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  Physics questions for John Sefton Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 13:13 -0500
    Physics questions for John Sefton HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 11:36 -0700
      Re: Physics questions for John Sefton Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 14:06 -0500
        Re: Physics questions for John Sefton HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 12:41 -0700
        Re: Physics questions for John Sefton john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 12:49 -0700
          Re: Physics questions for John Sefton Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 15:14 -0500
          Re: Physics questions for John Sefton Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 16:42 -0500
            Re: Physics questions for John Sefton poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-10-05 23:24 -0700
      Re: Physics questions for John Sefton benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-05 17:44 -0400
    Re: Physics questions for John Sefton Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-05 14:00 -0500
    Re: Physics questions for John Sefton Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-10-05 22:41 +0200
      Re: Physics questions for John Sefton Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 16:03 -0500
        Re: Physics questions for John Sefton Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-10-05 23:53 +0200
          Re: Physics questions for John Sefton Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 17:11 -0500
            Re: Physics questions for John Sefton john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 16:55 -0700
              Re: Physics questions for John Sefton Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 08:59 -0500
                Re: Physics questions for John Sefton john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 07:24 -0700
                  Re: Physics questions for John Sefton Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 09:51 -0500
                    Re: Physics questions for John Sefton john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 08:05 -0700
                      Re: Physics questions for John Sefton john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 08:14 -0700
                      Re: Physics questions for John Sefton Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 10:38 -0500
                        Re: Physics questions for John Sefton john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 09:24 -0700
                          Re: Physics questions for John Sefton Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 11:27 -0500
                            Re: Physics questions for John Sefton john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 10:39 -0700
                              Re: Physics questions for John Sefton Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 12:56 -0500
                              Re: Physics questions for John Sefton HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 11:37 -0700
                                Re: Physics questions for John Sefton "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-10-06 12:22 -0700
                                  Re: Physics questions for John Sefton john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 12:53 -0700
                                    Re: Physics questions for John Sefton john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 13:07 -0700
                                      Re: Physics questions for John Sefton HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 14:47 -0700
                                        Re: Physics questions for John Sefton john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 16:58 -0700
                                          Re: Physics questions for John Sefton pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-10-06 17:14 -0700
                                            Re: Physics questions for John Sefton john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 17:29 -0700
                                              Re: Physics questions for John Sefton pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-10-06 20:27 -0700
                                              Re: Physics questions for John Sefton Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 07:26 -0500
                                            Re: Physics questions for John Sefton moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-10-07 06:17 +0000
                                              Re: Physics questions for John Sefton john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 23:36 -0700
                                          Re: Physics questions for John Sefton HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 23:38 -0700
                                            Re: Physics questions for John Sefton john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 00:16 -0700
                                              Re: Physics questions for John Sefton HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 04:23 -0700
                                                Re: Physics questions for John Sefton benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-08 16:42 -0400
                                                  Re: Physics questions for John Sefton HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 13:55 -0700
                                                    Re: Physics questions for John Sefton jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-08 21:18 +0000
                                                      Re: Physics questions for John Sefton john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 14:35 -0700
                                                      Re: Physics questions for John Sefton benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-08 19:00 -0400
                                              Re: Physics questions for John Sefton moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-10-07 13:15 +0000
                                                Re: Physics questions for John Sefton john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 07:44 -0700
                                                  Re: Physics questions for John Sefton Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 09:55 -0500
                                                  Re: Physics questions for John Sefton john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 08:04 -0700
                                                    Re: Physics questions for John Sefton HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 08:10 -0700
                                                    Re: Physics questions for John Sefton john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 08:14 -0700
                                                      Re: Physics questions for John Sefton Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 10:34 -0500
                                                        Re: Physics questions for John Sefton john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 10:40 -0700
                                                          Re: Physics questions for John Sefton Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 14:02 -0500
                                                  Re: Physics questions for John Sefton moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-10-07 19:54 +0000
                                                    Re: Physics questions for John Sefton john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 15:31 -0700
                                                      Re: Physics questions for John Sefton HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 16:17 -0700
                                                        Re: Physics questions for John Sefton pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-10-07 19:03 -0700
                                                          Re: Physics questions for John Sefton Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 21:13 -0500
                                                            Re: Physics questions for John Sefton john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 19:45 -0700
        Re: Physics questions for John Sefton noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 20:06 -0700

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#600002

On 10/7/2016 7:23 AM, HVAC wrote:
> John says Check out Dr Esselstyn. --------
>
> I'm give the same answer I have to the religious freaks who came to
> the hospital and wanted to pray the cancer away...."No thanks, I'll
> stick with science".
>
> I had multi million dollar equipment, staffed by an army of highly
> trained people working for me. I'll take my chances with them.

Actually Hardblow, Science says you are doing the right thing as fasting 
puts your body into a mode where it better eliminates poisons of all 
kinds. Key is to keep from starving while maintaining the fasting mode.

As for praying cancer away, prayer and such psychosomatic cures 
(placebos and the like) all depend on strong belief on the part of the 
patient the lack of which in your case makes such attempts a total waste 
of time.

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#600007

4:43 PMbenj
- show quoted text -
Actually Hardblow, Science says you are doing the right thing as fasting 
puts your body into a mode where it better eliminates poisons of all 
kinds. Key is to keep from starving while maintaining the fasting mode. 

As for praying cancer away, prayer and such psychosomatic cures 
(placebos and the like) all depend on strong belief on the part of the 
patient the lack of which in your case makes such attempts a total waste 
of time. 
----------

There was an old woman at the hospital and the chemo place (attached to the hospital) who went around offering reiki (not sure of spelling) it is some sort of laying on of hands that's supposed to work. I said no politely, but after a while I said yes because she was so nice and sincere. I must say it did nothing for me, but it didn't hurt and it seemed to give her pleasure and a purpose in life. I suppose I could have done the same with the prayer people but the old lady didn't try to invoke any paranormal hogwash.

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#600016

HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 4:43 PMbenj
> - show quoted text -
> Actually Hardblow, Science says you are doing the right thing as fasting 
> puts your body into a mode where it better eliminates poisons of all 
> kinds. Key is to keep from starving while maintaining the fasting mode. 
> 
> As for praying cancer away, prayer and such psychosomatic cures 
> (placebos and the like) all depend on strong belief on the part of the 
> patient the lack of which in your case makes such attempts a total waste 
> of time. 
> ----------
> 
> There was an old woman at the hospital and the chemo place (attached
> to the hospital) who went around offering reiki (not sure of spelling)
> it is some sort of laying on of hands that's supposed to work. I said
> no politely, but after a while I said yes because she was so nice and
> sincere. I must say it did nothing for me, but it didn't hurt and it
> seemed to give her pleasure and a purpose in life. I suppose I could
> have done the same with the prayer people but the old lady didn't try
> to invoke any paranormal hogwash.

A friend of mine was married to one of those for a while. She and the
others in her group did weekly visits to the local hospitals to "cure"
the ill.

They really believe it works and that they are doing good, but I would
bet on the chemo and radiation. 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#600022

What they're giving you
right now in the tube is
probably plant-based

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#600044

On 10/8/2016 5:18 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 4:43 PMbenj
>> - show quoted text -
>> Actually Hardblow, Science says you are doing the right thing as fasting
>> puts your body into a mode where it better eliminates poisons of all
>> kinds. Key is to keep from starving while maintaining the fasting mode.
>>
>> As for praying cancer away, prayer and such psychosomatic cures
>> (placebos and the like) all depend on strong belief on the part of the
>> patient the lack of which in your case makes such attempts a total waste
>> of time.
>> ----------
>>
>> There was an old woman at the hospital and the chemo place (attached
>> to the hospital) who went around offering reiki (not sure of spelling)
>> it is some sort of laying on of hands that's supposed to work. I said
>> no politely, but after a while I said yes because she was so nice and
>> sincere. I must say it did nothing for me, but it didn't hurt and it
>> seemed to give her pleasure and a purpose in life. I suppose I could
>> have done the same with the prayer people but the old lady didn't try
>> to invoke any paranormal hogwash.
>
> A friend of mine was married to one of those for a while. She and the
> others in her group did weekly visits to the local hospitals to "cure"
> the ill.
>
> They really believe it works and that they are doing good, but I would
> bet on the chemo and radiation.

There is a very famous case of psychosomatic cancer cure. There was this 
guy with "uncurable" terminal cancer. At the time all the papers were 
talking about some new "wonder" cure like Krebiozen or something 
similar. So his doctor having no real options made a big deal of giving 
it to him. And lo next thing you know he's in remission and cancer is 
totally gone!  But then papers started having stories reporting that the 
wonder drug was a fraud and the next thing you know he's got the cancer 
back. So his doctor concocts a story about how it was a STORAGE problem 
with the original drugs and you needed FRESH drugs for it to work and 
then (get this) gives him sugar pills as the "New" cure. And again the 
cancer goes totally into remission and disappears! But eventually the 
guy figured out the scam and confronted the doctor who confessed to the 
tale. And like that, soon the cancer was back and the guy dies! It 
remains one of the classic cases of placebo cures.

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#599845

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>HVAC
>"
>I used to have quite vivid dreams as a child too John 
>"

I did, too.  The thing was that I knew they were dreams.

>Shingled my roof this summer, all
>by myself, HVAC.
>When this 'dream' happened,
>33 years ago, I
>couldn't even  climb stairs, sometimes.
>Told me to go Vegan, Grasshopper.
>Told me other stuff- it was fun.

But look at what that did to your mind.

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#599851

Michael
I know Odd plays pool.
Maybe you do, as well.

Imagine throwing a dart at a dartboard,
and trying to hit exact Center. You have
to be pretty good to do that every time,
hey?
Well, if you don't hit the cue ball in its
exact Center, with the cue, the ball
will pick up spin, depending on where,
off-Center, the cue hits the ball.
And spin makes balls curve and influences
their interactions with each other, and the
cloth, and the rag (bumper).
Oh-oh.
You have a problem.
You have no idea what spin the ball
picks up going out. It automatically gets
top from rolling on the cloth, but if you
didn't stroke through that exact Center
line- which is very hard to do- it
could go right OR left. You don't know.

What would be a good solution
to this problem, Michael, that would
improve our chances, here? Let's
see your mental acuity.

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#599853

On 10/7/2016 9:44 AM, john wrote:
> Michael
> I know Odd plays pool.
> Maybe you do, as well.
>
> Imagine throwing a dart at a dartboard,
> and trying to hit exact Center. You have
> to be pretty good to do that every time,
> hey?
> Well, if you don't hit the cue ball in its
> exact Center, with the cue, the ball
> will pick up spin, depending on where,
> off-Center, the cue hits the ball.
> And spin makes balls curve and influences
> their interactions with each other, and the
> cloth, and the rag (bumper).
> Oh-oh.
> You have a problem.
> You have no idea what spin the ball
> picks up going out. It automatically gets
> top from rolling on the cloth, but if you
> didn't stroke through that exact Center
> line- which is very hard to do- it
> could go right OR left. You don't know.
>
> What would be a good solution
> to this problem, Michael, that would
> improve our chances, here? Let's
> see your mental acuity.
>

First, go vegan.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#599856

Michael
There are several things the
cue-striker can do to improve 
his accuracy, here.
Obviously, practice.
Let's assume a set error-bar on the
side-to-side (and up or down).
What else?
What can you think of?

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#599858

john
Michael 
There are several things the 
cue-striker can do to improve 
his accuracy, here. 
Obviously, practice. 
Let's assume a set error-bar on the 
side-to-side (and up or down). 
What else? 
What can you think of? 
-------

Pray?

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#599859

Odd said
"
First, go vegan. 
"
I know you play pool, Odd.
How's the game?
Can you solve this problem?
You don't little Pharma,
you just BigPharmamaycausedeath.
Of course, obtaining plant from
underground sources may have
added BigPharmamaycausedeath,
you never know.
But can you see the problem?
Can you ameliorate it?

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#599860

On 10/7/2016 10:14 AM, john wrote:
> Odd said
> "
> First, go vegan.
> "
> I know you play pool, Odd.
> How's the game?
> Can you solve this problem?
> You don't little Pharma,
> you just BigPharmamaycausedeath.
> Of course, obtaining plant from
> underground sources may have
> added BigPharmamaycausedeath,
> you never know.
> But can you see the problem?
> Can you ameliorate it?
>

In my experience, if you hit off-center, it is exacerbated by a few of 
things:
The shape of the cue tip leather, which I prefer to be uniformly rounded;
How the tip is chalked, which determines the grabbiness;
The flex of the front 20% of the cue shaft, which in turn is affected by 
how hard you strike;
Whether you are stroking above or below the horizontal midline of the 
cue ball.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#599886

Odd said
"- show quoted text -
In my experience, if you hit off-center, it is exacerbated by a few of 
things: 
The shape of the cue tip leather, which I prefer to be uniformly rounded; 
How the tip is chalked, which determines the grabbiness; 
The flex of the front 20% of the cue shaft, which in turn is affected by 
how hard you strike; 
Whether you are stroking above or below the horizontal midline of the 
cue ball. 
"

Yes.
Assume perfect roundness and grabbiness 
of tip.
You think that on
point of impact and through the
strike zone, you can make the cue
travel straight through the Center?

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#599890

On 10/7/2016 12:40 PM, john wrote:
> Odd said
> "- show quoted text -
> In my experience, if you hit off-center, it is exacerbated by a few of
> things:
> The shape of the cue tip leather, which I prefer to be uniformly rounded;
> How the tip is chalked, which determines the grabbiness;
> The flex of the front 20% of the cue shaft, which in turn is affected by
> how hard you strike;
> Whether you are stroking above or below the horizontal midline of the
> cue ball.
> "
>
> Yes.
> Assume perfect roundness and grabbiness
> of tip.
> You think that on
> point of impact and through the
> strike zone, you can make the cue
> travel straight through the Center?
>

Again, this depends on the delivered stroke. If you were going to draw 
the ball, you would pull the stroke so that the tip of the cue never 
passes through the original center of the cue ball. By that time, the 
cue ball has left the tip anyway. It's only on slow, pushed strokes with 
a fair amount of topspin that the follow-through would have an impact on 
the ball, as you know.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#599898

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Michael
>I know Odd plays pool.
>Maybe you do, as well.

I never was very good at it, but what does this have to do with anything?

>What would be a good solution
>to this problem, Michael, that would
>improve our chances, here? Let's
>see your mental acuity.

Again, never was very good, but practice, practice, practice.

Maybe deliberately hit it off center with a known amount of
spin/curve.

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#599937

Mike said
"Maybe deliberately hit it off center with a known amount of 
spin/curve. "
Bingo.
You win.
Weight is also factored in.
Choosing one curve or the other
halves your uncertainty.

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#599947

John when you had this 'out of body experience' were you using any drugs? You can be honest

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#599958

On Friday, October 7, 2016 at 4:17:41 PM UTC-7, HVAC wrote:
> John when you had this 'out of body experience' were you using any drugs? You can be honest

I already speculated about this... gotta be 'shrooms...

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#599959

On 10/7/2016 9:03 PM, pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, October 7, 2016 at 4:17:41 PM UTC-7, HVAC wrote:
>> John when you had this 'out of body experience' were you using any drugs? You can be honest
>
> I already speculated about this... gotta be 'shrooms...
>

John might tell you that 'shrooms allow the mind to be open to contact 
from aliens.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#599963

Bid said
"
John might tell you that 'shrooms allow the mind to be open to contact 
from aliens. "

I know they, and LSD, and other things,
alter the Serotonin availability

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