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| Started by | Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> |
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| First post | 2015-08-11 09:58 -0500 |
| Last post | 2015-08-12 12:35 +0800 |
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-11 09:58 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-11 10:14 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 13:01 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-11 23:26 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 00:24 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-11 13:36 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 07:58 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 19:23 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:48 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:13 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 20:57 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 12:39 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 15:48 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 15:26 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 07:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 12:51 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:03 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-12 17:49 -0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-12 18:08 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-13 00:27 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:25 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "W.TS." <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-12 20:55 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-12 19:24 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-12 19:24 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:53 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 23:58 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 15:56 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:25 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-13 06:13 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-13 14:20 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:39 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 23:59 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 16:15 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:44 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:30 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:30 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 10:19 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:11 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-15 05:31 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 18:25 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:02 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 19:46 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 11:45 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:48 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 22:04 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:15 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-16 22:04 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 15:15 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-17 00:38 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:22 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 12:30 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-17 10:27 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:50 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:28 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 12:32 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 18:49 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 18:48 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:00 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:24 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 06:45 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:33 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:35 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:22 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 12:47 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 01:08 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:36 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-20 14:10 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:55 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-16 14:29 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-16 15:04 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:53 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:30 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 10:08 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 11:40 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:23 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:56 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-20 14:11 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 05:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-22 14:12 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:53 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-23 10:57 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 01:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 19:53 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 14:58 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:52 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:56 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 19:49 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 18:50 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:33 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:26 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:35 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:41 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:44 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 05:01 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 08:10 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-22 03:42 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:26 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:59 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-23 21:17 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:51 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 08:48 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-18 18:30 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:38 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:21 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:19 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:40 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 12:34 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 00:51 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 14:36 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 21:52 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 00:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:10 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:23 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:30 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:32 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 23:38 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:55 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:12 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:25 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:45 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:28 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:43 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-13 15:53 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:24 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-14 12:08 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:17 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-14 04:50 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-14 12:53 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-14 06:54 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:16 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 07:51 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-08-15 06:41 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 16:11 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-15 03:36 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 18:48 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-15 07:43 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-15 12:05 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-15 18:36 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 00:56 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 01:08 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 01:09 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 14:06 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 06:04 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 12:12 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 03:37 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 21:25 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 02:54 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:21 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-18 14:23 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 18:47 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:30 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-18 10:15 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 16:50 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-19 00:44 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:43 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-19 09:45 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 05:06 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-21 00:25 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 04:52 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-21 13:19 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 17:29 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-22 00:18 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-22 03:39 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-22 12:23 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:06 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:28 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:08 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:04 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 06:07 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:16 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:27 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:51 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:34 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:55 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:48 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:59 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 05:13 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:30 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 04:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-21 19:58 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 17:31 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 07:47 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-22 03:40 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:19 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-23 21:20 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:23 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-18 00:51 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 16:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-15 15:17 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:31 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-15 12:14 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:36 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 03:42 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:11 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 11:48 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:58 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 12:58 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 12:56 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-15 12:02 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 14:34 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 19:59 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:33 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:47 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:34 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:36 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-13 13:10 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 13:25 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:49 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 01:33 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:24 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 10:55 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:01 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. John Ritson <j.ritson@hotmail.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 16:55 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:11 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:39 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 12:34 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-18 11:55 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:10 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 14:38 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:00 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:41 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 15:08 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:04 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 15:38 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:57 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 07:29 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:44 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-11 20:23 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:14 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:55 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 16:00 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:51 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:49 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:46 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:18 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-14 03:19 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:25 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-15 05:34 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-11 12:30 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-11 12:59 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 15:03 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 19:30 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:19 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 12:36 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "W.TS." <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-12 20:53 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 21:20 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> - 2015-08-12 10:01 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 21:16 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-11 20:22 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:49 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 14:38 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:53 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:51 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-08-12 12:35 +0800
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| From | Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-18 22:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mr0bci$fgk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #513199 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > I don't know too much about the history of atheism....when was it > invented? Had we been born jewish, Hindu, Buddhist, Shinto and so on and not believe in the existence of the beings described in the stories of our heritage, none would really care. Nearly every religion long ago reached peace at having plenty of non-believers among their members. As such atheism is a practice restricted to regions where Christianity and/or islam are practiced. Elsewhere there isn't any need. So it was invented at some point after those religions decided on an unique innovation that belief in the existence of the beings or the stories of their heritage is a requirement. No requirement, no need for atheism. Yes requirement, need for a description of those who violate that requirement. The subject line "Atheism is baced on beliefs, not science" is a true statement but not for the reason the OP almost certainty meant. Atheism is based on a specific disbelief that is insisted on by a couple of religions but not required by most other religions. Atheism is based on a requirement of belief by a couple of religions but not a requirement by most other religions. Does atheism use science? Yes. But that's not what atheism is based upon. Atheism is based on resistence to a specific requirement by a specific pair of religions. A specific pair of religions that chose to oppose science, unlike nearly all others. Ssience naturally became a tool of atheists for that reason.
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| From | "W.TS." <m14m@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-12 20:55 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA4F4D4DAF59B0m14mearthlinknet@216.168.4.170> |
| In reply to | #513032 |
Rudy Canoza <LaLaLaLaLaLa@philhendrie.con> wrote in news:mqg49f$975$10@dont-email.me: > On 8/12/2015 10:39 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >> On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 20:57:28 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On 2015-08-12 05:13 PM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 08:48:49 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2015-08-12 08:23 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 07:58:04 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2015-08-12 01:36 AM, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 00:24:03 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The difference between a stamp and a god is in their different >>>>>>>>> functions. A stamp is just a piece of paper. A god is the lord >>>>>>>>> and center of a person's life. One can live his life without a >>>>>>>>> stamp. One can not live his life without the lord and center >>>>>>>>> of his life. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But, see, that's where your whole argument collapses, because >>>>>>>> not everyone thinks that way. I have no lord. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not really talking about thinking. I'm talking about living >>>>>>> and how a person lives his life determines without exception >>>>>>> what kind of God/god he or she worships. God is not another kind >>>>>>> of "stamp". God is the center of a person's life. The person, >>>>>>> regardless being aware of the concept and meaning of God/god or >>>>>>> not, will have a center of his/her life as long as he/she is >>>>>>> alive. This is a fact of life for everybody regardless being >>>>>>> religious or not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If one >>>>>>>>> does not believe the Lord in heaven, one has to believe the >>>>>>>>> lord in somewhere else who functions as the center of one's >>>>>>>>> life. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why? Do you have any evidence of this other than personal >>>>>>>> anecdote? You're assuming your conclusion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's just a simple observation. Life is never a random >>>>>>> meaningless event >>>>>> yes actually it is completely random and all life has no meaning >>>>>> whatsoever beyond what you make it, just because you feel that >>>>>> you are worthless and need a god to feel like there is reason you >>>>>> are here so you dont cry every night for having such a low self >>>>>> esteem, means nothing to everyone except you. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> that happens without reason. Everyone lives his/her life for >>>>>>> something or someone. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would agree with that to a point, if you find someone you love >>>>>> and that loves you then I guess you could say that >>>>>> >>>>>>> They spend their life and energy for that something or >>>>>>> someone, believing it is the purpose and goal of their life. By >>>>>>> living such life, that something or someone becomes their >>>>>>> god/God. >>>>>> >>>>>> no not exactly, that peson is very important yes, but that person >>>>>> can not wave thier hand and do the harry potter thing, actually >>>>>> noone and nothing can do that, at least not without some sort of >>>>>> tech. This person although a VIP in someones life is not going to >>>>>> be worshiped prayed or anything else those loonies to in the name >>>>>> of thier fairy tales >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Too shallow. You haven't reflected on your own life deep enough to >>>>> understand what exactly I'm talking about. I say you have a life. >>>>> You have a purpose in life. You live your life for that purpose. >>>>> Therefore, that purpose is the center of your life which makes it >>>>> your god. It does not have to be religious, but it's just as >>>>> important to you as any religious belief to a theist. You would >>>>> devote your life to serve and fulfil your purpose just like any >>>>> theist would in serving their God/gods. >>>> >>>> That does not mean I will get on my knees and pray to it, nor will >>>> I give alms to it or eat crackers because of it. >>>> >>> >>> Irrelevant. You still have a god who sits in the center of your life >>> for you to devote your life in serving him or it, despite the fact >>> you call yourself an atheist. People who call themselves atheists >>> really have no idea what the word god really means. >> >> >> you are a moron, I am done with you > > Yet another concession of defeat! How many times will he do it? God is a lie. Now pray for me to repent, see how far it gets you.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-12 19:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55CBFFDB.694F@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #513151 |
W.TS. wrote: > > Rudy Canoza <LaLaLaLaLaLa@philhendrie.con> wrote in > news:mqg49f$975$10@dont-email.me: > > > On 8/12/2015 10:39 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: > >> On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 20:57:28 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> On 2015-08-12 05:13 PM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: > >>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 08:48:49 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On 2015-08-12 08:23 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: > >>>>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 07:58:04 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 2015-08-12 01:36 AM, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 00:24:03 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The difference between a stamp and a god is in their different > >>>>>>>>> functions. A stamp is just a piece of paper. A god is the lord > >>>>>>>>> and center of a person's life. One can live his life without a > >>>>>>>>> stamp. One can not live his life without the lord and center > >>>>>>>>> of his life. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> But, see, that's where your whole argument collapses, because > >>>>>>>> not everyone thinks that way. I have no lord. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'm not really talking about thinking. I'm talking about living > >>>>>>> and how a person lives his life determines without exception > >>>>>>> what kind of God/god he or she worships. God is not another kind > >>>>>>> of "stamp". God is the center of a person's life. The person, > >>>>>>> regardless being aware of the concept and meaning of God/god or > >>>>>>> not, will have a center of his/her life as long as he/she is > >>>>>>> alive. This is a fact of life for everybody regardless being > >>>>>>> religious or not. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> If one > >>>>>>>>> does not believe the Lord in heaven, one has to believe the > >>>>>>>>> lord in somewhere else who functions as the center of one's > >>>>>>>>> life. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Why? Do you have any evidence of this other than personal > >>>>>>>> anecdote? You're assuming your conclusion. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It's just a simple observation. Life is never a random > >>>>>>> meaningless event > >>>>>> yes actually it is completely random and all life has no meaning > >>>>>> whatsoever beyond what you make it, just because you feel that > >>>>>> you are worthless and need a god to feel like there is reason you > >>>>>> are here so you dont cry every night for having such a low self > >>>>>> esteem, means nothing to everyone except you. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> that happens without reason. Everyone lives his/her life for > >>>>>>> something or someone. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I would agree with that to a point, if you find someone you love > >>>>>> and that loves you then I guess you could say that > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> They spend their life and energy for that something or > >>>>>>> someone, believing it is the purpose and goal of their life. By > >>>>>>> living such life, that something or someone becomes their > >>>>>>> god/God. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> no not exactly, that peson is very important yes, but that person > >>>>>> can not wave thier hand and do the harry potter thing, actually > >>>>>> noone and nothing can do that, at least not without some sort of > >>>>>> tech. This person although a VIP in someones life is not going to > >>>>>> be worshiped prayed or anything else those loonies to in the name > >>>>>> of thier fairy tales > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Too shallow. You haven't reflected on your own life deep enough to > >>>>> understand what exactly I'm talking about. I say you have a life. > >>>>> You have a purpose in life. You live your life for that purpose. > >>>>> Therefore, that purpose is the center of your life which makes it > >>>>> your god. It does not have to be religious, but it's just as > >>>>> important to you as any religious belief to a theist. You would > >>>>> devote your life to serve and fulfil your purpose just like any > >>>>> theist would in serving their God/gods. > >>>> > >>>> That does not mean I will get on my knees and pray to it, nor will > >>>> I give alms to it or eat crackers because of it. > >>>> > >>> > >>> Irrelevant. You still have a god who sits in the center of your life > >>> for you to devote your life in serving him or it, despite the fact > >>> you call yourself an atheist. People who call themselves atheists > >>> really have no idea what the word god really means. > >> > >> > >> you are a moron, I am done with you > > > > Yet another concession of defeat! How many times will he do it? > God is a lie. You can say the samething about women... Is a woman a machine made to look human?
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| From | wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) |
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| Date | 2015-08-12 20:00 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mqgmnh$lud$1@panix2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #512972 |
In article <mqffq7$q28$1@dont-email.me>, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: > On 2015-08-12 05:13 PM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >> On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 08:48:49 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >> >>> I say you have a life. You have a purpose in life. You live your >>> life for that purpose. Therefore, that purpose is the center of >>> your life which makes it your god. It does not have to be >>> religious, but it's just as important to you as any religious >>> belief to a theist. You would devote your life to serve and >>> fulfil your purpose just like any theist would in serving their >>> God/gods. >> >> That does not mean I will get on my knees and pray to it, nor will I >> give alms to it or eat crackers because of it. > > Irrelevant. You still have a god who sits in the center of your > life for you to devote your life in serving him or it, despite the > fact you call yourself an atheist. People who call themselves > atheists really have no idea what the word god really means. How do you get from "a purpose" to "a god" as if the words have identical meaning? -- wds
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| From | Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-12 19:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <hlwdjsd2-B417A3.19245112082015@news.giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #513133 |
In article <mqgmnh$lud$1@panix2.panix.com>, wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote: > In article <mqffq7$q28$1@dont-email.me>, > niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: > > > On 2015-08-12 05:13 PM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: > >> On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 08:48:49 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> I say you have a life. You have a purpose in life. You live your > >>> life for that purpose. Therefore, that purpose is the center of > >>> your life which makes it your god. It does not have to be > >>> religious, but it's just as important to you as any religious > >>> belief to a theist. You would devote your life to serve and > >>> fulfil your purpose just like any theist would in serving their > >>> God/gods. > >> > >> That does not mean I will get on my knees and pray to it, nor will I > >> give alms to it or eat crackers because of it. > > > > Irrelevant. You still have a god who sits in the center of your > > life for you to devote your life in serving him or it, despite the > > fact you call yourself an atheist. People who call themselves > > atheists really have no idea what the word god really means. > > How do you get from "a purpose" to "a god" as if the words have > identical meaning? If niunian can invent his own religion, why can't he invent his own definitions? :-) -- JD Išve officially given up trying to find the bottom of the barrel that is Republican depravity.--Jidyom Rosario, Addicting Info
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-13 10:53 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mqh0pr$h9o$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #513160 |
On 2015-08-13 10:24 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote: > In article <mqgmnh$lud$1@panix2.panix.com>, > wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote: > >> In article <mqffq7$q28$1@dont-email.me>, >> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >> >>> On 2015-08-12 05:13 PM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 08:48:49 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I say you have a life. You have a purpose in life. You live your >>>>> life for that purpose. Therefore, that purpose is the center of >>>>> your life which makes it your god. It does not have to be >>>>> religious, but it's just as important to you as any religious >>>>> belief to a theist. You would devote your life to serve and >>>>> fulfil your purpose just like any theist would in serving their >>>>> God/gods. >>>> >>>> That does not mean I will get on my knees and pray to it, nor will I >>>> give alms to it or eat crackers because of it. >>> >>> Irrelevant. You still have a god who sits in the center of your >>> life for you to devote your life in serving him or it, despite the >>> fact you call yourself an atheist. People who call themselves >>> atheists really have no idea what the word god really means. >> >> How do you get from "a purpose" to "a god" as if the words have >> identical meaning? > > > If niunian can invent his own religion, why can't he invent his own > definitions? > > :-) > If you can understand what I'm saying, you should know that no one can be an atheist. Everybody has his/her personal god to worship regardless being aware of the concept and meaning of the word "god" or not. Perhaps, it's time to make a new definition for Atheism. :-)
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| From | bilgat@m.nu |
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| Date | 2015-08-12 23:58 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pu8osa9mrmthl2c4s9ro31nqe02pn57lsa@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #513173 |
On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 10:53:54 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >On 2015-08-13 10:24 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote: >> In article <mqgmnh$lud$1@panix2.panix.com>, >> wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote: >> >>> In article <mqffq7$q28$1@dont-email.me>, >>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>> >>>> On 2015-08-12 05:13 PM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 08:48:49 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I say you have a life. You have a purpose in life. You live your >>>>>> life for that purpose. Therefore, that purpose is the center of >>>>>> your life which makes it your god. It does not have to be >>>>>> religious, but it's just as important to you as any religious >>>>>> belief to a theist. You would devote your life to serve and >>>>>> fulfil your purpose just like any theist would in serving their >>>>>> God/gods. >>>>> >>>>> That does not mean I will get on my knees and pray to it, nor will I >>>>> give alms to it or eat crackers because of it. >>>> >>>> Irrelevant. You still have a god who sits in the center of your >>>> life for you to devote your life in serving him or it, despite the >>>> fact you call yourself an atheist. People who call themselves >>>> atheists really have no idea what the word god really means. >>> >>> How do you get from "a purpose" to "a god" as if the words have >>> identical meaning? >> >> >> If niunian can invent his own religion, why can't he invent his own >> definitions? >> >> :-) >> > >If you can understand what I'm saying, you should know that no one can >be an atheist. Everybody has his/her personal god to worship regardless >being aware of the concept and meaning of the word "god" or not. >Perhaps, it's time to make a new definition for Atheism. > And I have already shown you why that is just a stupid fucking idea that you decided to make up becasue you feel so stupid for believing in a god
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-13 15:56 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mqhjkb$3v8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #513186 |
On 2015-08-13 12:58 PM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: > On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 10:53:54 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: > >> On 2015-08-13 10:24 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote: >>> In article <mqgmnh$lud$1@panix2.panix.com>, >>> wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote: >>> >>>> In article <mqffq7$q28$1@dont-email.me>, >>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>> >>>>> On 2015-08-12 05:13 PM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 08:48:49 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I say you have a life. You have a purpose in life. You live your >>>>>>> life for that purpose. Therefore, that purpose is the center of >>>>>>> your life which makes it your god. It does not have to be >>>>>>> religious, but it's just as important to you as any religious >>>>>>> belief to a theist. You would devote your life to serve and >>>>>>> fulfil your purpose just like any theist would in serving their >>>>>>> God/gods. >>>>>> >>>>>> That does not mean I will get on my knees and pray to it, nor will I >>>>>> give alms to it or eat crackers because of it. >>>>> >>>>> Irrelevant. You still have a god who sits in the center of your >>>>> life for you to devote your life in serving him or it, despite the >>>>> fact you call yourself an atheist. People who call themselves >>>>> atheists really have no idea what the word god really means. >>>> >>>> How do you get from "a purpose" to "a god" as if the words have >>>> identical meaning? >>> >>> >>> If niunian can invent his own religion, why can't he invent his own >>> definitions? >>> >>> :-) >>> >> >> If you can understand what I'm saying, you should know that no one can >> be an atheist. Everybody has his/her personal god to worship regardless >> being aware of the concept and meaning of the word "god" or not. >> Perhaps, it's time to make a new definition for Atheism. >> > > And I have already shown you why that is just a stupid fucking idea > that you decided to make up becasue you feel so stupid for believing > in a god > Liar. I thought you were done with me.
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| From | wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) |
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| Date | 2015-08-13 07:37 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mqhvih$vk$1@panix2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #513173 |
In article <mqh0pr$h9o$1@dont-email.me>, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: > If you can understand what I'm saying, you should know that[...] You sure have a high opinion of your own intellect, don't you? -- wds
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-13 20:25 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mqi4cj$v8l$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #513220 |
On 2015-08-13 07:37 PM, William December Starr wrote: > In article <mqh0pr$h9o$1@dont-email.me>, > niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: > >> If you can understand what I'm saying, you should know that[...] > > You sure have a high opinion of your own intellect, don't you? > > -- wds > Why? nothing else to say? already?
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| From | Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-13 06:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <hlwdjsd2-7FDC50.06133013082015@news.giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #513220 |
In article <mqhvih$vk$1@panix2.panix.com>, wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote: > In article <mqh0pr$h9o$1@dont-email.me>, > niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: > > > If you can understand what I'm saying, you should know that[...] > > You sure have a high opinion of your own intellect, don't you? Hey, when one invents one's very own version of Christianity, one certainly has enough arrogance. -- JD Išve officially given up trying to find the bottom of the barrel that is Republican depravity.--Jidyom Rosario, Addicting Info
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| From | "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-08-13 14:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <d33jt3Fa45nU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #513239 |
On 13/08/2015 14:13, Jeanne Douglas wrote: > In article <mqhvih$vk$1@panix2.panix.com>, > wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote: > >> In article <mqh0pr$h9o$1@dont-email.me>, >> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >> >>> If you can understand what I'm saying, you should know that[...] >> >> You sure have a high opinion of your own intellect, don't you? > > > Hey, when one invents one's very own version of Christianity, one > certainly has enough arrogance. > OTOH, inventing one's own version of Christianity has a very long tradition -- it started practically before Jesus' notional body was even cold. And generally speaking, individual believers are not normally troublesome. They do their own thing. I only start to worry when they begin to gather followers, when group-think and group dynamics take over.
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-13 10:39 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mqh080$g26$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #513133 |
On 2015-08-13 08:00 AM, William December Starr wrote: > In article <mqffq7$q28$1@dont-email.me>, > niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: > >> On 2015-08-12 05:13 PM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 08:48:49 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I say you have a life. You have a purpose in life. You live your >>>> life for that purpose. Therefore, that purpose is the center of >>>> your life which makes it your god. It does not have to be >>>> religious, but it's just as important to you as any religious >>>> belief to a theist. You would devote your life to serve and >>>> fulfil your purpose just like any theist would in serving their >>>> God/gods. >>> >>> That does not mean I will get on my knees and pray to it, nor will I >>> give alms to it or eat crackers because of it. >> >> Irrelevant. You still have a god who sits in the center of your >> life for you to devote your life in serving him or it, despite the >> fact you call yourself an atheist. People who call themselves >> atheists really have no idea what the word god really means. > > How do you get from "a purpose" to "a god" as if the words have > identical meaning? > > -- wds > When you devote your life to that purpose, you make it your god, if not permanently, at least temporarily. It depends on how grand the purpose sitting in the center of your life is and how devoted you can be.
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| From | bilgat@m.nu |
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| Date | 2015-08-12 23:59 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <319osa5bflrum6l1iosqa1caa9dcp57mne@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #513171 |
On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 10:39:23 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >On 2015-08-13 08:00 AM, William December Starr wrote: >> In article <mqffq7$q28$1@dont-email.me>, >> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >> >>> On 2015-08-12 05:13 PM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 08:48:49 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I say you have a life. You have a purpose in life. You live your >>>>> life for that purpose. Therefore, that purpose is the center of >>>>> your life which makes it your god. It does not have to be >>>>> religious, but it's just as important to you as any religious >>>>> belief to a theist. You would devote your life to serve and >>>>> fulfil your purpose just like any theist would in serving their >>>>> God/gods. >>>> >>>> That does not mean I will get on my knees and pray to it, nor will I >>>> give alms to it or eat crackers because of it. >>> >>> Irrelevant. You still have a god who sits in the center of your >>> life for you to devote your life in serving him or it, despite the >>> fact you call yourself an atheist. People who call themselves >>> atheists really have no idea what the word god really means. >> >> How do you get from "a purpose" to "a god" as if the words have >> identical meaning? >> >> -- wds >> > >When you devote your life to that purpose, you make it your god, if not >permanently, at least temporarily. It depends on how grand the purpose >sitting in the center of your life is and how devoted you can be. Or in your case just how mental you actually are
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-13 16:15 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mqhjkc$3v8$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #513187 |
On 2015-08-13 12:59 PM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: > On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 10:39:23 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: > >> On 2015-08-13 08:00 AM, William December Starr wrote: >>> In article <mqffq7$q28$1@dont-email.me>, >>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>> >>>> On 2015-08-12 05:13 PM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 08:48:49 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I say you have a life. You have a purpose in life. You live your >>>>>> life for that purpose. Therefore, that purpose is the center of >>>>>> your life which makes it your god. It does not have to be >>>>>> religious, but it's just as important to you as any religious >>>>>> belief to a theist. You would devote your life to serve and >>>>>> fulfil your purpose just like any theist would in serving their >>>>>> God/gods. >>>>> >>>>> That does not mean I will get on my knees and pray to it, nor will I >>>>> give alms to it or eat crackers because of it. >>>> >>>> Irrelevant. You still have a god who sits in the center of your >>>> life for you to devote your life in serving him or it, despite the >>>> fact you call yourself an atheist. People who call themselves >>>> atheists really have no idea what the word god really means. >>> >>> How do you get from "a purpose" to "a god" as if the words have >>> identical meaning? >>> >>> -- wds >>> >> >> When you devote your life to that purpose, you make it your god, if not >> permanently, at least temporarily. It depends on how grand the purpose >> sitting in the center of your life is and how devoted you can be. > > > Or in your case just how mental you actually are > Nothing I said has anything to do with being mental. It's just simple logic and common sense to show how close, how intimate, and how practical God is to everybody. God has been with you everyday, and you have been serving God with your pure unaltered devotion all your life, yet you haven't the slightest clue because you have brainwashed yourself to be an atheist. How terrible!
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| From | wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) |
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| Date | 2015-08-13 07:44 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mqhvur$mv5$1@panix2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #513171 |
In article <mqh080$g26$2@dont-email.me>, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: > William December Starr wrote: >> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: [ addressing bilgat@m.nu ] >>> Irrelevant. You still have a god who sits in the center of your >>> life for you to devote your life in serving him or it, despite >>> the fact you call yourself an atheist. People who call >>> themselves atheists really have no idea what the word god really >>> means. >> >> How do you get from "a purpose" to "a god" as if the words have >> identical meaning? > > When you devote your life to that purpose, you make it your god, > if not permanently, at least temporarily. It depends on how grand > the purpose sitting in the center of your life is and how devoted > you can be. (1) In your first sentence you make an absolutist statement, and then in the very next one you introduce situational "it depends on" qualifiers. (2) You appear to be asserting that everyone has a purpose that they devote their life to. Unless you count "continuing to exist" as a purpose, I don't believe that that is true. And even then, many people "devote" their lives to it only by default. -- wds
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-13 20:30 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mqi4cj$v8l$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #513221 |
On 2015-08-13 07:44 PM, William December Starr wrote: > In article <mqh080$g26$2@dont-email.me>, > niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: > >> William December Starr wrote: >>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: > > [ addressing bilgat@m.nu ] > >>>> Irrelevant. You still have a god who sits in the center of your >>>> life for you to devote your life in serving him or it, despite >>>> the fact you call yourself an atheist. People who call >>>> themselves atheists really have no idea what the word god really >>>> means. >>> >>> How do you get from "a purpose" to "a god" as if the words have >>> identical meaning? >> >> When you devote your life to that purpose, you make it your god, >> if not permanently, at least temporarily. It depends on how grand >> the purpose sitting in the center of your life is and how devoted >> you can be. > > (1) In your first sentence you make an absolutist statement, and > then in the very next one you introduce situational "it depends on" > qualifiers. > > (2) You appear to be asserting that everyone has a purpose that they > devote their life to. Unless you count "continuing to exist" as a > purpose, I don't believe that that is true. And even then, many > people "devote" their lives to it only by default. > > -- wds > The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. Any more god head you can think of in your atheist life?
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| From | wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) |
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| Date | 2015-08-13 09:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mqi5v0$8r6$1@panix2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #513234 |
In article <mqi4cj$v8l$2@dont-email.me>, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: > The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down > to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. Um, what definition is that? -- wds
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-14 17:30 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #513248 |
On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: > In article <mqi4cj$v8l$2@dont-email.me>, > niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: > >> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down >> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. > > Um, what definition is that? > > -- wds > By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the world of death. Those who live in fear of death involuntarily put themselves under the rule of the devil only to be threatened and terrorized. In reality, there is only God, and there is no devil. So people who live in fear of death are only terrorizing themselves.
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| From | "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-14 10:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <667e717f-1090-43ab-88b4-591d939f56a9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #513481 |
On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 3:01:54 AM UTC-7, niunian wrote: > On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: > > In article <mqi4cj$v8l$2@dont-email.me>, > > niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: > > > >> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down > >> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. > > > > Um, what definition is that? > > > > -- wds > > > > By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the world > of death. Reread Genesis. It explains that humans die because your god was afraid that Adam and Eve would eat of the tree of life and live for ever. That's also the reason they were supposedly kicked out of Eden. Mark L. Fergerson
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