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  Supervolcanoes likely triggered externally, study finds Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 17:59 -0600
    Re: Supervolcanoes likely triggered externally, study finds gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-04 20:44 -0600
      Re: Supervolcanoes likely triggered externally, study finds noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 19:05 -0800
        Re: Supervolcanoes likely triggered externally, study finds "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 09:37 -0800
          Re: Supervolcanoes likely triggered externally, study finds dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-05 14:38 -0500
            Re: Supervolcanoes likely triggered externally, study finds Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 22:39 +0100
              estudent noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 19:47 -0800
                Re: estudent "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 15:05 -0800
                  Re: estudent jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-07 00:55 +0000
                Re: estudent noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 07:49 -0800
              Re: Supervolcanoes likely triggered externally, study finds richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2015-11-06 15:28 +0000
                Re: Supervolcanoes likely triggered externally, study finds Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 00:40 +0100
              Re: Supervolcanoes likely triggered externally, study finds dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-06 12:44 -0500
                Re: Supervolcanoes likely triggered externally, study finds Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 00:42 +0100
                  Re: Supervolcanoes likely triggered externally, study finds dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-07 07:18 -0500
                    Re: Supervolcanoes likely triggered externally, study finds Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 15:07 +0100
                      Re: Supervolcanoes likely triggered externally, study finds dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-07 21:43 -0500
                        Re: Supervolcanoes likely triggered externally, study finds Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 07:50 +0100
                          Re: Supervolcanoes likely triggered externally, study finds dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-09 07:35 -0500
                            Re: Supervolcanoes likely triggered externally, study finds Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 14:06 +0100

#530451 — Supervolcanoes likely triggered externally, study finds

Supervolcanoes likely triggered externally, study finds
> http://phys.org/news/2015-11-supervolcanoes-triggered-externally.html

> Supervolcanoes, massive eruptions with potential global consequences,
> appear not to follow the conventional volcano mechanics of internal
> pressure building until the volcano blows. Instead, a new study
> finds, such massive magma chambers might erupt when the roof above
> them cracks or collapses.
>
> Knowledge of triggering mechanisms is crucial for monitoring
> supervolcano systems, including ones that lie beneath Yellowstone
> National Park and Long Valley, California, according to the study led
> by Patricia Gregg, University of Illinois professor of geology, in
> collaboration with professor Eric Grosfils of Pomona College and
> professor Shan de Silva of Oregon State University. The study was
> published in the Journal of Volcanology and Geothermal Research.
> Gregg also presented the findings this week at the annual meeting of
> the Geological Society of America.


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#530479

On 11/4/2015 5:59 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Supervolcanoes likely triggered externally, study finds
>> http://phys.org/news/2015-11-supervolcanoes-triggered-externally.html
>
>> Supervolcanoes, massive eruptions with potential global consequences,
>> appear not to follow the conventional volcano mechanics of internal
>> pressure building until the volcano blows. Instead, a new study
>> finds, such massive magma chambers might erupt when the roof above
>> them cracks or collapses.

>> Knowledge of triggering mechanisms is crucial for monitoring
>> supervolcano systems, including ones that lie beneath Yellowstone
>> National Park and Long Valley, California, according to the study led
>> by Patricia Gregg, University of Illinois professor of geology, in
>> collaboration with professor Eric Grosfils of Pomona College and
>> professor Shan de Silva of Oregon State University. The study was
>> published in the Journal of Volcanology and Geothermal Research.
>> Gregg also presented the findings this week at the annual meeting of
>> the Geological Society of America.
>
>


  and caused by Global Worming for sure.

phys.org is packed full of idiots, how can the roof caving in be an 
"EXTERNAL" event ?

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#530486

no, but by changing the climate,
as with the vapor of combustion (HOH

> >> the Geological Society of America.
> >
> >
> 
> 
>   and caused by Global Worming for sure.
> 
> phys.org is packed full of idiots, how can the roof caving in be an 
> "EXTERNAL" event ?

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#530554

On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 7:05:58 PM UTC-8, noTthaTguY wrote:
> no, but by changing the climate,
> as with the vapor of combustion (HOH
> 
> > >> the Geological Society of America.
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> >   and caused by Global Worming for sure.
> > 
> > phys.org is packed full of idiots, how can the roof caving in be an 
> > "EXTERNAL" event ?

Yellowstone is ready to blow. It will change the face of N.America  Trebert

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#530590

On 11/5/2015 12:37 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 7:05:58 PM UTC-8, noTthaTguY wrote:
>> no, but by changing the climate,
>> as with the vapor of combustion (HOH
>>
>>>>> the Geological Society of America.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    and caused by Global Worming for sure.
>>>
>>> phys.org is packed full of idiots, how can the roof caving in be an
>>> "EXTERNAL" event ?
>
> Yellowstone is ready to blow. It will change the face of N.America  Trebert

"ready", as in:

In a minute?
In a century?

-- 
dvus

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#530614

Dne 05/11/2015 v 20:38 dvus napsal(a):
> On 11/5/2015 12:37 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 7:05:58 PM UTC-8, noTthaTguY wrote:
>>> no, but by changing the climate,
>>> as with the vapor of combustion (HOH
>>>
>>>>>> the Geological Society of America.

>>>>    and caused by Global Worming for sure.
>>>>
>>>> phys.org is packed full of idiots, how can the roof caving in be an
>>>> "EXTERNAL" event ?
>>
>> Yellowstone is ready to blow. It will change the face of N.America  Trebert
> 
> "ready", as in:
> 
> In a minute?
> In a century?
> 

Short answer ? Yes.

Longer answer - Let say weeks to hundreds of thousands of years,
as nobody knows.

Similarly as nobody knows,
when the mountainside of the Cumbre Vieja ridge at La Palma
at Canary islands is going to slide to the ocean.

When it does, it will make a supertsunami
that will be hundreds meters high,
racing to splash Eastern US coast.

Similarly as nobody knows
for a particular atomic kernel of Radium 226,
if it decays today or after 3000 years.

-- 
Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )

Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.

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#530705 — estudent

it is a big problem, since
tectonism increases by an order of magnitude
(with glaciation

> Similarly as nobody knows
> for a particular atomic kernel of Radium 226,
> if it decays today or after 3000 years.
> 
> -- 
> Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )
> 
> Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.

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#530801 — Re: estudent

On Thursday, November 5, 2015 at 7:48:10 PM UTC-8, noTthaTguY wrote:
> it is a big problem, since
> tectonism increases by an order of magnitude
> (with glaciation
> 
> > Similarly as nobody knows
> > for a particular atomic kernel of Radium 226,
> > if it decays today or after 3000 years.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )
> > 
> > Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.

Tectonics is ready to move MT.Baldy 4 feet both up and across It will be a 6-5 30 miles west of LA.Glass will kill many in Orange county.Its due and I predict it in 5 months.Cool night pretty afternoon.No clouds no rain Sun hurting my blue eyes.  TreBert PS filled out my Fullerton mayor papers. This time I win

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#530821 — Re: estudent

reber g=emc^2 <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, November 5, 2015 at 7:48:10 PM UTC-8, noTthaTguY wrote:
>> it is a big problem, since
>> tectonism increases by an order of magnitude
>> (with glaciation
>> 
>> > Similarly as nobody knows
>> > for a particular atomic kernel of Radium 226,
>> > if it decays today or after 3000 years.
>> > 
>> > -- 
>> > Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )
>> > 
>> > Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.
> 
> Tectonics is ready to move MT.Baldy 4 feet both up and across It will be a 6-5 30 miles west of LA.Glass will kill many in Orange county.Its due and I predict it in 5 months.Cool night pretty afternoon.No clouds no rain Sun hurting my blue eyes.  TreBert PS filled out my Fullerton mayor papers. This time I win

Mt Baldy is not volcanic and not moving; too much Bud again.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#530906 — Re: estudent

see teh Basin & rangE for evidence

> it is a big problem, since
> tectonism increases by an order of magnitude
> (with glaciation

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#530741

In article <n1gi77$h14$1@dont-email.me>,
Poutnik  <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> wrote:

>Similarly as nobody knows,
>when the mountainside of the Cumbre Vieja ridge at La Palma
>at Canary islands is going to slide to the ocean.
>
>When it does, it will make a supertsunami
>that will be hundreds meters high,
>racing to splash Eastern US coast.

Most researchers consider this unlikely.  Previous collapses have
been in multiple smaller stages.

-- Richard

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#530811

On 11/06/2015 04:28 PM, Richard Tobin wrote:
> In article <n1gi77$h14$1@dont-email.me>,
> Poutnik  <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Similarly as nobody knows,
>> when the mountainside of the Cumbre Vieja ridge at La Palma
>> at Canary islands is going to slide to the ocean.
>>
>> When it does, it will make a supertsunami
>> that will be hundreds meters high,
>> racing to splash Eastern US coast.
> 
> Most researchers consider this unlikely.  Previous collapses have
> been in multiple smaller stages.
> 

Yes, I agree this is contraversal topic.

-- 
Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )

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#530762

On 11/5/2015 4:39 PM, Poutnik wrote:
> Dne 05/11/2015 v 20:38 dvus napsal(a):
>> On 11/5/2015 12:37 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 7:05:58 PM UTC-8, noTthaTguY wrote:
>>>> no, but by changing the climate,
>>>> as with the vapor of combustion (HOH
>>>>
>>>>>>> the Geological Society of America.
>
>>>>>     and caused by Global Worming for sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> phys.org is packed full of idiots, how can the roof caving in be an
>>>>> "EXTERNAL" event ?
>>>
>>> Yellowstone is ready to blow. It will change the face of N.America  Trebert
>>
>> "ready", as in:
>>
>> In a minute?
>> In a century?
>>
>
> Short answer ? Yes.
>
> Longer answer - Let say weeks to hundreds of thousands of years,
> as nobody knows.
>
> Similarly as nobody knows,
> when the mountainside of the Cumbre Vieja ridge at La Palma
> at Canary islands is going to slide to the ocean.
>
> When it does, it will make a supertsunami
> that will be hundreds meters high,
> racing to splash Eastern US coast.
>
> Similarly as nobody knows
> for a particular atomic kernel of Radium 226,
> if it decays today or after 3000 years.

So the statement "Yellowstone is ready to blow" is sort of meaningless. 
Is anything that might happen between now and a few hundred thousand 
years from now "ready" to happen in your estimation?

-- 
dvus

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#530812

On 11/06/2015 06:44 PM, dvus wrote:
> 
> So the statement "Yellowstone is ready to blow" is sort of meaningless. 
> Is anything that might happen between now and a few hundred thousand 
> years from now "ready" to happen in your estimation?

It depends on what you consider by being ready.

-- 
Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )

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#530856

On 11/6/2015 6:42 PM, Poutnik wrote:
> On 11/06/2015 06:44 PM, dvus wrote:
>>
>> So the statement "Yellowstone is ready to blow" is sort of meaningless.
>> Is anything that might happen between now and a few hundred thousand
>> years from now "ready" to happen in your estimation?
>
> It depends on what you consider by being ready.

Which is exactly why I asked what you meant by "ready". You are, after 
all, the one who used that term in your remarks.

Just wondering is all, should I move to Alaska in the next month or year?

-- 
dvus

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#530864

Dne 07/11/2015 v 13:18 dvus napsal(a):
> On 11/6/2015 6:42 PM, Poutnik wrote:
>> On 11/06/2015 06:44 PM, dvus wrote:
>>>
>>> So the statement "Yellowstone is ready to blow" is sort of meaningless.
>>> Is anything that might happen between now and a few hundred thousand
>>> years from now "ready" to happen in your estimation?
>>
>> It depends on what you consider by being ready.
> 
> Which is exactly why I asked what you meant by "ready". You are, after 
> all, the one who used that term in your remarks.
> 
> Just wondering is all, should I move to Alaska in the next month or year?
> 

I am not the one who used it, I just responded.

A gun is ready to fire a bullet,
if loaded by ammo, primed, and protection is OFF.

But when or even if it happens is unclear.
Being ready to event says nothing about when or if event happen.


-- 
Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )

Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.

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#531105

On 11/7/2015 9:07 AM, Poutnik wrote:
> Dne 07/11/2015 v 13:18 dvus napsal(a):
>> On 11/6/2015 6:42 PM, Poutnik wrote:
>>> On 11/06/2015 06:44 PM, dvus wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So the statement "Yellowstone is ready to blow" is sort of meaningless.
>>>> Is anything that might happen between now and a few hundred thousand
>>>> years from now "ready" to happen in your estimation?
>>>
>>> It depends on what you consider by being ready.
>>
>> Which is exactly why I asked what you meant by "ready". You are, after
>> all, the one who used that term in your remarks.
>>
>> Just wondering is all, should I move to Alaska in the next month or year?
>>
>
> I am not the one who used it, I just responded.
>
> A gun is ready to fire a bullet,
> if loaded by ammo, primed, and protection is OFF.
>
> But when or even if it happens is unclear.
> Being ready to event says nothing about when or if event happen.

Yes, I apologize, it was "reber g=emc^2" (or Trebert, depending) who 
made the statement that Yellowstone was "ready" to blow. At the time I 
thought it a silly statement in talking about Supervolcanoes.

-- 
dvus

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#531145

Dne 08/11/2015 v 03:43 dvus napsal(a):
> On 11/7/2015 9:07 AM, Poutnik wrote:

>>
>> I am not the one who used it, I just responded.
>>
>> A gun is ready to fire a bullet,
>> if loaded by ammo, primed, and protection is OFF.
>>
>> But when or even if it happens is unclear.
>> Being ready to event says nothing about when or if event happen.
> 
> Yes, I apologize, it was "reber g=emc^2" (or Trebert, depending) who 
> made the statement that Yellowstone was "ready" to blow. At the time I 
> thought it a silly statement in talking about Supervolcanoes.
> 

Not fully silly, as it depends on interpretation.

It is ready, but just in sense that

it seems it blows repeatedly
is active below the crust
and now is about the time.

But "about the time" is broad interval
of several tens/hundreds thousands years.

There are two extreme approaches to catastrophic topics.

One says such a thing can/will never happen.
The other says it is coming very soon for sure.
Reality is somewhere between.


-- 
Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )

Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.

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#531368

On 11/8/2015 1:50 AM, Poutnik wrote:
> Dne 08/11/2015 v 03:43 dvus napsal(a):
>> On 11/7/2015 9:07 AM, Poutnik wrote:
>
>>>
>>> I am not the one who used it, I just responded.
>>>
>>> A gun is ready to fire a bullet,
>>> if loaded by ammo, primed, and protection is OFF.
>>>
>>> But when or even if it happens is unclear.
>>> Being ready to event says nothing about when or if event happen.
>>
>> Yes, I apologize, it was "reber g=emc^2" (or Trebert, depending) who
>> made the statement that Yellowstone was "ready" to blow. At the time I
>> thought it a silly statement in talking about Supervolcanoes.
>>
>
> Not fully silly, as it depends on interpretation.
>
> It is ready, but just in sense that
>
> it seems it blows repeatedly
> is active below the crust
> and now is about the time.
>
> But "about the time" is broad interval
> of several tens/hundreds thousands years.
>
> There are two extreme approaches to catastrophic topics.
>
> One says such a thing can/will never happen.
> The other says it is coming very soon for sure.
> Reality is somewhere between.

Well, if nothing else I'm glad two people in here can agree on something 
even if one of them isn't me.

-- 
dvus

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#531372

On 11/09/2015 01:35 PM, dvus wrote:
> 
> Well, if nothing else I'm glad two people in here can agree on something 
> even if one of them isn't me.

:-)  It is not easy, as an disagreement can happen
even if both persons are the same.  :-D

-- 
Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )

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