Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > sci.physics > #691311 > unrolled thread

Why are families separated under Trump but not Obama?

Back to article view | Back to sci.physics

Contents

  Why are families separated under Trump but not Obama? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 21:07 -0400
    Re: Why are families separated under Trump but not Obama? Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-06-19 19:39 -0600
    Re: Why are families separated under Trump but not Obama? Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2018-06-19 18:53 -0700
      Re: Why are families separated under Trump but not Obama? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-20 12:46 -0400
        Re: Why are families separated under Trump but not Obama? Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-21 09:35 +1000
          Re: Why are families separated under Trump but not Obama? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 16:55 -0700
            Re: Why are families separated under Trump but not Obama? Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-21 10:24 +1000
              Re: Why are families separated under Trump but not Obama? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 18:25 -0700
                Re: Why are families separated under Trump but not Obama? Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-21 12:01 +1000
                  Re: Why are families separated under Trump but not Obama? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 20:04 -0700
          Re: Why are families separated under Trump but not Obama? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 10:41 -0700
            Re: Why are families separated under Trump but not Obama? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-06-21 12:55 -0700
            Re: Why are families separated under Trump but not Obama? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-21 16:16 -0700
              Re: Why are families separated under Trump but not Obama? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-21 16:23 -0700
                Re: Why are families separated under Trump but not Obama? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-21 21:36 -0400
                  Re: Why are families separated under Trump but not Obama? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-22 13:58 -0700
            Re: Why are families separated under Trump but not Obama? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 14:23 -0700
              Re: Why are families separated under Trump but not Obama? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-06-22 14:29 -0700
              Re: Why are families separated under Trump but not Obama? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-22 17:47 -0400
      Re: Why are families separated under Trump but not Obama? will <willscranton@butchersboulevard.commypanprofile> - 2018-06-28 01:58 +0000

#691311 — Why are families separated under Trump but not Obama?

I hear your questions! "Since the prisoner policy hasn't changed and is 
the same as it was under Obama, how is Trump policy causing the horror 
of families being separated?"

It's simple really. Trump has instituted a "zero Tolerance" policy 
whereby if they observe someone breaking the law they are required to 
arrest them. This means illegal aliens and drug runners get arrested and 
families get separated until the case is decided.

Under Obama unless the crime involved gun ownership or accidental fires 
set on Federal land, or something, Law enforcement simply sent the 
invaders on their way with a "good luck" and a pat on the back. Hence no 
arrests and no Families being separated even though the policy is the same.

It's simple as that.

[toc] | [next] | [standalone]

#691320

On 6/19/2018 7:07 PM, benj wrote:
> I hear your questions! "Since the prisoner policy hasn't changed and is 
> the same as it was under Obama, how is Trump policy causing the horror 
> of families being separated?"
> 
> It's simple really. Trump has instituted a "zero Tolerance" policy 
> whereby if they observe someone breaking the law they are required to 
> arrest them. This means illegal aliens and drug runners get arrested and 
> families get separated until the case is decided.
> 
> Under Obama unless the crime involved gun ownership or accidental fires 
> set on Federal land, or something, Law enforcement simply sent the 
> invaders on their way with a "good luck" and a pat on the back. Hence no 
> arrests and no Families being separated even though the policy is the same.
> 
> It's simple as that.

In other words, Trump is castigated for taking his oath of
office seriously while Obama was praised for violating his
oath.  Meanwhile, Trump is pushing for immigration reform
and might actually get it this time, unlike all his recent
predecessors.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691321

On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 3:07:45 PM UTC-10, benj wrote:
> I hear your questions! "Since the prisoner policy hasn't changed and is 
> the same as it was under Obama, how is Trump policy causing the horror 
> of families being separated?"
> 
> It's simple really. Trump has instituted a "zero Tolerance" policy 
> whereby if they observe someone breaking the law they are required to 
> arrest them. This means illegal aliens and drug runners get arrested and 
> families get separated until the case is decided.
> 
> Under Obama unless the crime involved gun ownership or accidental fires 
> set on Federal land, or something, Law enforcement simply sent the 
> invaders on their way with a "good luck" and a pat on the back. Hence no 
> arrests and no Families being separated even though the policy is the same.
> 
> It's simple as that.

Trump is a slave to Wras Putin under blackmail
and extortion threats against the Trump family.
Russian sanctions against the USA are being putin 
place by DJ Trump.

Obama followed the Bush orders.
Trump follows Putin's.
He cannot disobey without his folks being severely tortured.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691375

On 6/19/2018 9:53 PM, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 3:07:45 PM UTC-10, benj wrote:
>> I hear your questions! "Since the prisoner policy hasn't changed and is
>> the same as it was under Obama, how is Trump policy causing the horror
>> of families being separated?"
>>
>> It's simple really. Trump has instituted a "zero Tolerance" policy
>> whereby if they observe someone breaking the law they are required to
>> arrest them. This means illegal aliens and drug runners get arrested and
>> families get separated until the case is decided.
>>
>> Under Obama unless the crime involved gun ownership or accidental fires
>> set on Federal land, or something, Law enforcement simply sent the
>> invaders on their way with a "good luck" and a pat on the back. Hence no
>> arrests and no Families being separated even though the policy is the same.
>>
>> It's simple as that.
> 
> Trump is a slave to Wras Putin under blackmail
> and extortion threats against the Trump family.
> Russian sanctions against the USA are being putin
> place by DJ Trump.
> 
> Obama followed the Bush orders.
> Trump follows Putin's.
> He cannot disobey without his folks being severely tortured.
> 
Woooo woooo!

Maybe you need to get your conspiracy theories straight.

There are the power elite who run the world. (You know the CFR, 
Trilaterals, Bilderbergs and so on that promised Hillary the white House 
IF she'd back off and let Obama go first. She did, but they weren't able 
to deliver.

The power elite are never amused when people cross them. Hence we see 
the full force and might of the leftists they control including 
Democrats, media, and entertainment industry as we've all observed. 
Attacks on Trump in full bloom.

Putin, on the other hand has been resisting the elite control and 
plundering of his country. Such resistance also does not amuse them. 
Hence we see all that pressure and propaganda against Russia (Meddling 
in elections? Bwahahaha! USA is THE premier election meddler in the 
world.) So there are sanctions and the controlled press give Putin the 
Trump treatment as well. Geeze, you'd think the left would be kissing 
Putins ass as the leader of their great Utopian experiment?
Just shows you Putin is NOT on their side.

If you are so Stoopid as to actually believe the shit the major legacy 
media feeds you then you DESERVE what is going to happen to you.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691410

On 21/06/2018 2:46 AM, benj wrote:
> On 6/19/2018 9:53 PM, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
>> On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 3:07:45 PM UTC-10, benj wrote:
>>> I hear your questions! "Since the prisoner policy hasn't changed and is
>>> the same as it was under Obama, how is Trump policy causing the horror
>>> of families being separated?"
>>>
>>> It's simple really. Trump has instituted a "zero Tolerance" policy
>>> whereby if they observe someone breaking the law they are required to
>>> arrest them. This means illegal aliens and drug runners get arrested and
>>> families get separated until the case is decided.
>>>
>>> Under Obama unless the crime involved gun ownership or accidental fires
>>> set on Federal land, or something, Law enforcement simply sent the
>>> invaders on their way with a "good luck" and a pat on the back. Hence no
>>> arrests and no Families being separated even though the policy is the 
>>> same.
>>>
>>> It's simple as that.
>>
>> Trump is a slave to Wras Putin under blackmail
>> and extortion threats against the Trump family.
>> Russian sanctions against the USA are being putin
>> place by DJ Trump.
>>
>> Obama followed the Bush orders.
>> Trump follows Putin's.
>> He cannot disobey without his folks being severely tortured.
>>
> Woooo woooo!
> 
> Maybe you need to get your conspiracy theories straight.

**He has.

> 
> There are the power elite who run the world.

**Yep. Just like Putin:

http://time.com/money/4641093/vladimir-putin-net-worth/

Putin is pissed because sanctions are hurting him. Sanctions were made 
against Putin and his buddies, because they are trying to restore the 
USSR and, in the process, enslaving and/or murdering millions of people. 
That Trump supports Putin's murderous ways is obscene.


  (You know the CFR,
> Trilaterals, Bilderbergs and so on that promised Hillary the white House 
> IF she'd back off and let Obama go first. She did, but they weren't able 
> to deliver.

**You need to prove that claim.

> 
> The power elite are never amused when people cross them.

**Indeed. Look at what Trump and Putin do to those who cross them.


  Hence we see
> the full force and might of the leftists they control including 
> Democrats, media, and entertainment industry as we've all observed. 
> Attacks on Trump in full bloom.

**And justifiably. Trump fully supports mass murder by Putin. Trump is 
the enemy of the US. It's sad that many Americans have yet to realise 
this fact.


> 
> Putin, on the other hand has been resisting the elite control and 
> plundering of his country.

**What the fuck are you smoking? You are completely off the rails. Putin 
IS elite control.

http://time.com/money/4641093/vladimir-putin-net-worth/

He and his buddies have been plundering Russia for years.


  Such resistance also does not amuse them.
> Hence we see all that pressure and propaganda against Russia (Meddling 
> in elections?

**The evidence is there for any sane person to see.


  Bwahahaha! USA is THE premier election meddler in the
> world.)

**Well, that much is true.


  So there are sanctions and the controlled press give Putin the
> Trump treatment as well. Geeze, you'd think the left would be kissing 
> Putins ass as the leader of their great Utopian experiment?

**Putin is a vicious dictator and Trump supports his murderous ways.

> Just shows you Putin is NOT on their side.

**Putin is on Putin's side. Trump is merely a useful idiot for Putin to 
achieve his ultimate aims.

> 
> If you are so Stoopid as to actually believe the shit the major legacy 
> media feeds you then you DESERVE what is going to happen to you.


**You really need to speak to your mental health specialist and request 
that he/she alter your meds. Your brain is completely fucked.


-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691411

On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 9:35:32 AM UTC+10, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 21/06/2018 2:46 AM, benj wrote:
> > On 6/19/2018 9:53 PM, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 3:07:45 PM UTC-10, benj wrote:
> >>> I hear your questions! "Since the prisoner policy hasn't changed and is
> >>> the same as it was under Obama, how is Trump policy causing the horror
> >>> of families being separated?"
> >>>
> >>> It's simple really. Trump has instituted a "zero Tolerance" policy
> >>> whereby if they observe someone breaking the law they are required to
> >>> arrest them. This means illegal aliens and drug runners get arrested and
> >>> families get separated until the case is decided.
> >>>
> >>> Under Obama unless the crime involved gun ownership or accidental fires
> >>> set on Federal land, or something, Law enforcement simply sent the
> >>> invaders on their way with a "good luck" and a pat on the back. Hence no
> >>> arrests and no Families being separated even though the policy is the 
> >>> same.
> >>>
> >>> It's simple as that.
> >>
> >> Trump is a slave to Wras Putin under blackmail
> >> and extortion threats against the Trump family.
> >> Russian sanctions against the USA are being putin
> >> place by DJ Trump.
> >>
> >> Obama followed the Bush orders.
> >> Trump follows Putin's.
> >> He cannot disobey without his folks being severely tortured.
> >>
> > Woooo woooo!
> > 
> > Maybe you need to get your conspiracy theories straight.
> 
> **He has.
> 
> > 
> > There are the power elite who run the world.
> 
> **Yep. Just like Putin:
> 
> http://time.com/money/4641093/vladimir-putin-net-worth/
> 
> Putin is pissed because sanctions are hurting him. Sanctions were made 
> against Putin and his buddies, because they are trying to restore the 
> USSR and, in the process, enslaving and/or murdering millions of people. 
> That Trump supports Putin's murderous ways is obscene.

The US prior to Trump enslaved and murdered millions of people. Trump is the best Potus ever. Trump has made peae instead of war with NK. That is very good. Putin is the International Hero of Our Time. He has restored order and dignity to the Russians after the disasters following the fall of the USSR. The world seems to be on the right track at last, with the exit of the Bush2, Blair and Howard entities. 

The unscrupulous murderous types in the US will naturally resent Trump and Putin. They need to grow up, be less vicious and closed in their thinking.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691417

On 21/06/2018 9:55 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 9:35:32 AM UTC+10, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 21/06/2018 2:46 AM, benj wrote:
>>> On 6/19/2018 9:53 PM, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 3:07:45 PM UTC-10, benj wrote:
>>>>> I hear your questions! "Since the prisoner policy hasn't changed and is
>>>>> the same as it was under Obama, how is Trump policy causing the horror
>>>>> of families being separated?"
>>>>>
>>>>> It's simple really. Trump has instituted a "zero Tolerance" policy
>>>>> whereby if they observe someone breaking the law they are required to
>>>>> arrest them. This means illegal aliens and drug runners get arrested and
>>>>> families get separated until the case is decided.
>>>>>
>>>>> Under Obama unless the crime involved gun ownership or accidental fires
>>>>> set on Federal land, or something, Law enforcement simply sent the
>>>>> invaders on their way with a "good luck" and a pat on the back. Hence no
>>>>> arrests and no Families being separated even though the policy is the
>>>>> same.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's simple as that.
>>>>
>>>> Trump is a slave to Wras Putin under blackmail
>>>> and extortion threats against the Trump family.
>>>> Russian sanctions against the USA are being putin
>>>> place by DJ Trump.
>>>>
>>>> Obama followed the Bush orders.
>>>> Trump follows Putin's.
>>>> He cannot disobey without his folks being severely tortured.
>>>>
>>> Woooo woooo!
>>>
>>> Maybe you need to get your conspiracy theories straight.
>>
>> **He has.
>>
>>>
>>> There are the power elite who run the world.
>>
>> **Yep. Just like Putin:
>>
>> http://time.com/money/4641093/vladimir-putin-net-worth/
>>
>> Putin is pissed because sanctions are hurting him. Sanctions were made
>> against Putin and his buddies, because they are trying to restore the
>> USSR and, in the process, enslaving and/or murdering millions of people.
>> That Trump supports Putin's murderous ways is obscene.
> 
> The US prior to Trump enslaved and murdered millions of people.

**Enslaved? Cite (not counting the African slave trade, of course).

  Trump is the best Potus ever.

**In what sense? Be precise in your answer.

  Trump has made peae instead of war with NK.

**No, he hasn't. YOU don't know what concessions have been made by 
Trump. YOU don't know if Kim will eliminate ALL his nukes. YOU know nothing.

  That is very good.

**Well, it MAY be good, if Kim eliminates ALL his nukes. IMO, Kim should 
be locked up for crimes against humanity. Apparently, you don't seem to 
care about his murderous crimes, nor the hundreds of thousands locked in 
gulags. I do.

  Putin is the International Hero of Our Time.

**Well, no, he isn't. He is a murderous dictator.

  He has restored order and dignity to the Russians after the disasters 
following the fall of the USSR.

**Well, perhaps, but at the cost of thousands of civilians' lives.

  The world seems to be on the right track at last, with the exit of the 
Bush2, Blair and Howard entities.

**In what sense? If you think that rewarding vicious dictators and mass 
murderers is a good thing, then you are certifiably insane.


> 
> The unscrupulous murderous types in the US will naturally resent Trump and Putin.

**Let's be real here. Putin is a murderous dictator and Trump is his 
useful idiot.


  They need to grow up, be less vicious and closed in their thinking.

**No. You need to appraise yourself of world events.


-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691421

On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 10:25:07 AM UTC+10, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 21/06/2018 9:55 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 9:35:32 AM UTC+10, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> >> On 21/06/2018 2:46 AM, benj wrote:
> >>> On 6/19/2018 9:53 PM, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> >>>> On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 3:07:45 PM UTC-10, benj wrote:
> >>>>> I hear your questions! "Since the prisoner policy hasn't changed and is
> >>>>> the same as it was under Obama, how is Trump policy causing the horror
> >>>>> of families being separated?"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It's simple really. Trump has instituted a "zero Tolerance" policy
> >>>>> whereby if they observe someone breaking the law they are required to
> >>>>> arrest them. This means illegal aliens and drug runners get arrested and
> >>>>> families get separated until the case is decided.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Under Obama unless the crime involved gun ownership or accidental fires
> >>>>> set on Federal land, or something, Law enforcement simply sent the
> >>>>> invaders on their way with a "good luck" and a pat on the back. Hence no
> >>>>> arrests and no Families being separated even though the policy is the
> >>>>> same.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It's simple as that.
> >>>>
> >>>> Trump is a slave to Wras Putin under blackmail
> >>>> and extortion threats against the Trump family.
> >>>> Russian sanctions against the USA are being putin
> >>>> place by DJ Trump.
> >>>>
> >>>> Obama followed the Bush orders.
> >>>> Trump follows Putin's.
> >>>> He cannot disobey without his folks being severely tortured.
> >>>>
> >>> Woooo woooo!
> >>>
> >>> Maybe you need to get your conspiracy theories straight.
> >>
> >> **He has.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> There are the power elite who run the world.
> >>
> >> **Yep. Just like Putin:
> >>
> >> http://time.com/money/4641093/vladimir-putin-net-worth/
> >>
> >> Putin is pissed because sanctions are hurting him. Sanctions were made
> >> against Putin and his buddies, because they are trying to restore the
> >> USSR and, in the process, enslaving and/or murdering millions of people.
> >> That Trump supports Putin's murderous ways is obscene.
> > 
> > The US prior to Trump enslaved and murdered millions of people.
> 
> **Enslaved? Cite (not counting the African slave trade, of course).

Why not? 
They are enslaved by their own racist and bigoted narrow minds, encased in greed and snobbery, and that makes them do evil things.

>   Trump is the best Potus ever.
> 
> **In what sense? Be precise in your answer.

He is a rich man entering Govt. as a public duty, as opposed to the other opportunists getting rich from Govt.
  He could have enjoyed his vast wealth, but instead works hard to make the US a better place.
That way he shows the true Christian spirit, most welcome and needed today in this gross material age of slime and porn.

>   Trump has made peae instead of war with NK.
> 
> **No, he hasn't. YOU don't know what concessions have been made by 
> Trump. YOU don't know if Kim will eliminate ALL his nukes. YOU know nothing.

What I know is that Trunp has not started war with NK, China etc. to please his oil company masters, and the military-industrial complex, as was done by Bush2 et al.  That is enough for me. The world is a much safer place with Trump and Putin and Xi in charge.
 
>   That is very good.
> 
> **Well, it MAY be good, if Kim eliminates ALL his nukes. IMO, Kim should 
> be locked up for crimes against humanity. Apparently, you don't seem to 
> care about his murderous crimes, nor the hundreds of thousands locked in 
> gulags. I do.

Just as you don't care for all the far greater evils the US has done before Trump. Bush2 has not been locked up, has he? How dare you say what should be done to Kim? 

Whatever Kim does is not my business. Kim's actions are to be judged by his own people, for they do not affect other people far away. What the US does is my business, for the evils the US does make an impact upon me; affects my good health and wealth, safety and public morality. People who abuse and demean others, naturally lie a lot, tell whatever lies that suit their own narrow prejudices and interests. So, their sort cannot be believed about any facts. 
 
>   Putin is the International Hero of Our Time.
> 
> **Well, no, he isn't. He is a murderous dictator.

He is the most popular man in USSR. Gorbachov has been praising him. Just see any youtube video about Putin, and look at the adoring comments about Putin. People in Russia love him. He has stood up to the ISIS, got rid of them in Syria. He has improved the military strength and economy of Russia, after the disasters following the dissolution of the USSR. Trump joined him in the act, unlike the earlier Potus. Good for both of them, that the Middle East is now somewhat more peaceful. From what I see of FIFA, Russia is now is splendid shape. 
> 
>   He has restored order and dignity to the Russians after the disasters 
> following the fall of the USSR.
> 
> **Well, perhaps, but at the cost of thousands of civilians' lives.

No perhaps about it. Putin has lifted millions of his countrymen from poverty and despair, from weakness and inefficiency. The rate of progress in Russia since Putin took over has been stunning. 

>   The world seems to be on the right track at last, with the exit of the 
> Bush2, Blair and Howard entities.
> 
> **In what sense? If you think that rewarding vicious dictators and mass 
> murderers is a good thing, then you are certifiably insane.

You have no moral sense at all as you support Bush2, Blair and Howard, the great modern architects of pure evil for greed. In a world run by evil people, the good are not wanted; so from the evil point of view the good people should be classified as insane and locked up. 

But hope is always there, so we have instead of the nightmare rule of Bush2 et al, the great Putin, the self-sacrificing Trump (a rich man entering the murky world of politics and smashing the vile, corrupt opposition: what a knight, what a sight, what a fight!) and the brilliant engineer Xi to lead us in this century. Long may they live, vive le vive le vive le Trump! Vive le Trumpany! 


> > The unscrupulous murderous types in the US will naturally resent Trump and Putin.
> 
> **Let's be real here. Putin is a murderous dictator and Trump is his 
> useful idiot.

No, reality is that you have no moral sense. So you cannot understand let alone appreciate that the good guys who are against corruption, are back in power in the world today; so the world is a safer, better place. No invasions, no financial disasters - better manners and communications, more prosperity for all.
> 
> 
>   They need to grow up, be less vicious and closed in their thinking.
> 
> **No. You need to appraise yourself of world events.


I do that all the time. Not only that, I go from place to place with my own money, to see what's what for myself, on a purely independent basis. I will be in Russia next month.

Arindam Banerjee
> 
> 
> -- 
> Trevor Wilson
> www.rageaudio.com.au

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691424

On 21/06/2018 11:25 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 10:25:07 AM UTC+10, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 21/06/2018 9:55 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>> On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 9:35:32 AM UTC+10, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 21/06/2018 2:46 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>> On 6/19/2018 9:53 PM, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 3:07:45 PM UTC-10, benj wrote:
>>>>>>> I hear your questions! "Since the prisoner policy hasn't changed and is
>>>>>>> the same as it was under Obama, how is Trump policy causing the horror
>>>>>>> of families being separated?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's simple really. Trump has instituted a "zero Tolerance" policy
>>>>>>> whereby if they observe someone breaking the law they are required to
>>>>>>> arrest them. This means illegal aliens and drug runners get arrested and
>>>>>>> families get separated until the case is decided.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Under Obama unless the crime involved gun ownership or accidental fires
>>>>>>> set on Federal land, or something, Law enforcement simply sent the
>>>>>>> invaders on their way with a "good luck" and a pat on the back. Hence no
>>>>>>> arrests and no Families being separated even though the policy is the
>>>>>>> same.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's simple as that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump is a slave to Wras Putin under blackmail
>>>>>> and extortion threats against the Trump family.
>>>>>> Russian sanctions against the USA are being putin
>>>>>> place by DJ Trump.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obama followed the Bush orders.
>>>>>> Trump follows Putin's.
>>>>>> He cannot disobey without his folks being severely tortured.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Woooo woooo!
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe you need to get your conspiracy theories straight.
>>>>
>>>> **He has.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There are the power elite who run the world.
>>>>
>>>> **Yep. Just like Putin:
>>>>
>>>> http://time.com/money/4641093/vladimir-putin-net-worth/
>>>>
>>>> Putin is pissed because sanctions are hurting him. Sanctions were made
>>>> against Putin and his buddies, because they are trying to restore the
>>>> USSR and, in the process, enslaving and/or murdering millions of people.
>>>> That Trump supports Putin's murderous ways is obscene.
>>>
>>> The US prior to Trump enslaved and murdered millions of people.
>>
>> **Enslaved? Cite (not counting the African slave trade, of course).
> 
> Why not?

**Slavery was abolished in the US more than 150 years ago.

> They are enslaved by their own racist and bigoted narrow minds, encased in greed and snobbery, and that makes them do evil things.
> 
>>    Trump is the best Potus ever.
>>
>> **In what sense? Be precise in your answer.
> 
> He is a rich man entering Govt. as a public duty, as opposed to the other opportunists getting rich from Govt.

**Prove it. Prove that Trump will not benefit financially by becoming 
POTUS.


>    He could have enjoyed his vast wealth,

**"Vast wealth"? Putin has far more wealth than Trump. Trump is worth 
around $3 billion. Certainly not chump change, but a long way from 
Putin, Gates and the others.


  but instead works hard to make the US a better place.

**Bullshit:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/26/how-many-trump-products-were-made-overseas-heres-the-complete-list/?utm_term=.52ce2b6c5b62

If Trump REALLY cared about American workers, then he would have his 
products made by Americans. He doesn't, because he doesn't care. He only 
wants their support and votes and is willing to lie in order to do so.


> That way he shows the true Christian spirit, most welcome and needed today in this gross material age of slime and porn.

**ROTFLMAO!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/donald-trump-sexism-tracker-every-offensive-comment-in-one-place/

https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/the-secular-life/201610/trumps-sexism-is-deeply-biblical

https://www.qt.com.au/news/opinion-no-excuse-for-trumps-sexism/3098426/

Trump is the most un-Christian leader the US has ever seen.

> 
>>    Trump has made peae instead of war with NK.
>>
>> **No, he hasn't. YOU don't know what concessions have been made by
>> Trump. YOU don't know if Kim will eliminate ALL his nukes. YOU know nothing.
> 
> What I know is that Trunp has not started war with NK, China etc.

**So? Nor has any US leader since Truman.


  to please his oil company masters, and the military-industrial 
complex, as was done by Bush2 et al.

**NO argument from me about Dubya.


   That is enough for me. The world is a much safer place with Trump and 
Putin and Xi in charge.

**Prove it.


>   
>>    That is very good.
>>
>> **Well, it MAY be good, if Kim eliminates ALL his nukes. IMO, Kim should
>> be locked up for crimes against humanity. Apparently, you don't seem to
>> care about his murderous crimes, nor the hundreds of thousands locked in
>> gulags. I do.
> 
> Just as you don't care for all the far greater evils the US has done before Trump.

**Prove it.


  Bush2 has not been locked up, has he?

**Strawman. Dubya and most of his administration SHOULD be locked up for 
war crimes.


  How dare you say what should be done to Kim?

**Kim is a mass murderer. Should mass murderers be allowed to roam free?


> 
> Whatever Kim does is not my business.

**Then why do you support Trump's dealings with him?


  Kim's actions are to be judged by his own people, for they do not 
affect other people far away.

**Yes, they do:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea%27s_illicit_activities


  What the US does is my business, for the evils the US does make an 
impact upon me; affects my good health and wealth, safety and public 
morality. People who abuse and demean others, naturally lie a lot, tell 
whatever lies that suit their own narrow prejudices and interests. So, 
their sort cannot be believed about any facts.

**Then why do you support the greatest liar-in-chief, the US has ever seen:

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/


>   
>>    Putin is the International Hero of Our Time.
>>
>> **Well, no, he isn't. He is a murderous dictator.
> 
> He is the most popular man in USSR.

**There is no "USSR". There is Russia and Putin is very popular in Russia.


  Gorbachov has been praising him.

**So what? Putin is STILL a murderous dictator. Democracy is dead in 
Russia. Opponents of Putin are regularly imprisoned and/or murdered. Why 
do you think this is a good thing?

  Just see any youtube video about Putin, and look at the adoring 
comments about Putin.

**I don't give a flying fuck what morons think about Putin, anymore than 
I care what morons think about Trump. Morons praise Trump. Intelligent 
people don't.


  People in Russia love him. He has stood up to the ISIS, got rid of 
them in Syria.

**The Kurds have done more to rout ISIS than any other people have.


  He has improved the military strength and economy of Russia, after the 
disasters following the dissolution of the USSR.

**Why do you think that is a good thing? Are you so dulled by drugs that 
you don't remember the 'Cold War'? I do. It was a terrifying time for 
the entire planet. ISIS was a tiny blip, compared to the havoc wrought 
by the USSR under various leaders. Putin is seeking to bring it all back.


  Trump joined him in the act, unlike the earlier Potus. Good for both 
of them, that the Middle East is now somewhat more peaceful.

**You've got to be kidding. I suggest you visit, Iraq, Syria, Palestine, 
Iran, Saudi Arabia, Libya, Afghanistan Northern Africa sometime.


  From what I see of FIFA, Russia is now is splendid shape.

**Nope. FIFA does not represent Russia. The average MONTHLY income of a 
Russian is US$437.00. Think you can live comfortably on that?

http://blogs.elenasmodels.com/en/average-monthly-income-russia-wages-rosstat/

Most Russians are very poor.

The GDP is Russia is very close to that of my own nation, Australia.
Trouble is, Australia has a population of around 25 million people.
Russia has a population of around 145 million people.

>>
>>    He has restored order and dignity to the Russians after the disasters
>> following the fall of the USSR.
>>
>> **Well, perhaps, but at the cost of thousands of civilians' lives.
> 
> No perhaps about it. Putin has lifted millions of his countrymen from poverty and despair, from weakness and inefficiency. The rate of progress in Russia since Putin took over has been stunning.

**Well, no. That is not true. A tiny number of Russians (including 
Putin) have enjoyed a spectacular rise in their wealth. Most Russians 
have become poorer.

> 
>>    The world seems to be on the right track at last, with the exit of the
>> Bush2, Blair and Howard entities.
>>
>> **In what sense? If you think that rewarding vicious dictators and mass
>> murderers is a good thing, then you are certifiably insane.
> 
> You have no moral sense at all as you support Bush2, Blair and Howard, the great modern architects of pure evil for greed.


**Prove that claim.


  In a world run by evil people, the good are not wanted; so from the 
evil point of view the good people should be classified as insane and 
locked up.

**Why do you think it is good to reward vicious dictators and murderers?


> 
> But hope is always there, so we have instead of the nightmare rule of Bush2 et al, the great Putin, the self-sacrificing Trump (a rich man entering the murky world of politics and smashing the vile, corrupt opposition: what a knight, what a sight, what a fight!) and the brilliant engineer Xi to lead us in this century. Long may they live, vive le vive le vive le Trump! Vive le Trumpany!

**Xi has, indeed, done much for the Chinese economy. Again, at the 
expense of World stability and, in the way of other dictators, at the 
cost of human life.


> 
> 
>>> The unscrupulous murderous types in the US will naturally resent Trump and Putin.
>>
>> **Let's be real here. Putin is a murderous dictator and Trump is his
>> useful idiot.
> 
> No, reality is that you have no moral sense.

**Putin is a murderous dictator:

https://qz.com/862764/heres-a-list-of-abuses-in-vladimir-putins-russia/


  So you cannot understand let alone appreciate that the good guys who 
are against corruption, are back in power in the world today; so the 
world is a safer, better place. No invasions, no financial disasters - 
better manners and communications, more prosperity for all.

**Huh?
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/democracy/reports/2018/06/04/451570/confronting-cost-trumps-corruption-american-families/


>>
>>
>>    They need to grow up, be less vicious and closed in their thinking.
>>
>> **No. You need to appraise yourself of world events.
> 
> 
> I do that all the time. Not only that, I go from place to place with my own money, to see what's what for myself, on a purely independent basis. I will be in Russia next month.
> 

**Then, if you speak to average Russians, make certain you do so in 
secret. Russians are frightened of Putin.


-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691426

On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 12:01:19 PM UTC+10, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 21/06/2018 11:25 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 10:25:07 AM UTC+10, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> >> On 21/06/2018 9:55 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 9:35:32 AM UTC+10, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> >>>> On 21/06/2018 2:46 AM, benj wrote:
> >>>>> On 6/19/2018 9:53 PM, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> >>>>>> On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 3:07:45 PM UTC-10, benj wrote:
> >>>>>>> I hear your questions! "Since the prisoner policy hasn't changed and is
> >>>>>>> the same as it was under Obama, how is Trump policy causing the horror
> >>>>>>> of families being separated?"
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It's simple really. Trump has instituted a "zero Tolerance" policy
> >>>>>>> whereby if they observe someone breaking the law they are required to
> >>>>>>> arrest them. This means illegal aliens and drug runners get arrested and
> >>>>>>> families get separated until the case is decided.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Under Obama unless the crime involved gun ownership or accidental fires
> >>>>>>> set on Federal land, or something, Law enforcement simply sent the
> >>>>>>> invaders on their way with a "good luck" and a pat on the back. Hence no
> >>>>>>> arrests and no Families being separated even though the policy is the
> >>>>>>> same.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It's simple as that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Trump is a slave to Wras Putin under blackmail
> >>>>>> and extortion threats against the Trump family.
> >>>>>> Russian sanctions against the USA are being putin
> >>>>>> place by DJ Trump.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Obama followed the Bush orders.
> >>>>>> Trump follows Putin's.
> >>>>>> He cannot disobey without his folks being severely tortured.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Woooo woooo!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Maybe you need to get your conspiracy theories straight.
> >>>>
> >>>> **He has.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There are the power elite who run the world.
> >>>>
> >>>> **Yep. Just like Putin:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://time.com/money/4641093/vladimir-putin-net-worth/
> >>>>
> >>>> Putin is pissed because sanctions are hurting him. Sanctions were made
> >>>> against Putin and his buddies, because they are trying to restore the
> >>>> USSR and, in the process, enslaving and/or murdering millions of people.
> >>>> That Trump supports Putin's murderous ways is obscene.
> >>>
> >>> The US prior to Trump enslaved and murdered millions of people.
> >>
> >> **Enslaved? Cite (not counting the African slave trade, of course).
> > 
> > Why not?
> 
> **Slavery was abolished in the US more than 150 years ago.
> 
> > They are enslaved by their own racist and bigoted narrow minds, encased in greed and snobbery, and that makes them do evil things.
> > 
> >>    Trump is the best Potus ever.
> >>
> >> **In what sense? Be precise in your answer.
> > 
> > He is a rich man entering Govt. as a public duty, as opposed to the other opportunists getting rich from Govt.
> 
> **Prove it. Prove that Trump will not benefit financially by becoming 
> POTUS.

I don't have to prove anything to you. If you want proof of anything you go find out, don't be lazy and ask me instead.
> 
> 
> >    He could have enjoyed his vast wealth,
> 
> **"Vast wealth"? Putin has far more wealth than Trump. Trump is worth 
> around $3 billion. Certainly not chump change, but a long way from 
> Putin, Gates and the others.


Putin controls wealth, creates wealth, but does not consume or waste wealth as far as I and all can see. Assuming he owns the whole of Russia, so what, every Czar did just that.
> 
> 
>   but instead works hard to make the US a better place.
> 
> **Bullshit:
> 
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/26/how-many-trump-products-were-made-overseas-heres-the-complete-list/?utm_term=.52ce2b6c5b62
> 
> If Trump REALLY cared about American workers, then he would have his 
> products made by Americans. He doesn't, because he doesn't care. He only 
> wants their support and votes and is willing to lie in order to do so.

Whatever internal policies Trump has are not my business. If USAns on the whole are happy with him, they will support him. Seems to me that these days they are highly polarized. My point was that unlike other billionaires Trump cared for the people, so he took the trouble to fight all the nasty battles. Which impresses me.

> 
> 
> > That way he shows the true Christian spirit, most welcome and needed today in this gross material age of slime and porn.
> 
> **ROTFLMAO!
> 
> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/donald-trump-sexism-tracker-every-offensive-comment-in-one-place/
> 
> https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/the-secular-life/201610/trumps-sexism-is-deeply-biblical
> 
> https://www.qt.com.au/news/opinion-no-excuse-for-trumps-sexism/3098426/
> 
> Trump is the most un-Christian leader the US has ever seen.


He is the most Christian in the true Christian sense of self-sacrifice, as opposed to the usual self-forgiving hypocrisies natural to USAns. What a pain it must be, to fight primaries and elections and meet with all sorts of boring people, get abused by the whole media, hated by the academia, loathed by all the top scum... But Trump did it, sacrificed his leisure for public good. 
> 
> > 
> >>    Trump has made peae instead of war with NK.
> >>
> >> **No, he hasn't. YOU don't know what concessions have been made by
> >> Trump. YOU don't know if Kim will eliminate ALL his nukes. YOU know nothing.
> > 
> > What I know is that Trunp has not started war with NK, China etc.
> 
> **So? Nor has any US leader since Truman.

Vietnam and Iraq, in between, notably. The US has a great record for aggression which Trump has avoided at least wrt NK. Yes he has attacked ISIS as promised and that way he has repaired the indulgence shown to them by his predecessor. Directing aggression towards the bad lot, is good for peace. Sometimes he has been showy as in Syria what with cruise missiles blowing up Syrian sites. But he has to take the bloodthirsty nature of the USAns who voted him, in mind, to keep them happy. Fortunately he has not done any worse, which means that he does know the meaning of restraint.
> 
>   to please his oil company masters, and the military-industrial 
> complex, as was done by Bush2 et al.
> 
> **NO argument from me about Dubya.
> 
> 
>    That is enough for me. The world is a much safer place with Trump and 
> Putin and Xi in charge.
> 
> **Prove it.

Far less terrorism, no invasions recently, and thus safer air travel for me.
> 
> 
> >   
> >>    That is very good.
> >>
> >> **Well, it MAY be good, if Kim eliminates ALL his nukes. IMO, Kim should
> >> be locked up for crimes against humanity. Apparently, you don't seem to
> >> care about his murderous crimes, nor the hundreds of thousands locked in
> >> gulags. I do.
> > 
> > Just as you don't care for all the far greater evils the US has done before Trump.
> 
> **Prove it.

Your ignoring of all the great evils the US has done before Trump.
> 
> 
>   Bush2 has not been locked up, has he?
> 
> **Strawman. Dubya and most of his administration SHOULD be locked up for 
> war crimes.

But he hasn't which means that those who say that Kim should be locked up are hypocrites when they do not do anything to lock up their own mass murdering invading former leaders.
> 
> 
>   How dare you say what should be done to Kim?
> 
> **Kim is a mass murderer. Should mass murderers be allowed to roam free?
> 
Whatever Kim is, or what should happen to him, has nothing to do with you or me. It is for his own nation to decide. This is the way nations work. You have no business to interfere in the actions of other sovereign nations, unless they do something to harm you.

> > Whatever Kim does is not my business.
> 
> **Then why do you support Trump's dealings with him?

Because it is not a national affair. It is a global affair. 
 
>   Kim's actions are to be judged by his own people, for they do not 
> affect other people far away.
> 
> **Yes, they do:
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea%27s_illicit_activities
> 
> 
>   What the US does is my business, for the evils the US does make an 
> impact upon me; affects my good health and wealth, safety and public 
> morality. People who abuse and demean others, naturally lie a lot, tell 
> whatever lies that suit their own narrow prejudices and interests. So, 
> their sort cannot be believed about any facts.
> 
> **Then why do you support the greatest liar-in-chief, the US has ever seen:

I was talking about YOUR lies, about Kim, Putin, etc. being mass murderers. And your evasion of the evils US did, which too is an even bigger lie. YOU are the liar.

Trump does not need my support, for I am not an USAn. He can manage without my support! I am glad that air travel is safer with Trump and Putin, as terrorism has gone down with these strongmen in charge. So I support them, for I do travel quite a lot.

> 
> http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/
> 
> http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
> 
> 
> >   
> >>    Putin is the International Hero of Our Time.
> >>
> >> **Well, no, he isn't. He is a murderous dictator.
> > 
> > He is the most popular man in USSR.
> 
> **There is no "USSR". There is Russia and Putin is very popular in Russia.


True, but USSR lives in their hearts if not as a political entity. He is popular for very good reasons. A non-Marxist USSR, based upon theism and co-operation and idealism, can be a reality in due course.
> 
> 
>   Gorbachov has been praising him.
> 
> **So what? Putin is STILL a murderous dictator. Democracy is dead in 
> Russia. Opponents of Putin are regularly imprisoned and/or murdered. Why 
> do you think this is a good thing?


Again, there is no reason for me to believe in propaganda from liars. As you yourself say, Putin is very popular so slimy, sleazy, corrupt, treacherous democracy as found in USA and India is pointless in Russia. He is a Czar and that is that. He is a great man doing great things, very rapidly.

> 
>   Just see any youtube video about Putin, and look at the adoring 
> comments about Putin.
> 
> **I don't give a flying fuck what morons think about Putin, anymore than 
> I care what morons think about Trump. Morons praise Trump. Intelligent 
> people don't.

I have found nothing remotely intelligent about you - you are simply making assertions without providing logic or evidence, but bias instead. You cannot even understand that to be popular as Putin you must do something very good to please the public. Since the popularity of Putin is enduring, he must be someone truly wonderful. If Trump gets re-elected, he will be another Putin.
> 
> 
>   People in Russia love him. He has stood up to the ISIS, got rid of 
> them in Syria.
> 
> **The Kurds have done more to rout ISIS than any other people have.


They were there in Obama's time. The Russians beat the hell out of ISIS. They saved the Syrians. US managed to create tons of refugees for Europe, instead.
> 
> 
>   He has improved the military strength and economy of Russia, after the 
> disasters following the dissolution of the USSR.
> 
> **Why do you think that is a good thing? Are you so dulled by drugs that 
> you don't remember the 'Cold War'? I do. It was a terrifying time for 
> the entire planet. ISIS was a tiny blip, compared to the havoc wrought 
> by the USSR under various leaders. Putin is seeking to bring it all back.

You are so stupid that you cannot even follow what I write. I said Putin caused Russia to recover after the pains following the dissolution of USSR. What part of it did you not understand? What go off on the Cold War? Since you are a liar, you are implying that I take drugs. I never took drugs in my life.
> 
> 
>   Trump joined him in the act, unlike the earlier Potus. Good for both 
> of them, that the Middle East is now somewhat more peaceful.
> 
> **You've got to be kidding. I suggest you visit, Iraq, Syria, Palestine, 
> Iran, Saudi Arabia, Libya, Afghanistan Northern Africa sometime.

At least the ISIS are not murdering people at will with no one bothering to help the victims. The US caused all the trouble. But with Trump things are changing slowly. The Taliban is negotiating in Afghanistan, maybe there will be peace there. Syria and Iraq are recovering. Palestine, nothing new. Iran, well, no wars yet. Miracles cannot be expected all the time, but certainly changes have been made, especially with respect to ISIS which Obama indulged.
> 
> 
>   From what I see of FIFA, Russia is now is splendid shape.
> 
> **Nope. FIFA does not represent Russia. The average MONTHLY income of a 
> Russian is US$437.00. Think you can live comfortably on that?

Nobody is comfortable with any income. Point is that under Putin they are not starving, their young women are not resorting to prostitution, they are building sound defences and yet they are hosting FIFA splendidly. 

With much less income, I managed in India for many years quite happily. 

My parents make do easily with US$200 per month, they have their own house and full time live-in maid, and plenty other human help in their old age. I was with them (in India) for a few weeks a month ago. Had a splendid time, eating fresh fish and lobsters, great company, fresh air and good water, plenty of freedom and relaxation.

 
> 
> http://blogs.elenasmodels.com/en/average-monthly-income-russia-wages-rosstat/
> 
> Most Russians are very poor.
> 
> The GDP is Russia is very close to that of my own nation, Australia.
> Trouble is, Australia has a population of around 25 million people.
> Russia has a population of around 145 million people.


I am an Australian too, these days. I have been hounded out of employment, for my cultural background and my unconventional thinking styles that did not suit the bosses; but still can manage with my own savings, thanks to my frugal lifestyle and the fact that our house has been paid off.

No matter what you earn, if you spend less, you live well. As Mr Micawber pointed out, and his message I find most useful.

So if Russians spend less than they earn, they can be happy. Simple economics.
> 
> >>
> >>    He has restored order and dignity to the Russians after the disasters
> >> following the fall of the USSR.
> >>
> >> **Well, perhaps, but at the cost of thousands of civilians' lives.
> > 
> > No perhaps about it. Putin has lifted millions of his countrymen from poverty and despair, from weakness and inefficiency. The rate of progress in Russia since Putin took over has been stunning.
> 
> **Well, no. That is not true. A tiny number of Russians (including 
> Putin) have enjoyed a spectacular rise in their wealth. Most Russians 
> have become poorer.

In which case Gorbachov would not have said that 86% Russians support Putin and in due course 120% will support Putin. Putin may be worth the whole of Russia as the Czar or Stalin - if he distributes it away nicely to everyone's satisfaction he will remain popular.
> 
> > 
> >>    The world seems to be on the right track at last, with the exit of the
> >> Bush2, Blair and Howard entities.
> >>
> >> **In what sense? If you think that rewarding vicious dictators and mass
> >> murderers is a good thing, then you are certifiably insane.
> > 
> > You have no moral sense at all as you support Bush2, Blair and Howard, the great modern architects of pure evil for greed.
> 
> 
> **Prove that claim.


It is self-proven, only morons cannot understand.
> 
> 
>   In a world run by evil people, the good are not wanted; so from the 
> evil point of view the good people should be classified as insane and 
> locked up.
> 
> **Why do you think it is good to reward vicious dictators and murderers?
> 
> 
> > 
> > But hope is always there, so we have instead of the nightmare rule of Bush2 et al, the great Putin, the self-sacrificing Trump (a rich man entering the murky world of politics and smashing the vile, corrupt opposition: what a knight, what a sight, what a fight!) and the brilliant engineer Xi to lead us in this century. Long may they live, vive le vive le vive le Trump! Vive le Trumpany!
> 
> **Xi has, indeed, done much for the Chinese economy. Again, at the 
> expense of World stability and, in the way of other dictators, at the 
> cost of human life.
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> >>> The unscrupulous murderous types in the US will naturally resent Trump and Putin.
> >>
> >> **Let's be real here. Putin is a murderous dictator and Trump is his
> >> useful idiot.
> > 
> > No, reality is that you have no moral sense.
> 
> **Putin is a murderous dictator:
> 
> https://qz.com/862764/heres-a-list-of-abuses-in-vladimir-putins-russia/
> 
> 
>   So you cannot understand let alone appreciate that the good guys who 
> are against corruption, are back in power in the world today; so the 
> world is a safer, better place. No invasions, no financial disasters - 
> better manners and communications, more prosperity for all.
> 
> **Huh?
> https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/democracy/reports/2018/06/04/451570/confronting-cost-trumps-corruption-american-families/
> 
> 
> >>
> >>
> >>    They need to grow up, be less vicious and closed in their thinking.
> >>
> >> **No. You need to appraise yourself of world events.
> > 
> > 
> > I do that all the time. Not only that, I go from place to place with my own money, to see what's what for myself, on a purely independent basis. I will be in Russia next month.
> > 
> 
> **Then, if you speak to average Russians, make certain you do so in 
> secret. Russians are frightened of Putin.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Trevor Wilson
> www.rageaudio.com.au

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691451

On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 4:35:32 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 21/06/2018 2:46 AM, benj wrote:
> > On 6/19/2018 9:53 PM, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 3:07:45 PM UTC-10, benj wrote:
> >>> I hear your questions! "Since the prisoner policy hasn't changed and is
> >>> the same as it was under Obama, how is Trump policy causing the horror
> >>> of families being separated?"
> >>>
> >>> It's simple really. Trump has instituted a "zero Tolerance" policy
> >>> whereby if they observe someone breaking the law they are required to
> >>> arrest them. This means illegal aliens and drug runners get arrested and
> >>> families get separated until the case is decided.
> >>>
> >>> Under Obama unless the crime involved gun ownership or accidental fires
> >>> set on Federal land, or something, Law enforcement simply sent the
> >>> invaders on their way with a "good luck" and a pat on the back. Hence no
> >>> arrests and no Families being separated even though the policy is the 
> >>> same.
> >>>
> >>> It's simple as that.
> >>
> >> Trump is a slave to Wras Putin under blackmail
> >> and extortion threats against the Trump family.
> >> Russian sanctions against the USA are being putin
> >> place by DJ Trump.
> >>
> >> Obama followed the Bush orders.
> >> Trump follows Putin's.
> >> He cannot disobey without his folks being severely tortured.
> >>
> > Woooo woooo!
> > 
> > Maybe you need to get your conspiracy theories straight.
> 
> **He has.
> 
> > 
> > There are the power elite who run the world.
> 
> **Yep. Just like Putin:
> 
> http://time.com/money/4641093/vladimir-putin-net-worth/
> 
> Putin is pissed because sanctions are hurting him. Sanctions were made 
> against Putin and his buddies, because they are trying to restore the 
> USSR and, in the process, enslaving and/or murdering millions of people. 
> That Trump supports Putin's murderous ways is obscene.
> 
> 
>   (You know the CFR,
> > Trilaterals, Bilderbergs and so on that promised Hillary the white House 
> > IF she'd back off and let Obama go first. She did, but they weren't able 
> > to deliver.
> 
> **You need to prove that claim.
> 
> > 
> > The power elite are never amused when people cross them.
> 
> **Indeed. Look at what Trump and Putin do to those who cross them.
> 
> 
>   Hence we see
> > the full force and might of the leftists they control including 
> > Democrats, media, and entertainment industry as we've all observed. 
> > Attacks on Trump in full bloom.
> 
> **And justifiably. Trump fully supports mass murder by Putin. Trump is 
> the enemy of the US. It's sad that many Americans have yet to realise 
> this fact.
> 
> 
> > 
> > Putin, on the other hand has been resisting the elite control and 
> > plundering of his country.
> 
> **What the fuck are you smoking? You are completely off the rails. Putin 
> IS elite control.
> 
> http://time.com/money/4641093/vladimir-putin-net-worth/
> 
> He and his buddies have been plundering Russia for years.
> 
> 
>   Such resistance also does not amuse them.
> > Hence we see all that pressure and propaganda against Russia (Meddling 
> > in elections?
> 
> **The evidence is there for any sane person to see.
> 
> 
>   Bwahahaha! USA is THE premier election meddler in the
> > world.)
> 
> **Well, that much is true.
> 
> 
>   So there are sanctions and the controlled press give Putin the
> > Trump treatment as well. Geeze, you'd think the left would be kissing 
> > Putins ass as the leader of their great Utopian experiment?
> 
> **Putin is a vicious dictator and Trump supports his murderous ways.
> 
> > Just shows you Putin is NOT on their side.
> 
> **Putin is on Putin's side. Trump is merely a useful idiot for Putin to 
> achieve his ultimate aims.
> 
> > 
> > If you are so Stoopid as to actually believe the shit the major legacy 
> > media feeds you then you DESERVE what is going to happen to you.
> 
> 
> **You really need to speak to your mental health specialist and request 
> that he/she alter your meds. Your brain is completely fucked.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Trevor Wilson
> www.rageaudio.com.au

Trump will set up a consintration camp for Mexican children in Texas.He has a heart bigger than his brain.Bert

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691469

"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote
that Bert has a fart bigger than is his brain since
Bert was always a mental cadaver
proven by Bert's daily, idiotic palaver
>

==== See why in  Glazier's Dossier =====

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691488

On 6/21/2018 10:41 AM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 4:35:32 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 21/06/2018 2:46 AM, benj wrote:
>>> On 6/19/2018 9:53 PM, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 3:07:45 PM UTC-10, benj wrote:
>>>>> I hear your questions! "Since the prisoner policy hasn't changed and is
>>>>> the same as it was under Obama, how is Trump policy causing the horror
>>>>> of families being separated?"
>>>>>
>>>>> It's simple really. Trump has instituted a "zero Tolerance" policy
>>>>> whereby if they observe someone breaking the law they are required to
>>>>> arrest them. This means illegal aliens and drug runners get arrested and
>>>>> families get separated until the case is decided.
>>>>>
>>>>> Under Obama unless the crime involved gun ownership or accidental fires
>>>>> set on Federal land, or something, Law enforcement simply sent the
>>>>> invaders on their way with a "good luck" and a pat on the back. Hence no
>>>>> arrests and no Families being separated even though the policy is the
>>>>> same.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's simple as that.
>>>>
>>>> Trump is a slave to Wras Putin under blackmail
>>>> and extortion threats against the Trump family.
>>>> Russian sanctions against the USA are being putin
>>>> place by DJ Trump.
>>>>
>>>> Obama followed the Bush orders.
>>>> Trump follows Putin's.
>>>> He cannot disobey without his folks being severely tortured.
>>>>
>>> Woooo woooo!
>>>
>>> Maybe you need to get your conspiracy theories straight.
>>
>> **He has.
>>
>>>
>>> There are the power elite who run the world.
>>
>> **Yep. Just like Putin:
>>
>> http://time.com/money/4641093/vladimir-putin-net-worth/
>>
>> Putin is pissed because sanctions are hurting him. Sanctions were made
>> against Putin and his buddies, because they are trying to restore the
>> USSR and, in the process, enslaving and/or murdering millions of people.
>> That Trump supports Putin's murderous ways is obscene.
>>
>>
>>    (You know the CFR,
>>> Trilaterals, Bilderbergs and so on that promised Hillary the white House
>>> IF she'd back off and let Obama go first. She did, but they weren't able
>>> to deliver.
>>
>> **You need to prove that claim.
>>
>>>
>>> The power elite are never amused when people cross them.
>>
>> **Indeed. Look at what Trump and Putin do to those who cross them.
>>
>>
>>    Hence we see
>>> the full force and might of the leftists they control including
>>> Democrats, media, and entertainment industry as we've all observed.
>>> Attacks on Trump in full bloom.
>>
>> **And justifiably. Trump fully supports mass murder by Putin. Trump is
>> the enemy of the US. It's sad that many Americans have yet to realise
>> this fact.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Putin, on the other hand has been resisting the elite control and
>>> plundering of his country.
>>
>> **What the fuck are you smoking? You are completely off the rails. Putin
>> IS elite control.
>>
>> http://time.com/money/4641093/vladimir-putin-net-worth/
>>
>> He and his buddies have been plundering Russia for years.
>>
>>
>>    Such resistance also does not amuse them.
>>> Hence we see all that pressure and propaganda against Russia (Meddling
>>> in elections?
>>
>> **The evidence is there for any sane person to see.
>>
>>
>>    Bwahahaha! USA is THE premier election meddler in the
>>> world.)
>>
>> **Well, that much is true.
>>
>>
>>    So there are sanctions and the controlled press give Putin the
>>> Trump treatment as well. Geeze, you'd think the left would be kissing
>>> Putins ass as the leader of their great Utopian experiment?
>>
>> **Putin is a vicious dictator and Trump supports his murderous ways.
>>
>>> Just shows you Putin is NOT on their side.
>>
>> **Putin is on Putin's side. Trump is merely a useful idiot for Putin to
>> achieve his ultimate aims.
>>
>>>
>>> If you are so Stoopid as to actually believe the shit the major legacy
>>> media feeds you then you DESERVE what is going to happen to you.
>>
>>
>> **You really need to speak to your mental health specialist and request
>> that he/she alter your meds. Your brain is completely fucked.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Trevor Wilson
>> www.rageaudio.com.au
> 
> Trump will set up a consintration camp for Mexican children in Texas.He has a heart bigger than his brain.Bert
> 

What about all of the children that get smuggled across by hard core 
drug cartels? Perhaps being in the back of a trunk of a vehicle driven 
by crazy ass criminals just has to be worse than being in a temporary 
detention center in the USA?

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691489

On 6/21/2018 4:16 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 6/21/2018 10:41 AM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>> On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 4:35:32 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 21/06/2018 2:46 AM, benj wrote:
>>>> On 6/19/2018 9:53 PM, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 3:07:45 PM UTC-10, benj wrote:
[...]
> 
> What about all of the children that get smuggled across by hard core 
> drug cartels? Perhaps being in the back of a trunk of a vehicle driven 
> by crazy ass criminals just has to be worse than being in a temporary 
> detention center in the USA?

Also, why not compare these temporary detention center's to a real 
prison in America? Say, San Quentin. What about our homeless! Afaict, if 
you are a US citizen and are homeless... Well, perhaps try to flee to 
Mexico and then try to cross our border illegally? You just might be 
housed and fed, much better than totally homeless. Damn it.

Who gets treated better in the long run, the citizens in San Quentin, or 
people, each with their own history, good and bad... Trying to break 
into a country illegally. Humm...

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691508

On 6/21/2018 7:23 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 6/21/2018 4:16 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> On 6/21/2018 10:41 AM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 4:35:32 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 21/06/2018 2:46 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>> On 6/19/2018 9:53 PM, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 3:07:45 PM UTC-10, benj wrote:
> [...]
>>
>> What about all of the children that get smuggled across by hard core 
>> drug cartels? Perhaps being in the back of a trunk of a vehicle driven 
>> by crazy ass criminals just has to be worse than being in a temporary 
>> detention center in the USA?
> 
> Also, why not compare these temporary detention center's to a real 
> prison in America? Say, San Quentin. What about our homeless! Afaict, if 
> you are a US citizen and are homeless... Well, perhaps try to flee to 
> Mexico and then try to cross our border illegally? You just might be 
> housed and fed, much better than totally homeless. Damn it.
> 
> Who gets treated better in the long run, the citizens in San Quentin, or 
> people, each with their own history, good and bad... Trying to break 
> into a country illegally. Humm...

If you are trying to get an actual conversation out of senile Treebert, 
it ain't gonna happen.

Democrats like Bert love the idea of raping children and torturing small 
animals. That's why he wants the children to be left in the cage with 
the criminals like Obama used to do. Just like Thunderdome.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691577

On 6/21/2018 6:36 PM, benj wrote:
> On 6/21/2018 7:23 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> On 6/21/2018 4:16 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>> On 6/21/2018 10:41 AM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 4:35:32 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 21/06/2018 2:46 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/19/2018 9:53 PM, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 3:07:45 PM UTC-10, benj wrote:
>> [...]
>>>
>>> What about all of the children that get smuggled across by hard core 
>>> drug cartels? Perhaps being in the back of a trunk of a vehicle 
>>> driven by crazy ass criminals just has to be worse than being in a 
>>> temporary detention center in the USA?
>>
>> Also, why not compare these temporary detention center's to a real 
>> prison in America? Say, San Quentin. What about our homeless! Afaict, 
>> if you are a US citizen and are homeless... Well, perhaps try to flee 
>> to Mexico and then try to cross our border illegally? You just might 
>> be housed and fed, much better than totally homeless. Damn it.
>>
>> Who gets treated better in the long run, the citizens in San Quentin, 
>> or people, each with their own history, good and bad... Trying to 
>> break into a country illegally. Humm...
> 
> If you are trying to get an actual conversation out of senile Treebert, 
> it ain't gonna happen.
> 
> Democrats like Bert love the idea of raping children and torturing small 
> animals. That's why he wants the children to be left in the cage with 
> the criminals like Obama used to do. Just like Thunderdome.

Man. That is way to hardcore. However, well, why are they basically 
encouraging more parents to send their children on that very perilous 
journey? They are also encouraging the damn drug dealers as well. This 
is very strange to me. The kids that they care about, go through some 
really terrible things when they try to break in to a country. This 
should be discouraged! Perhaps something like:

https://youtu.be/4EthH8WdmvQ

We cannot encourage kids to take that hyper dangerous path!

I wonder if say, person A has a nice house and a decent fence. Okay... 
Lets say a family B jumps the fence, camps out in the backyard and 
starts demanding food from A. Well, if person A called the authorities, 
would A be labeled a racist if the family B that jumped the fence was of 
a certain nationality?

This is crazy town!

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691588

On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 10:41:13 AM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 4:35:32 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> > On 21/06/2018 2:46 AM, benj wrote:
> > > On 6/19/2018 9:53 PM, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> > >> On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 3:07:45 PM UTC-10, benj wrote:
> > >>> I hear your questions! "Since the prisoner policy hasn't changed and is
> > >>> the same as it was under Obama, how is Trump policy causing the horror
> > >>> of families being separated?"
> > >>>
> > >>> It's simple really. Trump has instituted a "zero Tolerance" policy
> > >>> whereby if they observe someone breaking the law they are required to
> > >>> arrest them. This means illegal aliens and drug runners get arrested and
> > >>> families get separated until the case is decided.
> > >>>
> > >>> Under Obama unless the crime involved gun ownership or accidental fires
> > >>> set on Federal land, or something, Law enforcement simply sent the
> > >>> invaders on their way with a "good luck" and a pat on the back. Hence no
> > >>> arrests and no Families being separated even though the policy is the 
> > >>> same.
> > >>>
> > >>> It's simple as that.
> > >>
> > >> Trump is a slave to Wras Putin under blackmail
> > >> and extortion threats against the Trump family.
> > >> Russian sanctions against the USA are being putin
> > >> place by DJ Trump.
> > >>
> > >> Obama followed the Bush orders.
> > >> Trump follows Putin's.
> > >> He cannot disobey without his folks being severely tortured.
> > >>
> > > Woooo woooo!
> > > 
> > > Maybe you need to get your conspiracy theories straight.
> > 
> > **He has.
> > 
> > > 
> > > There are the power elite who run the world.
> > 
> > **Yep. Just like Putin:
> > 
> > http://time.com/money/4641093/vladimir-putin-net-worth/
> > 
> > Putin is pissed because sanctions are hurting him. Sanctions were made 
> > against Putin and his buddies, because they are trying to restore the 
> > USSR and, in the process, enslaving and/or murdering millions of people. 
> > That Trump supports Putin's murderous ways is obscene.
> > 
> > 
> >   (You know the CFR,
> > > Trilaterals, Bilderbergs and so on that promised Hillary the white House 
> > > IF she'd back off and let Obama go first. She did, but they weren't able 
> > > to deliver.
> > 
> > **You need to prove that claim.
> > 
> > > 
> > > The power elite are never amused when people cross them.
> > 
> > **Indeed. Look at what Trump and Putin do to those who cross them.
> > 
> > 
> >   Hence we see
> > > the full force and might of the leftists they control including 
> > > Democrats, media, and entertainment industry as we've all observed. 
> > > Attacks on Trump in full bloom.
> > 
> > **And justifiably. Trump fully supports mass murder by Putin. Trump is 
> > the enemy of the US. It's sad that many Americans have yet to realise 
> > this fact.
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Putin, on the other hand has been resisting the elite control and 
> > > plundering of his country.
> > 
> > **What the fuck are you smoking? You are completely off the rails. Putin 
> > IS elite control.
> > 
> > http://time.com/money/4641093/vladimir-putin-net-worth/
> > 
> > He and his buddies have been plundering Russia for years.
> > 
> > 
> >   Such resistance also does not amuse them.
> > > Hence we see all that pressure and propaganda against Russia (Meddling 
> > > in elections?
> > 
> > **The evidence is there for any sane person to see.
> > 
> > 
> >   Bwahahaha! USA is THE premier election meddler in the
> > > world.)
> > 
> > **Well, that much is true.
> > 
> > 
> >   So there are sanctions and the controlled press give Putin the
> > > Trump treatment as well. Geeze, you'd think the left would be kissing 
> > > Putins ass as the leader of their great Utopian experiment?
> > 
> > **Putin is a vicious dictator and Trump supports his murderous ways.
> > 
> > > Just shows you Putin is NOT on their side.
> > 
> > **Putin is on Putin's side. Trump is merely a useful idiot for Putin to 
> > achieve his ultimate aims.
> > 
> > > 
> > > If you are so Stoopid as to actually believe the shit the major legacy 
> > > media feeds you then you DESERVE what is going to happen to you.
> > 
> > 
> > **You really need to speak to your mental health specialist and request 
> > that he/she alter your meds. Your brain is completely fucked.
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Trevor Wilson
> > www.rageaudio.com.au
> 
> Trump will set up a consintration camp for Mexican children in Texas.He has a heart bigger than his brain.Bert

GOP has destroyed the meddle class.It made sure the upper 1% would pay no taxes and make more money.Trump shows this reality.Bert

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691590

"_______ ahahahahaha "reber G=emc^2" the Yiddisher
SchweineHUND <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> cranked
himself because...
>
SwineBert read something he posted but SwineBert
does not want others to see {{see items (1), (2) & (3)
below}} ... So Bert quickly morphed & behaved like a
dog that tries to bury his OWN shit, by Bert attempting
to cover-up and refusing to EXPLAIN why Bert posted
 the following:
>
(1)
On 07Feb 2015 & on 08Feb2015, when Face-Shitter Glazier wrote:
Harlow Campbell HVAC, Mr.HVAC@gmail.com,
& Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net
& Jacoby Benj, <nobody@gmail.com>:
"I'll be sitting on your faces to take a shit & say: "Open wide".
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
>
(2)
On 06Dec2014, when the Christian-Hater, JewPigBert Glazier
said to "benj" <nobody@gmail.com>:
"Reality is you always post under me for you are an ass kisser.
For Christmas I'll shit on your kisser."
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
"Benj, you can thank me in advance". - TreBert. ... addinng
>
On 03Aug2017:
"benj, you eat shit and your shitty brain is coming out your ears."
>
(3)
On 25Mar2008, Graveyard Vandal Glazier wrote in:
<https://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/3ffe7b2257cf8a9a>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/sci.physics/uYtpFTRnW4k/morPVyJ7_j8J>
"Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And have a good laugh
when it seeps down on your face". --  Bert

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691592

On 6/22/2018 5:23 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 10:41:13 AM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>> On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 4:35:32 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 21/06/2018 2:46 AM, benj wrote:
>>>> On 6/19/2018 9:53 PM, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 3:07:45 PM UTC-10, benj wrote:
>>>>>> I hear your questions! "Since the prisoner policy hasn't changed and is
>>>>>> the same as it was under Obama, how is Trump policy causing the horror
>>>>>> of families being separated?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's simple really. Trump has instituted a "zero Tolerance" policy
>>>>>> whereby if they observe someone breaking the law they are required to
>>>>>> arrest them. This means illegal aliens and drug runners get arrested and
>>>>>> families get separated until the case is decided.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Under Obama unless the crime involved gun ownership or accidental fires
>>>>>> set on Federal land, or something, Law enforcement simply sent the
>>>>>> invaders on their way with a "good luck" and a pat on the back. Hence no
>>>>>> arrests and no Families being separated even though the policy is the
>>>>>> same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's simple as that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump is a slave to Wras Putin under blackmail
>>>>> and extortion threats against the Trump family.
>>>>> Russian sanctions against the USA are being putin
>>>>> place by DJ Trump.
>>>>>
>>>>> Obama followed the Bush orders.
>>>>> Trump follows Putin's.
>>>>> He cannot disobey without his folks being severely tortured.
>>>>>
>>>> Woooo woooo!
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you need to get your conspiracy theories straight.
>>>
>>> **He has.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> There are the power elite who run the world.
>>>
>>> **Yep. Just like Putin:
>>>
>>> http://time.com/money/4641093/vladimir-putin-net-worth/
>>>
>>> Putin is pissed because sanctions are hurting him. Sanctions were made
>>> against Putin and his buddies, because they are trying to restore the
>>> USSR and, in the process, enslaving and/or murdering millions of people.
>>> That Trump supports Putin's murderous ways is obscene.
>>>
>>>
>>>    (You know the CFR,
>>>> Trilaterals, Bilderbergs and so on that promised Hillary the white House
>>>> IF she'd back off and let Obama go first. She did, but they weren't able
>>>> to deliver.
>>>
>>> **You need to prove that claim.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The power elite are never amused when people cross them.
>>>
>>> **Indeed. Look at what Trump and Putin do to those who cross them.
>>>
>>>
>>>    Hence we see
>>>> the full force and might of the leftists they control including
>>>> Democrats, media, and entertainment industry as we've all observed.
>>>> Attacks on Trump in full bloom.
>>>
>>> **And justifiably. Trump fully supports mass murder by Putin. Trump is
>>> the enemy of the US. It's sad that many Americans have yet to realise
>>> this fact.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Putin, on the other hand has been resisting the elite control and
>>>> plundering of his country.
>>>
>>> **What the fuck are you smoking? You are completely off the rails. Putin
>>> IS elite control.
>>>
>>> http://time.com/money/4641093/vladimir-putin-net-worth/
>>>
>>> He and his buddies have been plundering Russia for years.
>>>
>>>
>>>    Such resistance also does not amuse them.
>>>> Hence we see all that pressure and propaganda against Russia (Meddling
>>>> in elections?
>>>
>>> **The evidence is there for any sane person to see.
>>>
>>>
>>>    Bwahahaha! USA is THE premier election meddler in the
>>>> world.)
>>>
>>> **Well, that much is true.
>>>
>>>
>>>    So there are sanctions and the controlled press give Putin the
>>>> Trump treatment as well. Geeze, you'd think the left would be kissing
>>>> Putins ass as the leader of their great Utopian experiment?
>>>
>>> **Putin is a vicious dictator and Trump supports his murderous ways.
>>>
>>>> Just shows you Putin is NOT on their side.
>>>
>>> **Putin is on Putin's side. Trump is merely a useful idiot for Putin to
>>> achieve his ultimate aims.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you are so Stoopid as to actually believe the shit the major legacy
>>>> media feeds you then you DESERVE what is going to happen to you.
>>>
>>>
>>> **You really need to speak to your mental health specialist and request
>>> that he/she alter your meds. Your brain is completely fucked.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Trevor Wilson
>>> www.rageaudio.com.au
>>
>> Trump will set up a consintration camp for Mexican children in Texas.He has a heart bigger than his brain.Bert
> 
> GOP has destroyed the meddle class.It made sure the upper 1% would pay no taxes and make more money.Trump shows this reality.Bert
> 
Bert destroying the "meddle class" is what you lefties dream of. Your 
goal has always been 'smash" the bourgeoisie. You must be cheering that 
the GOPers did it for you. Paradise will only have "workers" and those 
in charge. Since obviously you aren't going to be in charge and 
certainly never work, you had better make sure your barrel boats will 
work well on the ice in the reeducation camps.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#692084

On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 18:53:09 -0700, Alan Folmsbee wrote:

> On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 3:07:45 PM UTC-10, benj wrote:
>> I hear your questions! "Since the prisoner policy hasn't changed and is
>> the same as it was under Obama, how is Trump policy causing the horror
>> of families being separated?"
>> 
>> It's simple really. Trump has instituted a "zero Tolerance" policy
>> whereby if they observe someone breaking the law they are required to
>> arrest them. This means illegal aliens and drug runners get arrested
>> and families get separated until the case is decided.
>> 
>> Under Obama unless the crime involved gun ownership or accidental fires
>> set on Federal land, or something, Law enforcement simply sent the
>> invaders on their way with a "good luck" and a pat on the back. Hence
>> no arrests and no Families being separated even though the policy is
>> the same.
>> 
>> It's simple as that.
> 
> Trump is a slave to Wras Putin under blackmail and extortion threats
> against the Trump family.
> Russian sanctions against the USA are being putin place by DJ Trump.
> 
> Obama followed the Bush orders.
> Trump follows Putin's.
> He cannot disobey without his folks being severely tortured.

Wettbakkk invader families are separated  ... because that's the way 
Trump supporters want it ! Actually I prefer to see them butchered-out at 
the border.

[toc] | [prev] | [standalone]

Back to top | Article view | sci.physics

csiph-web