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Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years

Started by"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
First post2016-01-28 12:42 -0600
Last post2016-01-29 17:34 -0600
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  Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2016-01-28 12:42 -0600
    Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-01-28 11:17 -0800
    Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 03:59 -0600
      Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2016-01-29 10:05 -0500
        Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 07:25 -0800
          Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 07:36 -0800
            Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 12:45 -0500
        Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 17:33 -0600
          Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2016-01-30 10:08 -0500
            Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 08:38 -0800
            Why Chemtrails? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 12:23 -0500
              Re: Why Chemtrails? Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-30 20:01 +0000
                Re: Why Chemtrails? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 00:03 -0500
                  Re: Why Chemtrails? Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-31 09:25 +0000
                    Re: Why Chemtrails? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 02:40 -0800
                      Re: Why Chemtrails? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 10:27 -0500
                      Re: Why Chemtrails? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-31 19:13 +0000
                        Re: Why Chemtrails? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 13:05 -0800
                          Re: Why Chemtrails? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 03:30 -0500
                        Re: Why Chemtrails? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 03:22 -0500
                          Re: Why Chemtrails? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-01 18:35 +0000
                  Re: Why Chemtrails? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 10:44 -0600
                    Re: Why Chemtrails? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 12:19 -0500
                      Re: Why Chemtrails? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 13:32 -0600
                        Re: Why Chemtrails? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 03:25 -0500
                          Re: Why Chemtrails? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 05:02 -0600
                            Re: Why Chemtrails? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-01 18:39 +0000
                              Re: Why Chemtrails? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-02-02 03:31 -0600
                                Re: Why Chemtrails? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-02 19:01 +0000
                                  Re: Why Chemtrails? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-02-02 21:30 -0600
                                    Re: Why Chemtrails? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-03 03:45 +0000
                                      Re: Why Chemtrails? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-02-03 04:32 -0600
                                        Re: Why Chemtrails? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-03 18:45 +0000
                                          Re: Why Chemtrails? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-03 14:59 -0500
                                            Re: Why Chemtrails? BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2016-02-03 15:17 -0500
                                              Re: Why Chemtrails? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-03 20:17 -0500
                                                Re: Why Chemtrails? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-02-04 03:22 -0600
                                                Re: Why Chemtrails? BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2016-02-04 12:39 -0500
                                            Re: Why Chemtrails? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-03 20:23 +0000
                                              Re: Why Chemtrails? noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-02-03 14:56 -0800
                                            Re: Why Chemtrails? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-02-03 18:50 -0600
                            Re: Why Chemtrails? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 14:43 -0500
                              Re: Why Chemtrails? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-02-02 03:29 -0600
                                Re: Why Chemtrails? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-02 15:54 -0500
                                  Re: Why Chemtrails? BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2016-02-02 17:26 -0500
                                    Re: Why Chemtrails? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-03 00:01 -0500
                                      Re: Why Chemtrails? BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2016-02-03 00:41 -0500
                                      Re: Why Chemtrails? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-02-03 04:33 -0600
                                    Re: Why Chemtrails? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-03 04:28 -0800
                                      Re: Why Chemtrails? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-03 13:35 -0500
                                      Re: Why Chemtrails? benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 01:31 -0500
                                        Re: Why Chemtrails? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 03:43 -0800
                                          Re: Why Chemtrails? benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 10:49 -0500
                                            Re: Why Chemtrails? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 08:30 -0800
                                              Re: Why Chemtrails? benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 23:59 -0500
                                                Re: Why Chemtrails? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 23:16 -0800
                                                  Re: Why Chemtrails? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 02:43 -0500
                                            Re: Why Chemtrails? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 08:35 -0800
                                              Re: Why Chemtrails? noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 13:37 -0800
                                  Re: Why Chemtrails? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-02-02 21:30 -0600
              Re: Why Chemtrails? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 15:31 -0600
      Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 12:16 -0500
        Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-29 18:13 +0000
          Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 14:04 -0500
            Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-29 20:57 +0000
            Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 17:35 -0600
          Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 17:34 -0600
            Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-29 23:53 +0000
              Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 17:01 -0800
                Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 18:05 -0800
                  Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 18:10 -0800
                    Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 18:22 -0800
                  Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 03:29 -0500
                  Re: There's no cure, just consequences. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 12:28 -0500
              Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 03:24 -0500
                Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-30 08:59 +0000
                  Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 05:22 -0500
                    Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-30 14:27 +0000
                    Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 08:56 -0600
                Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 03:15 -0600
                  Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 05:26 -0500
                    Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 08:57 -0600
                    Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2016-01-30 10:04 -0500
                      Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 15:32 -0600
              Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 03:13 -0600
                Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 05:25 -0500
                  Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 08:57 -0600
                    Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2016-01-31 09:38 -0500
                      Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 07:08 -0800
                        Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 10:45 -0500
                        Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 12:28 -0500
                      Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 10:41 -0500
                        Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 10:46 -0600
                          Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 12:20 -0500
                            Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 13:32 -0600
                            Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2016-01-31 23:09 -0500
                      Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 10:32 -0600
        Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-01-29 12:27 -0600
          Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 14:20 -0500
            Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 17:35 -0600
            Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2016-01-30 10:06 -0500
              Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 13:25 -0800
        Re: Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 17:34 -0600

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#548819 — Why we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2016-01-28 12:42 -0600
SubjectWhy we know that Chemtrails have been around for 40+ years
Message-ID<q7Sdne7aEoMD_DfLnZ2dnUU7-fednZ2d@giganews.com>
When I was still in High School I remember seeing the trails behind jets 
stay in the air a lot longer than normal and the guy in the following audio 
now knows someone has been spraying the skies for over 40 years in the name 
of geo-engineering and that matches what I noticed many years ago.

Coast to Coast; Michael J. Murphy; Geoengineering and the climate change 
agenda
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7874VBtf7YI

Rocky 

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#548830

Frompnalsing@gmail.com
Date2016-01-28 11:17 -0800
Message-ID<b2ebddc0-1660-4116-bb2a-a0f0a3b0b88f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#548819
On Thursday, January 28, 2016 at 10:44:50 AM UTC-8, Rocky wrote:
> When I was still in High School I remember seeing the trails behind jets 
> stay in the air a lot longer than normal and the guy in the following audio 
> now knows someone has been spraying the skies for over 40 years in the name 
> of geo-engineering and that matches what I noticed many years ago.
> 
> Coast to Coast; Michael J. Murphy; Geoengineering and the climate change 
> agenda
>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7874VBtf7YI
> 
> Rocky

"Coast to Coast" radio... now THERE's a reliable source... NOT!

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#549037

From"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-29 03:59 -0600
Message-ID<uvdmabpmrdumb5vnsrjsfiiv3potodf7jt@4ax.com>
In reply to#548819
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 12:42:36 -0600, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:

>When I was still in High School I remember seeing the trails behind jets 
>stay in the air a lot longer than normal 

     How long is normal? You will, of course, present valid,
verifiable evidence of what constitutes a normal amount of time.

>and the guy in the following audio 
>now knows someone has been spraying the skies for over 40 years in the name 
>of geo-engineering and that matches what I noticed many years ago.
>
>Coast to Coast; Michael J. Murphy; Geoengineering and the climate change 
>agenda
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7874VBtf7YI
>

     They are contrails. They are a normal result of jets flying in
the air.

-- 
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor

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#549086

FromBDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com>
Date2016-01-29 10:05 -0500
Message-ID<MPG.311549d3d327c7c098c4aa@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#549037
In article <uvdmabpmrdumb5vnsrjsfiiv3potodf7jt@4ax.com>, 
compuelf@gmail.com says...
> 
> On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 12:42:36 -0600, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
> 
> >When I was still in High School I remember seeing the trails behind jets 
> >stay in the air a lot longer than normal 
> 
>      How long is normal? You will, of course, present valid,
> verifiable evidence of what constitutes a normal amount of time.

Don't be in a hurry.

> 
> >and the guy in the following audio 
> >now knows someone has been spraying the skies for over 40 years in the name 
> >of geo-engineering and that matches what I noticed many years ago.
> >
> >Coast to Coast; Michael J. Murphy; Geoengineering and the climate change 
> >agenda
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7874VBtf7YI
> >
> 
>      They are contrails. They are a normal result of jets flying in
> the air.

Yes, but the loons don't want to understand that.

-- 
BDK: Head Government Shill, Psychotronic World Dominator. Master of 
Remote Viewing. Level 6 expert in kOOkStudies.
Former FEMA camp activities director. Head Strategic Writer. Former 
Black Helicopter color consultant.

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#549092

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-29 07:25 -0800
Message-ID<f3f75e99-3a80-42e5-9517-f88ee54d631a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#549086
BDK- are you saying that there have never
been cloud-seeding experiments?
Or just never high altitude jet cloud seeders-
only little weeny ones?
Or just never where there were any people 
living below?
Or what are you saying, BDK? Are you
just a blanket "there is nothing behind 
that curtain" kind of guy?

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#549094

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-29 07:36 -0800
Message-ID<8582ac5d-cf97-4ffd-98fd-1c93142b5ada@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#549092
BDK- are you saying that there have never 
been cloud-seeding experiments? 
Or just never high altitude jet cloud seeders- 
only little weeny ones? 
Or just never where there were any people 
living below? 
Or what are you saying, BDK? Are you 
just a blanket "there is nothing behind 
that curtain" kind of guy? 
------------

John is the perfect example of my idea that no kook believes in only ONE kooky thing.

Here john jumps aboard the 'chemtrail' train.

Typical.

John do you also believe in ghosts and ESP like BJ?

(John has been avoiding these questions so I don't expect him to agree with me here. Of course HE knows I'm right)

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#549122

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-29 12:45 -0500
Message-ID<OyNqy.231298$qC2.173912@fx05.iad>
In reply to#549094
On 01/29/2016 10:36 AM, HVAC wrote:
> BDK- are you saying that there have never
> been cloud-seeding experiments?
> Or just never high altitude jet cloud seeders-
> only little weeny ones?
> Or just never where there were any people
> living below?
> Or what are you saying, BDK? Are you
> just a blanket "there is nothing behind
> that curtain" kind of guy?
> ------------
>
> John is the perfect example of my idea that no kook believes in only ONE kooky thing.
>
> Here john jumps aboard the 'chemtrail' train.
>
> Typical.
>
> John do you also believe in ghosts and ESP like BJ?
>
> (John has been avoiding these questions so I don't expect him to agree with me here. Of course HE knows I'm right)

John, chemtrails have had samples taken and been analyzed. They are NOT 
water vapor beyond doubt. But don't expect HVAC to do anything but deny 
that data. He has a political agenda to promote.

(Overlords have said chemtrails are GOOD for you!)

==
I have given numerous references to the scientific work done on ESP, 
Remote viewing and the like with many excellent books easily available 
on Amazon.com. HVAC prefers not to read anything so as to remain 
ignorant. I have referenced a number of Nobel prize-winning scientists 
who have found significant ESP evidence. HVAC who thinks he is the 
“moderator” of an unmoderated newsgroup thinks he's smarter than them. I 
have referenced government projects costing millions verifying ESP 
effects. In spite of FOIA proof, HVAC acts as if they do not exist. I 
have listed PROOF BEYOND DOUBT of a government cover-up of UFO 
information from the government's own documents. HVAC admits nothing.

So everybody, the ONLY thing that anonymous HVAC (whatever that is) has 
going for "him" is the assertion that this or that person "believes" in 
Ghosts, ESP, or the like. That's it. He has ONLY his "superpowers" to 
tell you what another person has in their mind!  No evidence, no records 
of posts, nada. Of course such “superpowers” would be ESP, would they 
not? Science is only about evidence. Religion and pseudoscience is about 
"belief".  HVAC has no science education and knows no science.

So the only question YOU must ask is are you interested in science or 
strategic writer fantasy. Make your choice.

These paragraphs will be repeated every time HVAC accuses someone of 
"believing" in something.

PS. My “superpowers” tell me HVAC is Gay and needs to come out.





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#549260

From"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-29 17:33 -0600
Message-ID<omtnab5dpnmam3mtkubjnbhv7vhi20bucu@4ax.com>
In reply to#549086
On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 10:05:45 -0500, BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com>
wrote:

>In article <uvdmabpmrdumb5vnsrjsfiiv3potodf7jt@4ax.com>, 
>compuelf@gmail.com says...
>> 
>> On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 12:42:36 -0600, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> >When I was still in High School I remember seeing the trails behind jets 
>> >stay in the air a lot longer than normal 
>> 
>>      How long is normal? You will, of course, present valid,
>> verifiable evidence of what constitutes a normal amount of time.
>
>Don't be in a hurry.
>

     I'm not. I am well aware that he will live up to his name of Run
Away Roger. It's an integral part of who and what he is.

>> >and the guy in the following audio 
>> >now knows someone has been spraying the skies for over 40 years in the name 
>> >of geo-engineering and that matches what I noticed many years ago.
>> >
>> >Coast to Coast; Michael J. Murphy; Geoengineering and the climate change 
>> >agenda
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7874VBtf7YI
>> 
>>      They are contrails. They are a normal result of jets flying in
>> the air.
>
>Yes, but the loons don't want to understand that.

     They frequently go out of their way to avoid having to deal with
the truth.

-- 
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor

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#549363

FromBDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com>
Date2016-01-30 10:08 -0500
Message-ID<MPG.31169be339a231cb98c4af@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#549260
In article <omtnab5dpnmam3mtkubjnbhv7vhi20bucu@4ax.com>, 
compuelf@gmail.com says...
> 
> On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 10:05:45 -0500, BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >In article <uvdmabpmrdumb5vnsrjsfiiv3potodf7jt@4ax.com>, 
> >compuelf@gmail.com says...
> >> 
> >> On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 12:42:36 -0600, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >When I was still in High School I remember seeing the trails behind jets 
> >> >stay in the air a lot longer than normal 
> >> 
> >>      How long is normal? You will, of course, present valid,
> >> verifiable evidence of what constitutes a normal amount of time.
> >
> >Don't be in a hurry.
> >
> 
>      I'm not. I am well aware that he will live up to his name of Run
> Away Roger. It's an integral part of who and what he is.
> 
> >> >and the guy in the following audio 
> >> >now knows someone has been spraying the skies for over 40 years in the name 
> >> >of geo-engineering and that matches what I noticed many years ago.
> >> >
> >> >Coast to Coast; Michael J. Murphy; Geoengineering and the climate change 
> >> >agenda
> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7874VBtf7YI
> >> 
> >>      They are contrails. They are a normal result of jets flying in
> >> the air.
> >
> >Yes, but the loons don't want to understand that.
> 
>      They frequently go out of their way to avoid having to deal with
> the truth.

The tap dancing is annoying. I've always hated tap dancing.

-- 
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Remote Viewing. Level 6 expert in kOOkStudies.
Former FEMA camp activities director. Head Strategic Writer. Former 
Black Helicopter color consultant.

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#549393

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-30 08:38 -0800
Message-ID<eb0bb61c-4aaa-4fe4-932b-d7884e725681@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#549363
Inspector Kluso doing the soft shoe
:)

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#549401 — Why Chemtrails?

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-30 12:23 -0500
SubjectWhy Chemtrails?
Message-ID<Ek6ry.169335$K21.157685@fx02.iad>
In reply to#549363
So I have made the statement that Chemtrails have been analyzed and are 
not water vapor. This of course set off all the shills into convulsions 
of calling "kook" and "liar" and all the rest. Doesn't matter if anyone 
believes me. But the big shill response is probably the best proof there 
is that SOMETHING is going on with Chemtrails. But what could it be?

Lets speculate: Distribution of metal particles in the atmosphere over 
cities could be military experiments for the use of weather modification 
as a weapon. Could be, as the military has been interested in weather 
weapons for a long time. History shows that experiments using civilian 
population is not regraded as out of bounds by them. Which means it 
could be tests of biowarfare. Government has been caught spreading 
bacteria around cities as "tests" before. Or perhaps the Ozone problem 
is far worse than we think and the chemtrail materials are to reflect a 
good part of the UV radiation coming through. Makes some sense. 
Governments hate to give out bad news especially when they are to blame 
like the space shuttle chemicals destroying the ozone layer. Or maybe 
it's the same idea but rather with regard to modifying "global warming". 
Could be, but science pretty much shows that "global warming" is a major 
fraud to create a huge energy tax, so it's doubtful that any corrections 
are needed.

As to what I believe is going on? I can't say. As to what YOU believe is 
going on, I could not give a damn. But the shills certainly do. They 
keep demanding "proof" and name-calling. It's their job. If you want 
"proof" then dig in and do your own research. Amazon has plenty of books 
to start. My opinion is the clowns in government are doing FAR more 
destructive OTHER things than just spraying cities with chemicals. And 
they really could use some exposure. Ignore the shills.


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#549416 — Re: Why Chemtrails?

FromTony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com>
Date2016-01-30 20:01 +0000
SubjectRe: Why Chemtrails?
Message-ID<n8j4m4$s8v$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#549401
On 30/01/2016 17:23, benj wrote:
> So I have made the statement that Chemtrails have been analyzed and are
> not water vapor.

Indeed you have.

> This of course set off all the shills into convulsions
> of calling "kook" and "liar" and all the rest.

If you are including me in that group, I must point out that I have not 
called you a liar or a kook.

Hang on, I can't be a 'shill' as I have called you neither.

> Doesn't matter if anyone
> believes me. But the big shill response is probably the best proof there
> is that SOMETHING is going on with Chemtrails. But what could it be?

Do tell me.

>
> Lets speculate:

No harm in that.

> Distribution of metal particles in the atmosphere over
> cities could be military experiments for the use of weather modification
> as a weapon.

That is indeed possible.

> Could be, as the military has been interested in weather
> weapons for a long time. History shows that experiments using civilian
> population is not regraded
I take it you mean regarded.

> as out of bounds by them. Which means it
> could be tests of biowarfare.


> Government has been caught spreading
> bacteria around cities as "tests" before.

I don't recall a provable instance of this.

? Or perhaps the Ozone problem
> is far worse than we think and the chemtrail materials are to reflect a
> good part of the UV radiation coming through. Makes some sense.

That again is possible, but why keep that a secret?

> Governments hate to give out bad news especially when they are to blame
> like the space shuttle chemicals destroying the ozone layer.

I take it you mean the exhaust?

> Or maybe
> it's the same idea but rather with regard to modifying "global warming".

See above.

> Could be, but science pretty much shows that "global warming" is a major
> fraud to create a huge energy tax, so it's doubtful that any corrections
> are needed.

If global warming is not a fact, I think it more likely disagreement in 
the scientific community.]

>
> As to what I believe is going on? I can't say. As to what YOU believe is
> going on, I could not give a damn. But the shills certainly do. They
> keep demanding "proof" and name-calling.

As for myself, I have just requested your evidence, evidence of course 
is not proof.

> It's their job. If you want
> "proof" then dig in and do your own research. Amazon has plenty of books
> to start. My opinion is the clowns in government are doing FAR more
> destructive OTHER things than just spraying cities with chemicals.

Could you tell us what?

> And
> they really could use some exposure. Ignore the shills.
>
>

As I am not a 'shill' & have not worked for a government for at least 30 
years why do you ignore my request(s)?


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#549476 — Re: Why Chemtrails?

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-31 00:03 -0500
SubjectRe: Why Chemtrails?
Message-ID<AAgry.252146$pV5.62314@fx21.iad>
In reply to#549416
On 01/30/2016 03:01 PM, Tony Dragon wrote:
> On 30/01/2016 17:23, benj wrote:
>> So I have made the statement that Chemtrails have been analyzed and are
>> not water vapor.
>
> Indeed you have.
>
>> This of course set off all the shills into convulsions
>> of calling "kook" and "liar" and all the rest.
>
> If you are including me in that group, I must point out that I have not
> called you a liar or a kook.
>
> Hang on, I can't be a 'shill' as I have called you neither.
>
>> Doesn't matter if anyone
>> believes me. But the big shill response is probably the best proof there
>> is that SOMETHING is going on with Chemtrails. But what could it be?
>
> Do tell me.
>
>>
>> Lets speculate:
>
> No harm in that.
>
>> Distribution of metal particles in the atmosphere over
>> cities could be military experiments for the use of weather modification
>> as a weapon.
>
> That is indeed possible.
>
>> Could be, as the military has been interested in weather
>> weapons for a long time. History shows that experiments using civilian
>> population is not regraded
> I take it you mean regarded.
>
>> as out of bounds by them. Which means it
>> could be tests of biowarfare.
>
>
>> Government has been caught spreading
>> bacteria around cities as "tests" before.
>
> I don't recall a provable instance of this.
>
> ? Or perhaps the Ozone problem
>> is far worse than we think and the chemtrail materials are to reflect a
>> good part of the UV radiation coming through. Makes some sense.
>
> That again is possible, but why keep that a secret?
>
>> Governments hate to give out bad news especially when they are to blame
>> like the space shuttle chemicals destroying the ozone layer.
>
> I take it you mean the exhaust?
>
>> Or maybe
>> it's the same idea but rather with regard to modifying "global warming".
>
> See above.
>
>> Could be, but science pretty much shows that "global warming" is a major
>> fraud to create a huge energy tax, so it's doubtful that any corrections
>> are needed.
>
> If global warming is not a fact, I think it more likely disagreement in
> the scientific community.]
>
>>
>> As to what I believe is going on? I can't say. As to what YOU believe is
>> going on, I could not give a damn. But the shills certainly do. They
>> keep demanding "proof" and name-calling.
>
> As for myself, I have just requested your evidence, evidence of course
> is not proof.
>
>> It's their job. If you want
>> "proof" then dig in and do your own research. Amazon has plenty of books
>> to start. My opinion is the clowns in government are doing FAR more
>> destructive OTHER things than just spraying cities with chemicals.
>
> Could you tell us what?
>
>> And
>> they really could use some exposure. Ignore the shills.
>>
>>
>
> As I am not a 'shill' & have not worked for a government for at least 30
> years why do you ignore my request(s)?

Not directly working for a government doesn't mean you are not a shill. 
It's all about spinning facts and discrediting evidence. Why a person 
does this can be for a wide variety of reasons. In fact government make 
an effort NOT to have their employees shill on the internet or elsewhere 
because when they have done this they got caught and there was an uproar.

I know, I know, you never heard of that happening. And why don't I 
provide you with chapter and verse of the "evidence" so you can debunk it?

Sorry. I"m not looking for converts. I'm not preaching gospel. If you 
want evidence it's out there. It's not hard to find. Pretending you need 
help to find it is just not going to work.

You are correct, that you've been quite mild and have not called me a 
kook or suggested I was insane. Others have made up for your 
shortcomings, however.


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#549500 — Re: Why Chemtrails?

FromTony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com>
Date2016-01-31 09:25 +0000
SubjectRe: Why Chemtrails?
Message-ID<n8kjpg$b2e$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#549476
On 31/01/2016 05:03, benj wrote:
> On 01/30/2016 03:01 PM, Tony Dragon wrote:
>> On 30/01/2016 17:23, benj wrote:
>>> So I have made the statement that Chemtrails have been analyzed and are
>>> not water vapor.
>>
>> Indeed you have.
>>
>>> This of course set off all the shills into convulsions
>>> of calling "kook" and "liar" and all the rest.
>>
>> If you are including me in that group, I must point out that I have not
>> called you a liar or a kook.
>>
>> Hang on, I can't be a 'shill' as I have called you neither.
>>
>>> Doesn't matter if anyone
>>> believes me. But the big shill response is probably the best proof there
>>> is that SOMETHING is going on with Chemtrails. But what could it be?
>>
>> Do tell me.
>>
>>>
>>> Lets speculate:
>>
>> No harm in that.
>>
>>> Distribution of metal particles in the atmosphere over
>>> cities could be military experiments for the use of weather modification
>>> as a weapon.
>>
>> That is indeed possible.
>>
>>> Could be, as the military has been interested in weather
>>> weapons for a long time. History shows that experiments using civilian
>>> population is not regraded
>> I take it you mean regarded.
>>
>>> as out of bounds by them. Which means it
>>> could be tests of biowarfare.
>>
>>
>>> Government has been caught spreading
>>> bacteria around cities as "tests" before.
>>
>> I don't recall a provable instance of this.
>>
>> ? Or perhaps the Ozone problem
>>> is far worse than we think and the chemtrail materials are to reflect a
>>> good part of the UV radiation coming through. Makes some sense.
>>
>> That again is possible, but why keep that a secret?
>>
>>> Governments hate to give out bad news especially when they are to blame
>>> like the space shuttle chemicals destroying the ozone layer.
>>
>> I take it you mean the exhaust?
>>
>>> Or maybe
>>> it's the same idea but rather with regard to modifying "global warming".
>>
>> See above.
>>
>>> Could be, but science pretty much shows that "global warming" is a major
>>> fraud to create a huge energy tax, so it's doubtful that any corrections
>>> are needed.
>>
>> If global warming is not a fact, I think it more likely disagreement in
>> the scientific community.]
>>
>>>
>>> As to what I believe is going on? I can't say. As to what YOU believe is
>>> going on, I could not give a damn. But the shills certainly do. They
>>> keep demanding "proof" and name-calling.
>>
>> As for myself, I have just requested your evidence, evidence of course
>> is not proof.
>>
>>> It's their job. If you want
>>> "proof" then dig in and do your own research. Amazon has plenty of books
>>> to start. My opinion is the clowns in government are doing FAR more
>>> destructive OTHER things than just spraying cities with chemicals.
>>
>> Could you tell us what?
>>
>>> And
>>> they really could use some exposure. Ignore the shills.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> As I am not a 'shill' & have not worked for a government for at least 30
>> years why do you ignore my request(s)?
>
> Not directly working for a government doesn't mean you are not a shill.

And you have no evidence that I am.

> It's all about spinning facts and discrediting evidence.

I have not been able to discredit your evidence, you have provided none.

> Why a person
> does this can be for a wide variety of reasons. In fact government make
> an effort NOT to have their employees shill on the internet or elsewhere
> because when they have done this they got caught and there was an uproar.

There might be some truth in that.

>
> I know, I know, you never heard of that happening.

There have been some cases when government employees have done what they 
should not have done on the internet.

> And why don't I
> provide you with chapter and verse of the "evidence" so you can debunk it?

I can't debunk it or believe it if you don't provide it.

>
> Sorry. I"m not looking for converts. I'm not preaching gospel.

So why make the post?

>If you
> want evidence it's out there. It's not hard to find. Pretending you need
> help to find it is just not going to work.

I'm sure you are right, but it was the evidence that made you believe in 
'chemtrails' that I was interested in.

>
> You are correct, that you've been quite mild and have not called me a
> kook or suggested I was insane. Others have made up for your
> shortcomings, however.
>
>

I have no influence on others, they make up their own minds.

As you are going to provide any evidence of your beliefs I shall stop 
posting on this thread.

Have a good day (or night).


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#549501 — Re: Why Chemtrails?

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-31 02:40 -0800
SubjectRe: Why Chemtrails?
Message-ID<ccbca3e4-51f9-4457-af4e-5a2c21a625eb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#549500
Tony Dragon
I'm sure you are right, but it was the evidence that made you believe in 
'chemtrails' that I was interested in. 
-------------

Hey Tony. After BJ provides the evidence for chemtrails, would you ask him why he believes in esp and ghosts as well?

Thanks in advance

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#549526 — Re: Why Chemtrails?

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-31 10:27 -0500
SubjectRe: Why Chemtrails?
Message-ID<KJpry.170238$K21.149104@fx02.iad>
In reply to#549501
On 01/31/2016 05:40 AM, HVAC wrote:
> Tony Dragon
> I'm sure you are right, but it was the evidence that made you believe in
> 'chemtrails' that I was interested in.
> -------------
>
> Hey Tony. After BJ provides the evidence for chemtrails, would you ask him why he believes in esp and ghosts as well?
>
> Thanks in advance

=====

I have given numerous references to the scientific work done on ESP, 
Remote viewing and the like with many excellent books easily available 
on Amazon.com. HVAC prefers not to read anything so as to remain 
ignorant. I have referenced a number of Nobel prize-winning scientists 
who have found significant ESP evidence. HVAC who thinks he is the 
“moderator” of an unmoderated newsgroup thinks he's smarter than them. I 
have referenced government projects costing millions verifying ESP 
effects. In spite of FOIA proof, HVAC acts as if they do not exist. I 
have listed PROOF BEYOND DOUBT of a government cover-up of UFO 
information from the government's own documents. HVAC admits nothing.

So everybody, the ONLY thing that anonymous HVAC (whatever that is) has 
going for "him" is the assertion that this or that person "believes" in 
Ghosts, ESP, or the like. That's it. He has ONLY his "superpowers" to 
tell you what another person has in their mind!  No evidence, no records 
of posts, nada. Of course such “superpowers” would be ESP, would they 
not? Science is only about evidence. Religion and pseudoscience is about 
"belief".  HVAC has no science education and knows no science.

So the only question YOU must ask is are you interested in science or 
strategic writer fantasy. Make your choice.

These paragraphs will be repeated every time HVAC accuses someone of 
"believing" in something.

PS. My “superpowers” tell me HVAC is Gay and needs to come out.


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#549557 — Re: Why Chemtrails?

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-01-31 19:13 +0000
SubjectRe: Why Chemtrails?
Message-ID<dv22oc-kij.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#549501
HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tony Dragon
> I'm sure you are right, but it was the evidence that made you believe in 
> 'chemtrails' that I was interested in. 
> -------------
> 
> Hey Tony. After BJ provides the evidence for chemtrails, would you ask him why he believes in esp and ghosts as well?
> 
> Thanks in advance

I get "chemtrails" off my prop tips on a humid day.

Does this mean some nefarious organization has hidden an evil device
inside my solid aluminum propeller?



-- 
Jim Pennino

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#549584 — Re: Why Chemtrails?

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-31 13:05 -0800
SubjectRe: Why Chemtrails?
Message-ID<df3e7dbf-b2c1-4c9a-a904-cedea99722cf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#549557
 Hey Tony. After BJ provides the evidence for chemtrails, would you ask him why he believes in esp and ghosts as well? 
> 
> Thanks in advance 

I get "chemtrails" off my prop tips on a humid day. 

Does this mean some nefarious organization has hidden an evil device 
inside my solid aluminum propeller? 
----------

I find it an amazing coincidence that the chemtrails are never spread out over the countryside. They're always spraying along heavily used flight paths. 

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#549669 — Re: Why Chemtrails?

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-01 03:30 -0500
SubjectRe: Why Chemtrails?
Message-ID<WIEry.246516$8P4.225758@fx30.iad>
In reply to#549584
On 01/31/2016 04:05 PM, HVAC wrote:
>   Hey Tony. After BJ provides the evidence for chemtrails, would you ask him why he believes in esp and ghosts as well?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>
> I get "chemtrails" off my prop tips on a humid day.
>
> Does this mean some nefarious organization has hidden an evil device
> inside my solid aluminum propeller?
> ----------
>
> I find it an amazing coincidence that the chemtrails are never spread out over the countryside. They're always spraying along heavily used flight paths.

Lie. But since Hatlot said it it must be truth and not disinformation. 
We all know that all chemists are incompetent and just perpetrate hoaxes 
to be famous. But then on the other hand that is made up for by climate 
scientists (especially those working for and funded by gummint) who 
ALWAYS tell the truth and exist only to expose kooks who say that the 
settled science isn't settled. Wormley is right on the money just like 
HVAC. You can take that to the bank!

So transparent!

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#549666 — Re: Why Chemtrails?

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-01 03:22 -0500
SubjectRe: Why Chemtrails?
Message-ID<DBEry.205677$qo3.23640@fx16.iad>
In reply to#549557
On 01/31/2016 02:13 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Tony Dragon
>> I'm sure you are right, but it was the evidence that made you believe in
>> 'chemtrails' that I was interested in.
>> -------------
>>
>> Hey Tony. After BJ provides the evidence for chemtrails, would you ask him why he believes in esp and ghosts as well?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>
> I get "chemtrails" off my prop tips on a humid day.
>
> Does this mean some nefarious organization has hidden an evil device
> inside my solid aluminum propeller?

Only if the "solid" prop is hollow with chemicals pumped down the center

HVAC thinks you can always trust government even when they are spraying 
unsuspecting citizens with bacteria or slipping them dangerous drugs.  I 
agree with you that it's more a "nefarious organization" and from what I 
see running for president now, soon to get even more "nefarious".

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