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Antarctica is melting faster than we knew

Started bykensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid>
First post2018-07-04 05:07 -0400
Last post2018-07-20 21:12 +0000
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  Antarctica is melting faster than we knew kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-04 05:07 -0400
    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Boris Mohar <borism_void_@sympatico.ca> - 2018-07-04 06:39 -0400
    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 12:15 -0700
      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-07-05 13:21 -0700
      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-07-05 14:10 -0700
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 12:04 -0700
          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-07-06 14:33 -0700
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 14:07 -0700
      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-06 15:29 -0500
    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-07-05 21:59 -0400
      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-07-06 13:25 +1000
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-07-05 23:56 -0400
          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-07-06 20:02 +1000
            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-07-06 19:38 -0400
              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 16:56 -0700
                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 17:18 -0700
                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 17:26 -0700
                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 17:56 -0700
                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 19:02 -0700
                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 21:15 -0700
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 23:20 -0700
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 09:05 -0700
                          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-22 17:00 -0700
                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 17:23 -0700
    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-07-05 22:33 -0400
      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-07-05 22:44 -0400
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-05 23:07 -0500
      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-07-06 13:28 +1000
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-07-05 23:50 -0400
          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-07-06 20:03 +1000
            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-07-06 08:04 -0400
              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-07-06 08:16 -0400
                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-06 08:23 -0500
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-07-05 23:57 -0400
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-06 05:42 -0400
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-07-06 08:43 -0400
          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-06 09:19 -0400
            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-07-07 00:21 -0400
              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 23:22 -0700
              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-07 05:38 -0400
                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-07-07 10:33 -0400
                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-07 12:14 -0400
                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-07-07 12:47 -0400
                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-07-07 19:36 +0000
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 12:38 -0700
    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesbabes@bigass-babes.com> - 2018-07-06 05:32 -0700
      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-07-06 08:46 -0400
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Avenging Angel <Not.fucking.likely@NoWay.com> - 2018-07-06 13:29 +0000
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesbabes@bigass-babes.com> - 2018-07-06 08:33 -0700
          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-07-06 20:09 +0000
          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-06 15:31 -0500
          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-07-07 00:24 -0400
      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Frank <"frank "@frank.net> - 2018-07-20 12:16 -0400
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-07-20 21:09 +0000
          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-07-20 22:16 +0100
          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 14:46 -0700
            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 19:24 -0400
              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-20 22:26 -0700
    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Avenging Angel <Not.fucking.likely@NoWay.com> - 2018-07-06 13:27 +0000
      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-07-06 09:34 -0400
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-06 08:39 -0500
          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-06 09:47 -0400
          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-07-06 09:49 -0400
            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-06 09:08 -0500
      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-06 09:40 -0400
    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 14:55 -0700
      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-07-06 18:39 -0400
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 15:46 -0700
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 16:05 -0700
          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 16:08 -0700
            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 16:11 -0700
              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-07-06 23:34 +0000
                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 16:38 -0700
                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-07-06 19:51 -0400
                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 16:55 -0700
                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 17:13 -0700
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 17:24 -0700
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 17:53 -0700
                          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 20:49 -0700
                            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 20:51 -0700
                              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 22:06 -0700
                                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 22:08 -0700
                                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 23:35 -0700
                                    Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-07-07 03:45 -0400
                                      Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-07 05:43 -0400
                                        Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-07-07 11:36 +0100
                                          Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-07 07:11 -0400
                                            Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-07-07 07:46 -0500
                                            Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-07-09 18:50 -0400
                                          Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 12:15 -0700
                                        Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-07-09 18:48 -0400
                                          Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 08:02 -0700
                                      Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-07-07 05:35 -0700
                                        Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-08 10:36 -0700
                                          Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-07-08 11:33 -0700
                                            Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-08 12:33 -0700
                                              Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-07-08 15:54 -0700
                                                Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-08 17:12 -0700
                                                  Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-07-08 17:19 -0700
                                                    Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-08 17:20 -0700
                                                      Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-07-08 17:55 -0700
                                                        Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-08 19:06 -0700
                                                          Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-07-09 03:23 -0700
                                                          Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-09 13:27 -0700
                                                            Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-07-09 16:50 -0700
                                                            Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-09 16:53 -0700
                                                    Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 17:45 -0700
                                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 09:04 -0700
                                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-07-09 18:44 -0400
                                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 16:11 -0700
                                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 09:03 -0700
                            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 20:51 -0700
                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 17:20 -0700
                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 16:56 -0700
                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-07-07 19:38 +0000
                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 12:41 -0700
                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-10 00:01 -0700
                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-07-10 08:15 -0400
                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-07-10 19:22 +0000
                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 12:51 -0700
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-07-10 15:22 -0700
                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-07-10 18:01 -0400
              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-07-06 19:46 -0400
                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 16:56 -0700
                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 17:12 -0700
                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 17:22 -0700
                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 17:39 -0700
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 17:57 -0700
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 18:50 -0700
                          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 23:30 -0700
                            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 23:39 -0700
                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 17:54 -0700
                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 20:43 -0700
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 20:46 -0700
                          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 20:49 -0700
          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 16:13 -0700
            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 17:50 -0700
              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 17:58 -0700
                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 19:00 -0700
              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 19:00 -0700
                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-07-06 22:55 -0400
                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 20:34 -0700
                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 20:40 -0700
                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 20:47 -0700
                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 21:57 -0700
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 23:29 -0700
                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 21:59 -0700
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 23:35 -0700
                          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 23:42 -0700
                            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-07-07 03:21 -0400
                              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 00:54 -0700
                                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-07-07 12:33 -0400
                                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 09:39 -0700
                                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 12:51 -0700
                                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-07 12:14 -0700
                                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 12:50 -0700
                                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Earle Jones <earle.jones@comcast.net> - 2018-07-07 14:52 -0700
                                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-07-08 14:56 -0400
                                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 12:36 -0700
                                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 12:42 -0700
                                          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 13:37 -0700
                                            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 13:44 -0700
                                              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 14:00 -0700
                                                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 14:03 -0700
                                                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 14:17 -0700
                                                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 15:11 -0700
                                                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 16:42 -0700
                                                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 16:46 -0700
                                                          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 00:36 -0700
                                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2018-07-08 13:51 -0700
                                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 12:37 -0700
                                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-07-08 16:16 -0400
                                          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 13:42 -0700
                                            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 13:57 -0700
                                              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 14:01 -0700
                                                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 14:12 -0700
                                                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 15:10 -0700
                                                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 16:40 -0700
                                                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 16:45 -0700
                              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-15 01:45 -0700
                            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 00:56 -0700
                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 20:42 -0700
                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Catalina" <Catalina@Beach.Sun> - 2018-07-15 00:09 -0400
                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-07-15 00:38 -0400
                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Catalina" <Catalina@Beach.Sun> - 2018-07-20 04:01 -0400
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-20 05:12 -0400
                          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-07-20 11:04 +0100
                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-07-15 01:40 -0600
                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-07-15 08:08 -0400
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 12:25 -0400
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Catalina" <Catalina@Beach.Sun> - 2018-07-20 04:03 -0400
                          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-07-20 08:31 -0400
                            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 11:53 -0400
                              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-07-20 21:12 +0000

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#693148

FromCheckmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-08 13:37 -0700
Message-ID<MPG.35ac15eefddba8779942e8@news.altopia.com>
In reply to#693133
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by 
Checkmate!  In article <bdqevo.4nt.19.5@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com 
says...


> what a fk'ing liar
> 



-- 
Checkmate ® 
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Philosopher, Humanitarian
Poet, Elektrishun to the Stars
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Copyright © 2018 
all rights reserved

In loving memory of The Battle Kitten
May 2010-February 12, 2017

"There are many here among us, 
who feel that life is but a joke."

"I am the author of nearly as much kook butthurt as 
kensi."    -Nadegda  
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#693154

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-08 13:44 -0700
Message-ID<bdqijc.juh.19.2@news.alt.net>
In reply to#693148
On 2018-07-08 1:37 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate!  In article <bdqevo.4nt.19.5@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
> says...
> 
> 
>> what a fk'ing liar
>>
> 
> 
> 
yes you are and a gutless shit mouth too ,
and i have made you look like the biggest dick mouth ,
in this newsgroup so do something about it , shit fk

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#693162

FromCheckmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-08 14:00 -0700
Message-ID<MPG.35ac1b3a15741af99942ee@news.altopia.com>
In reply to#693154
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by 
Checkmate!  In article <bdqijc.juh.19.2@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com 
says...


> 
> On 2018-07-08 1:37 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> > Checkmate!  In article <bdqevo.4nt.19.5@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
> > says...
> > 
> > 
> >> what a fk'ing liar
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> yes you are and a gutless shit mouth too ,
> and i have made you look like the biggest dick mouth ,
> in this newsgroup so do something about it , shit fk

Nice meltdown.  I love it when I make you have a full-blown tantrum in 
front of everybody.  The closer you get to The End, the easier this will 
get.

-- 
Checkmate ® 
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Philosopher, Humanitarian
Poet, Elektrishun to the Stars
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Copyright © 2018 
all rights reserved

In loving memory of The Battle Kitten
May 2010-February 12, 2017

"There are many here among us, 
who feel that life is but a joke."

"I am the author of nearly as much kook butthurt as 
kensi."    -Nadegda  
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#693164

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-08 14:03 -0700
Message-ID<bdqjod.s45.19.8@news.alt.net>
In reply to#693162
On 2018-07-08 2:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate!  In article <bdqijc.juh.19.2@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
> says...
> 
> 
>>
>> On 2018-07-08 1:37 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>> Checkmate!  In article <bdqevo.4nt.19.5@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>> says...
>>>
>>>
>>>> what a fk'ing liar
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> yes you are and a gutless shit mouth too ,
>> and i have made you look like the biggest dick mouth ,
>> in this newsgroup so do something about it , shit fk
> 
> Nice meltdown.  I love it when I make you have a full-blown tantrum in
> front of everybody.  The closer you get to The End, the easier this will
> get.
> 
i called you a punk right to you face , punk ,
and i doubt 3 lines is a meltdown ,
i've had you melting for over 2 years now ,
over something i never said

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#693171

FromCheckmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-08 14:17 -0700
Message-ID<MPG.35ac1f60b62930929942f5@news.altopia.com>
In reply to#693164
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by 
Checkmate!  In article <bdqjod.s45.19.8@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com 
says...


> 
> On 2018-07-08 2:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> > Checkmate!  In article <bdqijc.juh.19.2@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
> > says...
> > 
> > 
> >>
> >> On 2018-07-08 1:37 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> >>> Checkmate!  In article <bdqevo.4nt.19.5@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
> >>> says...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> what a fk'ing liar
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> yes you are and a gutless shit mouth too ,
> >> and i have made you look like the biggest dick mouth ,
> >> in this newsgroup so do something about it , shit fk
> > 
> > Nice meltdown.  I love it when I make you have a full-blown tantrum in
> > front of everybody.  The closer you get to The End, the easier this will
> > get.
> > 
> i called you a punk right to you face , punk ,
> and i doubt 3 lines is a meltdown ,
> i've had you melting for over 2 years now ,
> over something i never said

No, you didn't call me anything "right to my face".  You just typed some 
shit-talk from the safety of your basement, and that's all you'll ever 
do.  Keep it up though, so I know how much I'm in your head.

You cant win this one... you're dying like a piece of shit retarded 
junky, and I'm not.

-- 
Checkmate ® 
Author, Humorist, Cynic
Philosopher, Humanitarian
Poet, Elektrishun to the Stars
Usenet Shot-Caller           
Copyright © 2018 
all rights reserved

In loving memory of The Battle Kitten
May 2010-February 12, 2017

"There are many here among us, 
who feel that life is but a joke."

"I am the author of nearly as much kook butthurt as 
kensi."    -Nadegda  
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#693189

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-08 15:11 -0700
Message-ID<bdqnmg.svk.17.15@news.alt.net>
In reply to#693171
On 2018-07-08 2:17 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate!  In article <bdqjod.s45.19.8@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
> says...
> 
> 
>>
>> On 2018-07-08 2:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>> Checkmate!  In article <bdqijc.juh.19.2@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>> says...
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2018-07-08 1:37 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <bdqevo.4nt.19.5@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> what a fk'ing liar
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> yes you are and a gutless shit mouth too ,
>>>> and i have made you look like the biggest dick mouth ,
>>>> in this newsgroup so do something about it , shit fk
>>>
>>> Nice meltdown.  I love it when I make you have a full-blown tantrum in
>>> front of everybody.  The closer you get to The End, the easier this will
>>> get.
>>>
>> i called you a punk right to you face , punk ,
>> and i doubt 3 lines is a meltdown ,
>> i've had you melting for over 2 years now ,
>> over something i never said
> 
> No, you didn't call me anything "right to my face".  You just typed some
> shit-talk from the safety of your basement, and that's all you'll ever
> do.  Keep it up though, so I know how much I'm in your head.
> 
> You cant win this one... you're dying like a piece of shit retarded
> junky, and I'm not.
> 
i called you a punk right to your face , punk

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#693212

FromCheckmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-08 16:42 -0700
Message-ID<MPG.35ac4147d3acb380994301@news.altopia.com>
In reply to#693189
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by 
Checkmate!  In article <bdqnmg.svk.17.15@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com 
says...


> 
> On 2018-07-08 2:17 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> > Checkmate!  In article <bdqjod.s45.19.8@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
> > says...
> > 
> > 
> >>
> >> On 2018-07-08 2:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> >>> Checkmate!  In article <bdqijc.juh.19.2@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
> >>> says...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2018-07-08 1:37 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> >>>>> Checkmate!  In article <bdqevo.4nt.19.5@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
> >>>>> says...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> what a fk'ing liar
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> yes you are and a gutless shit mouth too ,
> >>>> and i have made you look like the biggest dick mouth ,
> >>>> in this newsgroup so do something about it , shit fk
> >>>
> >>> Nice meltdown.  I love it when I make you have a full-blown tantrum in
> >>> front of everybody.  The closer you get to The End, the easier this will
> >>> get.
> >>>
> >> i called you a punk right to you face , punk ,
> >> and i doubt 3 lines is a meltdown ,
> >> i've had you melting for over 2 years now ,
> >> over something i never said
> > 
> > No, you didn't call me anything "right to my face".  You just typed some
> > shit-talk from the safety of your basement, and that's all you'll ever
> > do.  Keep it up though, so I know how much I'm in your head.
> > 
> > You cant win this one... you're dying like a piece of shit retarded
> > junky, and I'm not.
> > 
> i called you a punk right to your face , punk

No, you called some words on a screen a punk because they pissed you off, 
and I did it all from the comfort of my own home.  LOL!

-- 
Checkmate ® 
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Copyright © 2018 
all rights reserved

In loving memory of The Battle Kitten
May 2010-February 12, 2017

"There are many here among us, 
who feel that life is but a joke."

"I am the author of nearly as much kook butthurt as 
kensi."    -Nadegda  
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#693214

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-08 16:46 -0700
Message-ID<bdqt9n.1sc.17.5@news.alt.net>
In reply to#693212
On 2018-07-08 4:42 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate!  In article <bdqnmg.svk.17.15@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
> says...
> 
> 
>>
>> On 2018-07-08 2:17 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>> Checkmate!  In article <bdqjod.s45.19.8@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>> says...
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2018-07-08 2:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <bdqijc.juh.19.2@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-07-08 1:37 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <bdqevo.4nt.19.5@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> what a fk'ing liar
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> yes you are and a gutless shit mouth too ,
>>>>>> and i have made you look like the biggest dick mouth ,
>>>>>> in this newsgroup so do something about it , shit fk
>>>>>
>>>>> Nice meltdown.  I love it when I make you have a full-blown tantrum in
>>>>> front of everybody.  The closer you get to The End, the easier this will
>>>>> get.
>>>>>
>>>> i called you a punk right to you face , punk ,
>>>> and i doubt 3 lines is a meltdown ,
>>>> i've had you melting for over 2 years now ,
>>>> over something i never said
>>>
>>> No, you didn't call me anything "right to my face".  You just typed some
>>> shit-talk from the safety of your basement, and that's all you'll ever
>>> do.  Keep it up though, so I know how much I'm in your head.
>>>
>>> You cant win this one... you're dying like a piece of shit retarded
>>> junky, and I'm not.
>>>
>> i called you a punk right to your face , punk
> 
> No, you called some words on a screen a punk because they pissed you off,
> and I did it all from the comfort of my own home.  LOL!
> 
punk , punk , in your face in your face

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#693262

FromCheckmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-09 00:36 -0700
Message-ID<MPG.35ac7728e862d2e3994310@news.altopia.com>
In reply to#693214
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by 
Checkmate!  In article <bdqt9n.1sc.17.5@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com 
says...


> 
> On 2018-07-08 4:42 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> > Checkmate!  In article <bdqnmg.svk.17.15@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
> > says...
> > 
> > 
> >>
> >> On 2018-07-08 2:17 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> >>> Checkmate!  In article <bdqjod.s45.19.8@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
> >>> says...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2018-07-08 2:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> >>>>> Checkmate!  In article <bdqijc.juh.19.2@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
> >>>>> says...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2018-07-08 1:37 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> >>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <bdqevo.4nt.19.5@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
> >>>>>>> says...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> what a fk'ing liar
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> yes you are and a gutless shit mouth too ,
> >>>>>> and i have made you look like the biggest dick mouth ,
> >>>>>> in this newsgroup so do something about it , shit fk
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Nice meltdown.  I love it when I make you have a full-blown tantrum in
> >>>>> front of everybody.  The closer you get to The End, the easier this will
> >>>>> get.
> >>>>>
> >>>> i called you a punk right to you face , punk ,
> >>>> and i doubt 3 lines is a meltdown ,
> >>>> i've had you melting for over 2 years now ,
> >>>> over something i never said
> >>>
> >>> No, you didn't call me anything "right to my face".  You just typed some
> >>> shit-talk from the safety of your basement, and that's all you'll ever
> >>> do.  Keep it up though, so I know how much I'm in your head.
> >>>
> >>> You cant win this one... you're dying like a piece of shit retarded
> >>> junky, and I'm not.
> >>>
> >> i called you a punk right to your face , punk
> > 
> > No, you called some words on a screen a punk because they pissed you off,
> > and I did it all from the comfort of my own home.  LOL!
> > 
> punk , punk , in your face in your face

<more LOLs>

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Checkmate ® 
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Philosopher, Humanitarian
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In loving memory of The Battle Kitten
May 2010-February 12, 2017

"There are many here among us, 
who feel that life is but a joke."

"I am the author of nearly as much kook butthurt as 
kensi."    -Nadegda  
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#693158

FromJanithor <Janithor@comcast.net>
Date2018-07-08 13:51 -0700
Message-ID<phttgg$ukj$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#693130
x-no-archive: yes

On 7/8/2018 12:36 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate!  In article <phtmpi$u3p$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...

>> I kept my edges sharp so I could ski on ice - sometimes that's all you'd
>> have until the sideways guys busted it into corn.  I had a stone that
>> I'd run down the face with a little oil then I'd burnish the edge with a
>> piece of drill rod to put a little hook in it.  If there wasn't enough
>> edge to work with, I'd go after the sides with some 400 grit wet-or dry
>> on a hard block with soap water until the edge was flush again.  Then I
>> could skate, if that's what was needed.  Worst people crash was going
>> over somebody's loose ski and gouging it up pretty good.  It was a new
>> ski.  Sad.  I tended to do all my hill bombing where the wobblies
>> weren't.  If the first 500ft was at 45 degrees, people would filter
>> themselves out.  Didn't need no damn black diamonds.
> 
> I saw a guy plow into a girl once at the bottom of a run, where he should
> have slowed down.  The girl went to the hospital, and the guy got cuffed
> and stuffed and went to the pokey to get poked.  Seems they don't cotton
> to reckless skiing when there's a wreck.

I wonder what the carbon footprint is for skiing.

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#693131

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-08 12:37 -0700
Message-ID<bdqelq.4nt.19.3@news.alt.net>
In reply to#693127
On 2018-07-08 11:56 AM, mixed nuts wrote:
> On 7/7/2018 3:50 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>> Checkmate!  In article <phqq0t$gp1$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
>>> On 7/7/2018 3:54 AM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>>> Checkmate!  In article <phppmi$rnk$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>>>> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
>>>>> On 7/7/2018 2:42 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 11:35 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phphbm$2d4$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 8:47 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>>>>> reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>> <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to act soon if we want to protect the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> southernmost continent:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history of Earth wrt cycles of cooling and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-glaciated, back about 550 million years ago,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before trees and vertebrates evolved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where virtually no ice sheets existed. Cycles where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the tropical temperatures extended up into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> poles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> throughout Earth's history.  That's why it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ludicrous to be overly concerned about a degree or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it's even more ludicrous to think we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "reverse" it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> no practical way we can reverse the current cycle:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine, however, it will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing, so to speak.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the
>>>>>>>>>>>> economy as fragile as it is, we're very energy-dependent,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and we're simply going to have to live with that.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
>>>>>>>>>>>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can
>>>>>>>>>>>> realistically do to lower CO2 output, but compared to
>>>>>>>>>>>> historical long term climate changes, this is nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35
>>>>>>>>>>> below and sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel
>>>>>>>>>>> more coal into the stoker and pull out the clinker and lay
>>>>>>>>>>> a new fire.  You could tell when it was getting low - the
>>>>>>>>>>> pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it and
>>>>>>>>>>> that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it
>>>>>>>>>>> right away, one of my sisters would yell into my room and
>>>>>>>>>>> order ol' cinderfeller (me) to get a move on.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I
>>>>>>>>>>> don't have a proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry
>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it
>>>>>>>>>> getting around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on
>>>>>>>>>> the front of the cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of
>>>>>>>>>> the cars were basically playing Plinko with the reinforced
>>>>>>>>>> snow banks. I accidentally made the mistake of not plowing
>>>>>>>>>> the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows the night
>>>>>>>>>> before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after
>>>>>>>>>> the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to
>>>>>>>>>> -35. Shi%.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is
>>>>>>>>> excellent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fwiw, my cousins are easily good enough to take on anything Motts
>>>>>>>> Canyon or Killebrew Canyon can throw at them. Very good skiers.
>>>>>>>> Make me look like total garbage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I picked up intermediate skills the first time I went out.  I was
>>>>>>> content with that, and didn't venture out onto the diamond lanes.
>>>>>>> I don't remember whether it was Heavenly or Mammoth... probably
>>>>>>> Mammoth, where there was a gondola that took you up to the edge of
>>>>>>> what looked to me like a fucking cliff.  I watched so many guys
>>>>>>> take that ride and then just stand at the edge psyching themselves
>>>>>>> out.  I suspect a fair number of them rode the gondola back down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah. Totally Agree.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fwiw, not a total cliff, but a sense of the feeling:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://youtu.be/UptwZ_nkbow?t=80
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mott's Canyon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eastern skiing is different:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox6DEBx9MdU
>>>>>
>>>>> Can't go all that fast up in the trees but you can bomb the open part
>>>>> near the bottom about 60-70 mph so you can get some good air off 
>>>>> the bumps.
>>>>
>>>> That's putting your balls in the rough... you could easily do a Sonny
>>>> Bono on that trail.  That WAS a trail... right?
>>>
>>> Me and my friends would go up on the mountain in the summer with our
>>> hatchets and saws to open up some trails so we wouldn't catch a ski
>>> under a tipped over sapling or in a raspberry swamp and get killed or
>>> something.
>>
>> All "legally"... right?
> 
> It's a town mountain.  You could just go up there and do stuff as long 
> as you didn't hurt anything that was protected like trilliums or out of 
> season like trouts and deers, sometimes.  People would pick raspberries 
> and blueberries, go fishing in the lake, shoot deer and mooses and 
> collect firewood from dead trees.  Nobody ever went to jail for doing 
> that because IT WAS LEGAL!
> 
>>> There was a gay homo faggot prevert in town who owned a
>>> flower and shrub farm and landscaping business and he would go up there
>>> when he had some free time and run a brush hog around.
>>
>> How did the hawg take to that?  Did he squeal like a pig?
> 
> It was a Gravely.  It went puttputtputt.  Like this but without the 
> trailer seat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihCEXpgaX6I
>>
>>> Sometimes we'd
>>> stand around gabbing with him when it was hot and we needed to cool off.
>>> He never molested any of us.  I think the rumors weren't accurate.
>>
>> Were you disappointed?
> 
> We did even know he was a homo fag gay prevert until we got into high 
> school and that's what some people were saying.  Maybe it's because had 
> a huge nice garden you could wander through and decide what plants you 
> wanted and get landscaping ideas.  Some people would just go there to 
> admire it.  Normal people don't have gardens like that, presumably.
> 
>>> If you don't like trees, there are some treeless places to ski:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM7YknhIKeU
>>
>> Most of the Left Coast ski runs are pretty wide, with mogul fields and
>> stuff.
>>
>> One time... at Band Camp, I was skiing and came upon a big pinnacle on
>> the path, with a smaller trail going around it.  I decided to take the
>> road less traveled, and as soon as I got around it, there was a lot of
>> crusty ice.  I went into it kinda fast, but started the careful process
>> of slowing down, lest I end up taking a dump.  Then I see four of the
>> stupidest, most retarded girls, who obviously knew nothing about skiing,
>> and they're standing four abreast (or would that be eight abreast?) and
>> they're HOLDING HANDS!  They're all trying to "walk" in their skis, and
>> I've got no way around them, and not enough time to get myself slowed
>> down on all that ice, so I did the only thing I could do... I dumped it
>> to keep from taking those dumb bitches out like bowling pins.  I fucked
>> up my right shoulder real good.  So good, in fact, it was at least three
>> years before I could raise my right arm above shoulder height.
> 
> I kept my edges sharp so I could ski on ice - sometimes that's all you'd 
> have until the sideways guys busted it into corn.  I had a stone that 
> I'd run down the face with a little oil then I'd burnish the edge with a 
> piece of drill rod to put a little hook in it.  If there wasn't enough 
> edge to work with, I'd go after the sides with some 400 grit wet-or dry 
> on a hard block with soap water until the edge was flush again.  Then I 
> could skate, if that's what was needed.  Worst people crash was going 
> over somebody's loose ski and gouging it up pretty good.  It was a new 
> ski.  Sad.  I tended to do all my hill bombing where the wobblies 
> weren't.  If the first 500ft was at 45 degrees, people would filter 
> themselves out.  Didn't need no damn black diamonds.
> 
i water ski

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#693144

Frommixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie>
Date2018-07-08 16:16 -0400
Message-ID<phtrfd$15r1$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#693131
On 7/8/2018 3:37 PM, % wrote:
> On 2018-07-08 11:56 AM, mixed nuts wrote:
>> On 7/7/2018 3:50 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>> Checkmate!  In article <phqq0t$gp1$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>>> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
>>>> On 7/7/2018 3:54 AM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading 
>>>>> posts by
>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <phppmi$rnk$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>>>>> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
>>>>>> On 7/7/2018 2:42 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 11:35 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phphbm$2d4$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 8:47 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to act soon if we want to protect the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> southernmost continent:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history of Earth wrt cycles of cooling and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-glaciated, back about 550 million years ago,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before trees and vertebrates evolved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where virtually no ice sheets existed. Cycles where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the tropical temperatures extended up into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> poles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> throughout Earth's history.  That's why it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ludicrous to be overly concerned about a degree or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it's even more ludicrous to think we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "reverse" it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no practical way we can reverse the current cycle:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine, however, it will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing, so to speak.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> economy as fragile as it is, we're very energy-dependent,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and we're simply going to have to live with that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
>>>>>>>>>>>>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> realistically do to lower CO2 output, but compared to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> historical long term climate changes, this is nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35
>>>>>>>>>>>> below and sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel
>>>>>>>>>>>> more coal into the stoker and pull out the clinker and lay
>>>>>>>>>>>> a new fire.  You could tell when it was getting low - the
>>>>>>>>>>>> pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it and
>>>>>>>>>>>> that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it
>>>>>>>>>>>> right away, one of my sisters would yell into my room and
>>>>>>>>>>>> order ol' cinderfeller (me) to get a move on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have a proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry
>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it
>>>>>>>>>>> getting around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on
>>>>>>>>>>> the front of the cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of
>>>>>>>>>>> the cars were basically playing Plinko with the reinforced
>>>>>>>>>>> snow banks. I accidentally made the mistake of not plowing
>>>>>>>>>>> the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows the night
>>>>>>>>>>> before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after
>>>>>>>>>>> the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to
>>>>>>>>>>> -35. Shi%.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is
>>>>>>>>>> excellent.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Fwiw, my cousins are easily good enough to take on anything Motts
>>>>>>>>> Canyon or Killebrew Canyon can throw at them. Very good skiers.
>>>>>>>>> Make me look like total garbage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I picked up intermediate skills the first time I went out.  I was
>>>>>>>> content with that, and didn't venture out onto the diamond lanes.
>>>>>>>> I don't remember whether it was Heavenly or Mammoth... probably
>>>>>>>> Mammoth, where there was a gondola that took you up to the edge of
>>>>>>>> what looked to me like a fucking cliff.  I watched so many guys
>>>>>>>> take that ride and then just stand at the edge psyching themselves
>>>>>>>> out.  I suspect a fair number of them rode the gondola back down.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah. Totally Agree.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fwiw, not a total cliff, but a sense of the feeling:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/UptwZ_nkbow?t=80
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mott's Canyon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eastern skiing is different:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox6DEBx9MdU
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can't go all that fast up in the trees but you can bomb the open part
>>>>>> near the bottom about 60-70 mph so you can get some good air off 
>>>>>> the bumps.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's putting your balls in the rough... you could easily do a Sonny
>>>>> Bono on that trail.  That WAS a trail... right?
>>>>
>>>> Me and my friends would go up on the mountain in the summer with our
>>>> hatchets and saws to open up some trails so we wouldn't catch a ski
>>>> under a tipped over sapling or in a raspberry swamp and get killed or
>>>> something.
>>>
>>> All "legally"... right?
>>
>> It's a town mountain.  You could just go up there and do stuff as long 
>> as you didn't hurt anything that was protected like trilliums or out 
>> of season like trouts and deers, sometimes.  People would pick 
>> raspberries and blueberries, go fishing in the lake, shoot deer and 
>> mooses and collect firewood from dead trees.  Nobody ever went to jail 
>> for doing that because IT WAS LEGAL!
>>
>>>> There was a gay homo faggot prevert in town who owned a
>>>> flower and shrub farm and landscaping business and he would go up there
>>>> when he had some free time and run a brush hog around.
>>>
>>> How did the hawg take to that?  Did he squeal like a pig?
>>
>> It was a Gravely.  It went puttputtputt.  Like this but without the 
>> trailer seat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihCEXpgaX6I
>>>
>>>> Sometimes we'd
>>>> stand around gabbing with him when it was hot and we needed to cool 
>>>> off.
>>>> He never molested any of us.  I think the rumors weren't accurate.
>>>
>>> Were you disappointed?
>>
>> We did even know he was a homo fag gay prevert until we got into high 
>> school and that's what some people were saying.  Maybe it's because 
>> had a huge nice garden you could wander through and decide what plants 
>> you wanted and get landscaping ideas.  Some people would just go there 
>> to admire it.  Normal people don't have gardens like that, presumably.
>>
>>>> If you don't like trees, there are some treeless places to ski:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM7YknhIKeU
>>>
>>> Most of the Left Coast ski runs are pretty wide, with mogul fields and
>>> stuff.
>>>
>>> One time... at Band Camp, I was skiing and came upon a big pinnacle on
>>> the path, with a smaller trail going around it.  I decided to take the
>>> road less traveled, and as soon as I got around it, there was a lot of
>>> crusty ice.  I went into it kinda fast, but started the careful process
>>> of slowing down, lest I end up taking a dump.  Then I see four of the
>>> stupidest, most retarded girls, who obviously knew nothing about skiing,
>>> and they're standing four abreast (or would that be eight abreast?) and
>>> they're HOLDING HANDS!  They're all trying to "walk" in their skis, and
>>> I've got no way around them, and not enough time to get myself slowed
>>> down on all that ice, so I did the only thing I could do... I dumped it
>>> to keep from taking those dumb bitches out like bowling pins.  I fucked
>>> up my right shoulder real good.  So good, in fact, it was at least three
>>> years before I could raise my right arm above shoulder height.
>>
>> I kept my edges sharp so I could ski on ice - sometimes that's all 
>> you'd have until the sideways guys busted it into corn.  I had a stone 
>> that I'd run down the face with a little oil then I'd burnish the edge 
>> with a piece of drill rod to put a little hook in it.  If there wasn't 
>> enough edge to work with, I'd go after the sides with some 400 grit 
>> wet-or dry on a hard block with soap water until the edge was flush 
>> again.  Then I could skate, if that's what was needed.  Worst people 
>> crash was going over somebody's loose ski and gouging it up pretty 
>> good.  It was a new ski.  Sad.  I tended to do all my hill bombing 
>> where the wobblies weren't.  If the first 500ft was at 45 degrees, 
>> people would filter themselves out.  Didn't need no damn black diamonds.
>>
> i water ski

I did that a few times because one of the people near my aunt's camp had 
a 50HP Merc and he'd tow you if you asked but nobody in my family had a 
power boat because you don't need one for fishing in the lily pads for 
pickerel or near the dam for trouts or off the dock for perch and 
bluegill.  So water skiing wasn't an easy thing to come by, when I was a 
kid.

-- 
Grizzly H.

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#693151

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-08 13:42 -0700
Message-ID<bdqifs.juh.19.1@news.alt.net>
In reply to#693144
On 2018-07-08 1:16 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> On 7/8/2018 3:37 PM, % wrote:
>> On 2018-07-08 11:56 AM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>> On 7/7/2018 3:50 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>>> Checkmate!  In article <phqq0t$gp1$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>>>> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
>>>>> On 7/7/2018 3:54 AM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading 
>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <phppmi$rnk$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>>>>>> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
>>>>>>> On 7/7/2018 2:42 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 11:35 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phphbm$2d4$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 8:47 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to act soon if we want to protect the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> southernmost continent:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history of Earth wrt cycles of cooling and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-glaciated, back about 550 million years ago,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before trees and vertebrates evolved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where virtually no ice sheets existed. Cycles where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the tropical temperatures extended up into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> poles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> throughout Earth's history.  That's why it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ludicrous to be overly concerned about a degree or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it's even more ludicrous to think we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "reverse" it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no practical way we can reverse the current cycle:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine, however, it will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing, so to speak.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economy as fragile as it is, we're very energy-dependent,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and we're simply going to have to live with that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> realistically do to lower CO2 output, but compared to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> historical long term climate changes, this is nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35
>>>>>>>>>>>>> below and sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel
>>>>>>>>>>>>> more coal into the stoker and pull out the clinker and lay
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new fire.  You could tell when it was getting low - the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> right away, one of my sisters would yell into my room and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> order ol' cinderfeller (me) to get a move on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have a proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it
>>>>>>>>>>>> getting around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on
>>>>>>>>>>>> the front of the cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the cars were basically playing Plinko with the reinforced
>>>>>>>>>>>> snow banks. I accidentally made the mistake of not plowing
>>>>>>>>>>>> the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows the night
>>>>>>>>>>>> before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after
>>>>>>>>>>>> the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to
>>>>>>>>>>>> -35. Shi%.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is
>>>>>>>>>>> excellent.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Fwiw, my cousins are easily good enough to take on anything Motts
>>>>>>>>>> Canyon or Killebrew Canyon can throw at them. Very good skiers.
>>>>>>>>>> Make me look like total garbage.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I picked up intermediate skills the first time I went out.  I was
>>>>>>>>> content with that, and didn't venture out onto the diamond lanes.
>>>>>>>>> I don't remember whether it was Heavenly or Mammoth... probably
>>>>>>>>> Mammoth, where there was a gondola that took you up to the edge of
>>>>>>>>> what looked to me like a fucking cliff.  I watched so many guys
>>>>>>>>> take that ride and then just stand at the edge psyching themselves
>>>>>>>>> out.  I suspect a fair number of them rode the gondola back down.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah. Totally Agree.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fwiw, not a total cliff, but a sense of the feeling:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/UptwZ_nkbow?t=80
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mott's Canyon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eastern skiing is different:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox6DEBx9MdU
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can't go all that fast up in the trees but you can bomb the open 
>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>> near the bottom about 60-70 mph so you can get some good air off 
>>>>>>> the bumps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's putting your balls in the rough... you could easily do a Sonny
>>>>>> Bono on that trail.  That WAS a trail... right?
>>>>>
>>>>> Me and my friends would go up on the mountain in the summer with our
>>>>> hatchets and saws to open up some trails so we wouldn't catch a ski
>>>>> under a tipped over sapling or in a raspberry swamp and get killed or
>>>>> something.
>>>>
>>>> All "legally"... right?
>>>
>>> It's a town mountain.  You could just go up there and do stuff as 
>>> long as you didn't hurt anything that was protected like trilliums or 
>>> out of season like trouts and deers, sometimes.  People would pick 
>>> raspberries and blueberries, go fishing in the lake, shoot deer and 
>>> mooses and collect firewood from dead trees.  Nobody ever went to 
>>> jail for doing that because IT WAS LEGAL!
>>>
>>>>> There was a gay homo faggot prevert in town who owned a
>>>>> flower and shrub farm and landscaping business and he would go up 
>>>>> there
>>>>> when he had some free time and run a brush hog around.
>>>>
>>>> How did the hawg take to that?  Did he squeal like a pig?
>>>
>>> It was a Gravely.  It went puttputtputt.  Like this but without the 
>>> trailer seat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihCEXpgaX6I
>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes we'd
>>>>> stand around gabbing with him when it was hot and we needed to cool 
>>>>> off.
>>>>> He never molested any of us.  I think the rumors weren't accurate.
>>>>
>>>> Were you disappointed?
>>>
>>> We did even know he was a homo fag gay prevert until we got into high 
>>> school and that's what some people were saying.  Maybe it's because 
>>> had a huge nice garden you could wander through and decide what 
>>> plants you wanted and get landscaping ideas.  Some people would just 
>>> go there to admire it.  Normal people don't have gardens like that, 
>>> presumably.
>>>
>>>>> If you don't like trees, there are some treeless places to ski:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM7YknhIKeU
>>>>
>>>> Most of the Left Coast ski runs are pretty wide, with mogul fields and
>>>> stuff.
>>>>
>>>> One time... at Band Camp, I was skiing and came upon a big pinnacle on
>>>> the path, with a smaller trail going around it.  I decided to take the
>>>> road less traveled, and as soon as I got around it, there was a lot of
>>>> crusty ice.  I went into it kinda fast, but started the careful process
>>>> of slowing down, lest I end up taking a dump.  Then I see four of the
>>>> stupidest, most retarded girls, who obviously knew nothing about 
>>>> skiing,
>>>> and they're standing four abreast (or would that be eight abreast?) and
>>>> they're HOLDING HANDS!  They're all trying to "walk" in their skis, and
>>>> I've got no way around them, and not enough time to get myself slowed
>>>> down on all that ice, so I did the only thing I could do... I dumped it
>>>> to keep from taking those dumb bitches out like bowling pins.  I fucked
>>>> up my right shoulder real good.  So good, in fact, it was at least 
>>>> three
>>>> years before I could raise my right arm above shoulder height.
>>>
>>> I kept my edges sharp so I could ski on ice - sometimes that's all 
>>> you'd have until the sideways guys busted it into corn.  I had a 
>>> stone that I'd run down the face with a little oil then I'd burnish 
>>> the edge with a piece of drill rod to put a little hook in it.  If 
>>> there wasn't enough edge to work with, I'd go after the sides with 
>>> some 400 grit wet-or dry on a hard block with soap water until the 
>>> edge was flush again.  Then I could skate, if that's what was 
>>> needed.  Worst people crash was going over somebody's loose ski and 
>>> gouging it up pretty good.  It was a new ski.  Sad.  I tended to do 
>>> all my hill bombing where the wobblies weren't.  If the first 500ft 
>>> was at 45 degrees, people would filter themselves out.  Didn't need 
>>> no damn black diamonds.
>>>
>> i water ski
> 
> I did that a few times because one of the people near my aunt's camp had 
> a 50HP Merc and he'd tow you if you asked but nobody in my family had a 
> power boat because you don't need one for fishing in the lily pads for 
> pickerel or near the dam for trouts or off the dock for perch and 
> bluegill.  So water skiing wasn't an easy thing to come by, when I was a 
> kid.
> 
my brother and i started off with ,
towing each other around the lake on ,
a piece of poplar underlay and a 10 horse ,
we finally got upgraded to a 25 it was big enough for skis ,
and we still managed to get in where the walleye are

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#693160

FromCheckmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-08 13:57 -0700
Message-ID<MPG.35ac1a93830a9d979942ed@news.altopia.com>
In reply to#693151
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by 
Checkmate!  In article <bdqifs.juh.19.1@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com 
says...


> 
> On 2018-07-08 1:16 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> > On 7/8/2018 3:37 PM, % wrote:
> >> On 2018-07-08 11:56 AM, mixed nuts wrote:
> >>> On 7/7/2018 3:50 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> >>>> Checkmate!  In article <phqq0t$gp1$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
> >>>> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
> >>>>> On 7/7/2018 3:54 AM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading 
> >>>>>> posts by
> >>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <phppmi$rnk$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
> >>>>>> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
> >>>>>>> On 7/7/2018 2:42 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 11:35 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
> >>>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phphbm$2d4$2@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 8:47 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
> >>>>>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to act soon if we want to protect the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> southernmost continent:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history of Earth wrt cycles of cooling and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-glaciated, back about 550 million years ago,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before trees and vertebrates evolved.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where virtually no ice sheets existed. Cycles where
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the tropical temperatures extended up into the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> poles.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> throughout Earth's history.  That's why it's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ludicrous to be overly concerned about a degree or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it's even more ludicrous to think we can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "reverse" it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no practical way we can reverse the current cycle:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine, however, it will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing, so to speak.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> economy as fragile as it is, we're very energy-dependent,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and we're simply going to have to live with that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> realistically do to lower CO2 output, but compared to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> historical long term climate changes, this is nothing.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> below and sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> more coal into the stoker and pull out the clinker and lay
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a new fire.  You could tell when it was getting low - the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> right away, one of my sisters would yell into my room and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> order ol' cinderfeller (me) to get a move on.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have a proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> getting around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the front of the cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the cars were basically playing Plinko with the reinforced
> >>>>>>>>>>>> snow banks. I accidentally made the mistake of not plowing
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows the night
> >>>>>>>>>>>> before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> -35. Shi%.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is
> >>>>>>>>>>> excellent.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Fwiw, my cousins are easily good enough to take on anything Motts
> >>>>>>>>>> Canyon or Killebrew Canyon can throw at them. Very good skiers.
> >>>>>>>>>> Make me look like total garbage.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I picked up intermediate skills the first time I went out.  I was
> >>>>>>>>> content with that, and didn't venture out onto the diamond lanes.
> >>>>>>>>> I don't remember whether it was Heavenly or Mammoth... probably
> >>>>>>>>> Mammoth, where there was a gondola that took you up to the edge of
> >>>>>>>>> what looked to me like a fucking cliff.  I watched so many guys
> >>>>>>>>> take that ride and then just stand at the edge psyching themselves
> >>>>>>>>> out.  I suspect a fair number of them rode the gondola back down.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Yeah. Totally Agree.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Fwiw, not a total cliff, but a sense of the feeling:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/UptwZ_nkbow?t=80
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Mott's Canyon.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Eastern skiing is different:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox6DEBx9MdU
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Can't go all that fast up in the trees but you can bomb the open 
> >>>>>>> part
> >>>>>>> near the bottom about 60-70 mph so you can get some good air off 
> >>>>>>> the bumps.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That's putting your balls in the rough... you could easily do a Sonny
> >>>>>> Bono on that trail.  That WAS a trail... right?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Me and my friends would go up on the mountain in the summer with our
> >>>>> hatchets and saws to open up some trails so we wouldn't catch a ski
> >>>>> under a tipped over sapling or in a raspberry swamp and get killed or
> >>>>> something.
> >>>>
> >>>> All "legally"... right?
> >>>
> >>> It's a town mountain.  You could just go up there and do stuff as 
> >>> long as you didn't hurt anything that was protected like trilliums or 
> >>> out of season like trouts and deers, sometimes.  People would pick 
> >>> raspberries and blueberries, go fishing in the lake, shoot deer and 
> >>> mooses and collect firewood from dead trees.  Nobody ever went to 
> >>> jail for doing that because IT WAS LEGAL!
> >>>
> >>>>> There was a gay homo faggot prevert in town who owned a
> >>>>> flower and shrub farm and landscaping business and he would go up 
> >>>>> there
> >>>>> when he had some free time and run a brush hog around.
> >>>>
> >>>> How did the hawg take to that?  Did he squeal like a pig?
> >>>
> >>> It was a Gravely.  It went puttputtputt.  Like this but without the 
> >>> trailer seat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihCEXpgaX6I
> >>>>
> >>>>> Sometimes we'd
> >>>>> stand around gabbing with him when it was hot and we needed to cool 
> >>>>> off.
> >>>>> He never molested any of us.  I think the rumors weren't accurate.
> >>>>
> >>>> Were you disappointed?
> >>>
> >>> We did even know he was a homo fag gay prevert until we got into high 
> >>> school and that's what some people were saying.  Maybe it's because 
> >>> had a huge nice garden you could wander through and decide what 
> >>> plants you wanted and get landscaping ideas.  Some people would just 
> >>> go there to admire it.  Normal people don't have gardens like that, 
> >>> presumably.
> >>>
> >>>>> If you don't like trees, there are some treeless places to ski:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM7YknhIKeU
> >>>>
> >>>> Most of the Left Coast ski runs are pretty wide, with mogul fields and
> >>>> stuff.
> >>>>
> >>>> One time... at Band Camp, I was skiing and came upon a big pinnacle on
> >>>> the path, with a smaller trail going around it.  I decided to take the
> >>>> road less traveled, and as soon as I got around it, there was a lot of
> >>>> crusty ice.  I went into it kinda fast, but started the careful process
> >>>> of slowing down, lest I end up taking a dump.  Then I see four of the
> >>>> stupidest, most retarded girls, who obviously knew nothing about 
> >>>> skiing,
> >>>> and they're standing four abreast (or would that be eight abreast?) and
> >>>> they're HOLDING HANDS!  They're all trying to "walk" in their skis, and
> >>>> I've got no way around them, and not enough time to get myself slowed
> >>>> down on all that ice, so I did the only thing I could do... I dumped it
> >>>> to keep from taking those dumb bitches out like bowling pins.  I fucked
> >>>> up my right shoulder real good.  So good, in fact, it was at least 
> >>>> three
> >>>> years before I could raise my right arm above shoulder height.
> >>>
> >>> I kept my edges sharp so I could ski on ice - sometimes that's all 
> >>> you'd have until the sideways guys busted it into corn.  I had a 
> >>> stone that I'd run down the face with a little oil then I'd burnish 
> >>> the edge with a piece of drill rod to put a little hook in it.  If 
> >>> there wasn't enough edge to work with, I'd go after the sides with 
> >>> some 400 grit wet-or dry on a hard block with soap water until the 
> >>> edge was flush again.  Then I could skate, if that's what was 
> >>> needed.  Worst people crash was going over somebody's loose ski and 
> >>> gouging it up pretty good.  It was a new ski.  Sad.  I tended to do 
> >>> all my hill bombing where the wobblies weren't.  If the first 500ft 
> >>> was at 45 degrees, people would filter themselves out.  Didn't need 
> >>> no damn black diamonds.
> >>>
> >> i water ski
> > 
> > I did that a few times because one of the people near my aunt's camp had 
> > a 50HP Merc and he'd tow you if you asked but nobody in my family had a 
> > power boat because you don't need one for fishing in the lily pads for 
> > pickerel or near the dam for trouts or off the dock for perch and 
> > bluegill.  So water skiing wasn't an easy thing to come by, when I was a 
> > kid.
> > 
> my brother and i started off with ,
> towing each other around the lake on ,
> a piece of poplar underlay and a 10 horse ,
> we finally got upgraded to a 25 it was big enough for skis ,
> and we still managed to get in where the walleye are

SURE you did,  You can't even tie your own shoes.  Is your brother 
retarded too?

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#693163

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-08 14:01 -0700
Message-ID<bdqjkl.s45.19.7@news.alt.net>
In reply to#693160
On 2018-07-08 1:57 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate!  In article <bdqifs.juh.19.1@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
> says...
> 
> 
>>
>> On 2018-07-08 1:16 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>> On 7/8/2018 3:37 PM, % wrote:
>>>> On 2018-07-08 11:56 AM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>> On 7/7/2018 3:50 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <phqq0t$gp1$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>>>>>> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
>>>>>>> On 7/7/2018 3:54 AM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <phppmi$rnk$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>>>>>>>> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
>>>>>>>>> On 7/7/2018 2:42 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 11:35 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phphbm$2d4$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 8:47 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to act soon if we want to protect the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> southernmost continent:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history of Earth wrt cycles of cooling and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-glaciated, back about 550 million years ago,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before trees and vertebrates evolved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where virtually no ice sheets existed. Cycles where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the tropical temperatures extended up into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> poles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> throughout Earth's history.  That's why it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ludicrous to be overly concerned about a degree or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it's even more ludicrous to think we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "reverse" it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no practical way we can reverse the current cycle:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine, however, it will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing, so to speak.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economy as fragile as it is, we're very energy-dependent,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and we're simply going to have to live with that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> realistically do to lower CO2 output, but compared to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> historical long term climate changes, this is nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> below and sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more coal into the stoker and pull out the clinker and lay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new fire.  You could tell when it was getting low - the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right away, one of my sisters would yell into my room and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order ol' cinderfeller (me) to get a move on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have a proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the front of the cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the cars were basically playing Plinko with the reinforced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> snow banks. I accidentally made the mistake of not plowing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows the night
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -35. Shi%.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> excellent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fwiw, my cousins are easily good enough to take on anything Motts
>>>>>>>>>>>> Canyon or Killebrew Canyon can throw at them. Very good skiers.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Make me look like total garbage.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I picked up intermediate skills the first time I went out.  I was
>>>>>>>>>>> content with that, and didn't venture out onto the diamond lanes.
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember whether it was Heavenly or Mammoth... probably
>>>>>>>>>>> Mammoth, where there was a gondola that took you up to the edge of
>>>>>>>>>>> what looked to me like a fucking cliff.  I watched so many guys
>>>>>>>>>>> take that ride and then just stand at the edge psyching themselves
>>>>>>>>>>> out.  I suspect a fair number of them rode the gondola back down.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah. Totally Agree.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Fwiw, not a total cliff, but a sense of the feeling:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/UptwZ_nkbow?t=80
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mott's Canyon.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Eastern skiing is different:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox6DEBx9MdU
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can't go all that fast up in the trees but you can bomb the open
>>>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>>>> near the bottom about 60-70 mph so you can get some good air off
>>>>>>>>> the bumps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's putting your balls in the rough... you could easily do a Sonny
>>>>>>>> Bono on that trail.  That WAS a trail... right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Me and my friends would go up on the mountain in the summer with our
>>>>>>> hatchets and saws to open up some trails so we wouldn't catch a ski
>>>>>>> under a tipped over sapling or in a raspberry swamp and get killed or
>>>>>>> something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All "legally"... right?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a town mountain.  You could just go up there and do stuff as
>>>>> long as you didn't hurt anything that was protected like trilliums or
>>>>> out of season like trouts and deers, sometimes.  People would pick
>>>>> raspberries and blueberries, go fishing in the lake, shoot deer and
>>>>> mooses and collect firewood from dead trees.  Nobody ever went to
>>>>> jail for doing that because IT WAS LEGAL!
>>>>>
>>>>>>> There was a gay homo faggot prevert in town who owned a
>>>>>>> flower and shrub farm and landscaping business and he would go up
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> when he had some free time and run a brush hog around.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How did the hawg take to that?  Did he squeal like a pig?
>>>>>
>>>>> It was a Gravely.  It went puttputtputt.  Like this but without the
>>>>> trailer seat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihCEXpgaX6I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sometimes we'd
>>>>>>> stand around gabbing with him when it was hot and we needed to cool
>>>>>>> off.
>>>>>>> He never molested any of us.  I think the rumors weren't accurate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Were you disappointed?
>>>>>
>>>>> We did even know he was a homo fag gay prevert until we got into high
>>>>> school and that's what some people were saying.  Maybe it's because
>>>>> had a huge nice garden you could wander through and decide what
>>>>> plants you wanted and get landscaping ideas.  Some people would just
>>>>> go there to admire it.  Normal people don't have gardens like that,
>>>>> presumably.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you don't like trees, there are some treeless places to ski:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM7YknhIKeU
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Most of the Left Coast ski runs are pretty wide, with mogul fields and
>>>>>> stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One time... at Band Camp, I was skiing and came upon a big pinnacle on
>>>>>> the path, with a smaller trail going around it.  I decided to take the
>>>>>> road less traveled, and as soon as I got around it, there was a lot of
>>>>>> crusty ice.  I went into it kinda fast, but started the careful process
>>>>>> of slowing down, lest I end up taking a dump.  Then I see four of the
>>>>>> stupidest, most retarded girls, who obviously knew nothing about
>>>>>> skiing,
>>>>>> and they're standing four abreast (or would that be eight abreast?) and
>>>>>> they're HOLDING HANDS!  They're all trying to "walk" in their skis, and
>>>>>> I've got no way around them, and not enough time to get myself slowed
>>>>>> down on all that ice, so I did the only thing I could do... I dumped it
>>>>>> to keep from taking those dumb bitches out like bowling pins.  I fucked
>>>>>> up my right shoulder real good.  So good, in fact, it was at least
>>>>>> three
>>>>>> years before I could raise my right arm above shoulder height.
>>>>>
>>>>> I kept my edges sharp so I could ski on ice - sometimes that's all
>>>>> you'd have until the sideways guys busted it into corn.  I had a
>>>>> stone that I'd run down the face with a little oil then I'd burnish
>>>>> the edge with a piece of drill rod to put a little hook in it.  If
>>>>> there wasn't enough edge to work with, I'd go after the sides with
>>>>> some 400 grit wet-or dry on a hard block with soap water until the
>>>>> edge was flush again.  Then I could skate, if that's what was
>>>>> needed.  Worst people crash was going over somebody's loose ski and
>>>>> gouging it up pretty good.  It was a new ski.  Sad.  I tended to do
>>>>> all my hill bombing where the wobblies weren't.  If the first 500ft
>>>>> was at 45 degrees, people would filter themselves out.  Didn't need
>>>>> no damn black diamonds.
>>>>>
>>>> i water ski
>>>
>>> I did that a few times because one of the people near my aunt's camp had
>>> a 50HP Merc and he'd tow you if you asked but nobody in my family had a
>>> power boat because you don't need one for fishing in the lily pads for
>>> pickerel or near the dam for trouts or off the dock for perch and
>>> bluegill.  So water skiing wasn't an easy thing to come by, when I was a
>>> kid.
>>>
>> my brother and i started off with ,
>> towing each other around the lake on ,
>> a piece of poplar underlay and a 10 horse ,
>> we finally got upgraded to a 25 it was big enough for skis ,
>> and we still managed to get in where the walleye are
> 
> SURE you did,  You can't even tie your own shoes.  Is your brother
> retarded too?
> 
do something about it or tough shit for you punk

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#693169

FromCheckmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-08 14:12 -0700
Message-ID<MPG.35ac1e2aad2f69bc9942f4@news.altopia.com>
In reply to#693163
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by 
Checkmate!  In article <bdqjkl.s45.19.7@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com 
says...


> 
> On 2018-07-08 1:57 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> > Checkmate!  In article <bdqifs.juh.19.1@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
> > says...
> > 
> > 
> >>
> >> On 2018-07-08 1:16 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> >>> On 7/8/2018 3:37 PM, % wrote:
> >>>> On 2018-07-08 11:56 AM, mixed nuts wrote:
> >>>>> On 7/7/2018 3:50 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> >>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <phqq0t$gp1$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
> >>>>>> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
> >>>>>>> On 7/7/2018 3:54 AM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
> >>>>>>>> posts by
> >>>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <phppmi$rnk$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
> >>>>>>>> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
> >>>>>>>>> On 7/7/2018 2:42 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 11:35 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
> >>>>>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phphbm$2d4$2@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 8:47 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to act soon if we want to protect the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> southernmost continent:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history of Earth wrt cycles of cooling and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-glaciated, back about 550 million years ago,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before trees and vertebrates evolved.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where virtually no ice sheets existed. Cycles where
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the tropical temperatures extended up into the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> poles.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> throughout Earth's history.  That's why it's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ludicrous to be overly concerned about a degree or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it's even more ludicrous to think we can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "reverse" it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no practical way we can reverse the current cycle:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine, however, it will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing, so to speak.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economy as fragile as it is, we're very energy-dependent,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and we're simply going to have to live with that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> realistically do to lower CO2 output, but compared to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> historical long term climate changes, this is nothing.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> below and sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more coal into the stoker and pull out the clinker and lay
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new fire.  You could tell when it was getting low - the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right away, one of my sisters would yell into my room and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order ol' cinderfeller (me) to get a move on.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have a proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the front of the cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the cars were basically playing Plinko with the reinforced
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> snow banks. I accidentally made the mistake of not plowing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows the night
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -35. Shi%.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> excellent.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Fwiw, my cousins are easily good enough to take on anything Motts
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Canyon or Killebrew Canyon can throw at them. Very good skiers.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Make me look like total garbage.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I picked up intermediate skills the first time I went out.  I was
> >>>>>>>>>>> content with that, and didn't venture out onto the diamond lanes.
> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember whether it was Heavenly or Mammoth... probably
> >>>>>>>>>>> Mammoth, where there was a gondola that took you up to the edge of
> >>>>>>>>>>> what looked to me like a fucking cliff.  I watched so many guys
> >>>>>>>>>>> take that ride and then just stand at the edge psyching themselves
> >>>>>>>>>>> out.  I suspect a fair number of them rode the gondola back down.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Yeah. Totally Agree.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Fwiw, not a total cliff, but a sense of the feeling:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/UptwZ_nkbow?t=80
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Mott's Canyon.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Eastern skiing is different:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox6DEBx9MdU
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Can't go all that fast up in the trees but you can bomb the open
> >>>>>>>>> part
> >>>>>>>>> near the bottom about 60-70 mph so you can get some good air off
> >>>>>>>>> the bumps.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> That's putting your balls in the rough... you could easily do a Sonny
> >>>>>>>> Bono on that trail.  That WAS a trail... right?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Me and my friends would go up on the mountain in the summer with our
> >>>>>>> hatchets and saws to open up some trails so we wouldn't catch a ski
> >>>>>>> under a tipped over sapling or in a raspberry swamp and get killed or
> >>>>>>> something.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> All "legally"... right?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It's a town mountain.  You could just go up there and do stuff as
> >>>>> long as you didn't hurt anything that was protected like trilliums or
> >>>>> out of season like trouts and deers, sometimes.  People would pick
> >>>>> raspberries and blueberries, go fishing in the lake, shoot deer and
> >>>>> mooses and collect firewood from dead trees.  Nobody ever went to
> >>>>> jail for doing that because IT WAS LEGAL!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> There was a gay homo faggot prevert in town who owned a
> >>>>>>> flower and shrub farm and landscaping business and he would go up
> >>>>>>> there
> >>>>>>> when he had some free time and run a brush hog around.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> How did the hawg take to that?  Did he squeal like a pig?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It was a Gravely.  It went puttputtputt.  Like this but without the
> >>>>> trailer seat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihCEXpgaX6I
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sometimes we'd
> >>>>>>> stand around gabbing with him when it was hot and we needed to cool
> >>>>>>> off.
> >>>>>>> He never molested any of us.  I think the rumors weren't accurate.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Were you disappointed?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We did even know he was a homo fag gay prevert until we got into high
> >>>>> school and that's what some people were saying.  Maybe it's because
> >>>>> had a huge nice garden you could wander through and decide what
> >>>>> plants you wanted and get landscaping ideas.  Some people would just
> >>>>> go there to admire it.  Normal people don't have gardens like that,
> >>>>> presumably.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> If you don't like trees, there are some treeless places to ski:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM7YknhIKeU
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Most of the Left Coast ski runs are pretty wide, with mogul fields and
> >>>>>> stuff.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> One time... at Band Camp, I was skiing and came upon a big pinnacle on
> >>>>>> the path, with a smaller trail going around it.  I decided to take the
> >>>>>> road less traveled, and as soon as I got around it, there was a lot of
> >>>>>> crusty ice.  I went into it kinda fast, but started the careful process
> >>>>>> of slowing down, lest I end up taking a dump.  Then I see four of the
> >>>>>> stupidest, most retarded girls, who obviously knew nothing about
> >>>>>> skiing,
> >>>>>> and they're standing four abreast (or would that be eight abreast?) and
> >>>>>> they're HOLDING HANDS!  They're all trying to "walk" in their skis, and
> >>>>>> I've got no way around them, and not enough time to get myself slowed
> >>>>>> down on all that ice, so I did the only thing I could do... I dumped it
> >>>>>> to keep from taking those dumb bitches out like bowling pins.  I fucked
> >>>>>> up my right shoulder real good.  So good, in fact, it was at least
> >>>>>> three
> >>>>>> years before I could raise my right arm above shoulder height.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I kept my edges sharp so I could ski on ice - sometimes that's all
> >>>>> you'd have until the sideways guys busted it into corn.  I had a
> >>>>> stone that I'd run down the face with a little oil then I'd burnish
> >>>>> the edge with a piece of drill rod to put a little hook in it.  If
> >>>>> there wasn't enough edge to work with, I'd go after the sides with
> >>>>> some 400 grit wet-or dry on a hard block with soap water until the
> >>>>> edge was flush again.  Then I could skate, if that's what was
> >>>>> needed.  Worst people crash was going over somebody's loose ski and
> >>>>> gouging it up pretty good.  It was a new ski.  Sad.  I tended to do
> >>>>> all my hill bombing where the wobblies weren't.  If the first 500ft
> >>>>> was at 45 degrees, people would filter themselves out.  Didn't need
> >>>>> no damn black diamonds.
> >>>>>
> >>>> i water ski
> >>>
> >>> I did that a few times because one of the people near my aunt's camp had
> >>> a 50HP Merc and he'd tow you if you asked but nobody in my family had a
> >>> power boat because you don't need one for fishing in the lily pads for
> >>> pickerel or near the dam for trouts or off the dock for perch and
> >>> bluegill.  So water skiing wasn't an easy thing to come by, when I was a
> >>> kid.
> >>>
> >> my brother and i started off with ,
> >> towing each other around the lake on ,
> >> a piece of poplar underlay and a 10 horse ,
> >> we finally got upgraded to a 25 it was big enough for skis ,
> >> and we still managed to get in where the walleye are
> > 
> > SURE you did,  You can't even tie your own shoes.  Is your brother
> > retarded too?
> > 
> do something about it or tough shit for you punk

I am doing something about it.  I'm fucking up your whole day, and you'll 
keep coming back for more.

-- 
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#693187

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-08 15:10 -0700
Message-ID<bdqnks.svk.17.14@news.alt.net>
In reply to#693169
On 2018-07-08 2:12 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate!  In article <bdqjkl.s45.19.7@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
> says...
> 
> 
>>
>> On 2018-07-08 1:57 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>> Checkmate!  In article <bdqifs.juh.19.1@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>> says...
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2018-07-08 1:16 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>> On 7/8/2018 3:37 PM, % wrote:
>>>>>> On 2018-07-08 11:56 AM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/7/2018 3:50 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <phqq0t$gp1$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>>>>>>>> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
>>>>>>>>> On 7/7/2018 3:54 AM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <phppmi$rnk$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>>>>>>>>>> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/7/2018 2:42 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 11:35 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phphbm$2d4$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 8:47 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to act soon if we want to protect the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> southernmost continent:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history of Earth wrt cycles of cooling and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-glaciated, back about 550 million years ago,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before trees and vertebrates evolved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where virtually no ice sheets existed. Cycles where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the tropical temperatures extended up into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> poles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> throughout Earth's history.  That's why it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ludicrous to be overly concerned about a degree or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it's even more ludicrous to think we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "reverse" it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no practical way we can reverse the current cycle:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine, however, it will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing, so to speak.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economy as fragile as it is, we're very energy-dependent,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and we're simply going to have to live with that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> realistically do to lower CO2 output, but compared to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> historical long term climate changes, this is nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> below and sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more coal into the stoker and pull out the clinker and lay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new fire.  You could tell when it was getting low - the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right away, one of my sisters would yell into my room and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order ol' cinderfeller (me) to get a move on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have a proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the front of the cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the cars were basically playing Plinko with the reinforced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> snow banks. I accidentally made the mistake of not plowing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows the night
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -35. Shi%.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excellent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fwiw, my cousins are easily good enough to take on anything Motts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canyon or Killebrew Canyon can throw at them. Very good skiers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make me look like total garbage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I picked up intermediate skills the first time I went out.  I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> content with that, and didn't venture out onto the diamond lanes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember whether it was Heavenly or Mammoth... probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mammoth, where there was a gondola that took you up to the edge of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what looked to me like a fucking cliff.  I watched so many guys
>>>>>>>>>>>>> take that ride and then just stand at the edge psyching themselves
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out.  I suspect a fair number of them rode the gondola back down.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah. Totally Agree.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fwiw, not a total cliff, but a sense of the feeling:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/UptwZ_nkbow?t=80
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mott's Canyon.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Eastern skiing is different:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox6DEBx9MdU
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can't go all that fast up in the trees but you can bomb the open
>>>>>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>>>>>> near the bottom about 60-70 mph so you can get some good air off
>>>>>>>>>>> the bumps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's putting your balls in the rough... you could easily do a Sonny
>>>>>>>>>> Bono on that trail.  That WAS a trail... right?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Me and my friends would go up on the mountain in the summer with our
>>>>>>>>> hatchets and saws to open up some trails so we wouldn't catch a ski
>>>>>>>>> under a tipped over sapling or in a raspberry swamp and get killed or
>>>>>>>>> something.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All "legally"... right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's a town mountain.  You could just go up there and do stuff as
>>>>>>> long as you didn't hurt anything that was protected like trilliums or
>>>>>>> out of season like trouts and deers, sometimes.  People would pick
>>>>>>> raspberries and blueberries, go fishing in the lake, shoot deer and
>>>>>>> mooses and collect firewood from dead trees.  Nobody ever went to
>>>>>>> jail for doing that because IT WAS LEGAL!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There was a gay homo faggot prevert in town who owned a
>>>>>>>>> flower and shrub farm and landscaping business and he would go up
>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>> when he had some free time and run a brush hog around.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How did the hawg take to that?  Did he squeal like a pig?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It was a Gravely.  It went puttputtputt.  Like this but without the
>>>>>>> trailer seat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihCEXpgaX6I
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sometimes we'd
>>>>>>>>> stand around gabbing with him when it was hot and we needed to cool
>>>>>>>>> off.
>>>>>>>>> He never molested any of us.  I think the rumors weren't accurate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Were you disappointed?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We did even know he was a homo fag gay prevert until we got into high
>>>>>>> school and that's what some people were saying.  Maybe it's because
>>>>>>> had a huge nice garden you could wander through and decide what
>>>>>>> plants you wanted and get landscaping ideas.  Some people would just
>>>>>>> go there to admire it.  Normal people don't have gardens like that,
>>>>>>> presumably.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you don't like trees, there are some treeless places to ski:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM7YknhIKeU
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Most of the Left Coast ski runs are pretty wide, with mogul fields and
>>>>>>>> stuff.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One time... at Band Camp, I was skiing and came upon a big pinnacle on
>>>>>>>> the path, with a smaller trail going around it.  I decided to take the
>>>>>>>> road less traveled, and as soon as I got around it, there was a lot of
>>>>>>>> crusty ice.  I went into it kinda fast, but started the careful process
>>>>>>>> of slowing down, lest I end up taking a dump.  Then I see four of the
>>>>>>>> stupidest, most retarded girls, who obviously knew nothing about
>>>>>>>> skiing,
>>>>>>>> and they're standing four abreast (or would that be eight abreast?) and
>>>>>>>> they're HOLDING HANDS!  They're all trying to "walk" in their skis, and
>>>>>>>> I've got no way around them, and not enough time to get myself slowed
>>>>>>>> down on all that ice, so I did the only thing I could do... I dumped it
>>>>>>>> to keep from taking those dumb bitches out like bowling pins.  I fucked
>>>>>>>> up my right shoulder real good.  So good, in fact, it was at least
>>>>>>>> three
>>>>>>>> years before I could raise my right arm above shoulder height.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I kept my edges sharp so I could ski on ice - sometimes that's all
>>>>>>> you'd have until the sideways guys busted it into corn.  I had a
>>>>>>> stone that I'd run down the face with a little oil then I'd burnish
>>>>>>> the edge with a piece of drill rod to put a little hook in it.  If
>>>>>>> there wasn't enough edge to work with, I'd go after the sides with
>>>>>>> some 400 grit wet-or dry on a hard block with soap water until the
>>>>>>> edge was flush again.  Then I could skate, if that's what was
>>>>>>> needed.  Worst people crash was going over somebody's loose ski and
>>>>>>> gouging it up pretty good.  It was a new ski.  Sad.  I tended to do
>>>>>>> all my hill bombing where the wobblies weren't.  If the first 500ft
>>>>>>> was at 45 degrees, people would filter themselves out.  Didn't need
>>>>>>> no damn black diamonds.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> i water ski
>>>>>
>>>>> I did that a few times because one of the people near my aunt's camp had
>>>>> a 50HP Merc and he'd tow you if you asked but nobody in my family had a
>>>>> power boat because you don't need one for fishing in the lily pads for
>>>>> pickerel or near the dam for trouts or off the dock for perch and
>>>>> bluegill.  So water skiing wasn't an easy thing to come by, when I was a
>>>>> kid.
>>>>>
>>>> my brother and i started off with ,
>>>> towing each other around the lake on ,
>>>> a piece of poplar underlay and a 10 horse ,
>>>> we finally got upgraded to a 25 it was big enough for skis ,
>>>> and we still managed to get in where the walleye are
>>>
>>> SURE you did,  You can't even tie your own shoes.  Is your brother
>>> retarded too?
>>>
>> do something about it or tough shit for you punk
> 
> I am doing something about it.  I'm fucking up your whole day, and you'll
> keep coming back for more.
> 
you left your dad alone to die

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#693211

FromCheckmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-08 16:40 -0700
Message-ID<MPG.35ac40da946f9a6b994300@news.altopia.com>
In reply to#693187
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by 
Checkmate!  In article <bdqnks.svk.17.14@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com 
says...


> 
> On 2018-07-08 2:12 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> > Checkmate!  In article <bdqjkl.s45.19.7@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
> > says...
> > 
> > 
> >>
> >> On 2018-07-08 1:57 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> >>> Checkmate!  In article <bdqifs.juh.19.1@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
> >>> says...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2018-07-08 1:16 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> >>>>> On 7/8/2018 3:37 PM, % wrote:
> >>>>>> On 2018-07-08 11:56 AM, mixed nuts wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 7/7/2018 3:50 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> >>>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <phqq0t$gp1$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
> >>>>>>>> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
> >>>>>>>>> On 7/7/2018 3:54 AM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
> >>>>>>>>>> posts by
> >>>>>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <phppmi$rnk$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
> >>>>>>>>>> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 7/7/2018 2:42 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 11:35 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phphbm$2d4$2@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 8:47 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to act soon if we want to protect the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> southernmost continent:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history of Earth wrt cycles of cooling and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-glaciated, back about 550 million years ago,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before trees and vertebrates evolved.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where virtually no ice sheets existed. Cycles where
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the tropical temperatures extended up into the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> poles.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> throughout Earth's history.  That's why it's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ludicrous to be overly concerned about a degree or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it's even more ludicrous to think we can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "reverse" it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no practical way we can reverse the current cycle:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine, however, it will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing, so to speak.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economy as fragile as it is, we're very energy-dependent,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and we're simply going to have to live with that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> realistically do to lower CO2 output, but compared to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> historical long term climate changes, this is nothing.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> below and sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more coal into the stoker and pull out the clinker and lay
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new fire.  You could tell when it was getting low - the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right away, one of my sisters would yell into my room and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order ol' cinderfeller (me) to get a move on.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have a proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the front of the cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the cars were basically playing Plinko with the reinforced
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> snow banks. I accidentally made the mistake of not plowing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows the night
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -35. Shi%.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excellent.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fwiw, my cousins are easily good enough to take on anything Motts
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canyon or Killebrew Canyon can throw at them. Very good skiers.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make me look like total garbage.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I picked up intermediate skills the first time I went out.  I was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> content with that, and didn't venture out onto the diamond lanes.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember whether it was Heavenly or Mammoth... probably
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mammoth, where there was a gondola that took you up to the edge of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> what looked to me like a fucking cliff.  I watched so many guys
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> take that ride and then just stand at the edge psyching themselves
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> out.  I suspect a fair number of them rode the gondola back down.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah. Totally Agree.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Fwiw, not a total cliff, but a sense of the feeling:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/UptwZ_nkbow?t=80
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mott's Canyon.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Eastern skiing is different:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox6DEBx9MdU
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Can't go all that fast up in the trees but you can bomb the open
> >>>>>>>>>>> part
> >>>>>>>>>>> near the bottom about 60-70 mph so you can get some good air off
> >>>>>>>>>>> the bumps.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> That's putting your balls in the rough... you could easily do a Sonny
> >>>>>>>>>> Bono on that trail.  That WAS a trail... right?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Me and my friends would go up on the mountain in the summer with our
> >>>>>>>>> hatchets and saws to open up some trails so we wouldn't catch a ski
> >>>>>>>>> under a tipped over sapling or in a raspberry swamp and get killed or
> >>>>>>>>> something.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> All "legally"... right?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It's a town mountain.  You could just go up there and do stuff as
> >>>>>>> long as you didn't hurt anything that was protected like trilliums or
> >>>>>>> out of season like trouts and deers, sometimes.  People would pick
> >>>>>>> raspberries and blueberries, go fishing in the lake, shoot deer and
> >>>>>>> mooses and collect firewood from dead trees.  Nobody ever went to
> >>>>>>> jail for doing that because IT WAS LEGAL!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> There was a gay homo faggot prevert in town who owned a
> >>>>>>>>> flower and shrub farm and landscaping business and he would go up
> >>>>>>>>> there
> >>>>>>>>> when he had some free time and run a brush hog around.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> How did the hawg take to that?  Did he squeal like a pig?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It was a Gravely.  It went puttputtputt.  Like this but without the
> >>>>>>> trailer seat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihCEXpgaX6I
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sometimes we'd
> >>>>>>>>> stand around gabbing with him when it was hot and we needed to cool
> >>>>>>>>> off.
> >>>>>>>>> He never molested any of us.  I think the rumors weren't accurate.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Were you disappointed?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We did even know he was a homo fag gay prevert until we got into high
> >>>>>>> school and that's what some people were saying.  Maybe it's because
> >>>>>>> had a huge nice garden you could wander through and decide what
> >>>>>>> plants you wanted and get landscaping ideas.  Some people would just
> >>>>>>> go there to admire it.  Normal people don't have gardens like that,
> >>>>>>> presumably.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If you don't like trees, there are some treeless places to ski:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM7YknhIKeU
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Most of the Left Coast ski runs are pretty wide, with mogul fields and
> >>>>>>>> stuff.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> One time... at Band Camp, I was skiing and came upon a big pinnacle on
> >>>>>>>> the path, with a smaller trail going around it.  I decided to take the
> >>>>>>>> road less traveled, and as soon as I got around it, there was a lot of
> >>>>>>>> crusty ice.  I went into it kinda fast, but started the careful process
> >>>>>>>> of slowing down, lest I end up taking a dump.  Then I see four of the
> >>>>>>>> stupidest, most retarded girls, who obviously knew nothing about
> >>>>>>>> skiing,
> >>>>>>>> and they're standing four abreast (or would that be eight abreast?) and
> >>>>>>>> they're HOLDING HANDS!  They're all trying to "walk" in their skis, and
> >>>>>>>> I've got no way around them, and not enough time to get myself slowed
> >>>>>>>> down on all that ice, so I did the only thing I could do... I dumped it
> >>>>>>>> to keep from taking those dumb bitches out like bowling pins.  I fucked
> >>>>>>>> up my right shoulder real good.  So good, in fact, it was at least
> >>>>>>>> three
> >>>>>>>> years before I could raise my right arm above shoulder height.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I kept my edges sharp so I could ski on ice - sometimes that's all
> >>>>>>> you'd have until the sideways guys busted it into corn.  I had a
> >>>>>>> stone that I'd run down the face with a little oil then I'd burnish
> >>>>>>> the edge with a piece of drill rod to put a little hook in it.  If
> >>>>>>> there wasn't enough edge to work with, I'd go after the sides with
> >>>>>>> some 400 grit wet-or dry on a hard block with soap water until the
> >>>>>>> edge was flush again.  Then I could skate, if that's what was
> >>>>>>> needed.  Worst people crash was going over somebody's loose ski and
> >>>>>>> gouging it up pretty good.  It was a new ski.  Sad.  I tended to do
> >>>>>>> all my hill bombing where the wobblies weren't.  If the first 500ft
> >>>>>>> was at 45 degrees, people would filter themselves out.  Didn't need
> >>>>>>> no damn black diamonds.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> i water ski
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I did that a few times because one of the people near my aunt's camp had
> >>>>> a 50HP Merc and he'd tow you if you asked but nobody in my family had a
> >>>>> power boat because you don't need one for fishing in the lily pads for
> >>>>> pickerel or near the dam for trouts or off the dock for perch and
> >>>>> bluegill.  So water skiing wasn't an easy thing to come by, when I was a
> >>>>> kid.
> >>>>>
> >>>> my brother and i started off with ,
> >>>> towing each other around the lake on ,
> >>>> a piece of poplar underlay and a 10 horse ,
> >>>> we finally got upgraded to a 25 it was big enough for skis ,
> >>>> and we still managed to get in where the walleye are
> >>>
> >>> SURE you did,  You can't even tie your own shoes.  Is your brother
> >>> retarded too?
> >>>
> >> do something about it or tough shit for you punk
> > 
> > I am doing something about it.  I'm fucking up your whole day, and you'll
> > keep coming back for more.
> > 
> you left your dad alone to die

See?  I told you you'd come back for more.  You don't even know who your 
dad was, and your whore of a mother had to slap you around to keep you in 
line because your sperm donor wanted no part of you.  Now you're dying of 
Hep C, AIDS, and a blown-out liver.  The end.

-- 
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#693213

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-08 16:45 -0700
Message-ID<bdqt6s.1sc.17.4@news.alt.net>
In reply to#693211
On 2018-07-08 4:40 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate!  In article <bdqnks.svk.17.14@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
> says...
> 
> 
>>
>> On 2018-07-08 2:12 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>> Checkmate!  In article <bdqjkl.s45.19.7@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>> says...
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2018-07-08 1:57 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <bdqifs.juh.19.1@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-07-08 1:16 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/8/2018 3:37 PM, % wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2018-07-08 11:56 AM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/7/2018 3:50 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>>>>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <phqq0t$gp1$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>>>>>>>>>> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/7/2018 3:54 AM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <phppmi$rnk$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/7/2018 2:42 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 11:35 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phphbm$2d4$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 8:47 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to act soon if we want to protect the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> southernmost continent:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history of Earth wrt cycles of cooling and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-glaciated, back about 550 million years ago,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before trees and vertebrates evolved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where virtually no ice sheets existed. Cycles where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the tropical temperatures extended up into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> poles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> throughout Earth's history.  That's why it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ludicrous to be overly concerned about a degree or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it's even more ludicrous to think we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "reverse" it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no practical way we can reverse the current cycle:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine, however, it will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing, so to speak.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economy as fragile as it is, we're very energy-dependent,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and we're simply going to have to live with that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> realistically do to lower CO2 output, but compared to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> historical long term climate changes, this is nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> below and sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more coal into the stoker and pull out the clinker and lay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new fire.  You could tell when it was getting low - the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right away, one of my sisters would yell into my room and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order ol' cinderfeller (me) to get a move on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have a proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the front of the cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the cars were basically playing Plinko with the reinforced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> snow banks. I accidentally made the mistake of not plowing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows the night
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -35. Shi%.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excellent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fwiw, my cousins are easily good enough to take on anything Motts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canyon or Killebrew Canyon can throw at them. Very good skiers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make me look like total garbage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I picked up intermediate skills the first time I went out.  I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content with that, and didn't venture out onto the diamond lanes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember whether it was Heavenly or Mammoth... probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mammoth, where there was a gondola that took you up to the edge of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what looked to me like a fucking cliff.  I watched so many guys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take that ride and then just stand at the edge psyching themselves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out.  I suspect a fair number of them rode the gondola back down.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah. Totally Agree.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fwiw, not a total cliff, but a sense of the feeling:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/UptwZ_nkbow?t=80
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mott's Canyon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eastern skiing is different:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox6DEBx9MdU
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't go all that fast up in the trees but you can bomb the open
>>>>>>>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>>>>>>>> near the bottom about 60-70 mph so you can get some good air off
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the bumps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's putting your balls in the rough... you could easily do a Sonny
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bono on that trail.  That WAS a trail... right?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Me and my friends would go up on the mountain in the summer with our
>>>>>>>>>>> hatchets and saws to open up some trails so we wouldn't catch a ski
>>>>>>>>>>> under a tipped over sapling or in a raspberry swamp and get killed or
>>>>>>>>>>> something.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All "legally"... right?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's a town mountain.  You could just go up there and do stuff as
>>>>>>>>> long as you didn't hurt anything that was protected like trilliums or
>>>>>>>>> out of season like trouts and deers, sometimes.  People would pick
>>>>>>>>> raspberries and blueberries, go fishing in the lake, shoot deer and
>>>>>>>>> mooses and collect firewood from dead trees.  Nobody ever went to
>>>>>>>>> jail for doing that because IT WAS LEGAL!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There was a gay homo faggot prevert in town who owned a
>>>>>>>>>>> flower and shrub farm and landscaping business and he would go up
>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>> when he had some free time and run a brush hog around.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How did the hawg take to that?  Did he squeal like a pig?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It was a Gravely.  It went puttputtputt.  Like this but without the
>>>>>>>>> trailer seat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihCEXpgaX6I
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes we'd
>>>>>>>>>>> stand around gabbing with him when it was hot and we needed to cool
>>>>>>>>>>> off.
>>>>>>>>>>> He never molested any of us.  I think the rumors weren't accurate.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Were you disappointed?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We did even know he was a homo fag gay prevert until we got into high
>>>>>>>>> school and that's what some people were saying.  Maybe it's because
>>>>>>>>> had a huge nice garden you could wander through and decide what
>>>>>>>>> plants you wanted and get landscaping ideas.  Some people would just
>>>>>>>>> go there to admire it.  Normal people don't have gardens like that,
>>>>>>>>> presumably.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't like trees, there are some treeless places to ski:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM7YknhIKeU
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Most of the Left Coast ski runs are pretty wide, with mogul fields and
>>>>>>>>>> stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> One time... at Band Camp, I was skiing and came upon a big pinnacle on
>>>>>>>>>> the path, with a smaller trail going around it.  I decided to take the
>>>>>>>>>> road less traveled, and as soon as I got around it, there was a lot of
>>>>>>>>>> crusty ice.  I went into it kinda fast, but started the careful process
>>>>>>>>>> of slowing down, lest I end up taking a dump.  Then I see four of the
>>>>>>>>>> stupidest, most retarded girls, who obviously knew nothing about
>>>>>>>>>> skiing,
>>>>>>>>>> and they're standing four abreast (or would that be eight abreast?) and
>>>>>>>>>> they're HOLDING HANDS!  They're all trying to "walk" in their skis, and
>>>>>>>>>> I've got no way around them, and not enough time to get myself slowed
>>>>>>>>>> down on all that ice, so I did the only thing I could do... I dumped it
>>>>>>>>>> to keep from taking those dumb bitches out like bowling pins.  I fucked
>>>>>>>>>> up my right shoulder real good.  So good, in fact, it was at least
>>>>>>>>>> three
>>>>>>>>>> years before I could raise my right arm above shoulder height.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I kept my edges sharp so I could ski on ice - sometimes that's all
>>>>>>>>> you'd have until the sideways guys busted it into corn.  I had a
>>>>>>>>> stone that I'd run down the face with a little oil then I'd burnish
>>>>>>>>> the edge with a piece of drill rod to put a little hook in it.  If
>>>>>>>>> there wasn't enough edge to work with, I'd go after the sides with
>>>>>>>>> some 400 grit wet-or dry on a hard block with soap water until the
>>>>>>>>> edge was flush again.  Then I could skate, if that's what was
>>>>>>>>> needed.  Worst people crash was going over somebody's loose ski and
>>>>>>>>> gouging it up pretty good.  It was a new ski.  Sad.  I tended to do
>>>>>>>>> all my hill bombing where the wobblies weren't.  If the first 500ft
>>>>>>>>> was at 45 degrees, people would filter themselves out.  Didn't need
>>>>>>>>> no damn black diamonds.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i water ski
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did that a few times because one of the people near my aunt's camp had
>>>>>>> a 50HP Merc and he'd tow you if you asked but nobody in my family had a
>>>>>>> power boat because you don't need one for fishing in the lily pads for
>>>>>>> pickerel or near the dam for trouts or off the dock for perch and
>>>>>>> bluegill.  So water skiing wasn't an easy thing to come by, when I was a
>>>>>>> kid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> my brother and i started off with ,
>>>>>> towing each other around the lake on ,
>>>>>> a piece of poplar underlay and a 10 horse ,
>>>>>> we finally got upgraded to a 25 it was big enough for skis ,
>>>>>> and we still managed to get in where the walleye are
>>>>>
>>>>> SURE you did,  You can't even tie your own shoes.  Is your brother
>>>>> retarded too?
>>>>>
>>>> do something about it or tough shit for you punk
>>>
>>> I am doing something about it.  I'm fucking up your whole day, and you'll
>>> keep coming back for more.
>>>
>> you left your dad alone to die
> 
> See?  I told you you'd come back for more.  You don't even know who your
> dad was, and your whore of a mother had to slap you around to keep you in
> line because your sperm donor wanted no part of you.  Now you're dying of
> Hep C, AIDS, and a blown-out liver.  The end.
> 
you haven't even gone to your dad's resting place ,
or did they hide the planet and not tell you where it is ,
uh haw uh haw uh AHHAAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAH , you're nothing , punk

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From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
Date2018-07-15 01:45 -0700
Message-ID<pif1jr$ice$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#692906
On 7/7/2018 12:21 AM, mixed nuts wrote:
> On 7/7/2018 2:42 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> On 7/6/2018 11:35 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phphbm$2d4$2@dont-email.me>, 
>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>> On 7/6/2018 8:47 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>, 
>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>> reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>> <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>, 
>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>> <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>, 
>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to act soon if we want to protect the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> southernmost continent:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> history of Earth wrt cycles of cooling and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> warming periods. I think it had lush forests, filled with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all sorts of exotic life forms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> non-glaciated, back about 550 million years ago,
>>>>>>>>>>>> before trees and vertebrates evolved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history
>>>>>>>>>>> where virtually no ice sheets existed. Cycles where
>>>>>>>>>>> the tropical temperatures extended up into the
>>>>>>>>>>> poles.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other
>>>>>>>>>> throughout Earth's history.  That's why it's
>>>>>>>>>> ludicrous to be overly concerned about a degree or
>>>>>>>>>> two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not,
>>>>>>>>>> and it's even more ludicrous to think we can
>>>>>>>>>> "reverse" it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is
>>>>>>>>> no practical way we can reverse the current cycle:
>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine, however, it will
>>>>>>>>> not be able to stop nature from doing its natural thing, so to 
>>>>>>>>> speak.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the
>>>>>>>> economy as fragile as it is, we're very energy-dependent,
>>>>>>>> and we're simply going to have to live with that.
>>>>>>>> Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage systems 
>>>>>>>> are probably our best bet as to anything we can realistically do 
>>>>>>>> to lower CO2 output, but compared to
>>>>>>>> historical long term climate changes, this is nothing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35
>>>>>>> below and sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel
>>>>>>> more coal into the stoker and pull out the clinker and lay
>>>>>>> a new fire.  You could tell when it was getting low - the
>>>>>>> pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it and
>>>>>>> that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it
>>>>>>> right away, one of my sisters would yell into my room and
>>>>>>> order ol' cinderfeller (me) to get a move on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I
>>>>>>> don't have a proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it
>>>>>> getting around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on
>>>>>> the front of the cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of
>>>>>> the cars were basically playing Plinko with the reinforced
>>>>>> snow banks. I accidentally made the mistake of not plowing
>>>>>> the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows the night
>>>>>> before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after the 
>>>>>> cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to
>>>>>> -35. Shi%.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is
>>>>> excellent.
>>>>
>>>> Fwiw, my cousins are easily good enough to take on anything Motts
>>>> Canyon or Killebrew Canyon can throw at them. Very good skiers.
>>>> Make me look like total garbage.
>>>
>>> I picked up intermediate skills the first time I went out.  I was
>>> content with that, and didn't venture out onto the diamond lanes.
>>> I don't remember whether it was Heavenly or Mammoth... probably
>>> Mammoth, where there was a gondola that took you up to the edge of
>>> what looked to me like a fucking cliff.  I watched so many guys
>>> take that ride and then just stand at the edge psyching themselves
>>> out.  I suspect a fair number of them rode the gondola back down.
>>
>> Yeah. Totally Agree.
>>
>> Fwiw, not a total cliff, but a sense of the feeling:
>>
>> https://youtu.be/UptwZ_nkbow?t=80
>>
>> Mott's Canyon.
> 
> Eastern skiing is different:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox6DEBx9MdU
> 
> Can't go all that fast up in the trees but you can bomb the open part 
> near the bottom about 60-70 mph so you can get some good air off the bumps.
> 

There can be a shit load of trees in west coast, depends on the line one 
decides to take. Mott Canyon again.

https://youtu.be/qTRq2tX8u5o?t=179

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