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Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs.

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  Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-11-30 17:01 -0800
    Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-12-01 13:53 +0000
      Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 14:58 -0800
        Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-12-01 16:30 -0800
          Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-12-02 13:19 +0000
            Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-12-02 07:54 -0800
        Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-12-01 20:31 -0500
          Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-12-02 11:23 -0800
            Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-12-02 19:49 +0000
              Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs. Julian Alewine <lliian@lliianenpo.org> - 2016-12-02 20:20 +0000
                Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs. Julian Alewine <lliian@lliianenpo.org> - 2016-12-02 20:46 +0000
              Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-12-02 12:31 -0800
                Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-12-02 20:49 +0000
                  Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-12-03 11:06 -0800
                  Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs. noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-12-04 09:39 -0800
                Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs. Yuri Kreaton <invlaid@invalid.com> - 2016-12-02 18:06 -0600
                  Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-12-02 19:46 -0500
        Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-12-02 13:19 +0000

#607290 — Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs.

From"nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-30 17:01 -0800
SubjectRe: Eliminating Bed Bugs.
Message-ID<9b9067b1-3785-446d-a4eb-6d23d3ab3c2e@googlegroups.com>
On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 3:02:12 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs.

(poison snipped)

  You are still an idiot.

  Look into the physics of how food-grade diatomaceous earth kills any insect yet is harmless to mammals (if not inhaled). It's also much cheaper and ecologically totally safe.


  Mark L. Fergerson

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#607323

Fromjmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Date2016-12-01 13:53 +0000
Message-ID<PM0005429928F27B44@aca40d42.ipt.aol.com>
In reply to#607290
nuny@bid.nes wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 3:02:12 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>> Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs.
>
> (poison snipped)
>
>   You are still an idiot.
>
>   Look into the physics of how food-grade diatomaceous earth kills any
insect yet is harmless to mammals (if not inhaled). It's also much cheaper and
ecologically totally safe.

I think there's more around because of the fad created to use only
cold water for washing clothes.  Washing bedding in hot water is a
good thing.

/BAH

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#607463

From"nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-01 14:58 -0800
Message-ID<73389d4f-91be-4fe7-be4a-d09fdad4d60a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#607323
On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 5:50:41 AM UTC-8, jmfbahciv wrote:
> nuny@bid.nes wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 3:02:12 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> >> Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs.
> >
> > (poison snipped)
> >
> >   You are still an idiot.
> >
> >   Look into the physics of how food-grade diatomaceous earth kills any
> > insect yet is harmless to mammals (if not inhaled). It's also much cheaper
> > and ecologically totally safe.
> 
> I think there's more around because of the fad created to use only
> cold water for washing clothes.  Washing bedding in hot water is a
> good thing.

  People used to hang bedsheets to dry in the sun, too. UV kills bedbugs and their eggs really well.

  Try that nowadays and your friendly neighborhood HOA will fine you.


  Mark L. Fergerson

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#607483

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2016-12-01 16:30 -0800
Message-ID<o1qf91$c8n$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#607463
"nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 5:50:41 AM UTC-8, jmfbahciv wrote:
>> nuny@bid.nes wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 3:02:12 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me 
>> > wrote:
>> >> Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs.
>> >
>> > (poison snipped)
>> >
>> >   You are still an idiot.
>> >
>> >   Look into the physics of how food-grade diatomaceous earth kills any
>> > insect yet is harmless to mammals (if not inhaled). It's also much 
>> > cheaper
>> > and ecologically totally safe.
>>
>> I think there's more around because of the fad created to use only
>> cold water for washing clothes.  Washing bedding in hot water is a
>> good thing.
>
>  People used to hang bedsheets to dry in the sun, too. UV kills bedbugs 
> and their eggs really well.
>
>  Try that nowadays and your friendly neighborhood HOA will fine you.
>  Mark L. Fergerson
>
hanson wrote:
ahahahahaha... where are you filthy people
picking up those bugs?... What stinky folks
are you bedding with that you have bed bugs?
You sound like Full Swine Glazier who trained
cockroaches in his bathroom, and "leaned a
lot from, "Big Moe", as he named them.
Thanks for the laughs you cochons.... LOL

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#607521

Fromjmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Date2016-12-02 13:19 +0000
Message-ID<PM000542ACDAC7BEC9@aca41030.ipt.aol.com>
In reply to#607483
hanson wrote:
>
> "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 5:50:41 AM UTC-8, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>> nuny@bid.nes wrote:
>>> > On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 3:02:12 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me
>>> > wrote:
>>> >> Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs.
>>> >
>>> > (poison snipped)
>>> >
>>> >   You are still an idiot.
>>> >
>>> >   Look into the physics of how food-grade diatomaceous earth kills any
>>> > insect yet is harmless to mammals (if not inhaled). It's also much
>>> > cheaper
>>> > and ecologically totally safe.
>>>
>>> I think there's more around because of the fad created to use only
>>> cold water for washing clothes.  Washing bedding in hot water is a
>>> good thing.
>>
>>  People used to hang bedsheets to dry in the sun, too. UV kills bedbugs
>> and their eggs really well.
>>
>>  Try that nowadays and your friendly neighborhood HOA will fine you.
>>  Mark L. Fergerson
>>
> hanson wrote:
> ahahahahaha... where are you filthy people
> picking up those bugs?... What stinky folks
> are you bedding with that you have bed bugs?
> You sound like Full Swine Glazier who trained
> cockroaches in his bathroom, and "leaned a
> lot from, "Big Moe", as he named them.
> Thanks for the laughs you cochons.... LOL

You haven't been paying attention.  There's close to an epidemic
w.r.t. bed bugs.  They've even been found in new mattresses.

What's really weird around here is that the video shown during
the news about a new infestation doesn't show real bed bugs
but some beetles about the size of a ladybug crawling around.


/BAH

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#607535

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2016-12-02 07:54 -0800
Message-ID<o1s5ef$k14$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#607521
Becky /BAH "jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
 > hanson wrote:
>> "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Becky /BAH jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>> Ferger nuny@bid.nes wrote:
>>>> > Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>>> >> Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs.
>>>> >
>>>> > (poison snipped)
>>>> >   You are still an idiot.
>>>> >   Look into the physics of how food-grade diatomaceous earth kills 
>>>> > any
>>>> > insect yet is harmless to mammals (if not inhaled). It's also much
>>>> > cheaper and ecologically totally safe.
>>>>
>>>> I think there's more around because of the fad created to use only
>>>> cold water for washing clothes.  Washing bedding in hot water is a
>>>> good thing.
>>>
>>>  People used to hang bedsheets to dry in the sun, too. UV kills bedbugs
>>> and their eggs really well.
>>>
>>>  Try that nowadays and your friendly neighborhood HOA will fine you.
>>>  Mark L. Fergerson
>>>
>> hanson wrote:
>> ahahahahaha... where are you filthy people
>> picking up those bugs?... What stinky folks
>> are you bedding with that you have bed bugs?
>> You sound like Full Swine Glazier who trained
>> cockroaches in his bathroom, and "leaned a
>> lot from, "Big Moe", as he named them.
>> Thanks for the laughs you cochons.... LOL
>
Becky /BAH wrote:
> You haven't been paying attention.  There's close to an epidemic
> w.r.t. bed bugs.  They've even been found in new mattresses.
>
hanson wrote:
So, bed bugs are in YOUR Beddings. Pity.
There are NONE in any of my homes mattresses. Zero.
>
Becky /BAH wrote:
> What's really weird around here is that the video shown during
> the news about a new infestation doesn't show real bed bugs
> but some beetles about the size of a ladybug crawling around.
>
hanson wrote:
So, yenta you, Relf & Ferger  fell victim to the
FUD mastering of a TV-news Talking Head,
who has to air bad news to keep his/her job?
Thanks for the laughs... ahahahahahanson

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#607497

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2016-12-01 20:31 -0500
Message-ID<5840cee8$0$25188$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#607463
On 12/1/2016 5:58 PM, nuny@bid.nes wrote:
> On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 5:50:41 AM UTC-8, jmfbahciv wrote:
>> nuny@bid.nes wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 3:02:12 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>>> Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs.
>>>
>>> (poison snipped)
>>>
>>>   You are still an idiot.
>>>
>>>   Look into the physics of how food-grade diatomaceous earth kills any
>>> insect yet is harmless to mammals (if not inhaled). It's also much cheaper
>>> and ecologically totally safe.
>>
>> I think there's more around because of the fad created to use only
>> cold water for washing clothes.  Washing bedding in hot water is a
>> good thing.
>
>   People used to hang bedsheets to dry in the sun, too. UV kills bedbugs and their eggs really well.
>
>   Try that nowadays and your friendly neighborhood HOA will fine you.

Yup. Some suburbs around here have strict rules that all clothes hung 
outside must be behind the house and not visible from the street. Same 
goes for all campers and RVS that must be parked behind the house. And 
you thought that YOU owned your own house.

Bedbugs can take heat, however. It takes like 120 degrees to kill them. 
They can also survive below zero temperatures. Most things that kill 
them are contact killers (like isopropyl alcohol or diatomaceous earth) 
so they tend to not be so effective because bugs crawl back into cracks 
and worse like ants follow the same path over and over through a 
minefield. The only really effective safe killer is DDT which is now 
banned. DDT had eliminated bed bugs from the US but now there are major 
infestations in a number of places. I heard that some people in NYC have 
started buying illegal DDT from drug dealers!

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#607561

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2016-12-02 11:23 -0800
Message-ID<162c4e2f-498c-40fb-bb65-fb0cda29082c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#607497
On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 5:31:22 PM UTC-8, benj wrote:
> On 12/1/2016 5:58 PM, nuny@bid.nes wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 5:50:41 AM UTC-8, jmfbahciv wrote:
> >> nuny@bid.nes wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 3:02:12 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> >>>> Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs.
> >>>
> >>> (poison snipped)
> >>>
> >>>   You are still an idiot.
> >>>
> >>>   Look into the physics of how food-grade diatomaceous earth kills any
> >>> insect yet is harmless to mammals (if not inhaled). It's also much cheaper
> >>> and ecologically totally safe.
> >>
> >> I think there's more around because of the fad created to use only
> >> cold water for washing clothes.  Washing bedding in hot water is a
> >> good thing.
> >
> >   People used to hang bedsheets to dry in the sun, too. UV kills bedbugs and their eggs really well.
> >
> >   Try that nowadays and your friendly neighborhood HOA will fine you.
> 
> Yup. Some suburbs around here have strict rules that all clothes hung 
> outside must be behind the house and not visible from the street. Same 
> goes for all campers and RVS that must be parked behind the house. And 
> you thought that YOU owned your own house.
> 
> Bedbugs can take heat, however. It takes like 120 degrees to kill them. 
> They can also survive below zero temperatures. Most things that kill 
> them are contact killers (like isopropyl alcohol or diatomaceous earth) 
> so they tend to not be so effective because bugs crawl back into cracks 
> and worse like ants follow the same path over and over through a 
> minefield. The only really effective safe killer is DDT which is now 
> banned. DDT had eliminated bed bugs from the US but now there are major 
> infestations in a number of places. I heard that some people in NYC have 
> started buying illegal DDT from drug dealers!


Hmmm!  I wonder what DDT is going for on the streets these days?  I wonder.  Could that old can of it that I remember be hidden in one of my boxes of packed away stuff I recovered from my storage locker?

What about Chlordane?

Double-A

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#607566

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-12-02 19:49 +0000
Message-ID<tqv8hd-ev9.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#607561
Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 5:31:22 PM UTC-8, benj wrote:
>> On 12/1/2016 5:58 PM, nuny@bid.nes wrote:
>> > On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 5:50:41 AM UTC-8, jmfbahciv wrote:
>> >> nuny@bid.nes wrote:
>> >>> On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 3:02:12 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>> >>>> Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs.
>> >>>
>> >>> (poison snipped)
>> >>>
>> >>>   You are still an idiot.
>> >>>
>> >>>   Look into the physics of how food-grade diatomaceous earth kills any
>> >>> insect yet is harmless to mammals (if not inhaled). It's also much cheaper
>> >>> and ecologically totally safe.
>> >>
>> >> I think there's more around because of the fad created to use only
>> >> cold water for washing clothes.  Washing bedding in hot water is a
>> >> good thing.
>> >
>> >   People used to hang bedsheets to dry in the sun, too. UV kills bedbugs and their eggs really well.
>> >
>> >   Try that nowadays and your friendly neighborhood HOA will fine you.
>> 
>> Yup. Some suburbs around here have strict rules that all clothes hung 
>> outside must be behind the house and not visible from the street. Same 
>> goes for all campers and RVS that must be parked behind the house. And 
>> you thought that YOU owned your own house.
>> 
>> Bedbugs can take heat, however. It takes like 120 degrees to kill them. 
>> They can also survive below zero temperatures. Most things that kill 
>> them are contact killers (like isopropyl alcohol or diatomaceous earth) 
>> so they tend to not be so effective because bugs crawl back into cracks 
>> and worse like ants follow the same path over and over through a 
>> minefield. The only really effective safe killer is DDT which is now 
>> banned. DDT had eliminated bed bugs from the US but now there are major 
>> infestations in a number of places. I heard that some people in NYC have 
>> started buying illegal DDT from drug dealers!
> 
> 
> Hmmm!  I wonder what DDT is going for on the streets these days?  I wonder.  Could that old can of it that I remember be hidden in one of my boxes of packed away stuff I recovered from my storage locker?
> 
> What about Chlordane?
> 
> Double-A

Chlordane is nasty stuff.

I have a friend that fucked himself up with gross misuse of chlordane
and has permanent neurological damage among other problems.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlordane#Health_effects

 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#607571

FromJulian Alewine <lliian@lliianenpo.org>
Date2016-12-02 20:20 +0000
Message-ID<o1sl22$1j97$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#607566
jimp wrote:

> I have a friend that fucked himself up with gross misuse of chlordane
> and has permanent neurological damage among other problems.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlordane#Health_effects

If your bad bugs are not disappearing, simply just by farting in your bed, 
you are weak person. Farts are safe. Mostly organic so to speak.

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#607576

FromJulian Alewine <lliian@lliianenpo.org>
Date2016-12-02 20:46 +0000
Message-ID<o1smk1$1lue$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#607571
Julian Alewine wrote:

> jimp wrote:
> 
>> I have a friend that fucked himself up with gross misuse of chlordane
>> and has permanent neurological damage among other problems.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlordane#Health_effects
> 
> If your bad bugs are not disappearing, simply just by farting in your
> bed, you are weak person. Farts are safe. Mostly organic so to speak.

We have to be very careful. What am I trying to say is, that we have a 
responsibility here. To protect the human conscientiousness. I'm not 
saying to cover things up, and not to disclose the truth. But to ask the 
question, who will benefit from that kind of Machiavean, Good and Bad 
Alienism Paradigm? And from the daemonisation of one group and exaltation 
of another ET group? Wouldn't that bring us to same dynamics here on 
Earth, that got us to the brink of Armageddon? 

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#607573

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2016-12-02 12:31 -0800
Message-ID<2fdaa01d-2b84-463a-9a45-00111330a6da@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#607566
On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 12:01:06 PM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 5:31:22 PM UTC-8, benj wrote:
> >> On 12/1/2016 5:58 PM, nuny@bid.nes wrote:
> >> > On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 5:50:41 AM UTC-8, jmfbahciv wrote:
> >> >> nuny@bid.nes wrote:
> >> >>> On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 3:02:12 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> >> >>>> Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> (poison snipped)
> >> >>>
> >> >>>   You are still an idiot.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>   Look into the physics of how food-grade diatomaceous earth kills any
> >> >>> insect yet is harmless to mammals (if not inhaled). It's also much cheaper
> >> >>> and ecologically totally safe.
> >> >>
> >> >> I think there's more around because of the fad created to use only
> >> >> cold water for washing clothes.  Washing bedding in hot water is a
> >> >> good thing.
> >> >
> >> >   People used to hang bedsheets to dry in the sun, too. UV kills bedbugs and their eggs really well.
> >> >
> >> >   Try that nowadays and your friendly neighborhood HOA will fine you.
> >> 
> >> Yup. Some suburbs around here have strict rules that all clothes hung 
> >> outside must be behind the house and not visible from the street. Same 
> >> goes for all campers and RVS that must be parked behind the house. And 
> >> you thought that YOU owned your own house.
> >> 
> >> Bedbugs can take heat, however. It takes like 120 degrees to kill them. 
> >> They can also survive below zero temperatures. Most things that kill 
> >> them are contact killers (like isopropyl alcohol or diatomaceous earth) 
> >> so they tend to not be so effective because bugs crawl back into cracks 
> >> and worse like ants follow the same path over and over through a 
> >> minefield. The only really effective safe killer is DDT which is now 
> >> banned. DDT had eliminated bed bugs from the US but now there are major 
> >> infestations in a number of places. I heard that some people in NYC have 
> >> started buying illegal DDT from drug dealers!
> > 
> > 
> > Hmmm!  I wonder what DDT is going for on the streets these days?  I wonder.  Could that old can of it that I remember be hidden in one of my boxes of packed away stuff I recovered from my storage locker?
> > 
> > What about Chlordane?
> > 
> > Double-A
> 
> Chlordane is nasty stuff.
> 
> I have a friend that fucked himself up with gross misuse of chlordane
> and has permanent neurological damage among other problems.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlordane#Health_effects
> 
>  
> 
> -- 
> Jim Pennino


I used chlordane it to kill ants and yellow jackets at our house.  It worked!  I had no ill effects.  

My father's brother got crabs and dusted his privates with DDT!  It worked.  No ill effects.  No Dr. bills.

Double-A

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#607578

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-12-02 20:49 +0000
Message-ID<fc39hd-a9a.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#607573
Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> wrote:
> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 12:01:06 PM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> wrote:
>> > On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 5:31:22 PM UTC-8, benj wrote:
>> >> On 12/1/2016 5:58 PM, nuny@bid.nes wrote:
>> >> > On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 5:50:41 AM UTC-8, jmfbahciv wrote:
>> >> >> nuny@bid.nes wrote:
>> >> >>> On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 3:02:12 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>> >> >>>> Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> (poison snipped)
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>   You are still an idiot.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>   Look into the physics of how food-grade diatomaceous earth kills any
>> >> >>> insect yet is harmless to mammals (if not inhaled). It's also much cheaper
>> >> >>> and ecologically totally safe.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think there's more around because of the fad created to use only
>> >> >> cold water for washing clothes.  Washing bedding in hot water is a
>> >> >> good thing.
>> >> >
>> >> >   People used to hang bedsheets to dry in the sun, too. UV kills bedbugs and their eggs really well.
>> >> >
>> >> >   Try that nowadays and your friendly neighborhood HOA will fine you.
>> >> 
>> >> Yup. Some suburbs around here have strict rules that all clothes hung 
>> >> outside must be behind the house and not visible from the street. Same 
>> >> goes for all campers and RVS that must be parked behind the house. And 
>> >> you thought that YOU owned your own house.
>> >> 
>> >> Bedbugs can take heat, however. It takes like 120 degrees to kill them. 
>> >> They can also survive below zero temperatures. Most things that kill 
>> >> them are contact killers (like isopropyl alcohol or diatomaceous earth) 
>> >> so they tend to not be so effective because bugs crawl back into cracks 
>> >> and worse like ants follow the same path over and over through a 
>> >> minefield. The only really effective safe killer is DDT which is now 
>> >> banned. DDT had eliminated bed bugs from the US but now there are major 
>> >> infestations in a number of places. I heard that some people in NYC have 
>> >> started buying illegal DDT from drug dealers!
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Hmmm!  I wonder what DDT is going for on the streets these days?  I wonder.  Could that old can of it that I remember be hidden in one of my boxes of packed away stuff I recovered from my storage locker?
>> > 
>> > What about Chlordane?
>> > 
>> > Double-A
>> 
>> Chlordane is nasty stuff.
>> 
>> I have a friend that fucked himself up with gross misuse of chlordane
>> and has permanent neurological damage among other problems.
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlordane#Health_effects
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> -- 
>> Jim Pennino
> 
> 
> I used chlordane it to kill ants and yellow jackets at our house.  It
> worked!  I had no ill effects.  

Yeah it works.

His problem was he applied orders of magnitude more than the recommended
dose to the crawl space under his house. Some months later he started
feeling "funny" and blood tests confirmed he had dosed himself both
during the application and with the stuff getting into the living space.

> My father's brother got crabs and dusted his privates with DDT!  It
> worked.  No ill effects.  No Dr. bills.

During WWII the troops were regularly dusted with DDT to control lice
and the spread of typhus. DDT is not nearly as bad as a lot of people
seem to think when properly used.

Some African nations are concidering telling the first world to fuck off
and start producing their own DDT to control malaria.

> Double-A
> 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#607681

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2016-12-03 11:06 -0800
Message-ID<o1v520$qcp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#607578
Jim Pennino <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
> Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> wrote:
>> Jim Pennino jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> wrote:
>>> > Slovaking YApostate benj Jacoby wrote:
>>> >> Ferger nuny@bid.nes wrote:
>>> >> >  Becky BAH/ jmfbahciv wrote:
>>> >> >> Ferger nuny@bid.nes wrote:

>>> >> >>> Jeff-Relf.Me  wrote:
>>> >> >>>> Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs. (poison snipped)
>>> >> >>
>>> >> > Ferger nuny@bid.nes wrote:
>>> >> >>>   You are still an idiot.
>>> >> >>>   Look into the physics of how food-grade
>>> >> >>> diatomaceous earth kills any
>>> >> >>> insect yet is harmless to mammals (if not inhaled).
>>> >> >>>  It's alsomuch cheaper and ecologically totally safe.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >  Becky BAH/ jmfbahciv wrote:
>>> >> >> I think there's more around because of the fad
>>> >> >> created to use only cold water for washing clothes.
>>> >> >> Washing bedding in hot water is a good thing.
>>> >> >
>> Jim Pennino jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> >> >   People used to hang bedsheets to dry in the sun, too.
>>> >> > UV kills bedbugs and their eggs really well.
>>> >> >   Try that nowadays and your friendly neighborhood
>>> >> > HOA will fine you.
>>> >>
>>> > Slovaking YApostate benj Jacoby wrote:
>>> >> Yup. Some suburbs around here have strict rules that
>>> >> all clothes hung outside must be behind the house and
>>> >> not visible from the street. Same goes for all campers
>>> >> and RVS that must be parked behind the house.
>>> >> And you thought that YOU owned your own house.
>>> >>
>>> >> Bedbugs can take heat, however. It takes like 120 degrees
>>> >> to kill them. They can also survive below zero temperatures.
>>> >>Most things that kill them are contact killers (like isopropyl a
>>> >> lcohol or diatomaceous earth)
>>> >> so they tend to not be so effective because bugs crawl
>>> >> back into cracks ad worse like ants follow the same
>>> >> path over and over through a inefield. The only really
>>> >> effective safe killer is DDT which is now anned.
>>> >> DDT had eliminated bed bugs from the US but now
>>> >> there are mjor infestations in a number of places.
>>> >> I heard that some people in NYC ave
>>> >> started buying illegal DDT from drug dealers!
>>> >
>>> > Double-A wrote:
>>> > Hmmm!  I wonder what DDT is going for on the streets these days?  I
>>> > wonder.  Could that old can of it that I remember be hidden in one of
>>> > my boxes of packed away stuff I recovered from my storage locker?
>>> > What about Chlordane?
>>> >
>> Jim Pennino jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> Chlordane is nasty stuff.
>>> I have a friend that fucked himself up with gross misuse of chlordane
>>> and has permanent neurological damage among other problems.
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlordane#Health_effects
>>>
>> Double-A wrote:
>> I used chlordane it to kill ants and yellow jackets at our house.  It
>> worked!  I had no ill effects.
>
Jim Pennino jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Yeah it works.
> His problem was he applied orders of magnitude more than the recommended
> dose to the crawl space under his house. Some months later he started
> feeling "funny" and blood tests confirmed he had dosed himself both
> during the application and with the stuff getting into the living space.
>
>> Double-A wrote:
>> My father's brother got crabs and dusted his privates with DDT!  It
>> worked.  No ill effects.  No Dr. bills.
>> Double-A
>
Jim Pennino jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> During WWII the troops were regularly dusted with DDT to control lice
> and the spread of typhus. DDT is not nearly as bad as a lot of people
> seem to think when properly used.
> Some African nations are concidering telling the first world to fuck off
> and start producing their own DDT to control malaria.
>>
hanson wrote:
Pennino, in his last 2-liner, is correct. The Green Shits (Jill Stein's
predecessors in the EPA) banned DDT blaming it for thin egg
shells of California Condors. The evidence was flimsy & hysterical,
but the Enviro-fanaticism since 1970 dictates that the lives of wild
animals more important then human safety & welfare.
>
Chemistry of Chloro Aromatics:
>
Chlordane  = C10H6Cl8 = almost full chlorinated 2 ring system.
                   T'was used against termites in 30 million US homes
                   but stopped in 1988; was conjectured to be one of the
                   most potent carcinogens & also causing dementia
                   (as in the case of poster Double-A)
DDT         =  C14H9Cl5, = is essentially a combination of mothballs
                   (chlorinated benzene) linked to Dry cleaning fluid
                   (trichloro-ethane) & was the first Insecticide & used
                   in the US till EPA banned it in 1972 for being an 
endocrine
                   disruptor & a human carcinogen... & the bird egg thing
>
Along the same line in Anti-bug warfare there is the cases of /for
____ Formaldehyde CH2O _____.
In the ante-enviro days the best, cheapest and most effective
ways way to disinfect and sterilize (bugs, large, small & their eggs,
 microbes and viri) in any enclosed space, house or room, that had
>
tape-sealed all cracks, was to put a 5 gal bucket (the type Glazier
shits into), on the floor in the middle of the room, and placed
into it a 1 qt of water, a 1 cup  of Wood Alcohol/Methanol,
CH3OH, threw in  a handful of NaHSO4, Sodium Bisulfate, stirred
and sprinkled in a handful of KMnO4, Potassiumpermanganate,
>
& then one quickly left and locked the room & tagged it. The
mix got hot, foamed & released a huge cloud of gaseous CH2O,
Formaldehyde, that penetrated all surfaces and cracks:
>
3 CH3OH  + 2 KMnO4 + 2 NaHSO4 -->          [19 O + 14 H
3 CH2O +  2 MnO2 + 4 H2O + 2 KNaSO4      [19 O + 14 H]

IOW, ~  1 cup of Methanol may yield ~ 35 Gal of CH2O Gas
which with a kill concentration of  ~ 0.001% will sanitize &
sterilize a space the size of two 12x12x12 ft rooms in 24 hrs.
>
24 hrs later the room was re-entered & ventilated with fresh air.
The smell was hospital clean & all once living matter was dead.
>
The problem with this and all other modern fumigation methods
are the remaining corpses, which are  welcome foodstuff for the
next wave of invading bugs... ..... and the war goes on...
....
CH2O was also used EFFECTIVELY in "Formalin" chewing
tablets against the flu, colds, sore throat, etc and it was
standard issue  in the US Pharmacopoeia till ~ 1960.
Dilute Formaldehyde solutions were also used against stinky
feet, toenail fungus and athlete's foot.... like Glazier's... LOL

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#607761

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-04 09:39 -0800
Message-ID<1c94975b-765f-4976-bfc6-c9fc211ae49d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#607578
did you read that on hte larouchie website?

> Some African nations are concidering telling the first world to fuck off
> and start producing their own DDT to control malaria.
> 
> > Double-A
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Jim Pennino

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#607628

FromYuri Kreaton <invlaid@invalid.com>
Date2016-12-02 18:06 -0600
Message-ID<o1t2ap$7tj$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#607573
On 12/2/2016 2:31 PM, Double-A wrote:
> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 12:01:06 PM UTC-8,
> ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>

>>> Hmmm!  I wonder what DDT is going for on the streets these days?
>>> I wonder.  Could that old can of it that I remember be hidden in
>>> one of my boxes of packed away stuff I recovered from my storage
>>> locker?
>>>
>>> What about Chlordane?
>>>
>>> Double-A

>> Chlordane is nasty stuff.
>>
>> I have a friend that fucked himself up with gross misuse of
>> chlordane and has permanent neurological damage among other
>> problems.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlordane#Health_effects
>>
>>

>> -- Jim Pennino
>
>
> I used chlordane it to kill ants and yellow jackets at our house.  It
> worked!  I had no ill effects.
>
> My father's brother got crabs and dusted his privates with DDT!  It
> worked.  No ill effects.  No Dr. bills.
>
> Double-A
>

chlordane does not go away, it stays in the environment, where you
poured it.

for crabs, shave one half, pour gasoline on the other, lite on fire,
then stab the little fuckers as they run into the open space.
[old navy joke]

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#607639

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2016-12-02 19:46 -0500
Message-ID<584215ed$0$53491$c3e8da3$b1356c67@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#607628
On 12/2/2016 7:06 PM, Yuri Kreaton wrote:
> On 12/2/2016 2:31 PM, Double-A wrote:
>> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 12:01:06 PM UTC-8,
>> ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>
>>>> Hmmm!  I wonder what DDT is going for on the streets these days?
>>>> I wonder.  Could that old can of it that I remember be hidden in
>>>> one of my boxes of packed away stuff I recovered from my storage
>>>> locker?
>>>>
>>>> What about Chlordane?
>>>>
>>>> Double-A
>
>>> Chlordane is nasty stuff.
>>>
>>> I have a friend that fucked himself up with gross misuse of
>>> chlordane and has permanent neurological damage among other
>>> problems.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlordane#Health_effects
>>>
>>>
>
>>> -- Jim Pennino
>>
>>
>> I used chlordane it to kill ants and yellow jackets at our house.  It
>> worked!  I had no ill effects.
>>
>> My father's brother got crabs and dusted his privates with DDT!  It
>> worked.  No ill effects.  No Dr. bills.
>>
>> Double-A
>>
>
> chlordane does not go away, it stays in the environment, where you
> poured it.
>
> for crabs, shave one half, pour gasoline on the other, lite on fire,
> then stab the little fuckers as they run into the open space.
> [old navy joke]

Kerosene is one thing that gets bed bugs but it's smelly and leaves oily 
mess over everything. OK on things like metal bed frames though.

Of course the problem with nasty chemicals is that humans won't be 
reasonable with them and just use them to kill things like bed bugs or 
malaria mosquitoes. No, the GOPer Chemical companies soon are spreading 
it around the country by the TON and people are dusting their babies 
with it. Wonder if Tang kills crabs?

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#607522

Fromjmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Date2016-12-02 13:19 +0000
Message-ID<PM000542ACCC60A120@aca41030.ipt.aol.com>
In reply to#607463
nuny@bid.nes wrote:
> On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 5:50:41 AM UTC-8, jmfbahciv wrote:
>> nuny@bid.nes wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 3:02:12 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>> >> Re: Eliminating Bed Bugs.
>> >
>> > (poison snipped)
>> >
>> >   You are still an idiot.
>> >
>> >   Look into the physics of how food-grade diatomaceous earth kills any
>> > insect yet is harmless to mammals (if not inhaled). It's also much
cheaper
>> > and ecologically totally safe.
>>
>> I think there's more around because of the fad created to use only
>> cold water for washing clothes.  Washing bedding in hot water is a
>> good thing.
>
>   People used to hang bedsheets to dry in the sun, too. UV kills bedbugs and
their eggs really well.
>
>   Try that nowadays and your friendly neighborhood HOA will fine you.

Yup.  I figured noone does that anymore so I didn't mention it.

/BAH

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