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| First post | 2015-12-25 16:40 -0600 |
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A not-so-modest proposal to remove atmospheric carbon dioxide Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-25 16:40 -0600
Re: A not-so-modest proposal to remove atmospheric carbon dioxide benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-25 17:57 -0500
A not-so-modest proposal to remove atmospheric carbon dioxide john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-12-25 14:58 -0800
Re: A not-so-modest proposal to remove atmospheric carbon dioxide benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 14:06 -0500
Re: A not-so-modest proposal to remove atmospheric carbon dioxide Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-25 23:28 +0000
Re: A not-so-modest proposal to remove atmospheric carbon dioxide "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-25 15:47 -0800
Re: A not-so-modest proposal to remove atmospheric carbon dioxide benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 03:50 -0500
Re: A not-so-modest proposal to remove atmospheric carbon dioxide jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-26 00:31 +0000
Re: A not-so-modest proposal to remove atmospheric carbon dioxide Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-25 18:57 -0600
Re: A not-so-modest proposal to remove atmospheric carbon dioxide "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-12-25 20:16 -0800
Re: A not-so-modest proposal to remove atmospheric carbon dioxide Angelo <patrizio.pan-2002@libero.it> - 2015-12-26 05:12 -0800
Re: A not-so-modest proposal to remove atmospheric carbon dioxide Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 08:17 -0600
Re: A not-so-modest proposal to remove atmospheric carbon dioxide jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-26 18:56 +0000
Re: A not-so-modest proposal to remove atmospheric carbon dioxide jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-26 06:33 +0000
Re: A not-so-modest proposal to remove atmospheric carbon dioxide Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-25 00:08 -0600
Re: A not-so-modest proposal to remove atmospheric carbon dioxide jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-25 06:57 +0000
| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-25 16:40 -0600 |
| Subject | A not-so-modest proposal to remove atmospheric carbon dioxide |
| Message-ID | <5NmdnRABkKB0WODLnZ2dnUU7-bOdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
A not-so-modest proposal to remove atmospheric carbon dioxide > http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/12/a-not-so-modest-proposal-to-remove-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide/ > "The sooner you start socking away part of your paycheck for > retirement, the easier it is to hit your goals. If you wait until > late in your career to start, your goal could be simply out of reach > unless you take a second job or win the lottery." That axiom is a bit > like how we've treated carbon emissions: when governments started > negotiating to limit greenhouse gases in the early 1990s, the > agreed-upon goal of limiting global warming to 2 degrees Celsius was > pretty doable. The continued rise of emissions since then has turned > that into a tall task, while the 1.5 degree Celsius aspiration added > to the recent Paris agreement is even taller. > > At this point, hitting those targets very likely requires more than > just shifting away from fossil fuels. We’ll also need “negative > emissions”—activities that absorb carbon dioxide from smokestacks or > directly from the atmosphere—in order to squeeze under the line. It’s > a simple concept but a very big challenge. Some nascent negative > emission technologies exist, like capturing CO2 from smokestacks and > pumping it into underground reservoirs. Other proposals, however, > sound pretty wild and may not work—like dumping iron dust into the > oceans to spur plankton growth. > > One tempting strategy is to imitate nature’s longterm carbon > control—the weathering of fresh rock. When certain minerals react > with CO2 in rainwater, they turn into different minerals, and the CO2 > turns into bicarbonate that ends up in groundwater, rivers, and > ultimately the ocean. > -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-25 17:57 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <6Rjfy.20897$Sn4.18470@fx44.iad> |
| In reply to | #541534 |
On 12/25/2015 05:40 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> A not-so-modest proposal to remove atmospheric carbon dioxide
>> http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/12/a-not-so-modest-proposal-to-remove-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide/
>>
>
>
>> "The sooner you start socking away part of your paycheck for
>> retirement, the easier it is to hit your goals. If you wait until
>> late in your career to start, your goal could be simply out of reach
>> unless you take a second job or win the lottery." That axiom is a bit
>> like how we've treated carbon emissions: when governments started
>> negotiating to limit greenhouse gases in the early 1990s, the
>> agreed-upon goal of limiting global warming to 2 degrees Celsius was
>> pretty doable. The continued rise of emissions since then has turned
>> that into a tall task, while the 1.5 degree Celsius aspiration added
>> to the recent Paris agreement is even taller.
>>
>> At this point, hitting those targets very likely requires more than
>> just shifting away from fossil fuels. We’ll also need “negative
>> emissions”—activities that absorb carbon dioxide from smokestacks or
>> directly from the atmosphere—in order to squeeze under the line. It’s
>> a simple concept but a very big challenge. Some nascent negative
>> emission technologies exist, like capturing CO2 from smokestacks and
>> pumping it into underground reservoirs. Other proposals, however,
>> sound pretty wild and may not work—like dumping iron dust into the
>> oceans to spur plankton growth.
>>
>> One tempting strategy is to imitate nature’s longterm carbon
>> control—the weathering of fresh rock. When certain minerals react
>> with CO2 in rainwater, they turn into different minerals, and the CO2
>> turns into bicarbonate that ends up in groundwater, rivers, and
>> ultimately the ocean.
Here's a not so modest and not so stooopid proposal to remove CO2: Stop
burning the rainforests! Not only to trees take CO2 and (what silly
greens now term "sequester") store it, but also give oxygen we all need
to live. And you idiots are even WORSE than just cutting tree to use the
wood (do you make fine furniture with it? No, if it's used for anything
it's cement forms! and usually it's just burned. Well that is a really
"green" idea. Not only stop trees from storing CO2 but also release into
the air all the CO2 they've stored so far!
This is a perfect example of why all you Libs (which greens without
exception are) can't pass a science course if their lives depended on it.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-25 14:58 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <500d39b4-3d30-40d1-a9c5-62c5204010dc@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #541534 |
Plant trees. Quit burning oil.
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-26 14:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <lzBfy.29463$K21.6590@fx02.iad> |
| In reply to | #541537 |
On 12/25/2015 05:58 PM, john wrote:
> Plant trees.
> Quit burning oil.
Doesn't fly.
Tax oil, give money to Third World to say "we are sorry".
Just common sense.
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| From | Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> |
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| Date | 2015-12-25 23:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n5kjfb$t2a$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #541534 |
Sam Wormley wrote: > A not-so-modest proposal to remove atmospheric carbon dioxide >> http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/12/a-not-so-modest-proposal-to- remove-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide/ Not-so-modest!? A criminal stupidest thing to do. Plants and humans needs it, wormeley. Forget Climate Change: Why Hasn't Obama Addressed the Massive "Unstoppable" Gas Leak in Cali? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Atvv55rsbA8
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-25 15:47 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <76231c07-c068-44ae-b01d-2eb72a97b652@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #541534 |
Its a trade off Have to much $$$$$$ and you get nothing out of the system.If they checked out the Money GOPers like they do people on SS USA would then be a country by and for the people.Get The Picture TreBert
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| From | benj <nobody@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-26 03:50 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <7xsfy.31221$983.21482@fx06.iad> |
| In reply to | #541548 |
On 12/25/2015 06:47 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> Its a trade off Have to much $$$$$$ and you get nothing out of the system.If they checked out the Money GOPers like they do people on SS USA would then be a country by and for the people.Get The Picture TreBert
>
Obama and Wormley aren't GOPers, Herb. Empty your drool cup.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-12-26 00:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <qn31lc-mvn.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #541534 |
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > A not-so-modest proposal to remove atmospheric carbon dioxide >> http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/12/a-not-so-modest-proposal-to-remove-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide/ > > >> "The sooner you start socking away part of your paycheck for >> retirement, the easier it is to hit your goals. If you wait until >> late in your career to start, your goal could be simply out of reach >> unless you take a second job or win the lottery." That axiom is a bit >> like how we've treated carbon emissions: when governments started >> negotiating to limit greenhouse gases in the early 1990s, the >> agreed-upon goal of limiting global warming to 2 degrees Celsius was >> pretty doable. The continued rise of emissions since then has turned >> that into a tall task, while the 1.5 degree Celsius aspiration added >> to the recent Paris agreement is even taller. >> >> At this point, hitting those targets very likely requires more than >> just shifting away from fossil fuels. We?ll also need ?negative >> emissions??activities that absorb carbon dioxide from smokestacks or >> directly from the atmosphere?in order to squeeze under the line. It?s >> a simple concept but a very big challenge. Some nascent negative >> emission technologies exist, like capturing CO2 from smokestacks and >> pumping it into underground reservoirs. Other proposals, however, >> sound pretty wild and may not work?like dumping iron dust into the >> oceans to spur plankton growth. >> >> One tempting strategy is to imitate nature?s longterm carbon >> control?the weathering of fresh rock. When certain minerals react >> with CO2 in rainwater, they turn into different minerals, and the CO2 >> turns into bicarbonate that ends up in groundwater, rivers, and >> ultimately the ocean. >> Ever heard of photosynthesis, spamming shit head? -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-25 18:57 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <0NmdnZ9KoKdCeODLnZ2dnUU7-bMAAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #541556 |
On 12/25/15 6:31 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > Ever heard of photosynthesis, spamming shit head? Now, now, jimp, there you go again, you're outta control, your language is inappropriate, and your absolute contempt and total disgust are addressed in these Anger Management classes. You, jimp, need these services: > http://yellowpages.com/rancho-cucamonga-ca/anger-management-classes A not-so-modest proposal to remove atmospheric carbon dioxide > http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/12/a-not-so-modest-proposal-to-remove-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide/ > "The sooner you start socking away part of your paycheck for > retirement, the easier it is to hit your goals. If you wait until > late in your career to start, your goal could be simply out of reach > unless you take a second job or win the lottery." That axiom is a bit > like how we've treated carbon emissions: when governments started > negotiating to limit greenhouse gases in the early 1990s, the > agreed-upon goal of limiting global warming to 2 degrees Celsius was > pretty doable. The continued rise of emissions since then has turned > that into a tall task, while the 1.5 degree Celsius aspiration added > to the recent Paris agreement is even taller. > > At this point, hitting those targets very likely requires more than > just shifting away from fossil fuels. We’ll also need “negative > emissions”—activities that absorb carbon dioxide from smokestacks or > directly from the atmosphere—in order to squeeze under the line. It’s > a simple concept but a very big challenge. Some nascent negative > emission technologies exist, like capturing CO2 from smokestacks and > pumping it into underground reservoirs. Other proposals, however, > sound pretty wild and may not work—like dumping iron dust into the > oceans to spur plankton growth. > > One tempting strategy is to imitate nature’s longterm carbon > control—the weathering of fresh rock. When certain minerals react > with CO2 in rainwater, they turn into different minerals, and the CO2 > turns into bicarbonate that ends up in groundwater, rivers, and > ultimately the ocean. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-25 20:16 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5921a92f-ebc7-4152-8ace-c2aa3196eaa2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #541560 |
On Friday, December 25, 2015 at 4:57:06 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote: > On 12/25/15 6:31 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > > Ever heard of photosynthesis, spamming shit head? > > > No That explains a lot. Mark L. Fergerson
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| From | Angelo <patrizio.pan-2002@libero.it> |
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| Date | 2015-12-26 05:12 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <e2b3a32b-3e75-4433-93a8-fa52d162fe5f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #541589 |
On Saturday, December 26, 2015 at 5:17:00 AM UTC+1, nu...@bid.nes wrote: > On Friday, December 25, 2015 at 4:57:06 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote: > > On 12/25/15 6:31 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > > > Ever heard of photosynthesis, spamming shit head? > > > > > > No > > That explains a lot. That's right. As it appears he doesn't even want to hear photosynthesis or names/things like that. Furthermore, singling out CO2 as the one culprit of the (alleged) AGW is rather silly in my opinion. > Mark L. Fergerson regards Angelo
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-26 08:17 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <jKGdndsiZ9oIPOPLnZ2dnUU7-aGdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #541647 |
On 12/26/15 7:12 AM, Angelo wrote: > Furthermore, singling out CO2 as the one culprit of the > (alleged) AGW is rather silly in my opinion. Reading and Learning is good for you, Angelo. Evaluating and Explaining Climate Science > http://scienceofdoom.com/roadmap/co2/ -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-12-26 18:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <gg43lc-ts1.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #541652 |
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > On 12/26/15 7:12 AM, Angelo wrote: >> Furthermore, singling out CO2 as the one culprit of the >> (alleged) AGW is rather silly in my opinion. > > > Reading and Learning is good for you, Angelo. Evaluating > and Explaining Climate Science >> http://scienceofdoom.com/roadmap/co2/ Yet more doom and gloom from hysterical Chicken Littles. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2015-12-26 06:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <evo1lc-02q.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #541560 |
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > On 12/25/15 6:31 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> Ever heard of photosynthesis, spamming shit head? > > > Now, now, jimp, there you go again, you're outta control, your Fuck off and die, spamming shit head. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-25 00:08 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <y6ydnXf7ptpLJjjLnZ2dnUU7-YnOydjZ@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #541650 |
On 12/26/15 12:33 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > Fuck off and die, spamming shit head. Now, now, jimp, there you go again, you're outta control, your language is inappropriate, and your absolute contempt and total disgust are addressed in these Anger Management classes. You, jimp, need these services: > http://yellowpages.com/rancho-cucamonga-ca/anger-management-classes A not-so-modest proposal to remove atmospheric carbon dioxide > http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/12/a-not-so-modest-proposal-to-remove-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide/ > "The sooner you start socking away part of your paycheck for > retirement, the easier it is to hit your goals. If you wait until > late in your career to start, your goal could be simply out of reach > unless you take a second job or win the lottery." That axiom is a bit > like how we've treated carbon emissions: when governments started > negotiating to limit greenhouse gases in the early 1990s, the > agreed-upon goal of limiting global warming to 2 degrees Celsius was > pretty doable. The continued rise of emissions since then has turned > that into a tall task, while the 1.5 degree Celsius aspiration added > to the recent Paris agreement is even taller. > > At this point, hitting those targets very likely requires more than > just shifting away from fossil fuels. We’ll also need “negative > emissions”—activities that absorb carbon dioxide from smokestacks or > directly from the atmosphere—in order to squeeze under the line. It’s > a simple concept but a very big challenge. Some nascent negative > emission technologies exist, like capturing CO2 from smokestacks and > pumping it into underground reservoirs. Other proposals, however, > sound pretty wild and may not work—like dumping iron dust into the > oceans to spur plankton growth. > > One tempting strategy is to imitate nature’s longterm carbon > control—the weathering of fresh rock. When certain minerals react > with CO2 in rainwater, they turn into different minerals, and the CO2 > turns into bicarbonate that ends up in groundwater, rivers, and > ultimately the ocean. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-01-25 06:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <8ktgnc-vgl.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #547929 |
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > On 12/26/15 12:33 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> Fuck off and die, spamming shit head. > > > Now, now, jimp, there you go again, you're outta control, your Fuck off and die, copyright violating, cut and paste, spamming shit head. -- Jim Pennino
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