Research in Boulder, Colorado. "Without saying how you're going to
>> achieve things, I think we will actually blow right through both of
>> those things."

The "U.N. Climate Accord" was a colossal waste of time an money and
is meaningless.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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