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Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming.

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  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 14:41 +0000
    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-07 09:59 -0500
    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-07 10:26 -0500
      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 18:33 +0000
        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 13:35 -0500
          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 19:07 +0000
            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 14:17 -0500
              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 19:32 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 19:33 +0000
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 16:56 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 16:56 -0500
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 22:18 +0000
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 22:21 +0000
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 22:31 +0000
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 17:36 -0500
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 23:17 +0000
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 19:58 -0500
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-07 22:28 -0700
                          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 07:20 +0000
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 08:13 -0500
                              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 17:36 +0000
                              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 17:58 +0000
                                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 13:05 -0500
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 11:33 -0700
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-08 10:11 -0500
                          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 17:31 +0000
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 17:33 +0000
                              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 17:51 +0000
                                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 12:56 -0500
                                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 18:18 +0000
                                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 18:19 +0000
                                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 13:41 -0500
                                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 19:00 +0000
                                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 14:54 -0500
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 12:35 -0500
                              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 17:42 +0000
                                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 12:53 -0500
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-08 12:48 -0500
                              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 18:31 +0000
                                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 19:21 +0000
                                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 19:34 +0000
                                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 15:02 -0500
                                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 11:50 -0700
                                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-08 18:40 -0500
                                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 18:47 -0500
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-10 08:41 +0000
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 17:32 -0500
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-07 22:34 -0700
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 07:12 +0000
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 11:39 -0700
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-07 17:25 -0500
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 22:41 +0000
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 17:45 -0500
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 01:15 +0000
                    les trois m-tEErs. noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 17:25 -0800
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-07 22:27 -0700
            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-07 13:48 -0700
              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 21:22 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 17:00 -0500
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 22:08 +0000
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 17:12 -0500
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-07 22:34 -0700
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 02:02 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-07 18:27 -0700
              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 21:35 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-07 18:29 -0700
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 01:52 +0000
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-08 12:31 -0700
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 20:00 +0000
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 15:04 -0500
                          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 20:22 +0000
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 15:30 -0500
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 11:53 -0700
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 11:53 -0700
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-08 09:53 -0500
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-08 16:03 +0100
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 10:07 -0500
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 15:14 +0000
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-09 07:30 -0600
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 08:34 -0500
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-09 08:17 -0600
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 10:22 -0500
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 17:25 +0000
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-08 12:45 -0500
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 18:08 +0000
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 13:16 -0500
                          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 18:43 +0000
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 13:49 -0500
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 14:50 -0500
                          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-08 15:45 -0700
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-08 15:45 -0700
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-08 18:35 -0500
                        My desktop is blank. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-08 17:15 -0800
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 22:00 +0000
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 22:57 +0000
                          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 18:06 -0500
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 16:53 -0700
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 12:56 -0700
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-08 12:37 -0700
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 19:27 +0000
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 12:59 -0700
        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-07 14:08 -0500
        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-07 14:50 -0500
          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-07 16:45 -0500
        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-08 15:49 +0000
    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-07 10:26 -0600
      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 18:44 +0000
        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 08:12 -0600
          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 19:35 +0000
    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-07 22:58 +0000
      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 01:37 +0000
        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-08 14:37 +0000
          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 08:34 -0800
        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 08:44 -0600
          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 19:32 +0000
    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-11-10 14:12 -0800

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#531038

FromBig Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com>
Date2015-11-07 17:12 -0500
Message-ID<1qy5o9shb2zxs$.op6xcy9iltiq.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#531037
On 7 Nov 2015 22:08:07 GMT, Fabian Russell wrote:

> On Sat, 07 Nov 2015 17:00:58 -0500, Big Fish in a Small Crotch wrote:
> 
>> 
>> You might want to educate yourself on the topic of Linux security.
>> 
>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/business/2015/11/05/net-of-insecurity-the-kernel-of-the-argument/
>>
> 
> There is no such thing as "The Kernel."
> 
> The Linux kernel can be configured to an extreme degree to accommodate
> a variety of needs and intentions.
> 
> With MS Windows, you get only what they give.

Great self nuke.
You didn't even read the article.

It's an interview with Linus.

He knows a little bit about the kernel.

<This is just too easy. I think this Fabian might be a Dumb Willy Poaster
nym>

-- 
You Ain't The Biggest Fish In The Crotch.

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#531137

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-07 22:34 -0700
Message-ID<D2642D10.63185%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#531037
On 11/7/15, 3:08 PM, in article
pan.2015.11.07.22.06.30@localhost.localdomain, "Fabian Russell"
<root@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

> There is no such thing as "The Kernel."

The first rule of The Kernel is we do not talk about The Kernel!

:)

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#531093

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-11-08 02:02 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.11.08.02.02.35@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#531036
On Sat, 07 Nov 2015 17:00:58 -0500, Big Fish in a Small Crotch wrote:

>> 
>> How do you know?  Have you carefully audited the source code?
> 
> Have you done so with Linux?
>  

In a way, yes.


> 
> How's Heartbleed these days?
>

I've always installed (compiled) OpenSSL without the heartbleed
functionality.  It makes no sense in my situation and it is very
easy to do.

Try that with Microsoft.  It can't be done.  You'll get only what
they give and like it or else.

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#531079

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-11-07 18:27 -0700
Message-ID<iYKdnf0uz_-TOKPLnZ2dnUU7-a2dnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#531016
On 11/07/15 14:22, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Nov 2015 13:48:38 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>
>>
>> Mostly just FUD and can be shut off.
>>
>
> How do you know?  Have you carefully audited the source code?
>

You go to the win10 newsgroup... that's how you get to know these things.

> Has anyone yet published an exhaustive network/packet analysis?
> (Someone may have done so, but I don't follow MS news at all.)
>

Good grief.


-- 
My problem is that I don't have enough middle fingers.

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#531026

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-11-07 21:35 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.11.07.21.35.57@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#531009
On Sat, 07 Nov 2015 13:48:38 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:

> 
> Mostly just FUD and can be shut off.
> 

I have Windows 10 installed, but the network cable gets yanked out before
I boot the machine -- and it stays yanked.

One of their hailed "innovations" is a crude form of virtual desktops,
something which has been possible on Linux for the past TWENTY YEARS
(at least).

Microsoft Windows -- it strives to do everything for the user except wipe
his ass (but it can provide instructions).

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#531081

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-11-07 18:29 -0700
Message-ID<iYKdnfwuz_8IOKPLnZ2dnUU7-a2dnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#531026
On 11/07/15 14:35, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Nov 2015 13:48:38 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>
>>
>> Mostly just FUD and can be shut off.
>>
>
> I have Windows 10 installed, but the network cable gets yanked out before
> I boot the machine -- and it stays yanked.
>
> One of their hailed "innovations" is a crude form of virtual desktops,
> something which has been possible on Linux for the past TWENTY YEARS
> (at least).
>
> Microsoft Windows -- it strives to do everything for the user except wipe
> his ass (but it can provide instructions).
>
Go ask in the win10 newsgroup.  Or are you afraid to ask people how to 
do it.
Better yet, go to www.microsoft.com and go to the support section.
Then do a search.

But from the looks of it, you are using linux.  So it figures.

-- 
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#531090

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-11-08 01:52 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.11.08.01.52.28@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#531081
On Sat, 07 Nov 2015 18:29:50 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:

>
> Go ask in the win10 newsgroup.  Or are you afraid to ask people how to 
> do it.


Oh I shut everything off that is supposedly possible to shut off.

But only a fool would trust the officially published methods.

It's best to yank out the network cord and keep it yanked.  If I need
network access, I have my fabulous Linux machine right next door
and can employ the "sneaker net."

With Windows 10, Microsoft is begging for a mercy killing, but there
are enough fools in the world to keep it alive still.

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#531226

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-11-08 12:31 -0700
Message-ID<ZbqdndHhGdS_PqLLnZ2dnUU7-eOdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#531090
On 11/07/15 18:52, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Nov 2015 18:29:50 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>
>>
>> Go ask in the win10 newsgroup.  Or are you afraid to ask people how to
>> do it.
>
>
> Oh I shut everything off that is supposedly possible to shut off.
>
> But only a fool would trust the officially published methods.

You have to trust them.  Otherwise, their reputation would go down.
Do you know what MS does with this data to *your* detriment?
How about to better market their products?

>
> It's best to yank out the network cord and keep it yanked.  If I need
> network access, I have my fabulous Linux machine right next door
> and can employ the "sneaker net."

Guffaw!!!  NSA can get into a linux machine without you even knowing 
that they've been there.  There is no real security, except like you 
say, pull the plug.

>
> With Windows 10, Microsoft is begging for a mercy killing, but there
> are enough fools in the world to keep it alive still.
>

Linux isn't any better, like I already told you.



-- 
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#531233

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-11-08 20:00 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.11.08.20.00.48@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#531226
On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 12:31:45 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:

> 
> You have to trust them.  Otherwise, their reputation would go down.
> 

With me, Microsoft has no reputation, or even value.

If someone gave a box full for MSFT stock certificates, I wouldn't
even wipe my ass with them. 


> 
> Guffaw!!!  NSA can get into a linux machine without you even knowing 
> that they've been there.
>

They can't get into *my* machine.

They can knock, knock, and knock but I will never answer.  Soon they'll
get hungry for a BigMac and fries, the NSA standard fare, and then go away.   


> 
> Linux isn't any better, like I already told you.
>

Linux calls a directory a "directory," and not a "folder."

To me, you can't get any better than that.

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#531235

FromBig Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com>
Date2015-11-08 15:04 -0500
Message-ID<h46le7rc7so1$.1g1guocmtsvi7$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#531233
On 8 Nov 2015 20:00:48 GMT, Fabian Russell wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 12:31:45 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
> 
>> 
>> You have to trust them.  Otherwise, their reputation would go down.
>> 
> 
> With me, Microsoft has no reputation, or even value.
> 
> If someone gave a box full for MSFT stock certificates, I wouldn't
> even wipe my ass with them. 

That shows what a massive idiot you are.
Either that or a pathological liar.

There was one idiot in COLA who claimed he wouldn't take a free brand new
Corvette if he was given one.
Coincidently he's that same guy I asked you if you had met: Jeddiah.
You two sound an awful lot alike.

Interesting.



-- 
You Ain't The Biggest Fish In The Crotch.

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#531236

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-11-08 20:22 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.11.08.20.22.23@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#531235
On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 15:04:54 -0500, Big Fish in a Small Crotch wrote:

>> 
>> If someone gave a box full for MSFT stock certificates, I wouldn't
>> even wipe my ass with them. 
> 
> That shows what a massive idiot you are.
> Either that or a pathological liar.
> 

That's a literary device known as "hyperbole."

The statement is not to be interpreted literally, but only as
an exaggeration to emphasize my poor opinion of MSFT.

But, since you are on MS Windows, merely hovering over that
statement with the mouse cursor should have initiated a connection
to some Microsoft server and resulted in a pop up information
balloon containing the explanatory information.

Looks like your system is faulty.  You'd better file a bug
report (and wait 6 months for an answer).


>
> There was one idiot in COLA who claimed he wouldn't take a free brand new
> Corvette if he was given one.
> Coincidently he's that same guy I asked you if you had met: Jeddiah.
> You two sound an awful lot alike.
> 

I can't help you.  I don't frequent COLA.  Some cross-posted this thread
to sci.physics which is where I hang out.

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#531238

FromBig Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com>
Date2015-11-08 15:30 -0500
Message-ID<1b959y6j0h5fd$.1a2k6uwftb71m.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#531236
On 8 Nov 2015 20:22:18 GMT, Fabian Russell wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 15:04:54 -0500, Big Fish in a Small Crotch wrote:
> 
>>> 
>>> If someone gave a box full for MSFT stock certificates, I wouldn't
>>> even wipe my ass with them. 
>> 
>> That shows what a massive idiot you are.
>> Either that or a pathological liar.
>> 
> 
> That's a literary device known as "hyperbole."

It's called an opinion.
Everyone has one.
Just like a .........
 
> The statement is not to be interpreted literally, but only as
> an exaggeration to emphasize my poor opinion of MSFT.

Well at least you clarified it.
Two different issues here: 
1. Hating Microsoft. For you that's a given.
2. Turning down free money. Only idiots do that. Think about this, taking
the free money and donating it to the FOSS. Wouldn't that stick it to
Microsoft? Well, not really, but it would probably make you feel good.


> But, since you are on MS Windows, merely hovering over that
> statement with the mouse cursor should have initiated a connection
> to some Microsoft server and resulted in a pop up information
> balloon containing the explanatory information.

A statement like " If someone gave a box full for MSFT stock certificates,
I wouldn't even wipe my ass with them." Stands on it's own.

Given the context of COLA, where this has been discussed before, it is
typical of the Linux loons to say something like that.

Now, do I believe that is what they would actually do?
Of course not.
They might be loons, but throwing away free money is not something even a
Linux loon would do.
Of course they would report back to COLA claiming that is what they did but
it would be a lie. Linux loons are known coast to coast for lying.
 

 
> Looks like your system is faulty.  You'd better file a bug
> report (and wait 6 months for an answer).

Looks like you made a foolish statement without considering the
interpretation.


> 
>>
>> There was one idiot in COLA who claimed he wouldn't take a free brand new
>> Corvette if he was given one.
>> Coincidently he's that same guy I asked you if you had met: Jeddiah.
>> You two sound an awful lot alike.
>> 
> 
> I can't help you.  I don't frequent COLA.  Some cross-posted this thread
> to sci.physics which is where I hang out.

COLA is a lot more fun.
Maybe we should direct replies to COLA so as not to bother the folks in
sci.physics?
This post is the start.


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#531472

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-11-09 11:53 -0700
Message-ID<ZJednceYJ7oidt3LnZ2dnUU7-budnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#531236
On 11/08/15 13:22, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 15:04:54 -0500, Big Fish in a Small Crotch wrote:
>
>>>
>>> If someone gave a box full for MSFT stock certificates, I wouldn't
>>> even wipe my ass with them.
>>
>> That shows what a massive idiot you are.
>> Either that or a pathological liar.
>>
>
> That's a literary device known as "hyperbole."
>
> The statement is not to be interpreted literally, but only as
> an exaggeration to emphasize my poor opinion of MSFT.
>
> But, since you are on MS Windows, merely hovering over that
> statement with the mouse cursor should have initiated a connection
> to some Microsoft server and resulted in a pop up information
> balloon containing the explanatory information.
>
> Looks like your system is faulty.  You'd better file a bug
> report (and wait 6 months for an answer).
>
>
>>
>> There was one idiot in COLA who claimed he wouldn't take a free brand new
>> Corvette if he was given one.
>> Coincidently he's that same guy I asked you if you had met: Jeddiah.
>> You two sound an awful lot alike.
>>
>
> I can't help you.  I don't frequent COLA.  Some cross-posted this thread
> to sci.physics which is where I hang out.
>

Good.  Now stay there, you moron.


-- 
My problem is that I don't have enough middle fingers.

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#531471

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-11-09 11:53 -0700
Message-ID<ZJedncSYJ7oCdt3LnZ2dnUU7-budnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#531233
On 11/08/15 13:00, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 12:31:45 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>
>>
>> You have to trust them.  Otherwise, their reputation would go down.
>>
>
> With me, Microsoft has no reputation, or even value.
>

That's your problem.

> If someone gave a box full for MSFT stock certificates, I wouldn't
> even wipe my ass with them.
>

Why?  Are they too scratchy for your anus?
Better to sell them and make a lot of money.

>
>>
>> Guffaw!!!  NSA can get into a linux machine without you even knowing
>> that they've been there.
>>
>
> They can't get into *my* machine.

That's what you think.  Unless of course you pull the plug on the 
ethernet/wifii connection.

>
> They can knock, knock, and knock but I will never answer.  Soon they'll
> get hungry for a BigMac and fries, the NSA standard fare, and then go away.
>
They can get around that wimpy security of yours.

>
>>
>> Linux isn't any better, like I already told you.
>>
>
> Linux calls a directory a "directory," and not a "folder."
>

Who gives a shit?  You?   Guffaw!!!

> To me, you can't get any better than that.
>

LOL!!!


-- 
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#531161

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2015-11-08 09:53 -0500
Message-ID<n1nngr$nta$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#531026
On 11/7/2015 4:35 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Nov 2015 13:48:38 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>
>>
>> Mostly just FUD and can be shut off.
>>
>
> I have Windows 10 installed, but the network cable gets yanked out before
> I boot the machine -- and it stays yanked.
>
> One of their hailed "innovations" is a crude form of virtual desktops,
> something which has been possible on Linux for the past TWENTY YEARS
> (at least).


Windows virtual desktops are in no way "crude".  They're at least 
functionally equivalent to most Linux virtual desktop implementations.

In some ways they're better.  The Expo VD included with Mint doesn't 
even renumber the desktops that remain when you delete one.  And Expo 
allows you to name all the desktops the same.  Half-ass hobbyware 
strikes again.




> Microsoft Windows -- it strives to do everything for the user except wipe
> his ass (but it can provide instructions).

Linux -- it makes the user chew on his own ass, then lie that it tasted 
'Good!'.

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#531162

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2015-11-08 16:03 +0100
Message-ID<n1no35$pbi$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#531161
DFS wrote:

> On 11/7/2015 4:35 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
>> On Sat, 07 Nov 2015 13:48:38 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Mostly just FUD and can be shut off.
>>>
>>
>> I have Windows 10 installed, but the network cable gets yanked out before
>> I boot the machine -- and it stays yanked.
>>
>> One of their hailed "innovations" is a crude form of virtual desktops,
>> something which has been possible on Linux for the past TWENTY YEARS
>> (at least).
> 
> 
> Windows virtual desktops are in no way "crude".  They're at least
> functionally equivalent to most Linux virtual desktop implementations.

Except that they aren't

> In some ways they're better.  

Really? Care to name some of these "better" ways?

> The Expo VD included with Mint doesn't
> even renumber the desktops that remain when you delete one.  And Expo
> allows you to name all the desktops the same.  Half-ass hobbyware
> strikes again.

No need to tell us over and over again that you need nannying software 
because you can't handle choice

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#531163

FromBig Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com>
Date2015-11-08 10:07 -0500
Message-ID<1jiqm25aczpq4.1db5m8d1gyseg.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#531162
On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 16:03:09 +0100, Peter Köhlmann wrote:

> DFS wrote:
> 
>> On 11/7/2015 4:35 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
>>> On Sat, 07 Nov 2015 13:48:38 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mostly just FUD and can be shut off.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have Windows 10 installed, but the network cable gets yanked out before
>>> I boot the machine -- and it stays yanked.
>>>
>>> One of their hailed "innovations" is a crude form of virtual desktops,
>>> something which has been possible on Linux for the past TWENTY YEARS
>>> (at least).
>> 
>> 
>> Windows virtual desktops are in no way "crude".  They're at least
>> functionally equivalent to most Linux virtual desktop implementations.
> 
> Except that they aren't

How so?
Be specific.

>> In some ways they're better.  
> 
> Really? Care to name some of these "better" ways?

He did. Look below.

>> The Expo VD included with Mint doesn't
>> even renumber the desktops that remain when you delete one.  And Expo
>> allows you to name all the desktops the same.  Half-ass hobbyware
>> strikes again.
> 
> No need to tell us over and over again that you need nannying software 
> because you can't handle choice

With Linux choice means choosing from a pool of poor implementations so
it's not really choice at all.
It's choosing whether your wife fucks the mailman or the personal trainer.
Does it really matter?

-- 
You Ain't The Biggest Fish In The Crotch.

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#531165

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-08 15:14 +0000
Message-ID<da977jF3i8qU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#531162
On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 16:03:09 +0100, Peter Köhlmann wrote:

> DFS wrote:
> 
>> On 11/7/2015 4:35 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
>>> On Sat, 07 Nov 2015 13:48:38 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Mostly just FUD and can be shut off.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I have Windows 10 installed, but the network cable gets yanked out
>>> before I boot the machine -- and it stays yanked.
>>>
>>> One of their hailed "innovations" is a crude form of virtual desktops,
>>> something which has been possible on Linux for the past TWENTY YEARS
>>> (at least).
>> 
>> 
>> Windows virtual desktops are in no way "crude".  They're at least
>> functionally equivalent to most Linux virtual desktop implementations.
> 
> Except that they aren't
>
Noted that you haven't said or shown in which ways they aren't.
 
>> In some ways they're better.
> 
> Really? Care to name some of these "better" ways?
> 
I'm sure someone will be more than happy to do that when you provide the 
proof or at least an explanation of how they are not the same or better.  
Since you are so arrogant that you never feel the need to do that, I 
suspect you'll just get flamed a bit and then ignored.

>> The Expo VD included with Mint doesn't even renumber the desktops that
>> remain when you delete one.  And Expo allows you to name all the
>> desktops the same.  Half-ass hobbyware strikes again.
> 
> No need to tell us over and over again that you need nannying software
> because you can't handle choice

It isn't about 'choice' unless there are better choices.  In almost all 
instances, linux on the desktop offers no significant advantage to make 
it the 'choice'.





-- 
Lloyd

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#531374

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-11-09 07:30 -0600
Message-ID<vk714b1ovbpbvro1umsvorvg1l6l4jg3qq@4ax.com>
In reply to#531162
Peter Köhlmann wrote:

> some dumb fsck wrote:
>>
>> Expo
>> allows you to name all the desktops the same.  Half-ass hobbyware
>> strikes again.
>
>No need to tell us over and over again that you need nannying software 
>because you can't handle choice

I wonder what the Ezekreep thinks of his shitty pal's claim that the
software engineer should deny the user the choice of naming the
desktops the same, if that's what the user wants to do.

Can't say anything bad about a fellow shithead...

-- 
"Quite simply, they need to quit blaming Microsoft for all of their
problems and perhaps take some responsibility and accountability and
face up to what's really happening."  -  Larry "message ID" Qualig

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#531377

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-11-09 08:34 -0500
Message-ID<n1q79o$87s$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#531374
On 2015-11-09 8:30 AM, chrisv wrote:
> Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> 
>> some dumb fsck wrote:
>>>
>>> Expo
>>> allows you to name all the desktops the same.  Half-ass hobbyware
>>> strikes again.
>>
>> No need to tell us over and over again that you need nannying software 
>> because you can't handle choice
> 
> I wonder what the Ezekreep thinks of his shitty pal's claim that the
> software engineer should deny the user the choice of naming the
> desktops the same, if that's what the user wants to do.
> 
> Can't say anything bad about a fellow shithead...

LOL, cumstainv continues to profess his love for Ezekiel.

I admire your persistence, cumstainv.

-- 
Slimer

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