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| First post | 2015-09-02 15:40 -0500 |
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Ping K Wills: What truth??? "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-02 15:40 -0500
Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 15:51 -0500
Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? ?s 4 K "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-02 16:19 -0500
Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? ?s 4 K "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 04:14 -0500
Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? Another ? 4 Mr. Disney Physics major "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-03 07:47 -0500
Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? Another ? 4 Mr. Disney Physics major moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-09-03 15:05 +0000
Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? Another ? 4 Mr. Disney Physics major "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-03 17:10 -0500
Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? Another ? 4 Mr. Disney Physics major Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-03 23:29 +0100
Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? Another ? 4 Mr. Disney Physics major "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-03 19:07 -0400
Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? Another ? 4 Mr. Disney Physics major "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-04 09:39 -0500
Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? Another ? 4 Mr. Disney Physics major "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-04 09:46 -0500
Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? Another ? 4 Mr. Disney Physics major Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-04 07:17 +0200
Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? Another ? 4 Mr. Disney Physics major Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-04 23:29 +0100
Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? Another ? 4 Mr. Disney Physics major "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 03:59 -0500
Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? Another ? 4 Mr. Disney Physics major Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-05 06:41 +0200
Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? Another ? 4 Mr. Disney Physics major Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-09-05 18:27 +0200
Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-03 05:38 -0400
Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 03:57 -0500
Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-04 10:00 -0500
Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 06:00 -0500
| From | "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> |
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| Date | 2015-09-02 15:40 -0500 |
| Subject | Ping K Wills: What truth??? |
| Message-ID | <xdidnZdz-4t7w3rInZ2dnUU7-VOdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
You stated in the following: From: "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.usenet.kooks,sci.physics Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 3:55 PM Subject: Re: 911 CrashPhysics REAL plane hits bldg/ falls to the ground. " Your admission that you can't counter the truth I posted is noted and accepted." Oh, and to those that just tuned in this was about the crash dynamics of the CGIs that flew into the Twin Towers. See: 911 CrashPhysics REAL plane hits bldg/ falls to the ground. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER6ZQUWvDFs or two see a better description of the bogus crash dynamics used on 9/11 see: Steve Grage & James Easton's PHYSICS 9/11 - THE NO PLANES MOVIE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1D1C94eE8U A note on the above video. James points out inconsistencies between what we saw on 9/11 and what we should have seen. Steve points out all sorts of things that help prove that the crash dynamics used in the 9/11 Prime Time Disney Presentation could not have happened in real life. ====================== Ok, now for your alleged truth. >> A four engine turboprop won't reach the same speed as a jet >>airliner. As such, there would never be the same inertia. Wing are made to support weight and not for ramming so it really doesn't matter how much inertia they had because real jets fly apart instead of disappear completely into buildings or into the ground like the stupid life sized Disney Cartoons they used at Pranksville, PA, the Disney script they used at the Pentagon and the Disney animations they used in Nuke York City. >> The plane had just taken off, so it would not have been at max >>speed. This further decreased the inertia present. How much "inertia" do you really think aluminum jets have in their wing tips. And as Bast has proven what happened to your alleged inertia from the tail section of the jet what was supposed to have left the following roadrunner cutout in the North Tower? See: http://cdn.rsvlts.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/s_a02_11114204-930x735.jpegAnd if you ever did a comparison between that roadrunner cutout and a real767 you would see not only is the roadrunner cutout in the North Towermissing the tail section it was even too short from end to end and that isthe reason why the Naudet Brothers tried to extend that cutout in theirvideo.>> I understand you have a learning disability, but it can't be as>>severe as you're presenting. You're acting, right?You are wrong again and what you are really dealing with is cognitivedissidence where you have lived a total lie for so long that you havetrouble with the truth. <G> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonanceRocky
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| From | "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-02 15:51 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <u9oeuap8karh5lbbjvlll905rdbp4inb3q@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #518596 |
On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 15:40:31 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>You stated in the following:
>
>From: "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com>
>Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.usenet.kooks,sci.physics
>Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 3:55 PM
>Subject: Re: 911 CrashPhysics REAL plane hits bldg/ falls to the ground.
>
>" Your admission that you can't counter the truth I posted is noted and
>accepted."
>
Please post the MID so that anyone with an interest can verify
the context.
>Oh, and to those that just tuned in this was about the crash dynamics of the
>CGIs that flew into the Twin Towers. See:
>
>911 CrashPhysics REAL plane hits bldg/ falls to the ground.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER6ZQUWvDFs
>
Already addressed.
>or two see a better description of the bogus crash dynamics used on 9/11
>see:
>
>Steve Grage & James Easton's PHYSICS 9/11 - THE NO PLANES MOVIE
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1D1C94eE8U
>
>A note on the above video.
>
>James points out inconsistencies between what we saw on 9/11 and what we
>should have seen.
>
What is most sad is that a few items presented are accurate, but
they are lost in all the bunk he presents.
>Steve points out all sorts of things that help prove that the crash dynamics
>used in the 9/11 Prime Time Disney Presentation could not have happened in
>real life.
>
No, he didn't. Steve clearly has no more than an high school
level understanding of physics.
>======================
>
>Ok, now for your alleged truth.
>
>>> A four engine turboprop won't reach the same speed as a jet
>>>airliner. As such, there would never be the same inertia.
>
>Wing are made to support weight and not for ramming so it really doesn't
>matter how much inertia they had because real jets fly apart instead of
>disappear completely into buildings or into the ground like the stupid life
>sized Disney Cartoons they used at Pranksville, PA, the Disney script they
>used at the Pentagon and the Disney animations they used in Nuke York City.
>
Again, you do not understand physics.
>
>>> The plane had just taken off, so it would not have been at max
>>>speed. This further decreased the inertia present.
>
>How much "inertia" do you really think aluminum jets have in their wing
>tips.
As much as the rest of the plane. DUH.
>And as Bast has proven what happened to your alleged inertia from the
>tail section of the jet what was supposed to have left the following
>roadrunner cutout in the North Tower? See:
>
> http://cdn.rsvlts.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/s_a02_11114204-930x735.jpegAnd if you ever did a comparison between that roadrunner cutout and a real767 you would see not only is the roadrunner cutout in the North Towermissing the tail section it was even too short from end to end and that isthe reason why the Naudet Brothers tried to extend that cutout in theirvideo.>> I understand you have a learning disability, but it can't be as>>severe as you're presenting. You're acting, right?You are wrong again and what you are really dealing with is cognitivedissidence where you have lived a total lie for so long that you havetrouble with the truth. <G> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonanceRocky
Please learn how to post links.
How is that whole ignoring my posts thing working out for you,
Rocky? <G>
--
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor
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| From | "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> |
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| Date | 2015-09-02 16:19 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? ?s 4 K |
| Message-ID | <RMWdnfG9i6Bm-nrInZ2dnUU7-YOdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #518600 |
"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message news:u9oeuap8karh5lbbjvlll905rdbp4inb3q@4ax.com... > On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 15:40:31 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote: > >>You stated in the following: >> >>From: "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> >>Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.usenet.kooks,sci.physics >>Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 3:55 PM >>Subject: Re: 911 CrashPhysics REAL plane hits bldg/ falls to the ground. >> >>" Your admission that you can't counter the truth I posted is noted and >>accepted." >> > > Please post the MID so that anyone with an interest can verify > the context. I quote your alleged truth below did I not? >>Oh, and to those that just tuned in this was about the crash dynamics of >>the >>CGIs that flew into the Twin Towers. See: >> >>911 CrashPhysics REAL plane hits bldg/ falls to the ground. >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER6ZQUWvDFs >> > > Already addressed. And I pointed out below that your assumptions were bogus >>or two see a better description of the bogus crash dynamics used on 9/11 >>see: >> >>Steve Grage & James Easton's PHYSICS 9/11 - THE NO PLANES MOVIE >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1D1C94eE8U >> >>A note on the above video. >> >>James points out inconsistencies between what we saw on 9/11 and what we >>should have seen. >> > > What is most sad is that a few items presented are accurate, but > they are lost in all the bunk he presents. To bad you can not be more precise because it looks to me like your real problem is you are dealing with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance >>Steve points out all sorts of things that help prove that the crash >>dynamics >>used in the 9/11 Prime Time Disney Presentation could not have happened in >>real life. >> > > No, he didn't. Steve clearly has no more than an high school > level understanding of physics. Ok, then lets see you show how airplane wings are built and that there are types of metal that bend and types that break and the Twin Towers should have bent before it broke. >>====================== >> >>Ok, now for your alleged truth. >> >>>> A four engine turboprop won't reach the same speed as a jet >>>>airliner. As such, there would never be the same inertia. >> >>Wing are made to support weight and not for ramming so it really doesn't >>matter how much inertia they had because real jets fly apart instead of >>disappear completely into buildings or into the ground like the stupid >>life >>sized Disney Cartoons they used at Pranksville, PA, the Disney script they >>used at the Pentagon and the Disney animations they used in Nuke York >>City. >> > > Again, you do not understand physics. Oh shit it's your 9/11 physics again or should I call your physics Disney Physics. I should have seen that coming. And why is it that there nobody will support the 9/11 physics other than clowns like you on the Internet? >>>> The plane had just taken off, so it would not have been at max >>>>speed. This further decreased the inertia present. >> >>How much "inertia" do you really think aluminum jets have in their wing >>tips. > > As much as the rest of the plane. DUH. > >>And as Bast has proven what happened to your alleged inertia from the >>tail section of the jet what was supposed to have left the following >>roadrunner cutout in the North Tower? See: >> >> http://cdn.rsvlts.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/s_a02_11114204-930x735.jpegAnd >> if you ever did a comparison between that roadrunner cutout and a real767 >> you would see not only is the roadrunner cutout in the North Towermissing >> the tail section it was even too short from end to end and that isthe >> reason why the Naudet Brothers tried to extend that cutout in >> theirvideo.>> I understand you have a learning disability, but it >> can't be as>>severe as you're presenting. You're acting, right?You are >> wrong again and what you are really dealing with is cognitivedissidence >> where you have lived a total lie for so long that you havetrouble with >> the truth. <G> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonanceRocky > > Please learn how to post links. Is that because you are not smart enough to figure out where links should end? <G> Besides you've seen her link and I see now because that link has a '-' it will have to be placed at the very end of this post so it is there. Now why didn't the tail section leave a cutout or end up on the ground? And while you are at it explain why the length from end to end is too short for a 767 and had to be lengthened in the Naudet Brother's video. <G> http://cdn.rsvlts.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/s_a02_11114204-930x735.jpeg
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| From | "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-09-03 04:14 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? ?s 4 K |
| Message-ID | <mq3gua9bpntjg7pvp4du6pll88n321r7nk@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #518607 |
On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 16:19:16 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:u9oeuap8karh5lbbjvlll905rdbp4inb3q@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 15:40:31 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>>You stated in the following:
>>>
>>>From: "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com>
>>>Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.usenet.kooks,sci.physics
>>>Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 3:55 PM
>>>Subject: Re: 911 CrashPhysics REAL plane hits bldg/ falls to the ground.
>>>
>>>" Your admission that you can't counter the truth I posted is noted and
>>>accepted."
>>>
>>
>> Please post the MID so that anyone with an interest can verify
>> the context.
>
>I quote your alleged truth below did I not?
>
You often try to change the context of a post when replying.
Please post the MID, lest people accept that you did it again.
>
>>>Oh, and to those that just tuned in this was about the crash dynamics of
>>>the CGIs that flew into the Twin Towers. See:
>>>
>>>911 CrashPhysics REAL plane hits bldg/ falls to the ground.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER6ZQUWvDFs
>>
>> Already addressed.
>
>And I pointed out below that your assumptions were bogus
>
You tried, and failed, to counter them. It's OK. When you start
from a losing position, failure is almost assured.
>>>or two see a better description of the bogus crash dynamics used on 9/11
>>>see:
>>>
>>>Steve Grage & James Easton's PHYSICS 9/11 - THE NO PLANES MOVIE
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1D1C94eE8U
>>>
>>>A note on the above video.
>>>
>>>James points out inconsistencies between what we saw on 9/11 and what we
>>>should have seen.
>>
>> What is most sad is that a few items presented are accurate, but
>> they are lost in all the bunk he presents.
>
>To bad you can not be more precise because it looks to me like your real
>problem is you are dealing with
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
Your use of projection makes me giggle.
Do it again, please.
>
>>>Steve points out all sorts of things that help prove that the crash
>>>dynamics
>>>used in the 9/11 Prime Time Disney Presentation could not have happened in
>>>real life.
>>
>> No, he didn't. Steve clearly has no more than an high school
>> level understanding of physics.
>
>Ok, then lets see you show how airplane wings are built and that there are
>types of metal that bend and types that break and the Twin Towers should
>have bent before it broke.
Learn about inertia and how it affects items like wings. Get back
to me once you've done so.
>
>>>======================
>>>
>>>Ok, now for your alleged truth.
>>>
>>>>> A four engine turboprop won't reach the same speed as a jet
>>>>>airliner. As such, there would never be the same inertia.
>>>
>>>Wing are made to support weight and not for ramming so it really doesn't
>>>matter how much inertia they had because real jets fly apart instead of
>>>disappear completely into buildings or into the ground like the stupid
>>>life
>>>sized Disney Cartoons they used at Pranksville, PA, the Disney script they
>>>used at the Pentagon and the Disney animations they used in Nuke York
>>>City.
>>
>> Again, you do not understand physics.
>
>Oh shit it's your 9/11 physics again or should I call your physics Disney
>Physics. I should have seen that coming.
>
You're the one taking the position that the laws of physics were
suspended during 9/11/01.
>And why is it that there nobody will support the 9/11 physics other than
>clowns like you on the Internet?
Since your physics didn't actually exist, the Internet is the
only place it can be supported. But, you'll note, it's only supported
by the mentally unstable. I have never supported your delusions that
the law of physics were suspended on 9/11.
>
>>>>> The plane had just taken off, so it would not have been at max
>>>>>speed. This further decreased the inertia present.
>>>
>>>How much "inertia" do you really think aluminum jets have in their wing
>>>tips.
>>
>> As much as the rest of the plane. DUH.
>>
>>>And as Bast has proven what happened to your alleged inertia from the
>>>tail section of the jet what was supposed to have left the following
>>>roadrunner cutout in the North Tower? See:
>>>
>>> http://cdn.rsvlts.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/s_a02_11114204-930x735.jpegAnd
>>> if you ever did a comparison between that roadrunner cutout and a real767
>>> you would see not only is the roadrunner cutout in the North Towermissing
>>> the tail section it was even too short from end to end and that isthe
>>> reason why the Naudet Brothers tried to extend that cutout in
>>> theirvideo.>> I understand you have a learning disability, but it
>>> can't be as>>severe as you're presenting. You're acting, right?You are
>>> wrong again and what you are really dealing with is cognitivedissidence
>>> where you have lived a total lie for so long that you havetrouble with
>>> the truth. <G> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonanceRocky
>>
>> Please learn how to post links.
>
>Is that because you are not smart enough to figure out where links should
>end? <G>
>
It is because it's your job to post properly. Sadly, your limited
intellect and other mental defects (I wish that were an insult rather
than a statement of fact) mean you don't know how.
>Besides you've seen her link and I see now because that link has a '-' it
>will have to be placed at the very end of this post so it is there.
>
If it's already been seen, what gain in there is posting it
again? Do you honestly think if you misrepresent what is shown enough
times, your lie will magically become the truth?
>Now why didn't the tail section leave a cutout or end up on the ground?
As before, I can see the marking from the rear stabilizer.
>And
>while you are at it explain why the length from end to end is too short for
>a 767 and had to be lengthened in the Naudet Brother's video. <G>
Since your claim is a lie, I can't. You may as well ask me to
explain why the Rockettes were dancing on the roof 10 minutes before
each building collapsed. It would have the same level of truth in it.
That is, none.
>
> http://cdn.rsvlts.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/s_a02_11114204-930x735.jpeg
Post a link to this picture and LIE about what is seen as often
as your mental defects (again, I honestly wish that were an insult)
demand. The truth you fear will not be altered as a result.
--
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor
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| From | "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> |
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| Date | 2015-09-03 07:47 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? Another ? 4 Mr. Disney Physics major |
| Message-ID | <XI-dnVwTvLEa3HXInZ2dnUU7-cmdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #518673 |
"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message news:mq3gua9bpntjg7pvp4du6pll88n321r7nk@4ax.com... > On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 16:19:16 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote: > > >>>>Steve Grage & James Easton's PHYSICS 9/11 - THE NO PLANES MOVIE >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1D1C94eE8U >>>> > > Learn about inertia and how it affects items like wings. Get back > to me once you've done so. Sure must have been neat to learn all you know about Physics from watching Disney Cartoons. BTW why didn't Flight 175 cast a shadow? <G> Rocky
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2015-09-03 15:05 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? Another ? 4 Mr. Disney Physics major |
| Message-ID | <ms9njp$mjm$2@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #518693 |
"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes: >"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message >news:mq3gua9bpntjg7pvp4du6pll88n321r7nk@4ax.com... >> >> Learn about inertia and how it affects items like wings. Get back >> to me once you've done so. >Sure must have been neat to learn all you know about Physics from watching >Disney Cartoons. And all those "tornado embeds straw into tree" stories are false as well.
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| From | "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> |
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| Date | 2015-09-03 17:10 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? Another ? 4 Mr. Disney Physics major |
| Message-ID | <7L6dnWc6KO36WHXInZ2dnUU7-TudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #518711 |
"Tony Dragon" <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:msadrp$2gb$1@dont-email.me... > On 03/09/2015 20:47, dmaster wrote: >> On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 10:05:31 AM UTC-5, Michael Moroney >> wrote: >>> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes: >>> >>>> "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:mq3gua9bpntjg7pvp4du6pll88n321r7nk@4ax.com... >>>>> >>>>> Learn about inertia and how it affects items like wings. Get back >>>>> to me once you've done so. >>> >>>> Sure must have been neat to learn all you know about Physics from >>>> watching >>>> Disney Cartoons. >>> >>> And all those "tornado embeds straw into tree" stories are false as >>> well. >> >> Not too long ago, someone posted a nice link to a video where a high >> speed ping pong ball blows a hole right through a paddle. Rocky's >> argument would be that there is no way a light-weight ping pong ball can >> possible break a hole through a much stronger paddle. Just one of those >> places where Rocky's "common sense" and Physics (or reality) do not >> correspond. >> >> Of course, this example made not even a dent in the Rocky's Shield of >> Screed (tm). >> >> Dan (Woj...) >> > > But you forget, this would be '911 physics'. Because NIST used cartoons to explain why WTC7 collapsed NIST was the party that proved Disney Physics were needed to explain a Disney Production where steel that should have slowly given up went straight down at Freefall speed. Let me say that again. Because NIST had to stoop to using cartoons to explain why WTC7 collapsed at freefall speed they were really telling us that 9/11 was just a life sized Disney cartoon with bogus jets where thermate was used for the roadrunner shaped holes. See: Steve Grage & James Easton's PHYSICS 9/11 - THE NO PLANES MOVIE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1D1C94eE8U Rocky
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| From | Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-03 23:29 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? Another ? 4 Mr. Disney Physics major |
| Message-ID | <msahhb$jjq$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #518778 |
On 03/09/2015 23:10, Rocky wrote: > "Tony Dragon" <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> wrote in message > news:msadrp$2gb$1@dont-email.me... >> On 03/09/2015 20:47, dmaster wrote: >>> On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 10:05:31 AM UTC-5, Michael Moroney >>> wrote: >>>> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes: >>>> >>>>> "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:mq3gua9bpntjg7pvp4du6pll88n321r7nk@4ax.com... >>>>>> >>>>>> Learn about inertia and how it affects items like wings. Get back >>>>>> to me once you've done so. >>>> >>>>> Sure must have been neat to learn all you know about Physics from >>>>> watching >>>>> Disney Cartoons. >>>> >>>> And all those "tornado embeds straw into tree" stories are false as >>>> well. >>> >>> Not too long ago, someone posted a nice link to a video where a high >>> speed ping pong ball blows a hole right through a paddle. Rocky's >>> argument would be that there is no way a light-weight ping pong ball can >>> possible break a hole through a much stronger paddle. Just one of those >>> places where Rocky's "common sense" and Physics (or reality) do not >>> correspond. >>> >>> Of course, this example made not even a dent in the Rocky's Shield of >>> Screed (tm). >>> >>> Dan (Woj...) >>> >> >> But you forget, this would be '911 physics'. > > Because NIST used cartoons to explain why WTC7 collapsed They did not, why are you lying? > NIST was the party > that proved Disney Physics were needed to explain a Disney Production where > steel that should have slowly given up went straight down at Freefall speed. > > Let me say that again. Because NIST had to stoop to using cartoons to > explain why WTC7 collapsed at freefall speed they were really telling us > that 9/11 was just a life sized Disney cartoon with bogus jets where > thermate was used for the roadrunner shaped holes. See: No the did not, why are you lying? > > Steve Grage & James Easton's PHYSICS 9/11 - THE NO PLANES MOVIE > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1D1C94eE8U > > Rocky > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
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| From | "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-09-03 19:07 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? Another ? 4 Mr. Disney Physics major |
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| In reply to | #518789 |
Tony Dragon wrote: > On 03/09/2015 23:10, Rocky wrote: >> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> wrote in message >> news:msadrp$2gb$1@dont-email.me... >>> On 03/09/2015 20:47, dmaster wrote: >>>> On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 10:05:31 AM UTC-5, Michael Moroney >>>> wrote: >>>>> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes: >>>>> >>>>>> "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:mq3gua9bpntjg7pvp4du6pll88n321r7nk@4ax.com... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Learn about inertia and how it affects items like wings. >>>>>>> Get back to me once you've done so. >>>>> >>>>>> Sure must have been neat to learn all you know about Physics from >>>>>> watching >>>>>> Disney Cartoons. >>>>> >>>>> And all those "tornado embeds straw into tree" stories are false as >>>>> well. >>>> >>>> Not too long ago, someone posted a nice link to a video where a high >>>> speed ping pong ball blows a hole right through a paddle. Rocky's >>>> argument would be that there is no way a light-weight ping pong ball >>>> can possible break a hole through a much stronger paddle. Just one >>>> of those places where Rocky's "common sense" and Physics (or >>>> reality) do not correspond. >>>> >>>> Of course, this example made not even a dent in the Rocky's Shield of >>>> Screed (tm). >>>> >>>> Dan (Woj...) >>>> >>> >>> But you forget, this would be '911 physics'. >> >> Because NIST used cartoons to explain why WTC7 collapsed > > They did not, why are you lying? Actually they did. All their proof was based on computer ANIMATIONS. Which they could create and manipulate any way hey wanted,....Just like Chuck Jones could make the road runner go right through a painted hole in a cliff wall. Reality didn't matter as long as the "research" reached the result they decided in advance. That type of psedo-science is done all the time. And after 9/11 it came in handy. Only thing they had to do was keep the models away from scrutiny of engineers who would have pointed out the modeling physics flaws instantly. .....And to this day no one has even been able to evaluate the programs they used.
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| From | "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> |
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| Date | 2015-09-04 09:39 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? Another ? 4 Mr. Disney Physics major |
| Message-ID | <Quidne9Ezso2MXTInZ2dnUU7-ROdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #518789 |
"Tony Dragon" <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:msahhb$jjq$1@dont-email.me... > On 03/09/2015 23:10, Rocky wrote: >> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> wrote in message >> news:msadrp$2gb$1@dont-email.me... >>> On 03/09/2015 20:47, dmaster wrote: >>>> On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 10:05:31 AM UTC-5, Michael Moroney >>>> wrote: >>>>> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes: >>>>> >>>>>> "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:mq3gua9bpntjg7pvp4du6pll88n321r7nk@4ax.com... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Learn about inertia and how it affects items like wings. Get >>>>>>> back >>>>>>> to me once you've done so. >>>>> >>>>>> Sure must have been neat to learn all you know about Physics from >>>>>> watching >>>>>> Disney Cartoons. >>>>> >>>>> And all those "tornado embeds straw into tree" stories are false as >>>>> well. >>>> >>>> Not too long ago, someone posted a nice link to a video where a high >>>> speed ping pong ball blows a hole right through a paddle. Rocky's >>>> argument would be that there is no way a light-weight ping pong ball >>>> can >>>> possible break a hole through a much stronger paddle. Just one of those >>>> places where Rocky's "common sense" and Physics (or reality) do not >>>> correspond. >>>> >>>> Of course, this example made not even a dent in the Rocky's Shield of >>>> Screed (tm). >>>> >>>> Dan (Woj...) >>>> >>> >>> But you forget, this would be '911 physics'. >> >> Because NIST used cartoons to explain why WTC7 collapsed > > They did not, why are you lying? ROTFLMAO because you didn't suspect NIST was using cartoons because they didn't use a lot of bright colors in their animations. >> NIST was the party >> that proved Disney Physics were needed to explain a Disney Production >> where >> steel that should have slowly given up went straight down at Freefall >> speed. >> >> Let me say that again. Because NIST had to stoop to using cartoons to >> explain why WTC7 collapsed at freefall speed they were really telling us >> that 9/11 was just a life sized Disney cartoon with bogus jets where >> thermate was used for the roadrunner shaped holes. See: > > No the did not, why are you lying? ROTFLMAO because you didn't suspect NIST was using cartoons because they didn't use a lot of bright colors in their animations. Boy they sure fooled you, K and BKD. >> Steve Grage & James Easton's PHYSICS 9/11 - THE NO PLANES MOVIE >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1D1C94eE8U Rocky
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| From | "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> |
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| Date | 2015-09-04 09:46 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? Another ? 4 Mr. Disney Physics major |
| Message-ID | <INednQTsip3fM3TInZ2dnUU7-LGdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #518778 |
<edrhodes@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44b50b34-8a58-4c13-b7eb-2f759246fbfd@googlegroups.com... > On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 6:10:49 PM UTC-4, Rocky wrote: >> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> wrote in message >> news:msadrp$2gb$1@dont-email.me... >> > On 03/09/2015 20:47, dmaster wrote: >> >> On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 10:05:31 AM UTC-5, Michael Moroney >> >> wrote: >> >>> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes: >> >>> >> >>>> "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message >> >>>> news:mq3gua9bpntjg7pvp4du6pll88n321r7nk@4ax.com... >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Learn about inertia and how it affects items like wings. Get >> >>>>> back >> >>>>> to me once you've done so. >> >>> >> >>>> Sure must have been neat to learn all you know about Physics from >> >>>> watching >> >>>> Disney Cartoons. >> >>> >> >>> And all those "tornado embeds straw into tree" stories are false as >> >>> well. >> >> >> >> Not too long ago, someone posted a nice link to a video where a high >> >> speed ping pong ball blows a hole right through a paddle. Rocky's >> >> argument would be that there is no way a light-weight ping pong ball >> >> can >> >> possible break a hole through a much stronger paddle. Just one of >> >> those >> >> places where Rocky's "common sense" and Physics (or reality) do not >> >> correspond. >> >> >> >> Of course, this example made not even a dent in the Rocky's Shield of >> >> Screed (tm). >> >> >> >> Dan (Woj...) >> >> >> > >> > But you forget, this would be '911 physics'. >> >> Because NIST used cartoons to explain why WTC7 collapsed NIST was the >> party >> that proved Disney Physics were needed to explain a Disney Production >> where >> steel that should have slowly given up went straight down at Freefall >> speed. >> >> Let me say that again. Because NIST had to stoop to using cartoons to >> explain why WTC7 collapsed at freefall speed they were really telling us >> that 9/11 was just a life sized Disney cartoon with bogus jets where >> thermate was used for the roadrunner shaped holes. See: > > Was NIST expected to build another WTC7 AND another Tower and crash a > plane into the new Tower so it would collapse into the new WTC7 so IT > would collapse the same way? Is THAT what you were expecting? NIST built a life sized floor of the Twin Towers only to find out lies and cartoons worked better for their hypothesis than real life. And NIST tried to build a scale model of WTC7 and again found out a second time that manipulating cartoons gave them what they wanted. And the fact NIST failed to put the building north of WTC7 into the equation proves their story about WTC7 was a lie to start with. Rocky
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| From | Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> |
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| Date | 2015-09-04 07:17 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? Another ? 4 Mr. Disney Physics major |
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| In reply to | #518693 |
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> Rocky (aka Roger Wittekind the schizophrenic paranoid-delusional woman-stalking failed truck driver), in <news:XI-dnVwTvLEa3HXInZ2dnUU7-cmdnZ2d@giganews.com> did thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again: > "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:mq3gua9bpntjg7pvp4du6pll88n321r7nk@4ax.com... >> Learn about inertia and how it affects items like wings. Get back >> to me once you've done so. > Sure must have been neat to learn all you know about Physics from watching > Disney Cartoons. Too bad you're too fucking stupid to understand even cartoon physics, let alone physics in the real world. A Boeing plane wing strength test: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ai2HmvAXcU0> The wing went to 154% of the stresses possible in any flight situation. IOW, you could dive the thing at 600 MPH and pull out at 5 G, and the wings would survive... how do we know this? Because it's happened. Look up China Airlines Flight 006. Also research the Empire State Building airplane crash... a 10-ton Mitchell B-25 bomber at a much lower speed, not as strongly built as modern aircraft, crashed into the Empire State Building... a grid-constructed building of *much* stronger construction than the WTC towers. And it ripped a hole right through that building's outer wall (in fact,the main fuselage impact hole was spread over two floors, so the plane ripped through the flooring structural steel) and in fact some parts went right through the entire building. Exactly as happened at the WTC towers. The Empire State Building stood because it had asbestos fireproofing, plentiful structural concrete, and was of the much stronger grid construction. <http://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.com/2012/09/american-airlines-77-hit-pentagon.html> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4q35xHzjxB0> Note how the F-4 Phantom jet at 500 MPH punches through the 3.66 meters thick concrete wall. Note especially the side view at 0:36 showing the wing slicing through the concrete. You'll note the plane turns to confetti, concentrates its force in a very small area, and punches through that very small area. Remember, both the thickness and the grade of steel used in the WTC towers went down as the height of the building increased. At the top, the outer truss frame members were A36 steel of only 1/4" thick. Where the first plane hit it was likely on 5/16" thick. And those truss frame members were spaced 6 feet 8 inches apart. Not a lot of metal to punch through at all. Now, for the kooks who are still disbelievers... <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc-zmb3jAgo> A ping-pong ball fired through a ping-pong paddle. Now, you're saying "Oh, but that's just a *plastic* paddle"... <http://www.popularmechanics.com/adventure/a8683/behold-the-900-mph-supersonic-ping-pong-bazooka-15097897/> Ping-pong ball through a plywood paddle. You moron. LOL > BTW why didn't Flight 175 cast a shadow? <G> Your retarded brain believes every stupid goddamned thing you read on the internet or watch on YouTube. If you could afford a TV, you'd be the world's biggest "TV Hugger", you pathetic moronic piece of shit. Uh oh... what's this, you fucking retard? <http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/salter/review.html> <http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/salter/summaryimages/shadowsequence.jpg> Oh, is that a high-resolution high-framerate sequence of photos that prove you're a delusional retard? Yeah, it is. Take your meds, Roger. Moron. LOL > Rocky Now, get to addressing the 20 ways your kook conspiracy theory violates the laws of physics: ====================================================== 1) Your estimation of the time between detonation and the time of collapse puts the nukes between from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* deep below the towers, a depth we don't even have the technology to drill to today, let alone back in 1968. Not to mention the fact that at that depth, the temperature is so high things like metal *melt*. That's *why* we can't drill much deeper than the 7.636 miles of the Al Shaheen oil well in Qatar (the deepest hole *ever* dug in human history)... the equipment fails. That's why the Kola Superdeep Borehole was abandoned at 7.619 miles deep. 2) The claimed "EMP pulse" in the WCBS video *you* provided wasn't an EMP pulse at all, it was satellite uplink interference. If it'd been a nuke EMP (especially one sized 150 kt), the nanosecond time frame of the explosion (and thus the sharp peak of the EMP) would have caused the camera's electronics to burn out. No amount of shielding would have been sufficient to prevent that. That there is video of the immediate aftermath proves there was no nuke, especially one sized your claimed 150 kt, which would have destroyed all electronics for dozens of miles radius. 3) The radiation experienced was of such short duration that there's no way it was neutron or gamma bombardment from a nuke. If it had been from a nuke the metal in the buildings would have shown high levels of radioactivity for decades. It was found to be beta radiation from the tritium in the aircraft exit signs and law enforcement weapon sights that was the source. That you're gullible enough not to know that a nuke would spread radiation far and wide is testament to how delusional you are. 4) No nuclear detonation byproducts were found at the WTC complex or anywhere in NYC (MID: <e62c14c89ab831a63f27243e265c711a@dizum.com>). They found tritium from the aircraft exit signs and law enforcement weapons sites, radium from industrial sources unrelated to nuclear weapons and background levels for all other sources of radiation. 5) The seismic waves caused by a small 150 kt nuke wouldn't be sufficient to drop the buildings, it'd barely even be felt by people in the vicinity, especially with the bombs buried, as you k'lamed, from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* deep. It would take on the order of 2 MEGAtons to do so, especially at the depths you k'lame the bombs were buried. 6) The trigger that sets off the nuclear explosion is a neutron source. It naturally radioactively decays over time, and its decay byproducts, the elements the neutron source transmutes into as it decays, include xenon, which is a neutron absorber. It's called xenon poisoning. Any bomb that has sat for 33 years without its trigger being replenished will not have a trigger that is viable to start any sort of nuclear chain reaction. 7) I've provided a video from *inside* one of the towers *as* *it* *was* *collapsing*, showing the vibration from the buckling vertical support column and *NO* EMP: ====================== <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xYjoSvzWeo> You'll note the massive shaking from the central support column buckling, but *NO* EMP. And that was INSIDE the WTC tower. No amount of shielding would have saved that camera from a nuke EMP. ====================== 8) Why aren't you explaining how those supposed nukes were going to survive at a depth of 37.28 miles (where the temperature would be approximately 960 degrees F) to 96.93 miles (where the temperature would be approximately 1840 degrees F), Ko0K? 9) Explain how a nuclear weapon can direct its explosion through a hole without any of the compressive blast going out into surrounding rock. 10) Explain how 19 nukes (according to you, another leap of logic taken by your broken brain to explain away the 19 instances of satellite uplink interference in the video *you* provided) were detonated at the WTC complex in rapid succession, yet no ill effects were experienced by electronics, the electrical grid or aircraft. 11) Why aren't you explaining how the personnel you claim were sent down to service those nukes (because now that you know the neutron-source triggers for nuclear weapons require replacement on a periodic basis, your broken brain *had* to construct an entire facility at 37.28 to 96.93 miles deep (far deeper than we have the technology to dig even today, let alone back in 1968), complete with "4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back into the area the nukes were maintained", or your brain would have been forced to admit it was wrong when it told you those nukes sat untouched for 33 years and maintained their viability) are supposed to survive in 960 to 1840 degree heat? 12) You admitted (MID:<ed75e9d6f7ccf7296c075fd695673a37@dizum.com>) that all the materials used in construction of the twin towers (all 1.5 million tons of it) had been accounted for and trucked off to the Fresh Kills landfill. How will you reconcile your admission with your kook blather that significant percentages of the buildings "vaporized" (your word) and "floated toward Europe" (your words)? 13) Why can't you provide proof of the nuclear explosion seismic signatures for these 19 nukes you k'lame were detonated at the WTC site on 11 Sep 2001? 14) Where were the vertically-directed plumes of dust and debris kicked up from your claimed nuclear weapons being detonated deep underground, Ko0K? 15) Explain how the 19 nukes you claimed to have existed could have tunneled holes from the underground installation 37.28 to 96.93 miles deep that you claimed to have existed, to directly under the WTC complex... in 12 seconds... through solid bedrock... prior to detonating directly below the WTC towers (which, of course, fucks up your timing between the detonations you claim took place (for which you used the WCBS video, claiming the satellite uplink interference was "EMP") and the collapses, leading you back to where your delusion started. Congratulations, Dimwit, you've made the full circuit on The Island of Insanity. Now go 'round again.). 16) Explain why you're now saying there were 34 nukes (MID:<345fee8b286a91037bc806ed589d182d@dizum.com>), as opposed to your previously k'lamed 19 nukes (and your previously, previously k'lamed 3 nukes)... would it be because your broken little brain is squirming under the scorching twin beams of truth and reality, screaming in agony at its being forced to see just how delusional it truly is? While you're at it, get to explaining how the regular rad sweeps (radiological surveys) at the twin towers (because the space was primarily rented by government agencies) showed no nukes or any contamination whatsoever, and how 34 nukes were obtained and put in place without drawing any attention whatsoever. Of course, this *still* fucks up your timing between the detonations (ie: your claimed "EMP" on the WCBS video) and the collapses, leading you back to where your delusion started... that unresolvable logic hole rears its ugly head again. LOL 17) Your broken brain is yet again expanding your delusion with your "34 or more nukes" blather (you're now saying there were 65 nukes (MID: <984122ddbf1e4e5d6f5a7b3f56eeeb6f@dizum.com>))... eventually, your broken brain will be telling you that NYC today is a CGI and the real city was blown up by 1,592,629,490,173,371,449,138,916,004,581,949 intelligent nano-nukes which autonomously dug their way up from their secret underground MoleMan base 15,682,941 miles below the surface of our hollow planet and attached themselves to every steel part of every building in NYC and vaporized them and they all floated down to MoleVille, and the fact that the EMP from all those nukes detonating at once didn't burn out every electrical generating station, electrical substation, every piece of electronic equipment, every vehicle, every aircraft... that's *proof* that NYC is a CGI today! LOL 18) Explain how a nuclear weapon wouldn't have nuclear detonation byproducts with the right nuclear trigger, according to your words "with the right detonator you could have a 'clean' nuke" (MID: <43acc7488b179f3bfea83ef7076f92b9@dizum.com>). 19) Now you're saying the OKC bombing was nuclear in nature (MID: <e3f0e4f638e69c3db43076c8b842db91@dizum.com>), and a new era of widespread nuclear terrorism has arrived... proof positive that you're off your meds, Roger Wittekind. 20) Now you're saying the Ogallala Aquifer is radioactive (what's that got to do with the WTC?)... with absolutely no proof... all you have is the paranoid delusional rantings of other schizophrenics like you. Do you see how utterly ridiculous you're beginning to sound? Get back on your meds, you delusional loon. ====================================================== There are now 20 ways your kook konspiracy theory violates the laws of physics... now you'd better get to work addressing each one, point by point, or people are gonna know you're just a retard who can't grasp simple physics. Kook. LOL -- Roger T.E. Wittekind PO Box 471 167 40th Avenue East Moline, IL 61244 309-755-6374 309-755-6394 Roger Wittekind the woman-stalking failed truck driver from East Moline, IL. Roger Wittekind (aka Rocky), your brain is grasping at straws in trying to avoid admitting *you* *are* *wrong*, and as your brain becomes more and more desperate to avoid the truth we promulgate (which utterly demolishes your kook conspiracy theory), it makes larger and larger leaps of illogic. For instance: ============================= A) You said the satellite uplink inteference seen in the WCBS video *you* *provided* was a nuke EMP, so your broken brain told you they must have buried nukes under the twin towers. Being a simpleton, you believed they just dug shallow holes, dropped the nukes in, smoothed over the concrete and walked away for 33 years. B) Your timing on the WCBS video *you* *provided* between the satellite uplink interference (what you deemed to be a "nuke EMP") and the tower shaking being 12 seconds (it was actually 14 seconds, but kooks can't count) means your supposed nukes had to have been buried from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* below the surface (dependent upon soil composition and thus speed of compressive blast transmission). Never mind that we don't have the technology to drill that deep even today, let alone in 1968. Your broken brain had to yet again change your kooky little conspiracy theory to at least try to orient itself at some acute angle to reality. So no "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years" anymore, now it was "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years". C) You're such a simpleton you didn't realize nukes require periodic replacement of their neutron-source trigger, which naturally radioactively decays over time, building up the decay byproduct xenon, which absorbs neutrons. It's called xenon poisoning. So your broken brain told you that someone had to service those nukes to keep the triggers viable... which means your broken brain was thus *forced* to change from "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "built an entire *facility* impossibly deep under the WTC, complete with service personnel and" "4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back into the area the nukes were maintained" (your words). D) Your broken brain then said there were 19 nukes instead of your original 3, because you knew there were 19 instances of satellite uplink interference in the WCBS video *you* *provided*, in which you k'lamed one of the instances of satellite uplink interference was an EMP. And if you k'lame one of them is an EMP, they *all* must be EMPs, so your broken brain now tells you there were 19 nukes detonated in rapid succession... completely ignoring the fact that even one nuke detonation would plunge the city into darkness due to EMP burning out electrical substations, and completely ignoring the fact that no nuclear detonation byproducts were found in the rubble, in the vicinity of the rubble, or anywhere in NYC. E) Now that your broken brain was convinced that the nukes were buried deeply, of course, they had a very wide blast radius, which screwed up your kooky k'lame that they were used to demolish WTC1 and WTC2, but somehow missed WTC3 and WTC4... so your broken brain conceived that the nuclear weapons could somehow dig themselves up from that miles-deep facility to just below the WTC towers prior to exploding, in order to make their cone of destruction smaller. Nevermind that your broken brain said they dug through 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* of *solid* *bedrock* in *12* *seconds*. LOL F) So I've led you by the nose in a full circle... if those bombs your broken brain is telling you existed *did* dig their way up to underneath the WTC twin towers before detonating (they didn't... first because there were no nukes, second because it'd be impossible, but for the sake of argument, we'll continue), that leads right back to your calculation of the time between your claimed "EMP" (the satellite uplink interference on the WCBS video *you* *provided*) and the time the building shook, which is pretty much where we started. So I've proven by drop-kicking your retarded ass around the perimeter of sanity full-circle that you're insane. LOL G) Realizing the utter ridiculousness of your kook blather above, your broken brain has backpedaled and expanded your delusion even more as a desperate attempt at attaining some semblance of plausibility... saying there were 34 mini-nukes, and they were within and underneath the twin towers. If those 34 nukes you claim existed *did* explode, where are the nuclear detonation byproducts? The highly radioactive metal? The radiation burns and radiation sickness of people in the vicinity? Where are the nuclear detonation signature seismographs? Why did the electrical grid, all electronics and all vehicles survive not just one but *34* nuclear EMPs? And what about that timing between the WCBS video satellite uplink interference (what you claimed was "EMP") and the shaking of the tower? That's now off by 14 whole seconds, just as it was when your kooky conspiracy theory began. LOL H) Now you're saying the OKC bombing was nuclear in nature (MID: <e3f0e4f638e69c3db43076c8b842db91@dizum.com>), and a new era of widespread nuclear terrorism has arrived... proof positive that you're off your meds, Roget Wittekind. I) To back up yor "nuclear terrorism era" k'lame in H) above, you're now further k'laming there is such a thing as a magical "detonator" that causes a nuclear weapon to be a "clean nuke" which expulses no EMP and leaves no radiological contamination... heaping proof upon proof that you're off your meds, Roger Wittekind. IOW, your broken brain is far too stupid to discern fantasy from reality, so you've caught yourself in an unresolvable logic hole. And the harder you try to resolve it, the more you run around in little tard-circles, banging your head with your fist and doing your very best Rainman impersonation. I can twist your brain into a Gordian Knot with my knowledge. And I've just barely even started, I haven't even worked up a sweat yet. ============================= Kook. LOL
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| From | Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-04 23:29 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? Another ? 4 Mr. Disney Physics major |
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On 04/09/2015 06:17, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote: > Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> > > Rocky (aka Roger Wittekind the schizophrenic paranoid-delusional > woman-stalking failed truck driver), in > <news:XI-dnVwTvLEa3HXInZ2dnUU7-cmdnZ2d@giganews.com> did thusly jump > head first into the wood chipper again: > >> "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:mq3gua9bpntjg7pvp4du6pll88n321r7nk@4ax.com... > >>> Learn about inertia and how it affects items like wings. Get back >>> to me once you've done so. > >> Sure must have been neat to learn all you know about Physics from watching >> Disney Cartoons. > > Too bad you're too fucking stupid to understand even cartoon physics, > let alone physics in the real world. > > A Boeing plane wing strength test: > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ai2HmvAXcU0> > The wing went to 154% of the stresses possible in any flight > situation. IOW, you could dive the thing at 600 MPH and pull out at 5 > G, and the wings would survive... how do we know this? Because it's > happened. Look up China Airlines Flight 006. > > Also research the Empire State Building airplane crash... a 10-ton > Mitchell B-25 bomber at a much lower speed, not as strongly built as > modern aircraft, crashed into the Empire State Building... a > grid-constructed building of *much* stronger construction than the WTC > towers. And it ripped a hole right through that building's outer wall > (in fact,the main fuselage impact hole was spread over two floors, so > the plane ripped through the flooring structural steel) and in fact > some parts went right through the entire building. Exactly as happened > at the WTC towers. The Empire State Building stood because it had > asbestos fireproofing, plentiful structural concrete, and was of the > much stronger grid construction. > > <http://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.com/2012/09/american-airlines-77-hit-pentagon.html> > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4q35xHzjxB0> > Note how the F-4 Phantom jet at 500 MPH punches through the 3.66 > meters thick concrete wall. Note especially the side view at 0:36 > showing the wing slicing through the concrete. You'll note the plane > turns to confetti, concentrates its force in a very small area, and > punches through that very small area. > > Remember, both the thickness and the grade of steel used in the WTC > towers went down as the height of the building increased. At the top, > the outer truss frame members were A36 steel of only 1/4" thick. Where > the first plane hit it was likely on 5/16" thick. And those truss > frame members were spaced 6 feet 8 inches apart. Not a lot of metal to > punch through at all. > > Now, for the kooks who are still disbelievers... > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc-zmb3jAgo> > A ping-pong ball fired through a ping-pong paddle. > > Now, you're saying "Oh, but that's just a *plastic* paddle"... > <http://www.popularmechanics.com/adventure/a8683/behold-the-900-mph-supersonic-ping-pong-bazooka-15097897/> > Ping-pong ball through a plywood paddle. > > You moron. LOL > >> BTW why didn't Flight 175 cast a shadow? <G> > > Your retarded brain believes every stupid goddamned thing you read on > the internet or watch on YouTube. If you could afford a TV, you'd be > the world's biggest "TV Hugger", you pathetic moronic piece of shit. > > Uh oh... what's this, you fucking retard? > <http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/salter/review.html> > <http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/salter/summaryimages/shadowsequence.jpg> > > Oh, is that a high-resolution high-framerate sequence of photos that > prove you're a delusional retard? Yeah, it is. Take your meds, Roger. > > Moron. LOL > >> Rocky > > Now, get to addressing the 20 ways your kook conspiracy theory > violates the laws of physics: > > ====================================================== > 1) Your estimation of the time between detonation and the time of > collapse puts the nukes between from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* deep below > the towers, a depth we don't even have the technology to drill to > today, let alone back in 1968. Not to mention the fact that at that > depth, the temperature is so high things like metal *melt*. That's > *why* we can't drill much deeper than the 7.636 miles of the Al > Shaheen oil well in Qatar (the deepest hole *ever* dug in human > history)... the equipment fails. That's why the Kola Superdeep > Borehole was abandoned at 7.619 miles deep. > > 2) The claimed "EMP pulse" in the WCBS video *you* provided wasn't an > EMP pulse at all, it was satellite uplink interference. If it'd been a > nuke EMP (especially one sized 150 kt), the nanosecond time frame of > the explosion (and thus the sharp peak of the EMP) would have caused > the camera's electronics to burn out. No amount of shielding would > have been sufficient to prevent that. That there is video of the > immediate aftermath proves there was no nuke, especially one sized > your claimed 150 kt, which would have destroyed all electronics for > dozens of miles radius. > > 3) The radiation experienced was of such short duration that there's > no way it was neutron or gamma bombardment from a nuke. If it had been > from a nuke the metal in the buildings would have shown high levels of > radioactivity for decades. It was found to be beta radiation from the > tritium in the aircraft exit signs and law enforcement weapon sights > that was the source. That you're gullible enough not to know that a > nuke would spread radiation far and wide is testament to how > delusional you are. > > 4) No nuclear detonation byproducts were found at the WTC complex or > anywhere in NYC (MID: <e62c14c89ab831a63f27243e265c711a@dizum.com>). > They found tritium from the aircraft exit signs and law enforcement > weapons sites, radium from industrial sources unrelated to nuclear > weapons and background levels for all other sources of radiation. > > 5) The seismic waves caused by a small 150 kt nuke wouldn't be > sufficient to drop the buildings, it'd barely even be felt by people > in the vicinity, especially with the bombs buried, as you k'lamed, > from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* deep. It would take on the order of 2 > MEGAtons to do so, especially at the depths you k'lame the bombs were > buried. > > 6) The trigger that sets off the nuclear explosion is a neutron > source. It naturally radioactively decays over time, and its decay > byproducts, the elements the neutron source transmutes into as it > decays, include xenon, which is a neutron absorber. It's called xenon > poisoning. Any bomb that has sat for 33 years without its trigger > being replenished will not have a trigger that is viable to start any > sort of nuclear chain reaction. > > 7) I've provided a video from *inside* one of the towers *as* *it* > *was* *collapsing*, showing the vibration from the buckling vertical > support column and *NO* EMP: > ====================== > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xYjoSvzWeo> > You'll note the massive shaking from the central support column > buckling, but *NO* EMP. And that was INSIDE the WTC tower. No amount > of shielding would have saved that camera from a nuke EMP. > ====================== > > 8) Why aren't you explaining how those supposed nukes were going to > survive at a depth of 37.28 miles (where the temperature would be > approximately 960 degrees F) to 96.93 miles (where the temperature > would be approximately 1840 degrees F), Ko0K? > > 9) Explain how a nuclear weapon can direct its explosion through a > hole without any of the compressive blast going out into surrounding > rock. > > 10) Explain how 19 nukes (according to you, another leap of logic > taken by your broken brain to explain away the 19 instances of > satellite uplink interference in the video *you* provided) were > detonated at the WTC complex in rapid succession, yet no ill effects > were experienced by electronics, the electrical grid or aircraft. > > 11) Why aren't you explaining how the personnel you claim were sent > down to service those nukes (because now that you know the > neutron-source triggers for nuclear weapons require replacement on a > periodic basis, your broken brain *had* to construct an entire > facility at 37.28 to 96.93 miles deep (far deeper than we have the > technology to dig even today, let alone back in 1968), complete with > "4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back into the area > the nukes were maintained", or your brain would have been forced to > admit it was wrong when it told you those nukes sat untouched for 33 > years and maintained their viability) are supposed to survive in 960 > to 1840 degree heat? > > 12) You admitted (MID:<ed75e9d6f7ccf7296c075fd695673a37@dizum.com>) > that all the materials used in construction of the twin towers (all > 1.5 million tons of it) had been accounted for and trucked off to the > Fresh Kills landfill. How will you reconcile your admission with your > kook blather that significant percentages of the buildings "vaporized" > (your word) and "floated toward Europe" (your words)? > > 13) Why can't you provide proof of the nuclear explosion seismic > signatures for these 19 nukes you k'lame were detonated at the WTC > site on 11 Sep 2001? > > 14) Where were the vertically-directed plumes of dust and debris > kicked up from your claimed nuclear weapons being detonated deep > underground, Ko0K? > > 15) Explain how the 19 nukes you claimed to have existed could have > tunneled holes from the underground installation 37.28 to 96.93 miles > deep that you claimed to have existed, to directly under the WTC > complex... in 12 seconds... through solid bedrock... prior to > detonating directly below the WTC towers (which, of course, fucks up > your timing between the detonations you claim took place (for which > you used the WCBS video, claiming the satellite uplink interference > was "EMP") and the collapses, leading you back to where your delusion > started. Congratulations, Dimwit, you've made the full circuit on The > Island of Insanity. Now go 'round again.). > > 16) Explain why you're now saying there were 34 nukes > (MID:<345fee8b286a91037bc806ed589d182d@dizum.com>), as opposed to your > previously k'lamed 19 nukes (and your previously, previously k'lamed 3 > nukes)... would it be because your broken little brain is squirming > under the scorching twin beams of truth and reality, screaming in > agony at its being forced to see just how delusional it truly is? > While you're at it, get to explaining how the regular rad sweeps > (radiological surveys) at the twin towers (because the space was > primarily rented by government agencies) showed no nukes or any > contamination whatsoever, and how 34 nukes were obtained and put in > place without drawing any attention whatsoever. Of course, this > *still* fucks up your timing between the detonations (ie: your claimed > "EMP" on the WCBS video) and the collapses, leading you back to where > your delusion started... that unresolvable logic hole rears its ugly > head again. LOL > > 17) Your broken brain is yet again expanding your delusion with your > "34 or more nukes" blather (you're now saying there were 65 nukes > (MID: <984122ddbf1e4e5d6f5a7b3f56eeeb6f@dizum.com>))... eventually, > your broken brain will be telling you that NYC today is a CGI and the > real city was blown up by > 1,592,629,490,173,371,449,138,916,004,581,949 intelligent nano-nukes > which autonomously dug their way up from their secret underground > MoleMan base 15,682,941 miles below the surface of our hollow planet > and attached themselves to every steel part of every building in NYC > and vaporized them and they all floated down to MoleVille, and the > fact that the EMP from all those nukes detonating at once didn't burn > out every electrical generating station, electrical substation, every > piece of electronic equipment, every vehicle, every aircraft... that's > *proof* that NYC is a CGI today! LOL > > 18) Explain how a nuclear weapon wouldn't have nuclear detonation > byproducts with the right nuclear trigger, according to your words > "with the right detonator you could have a 'clean' nuke" (MID: > <43acc7488b179f3bfea83ef7076f92b9@dizum.com>). > > 19) Now you're saying the OKC bombing was nuclear in nature (MID: > <e3f0e4f638e69c3db43076c8b842db91@dizum.com>), and a new era of > widespread nuclear terrorism has arrived... proof positive that you're > off your meds, Roger Wittekind. > > 20) Now you're saying the Ogallala Aquifer is radioactive (what's that > got to do with the WTC?)... with absolutely no proof... all you have > is the paranoid delusional rantings of other schizophrenics like you. > > Do you see how utterly ridiculous you're beginning to sound? Get back > on your meds, you delusional loon. > ====================================================== > > There are now 20 ways your kook konspiracy theory violates the laws of > physics... now you'd better get to work addressing each one, point by > point, or people are gonna know you're just a retard who can't grasp > simple physics. > > Kook. LOL > I think Rocky is ignoring you. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
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| From | "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-04 03:59 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? Another ? 4 Mr. Disney Physics major |
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On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 07:47:26 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:mq3gua9bpntjg7pvp4du6pll88n321r7nk@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 16:19:16 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>Steve Grage & James Easton's PHYSICS 9/11 - THE NO PLANES MOVIE
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1D1C94eE8U
>>
>> Learn about inertia and how it affects items like wings. Get back
>> to me once you've done so.
>
>Sure must have been neat to learn all you know about Physics from watching
>Disney Cartoons.
>
I've taken several physics classes. While I am not even close to
Hawking's level, it's clear I understand more than you.
What did you learn of physics? Clearly very little.
>BTW why didn't Flight 175 cast a shadow? <G>
It did. Why are you LYING about it?
How is that whole ignoring my posts thing working out for you,
Rocky?
--
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor
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| From | Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> |
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| Date | 2015-09-05 06:41 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? Another ? 4 Mr. Disney Physics major |
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| In reply to | #518693 |
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> Rocky (aka Roger Wittekind the schizophrenic paranoid-delusional woman-stalking failed truck driver), in <news:XI-dnVwTvLEa3HXInZ2dnUU7-cmdnZ2d@giganews.com> did thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again: > Sure must have been neat to learn all you know about Physics from watching > Disney Cartoons. Too bad you're too fucking stupid to understand even cartoon physics, let alone physics in the real world. A Boeing plane wing strength test: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ai2HmvAXcU0> The wing went to 154% of the stresses possible in any flight situation. IOW, you could dive the thing at 600 MPH and pull out at 5 G, and the wings would survive... how do we know this? Because it's happened. Look up China Airlines Flight 006. Also research the Empire State Building airplane crash... a 10-ton Mitchell B-25 bomber at a much lower speed, not as strongly built as modern aircraft, crashed into the Empire State Building... a grid-constructed building of *much* stronger construction than the WTC towers. And it ripped a hole right through that building's outer wall (in fact,the main fuselage impact hole was spread over two floors, so the plane ripped through the flooring structural steel) and in fact some parts went right through the entire building. Exactly as happened at the WTC towers. The Empire State Building stood because it had asbestos fireproofing, plentiful structural concrete, and was of the much stronger grid construction. <http://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.com/2012/09/american-airlines-77-hit-pentagon.html> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4q35xHzjxB0> Note how the F-4 Phantom jet at 500 MPH punches through the 3.66 meters thick concrete wall. Note especially the side view at 0:36 showing the wing slicing through the concrete. You'll note the plane turns to confetti, concentrates its force in a very small area, and punches through that very small area. Remember, both the thickness and the grade of steel used in the WTC towers went down as the height of the building increased. At the top, the outer truss frame members were A36 steel of only 1/4" thick. Where the first plane hit it was likely on 5/16" thick. And those truss frame members were spaced 6 feet 8 inches apart. Not a lot of metal to punch through at all. Now, for the kooks who are still disbelievers... <http://www.popularmechanics.com/adventure/a8683/behold-the-900-mph-supersonic-ping-pong-bazooka-15097897/> Ping-pong ball through a plywood paddle. You moron. LOL > BTW why didn't Flight 175 cast a shadow? <G> Your retarded brain believes every stupid goddamned thing you read on the internet or watch on YouTube. If you could afford a TV, you'd be the world's biggest "TV Hugger", you pathetic moronic piece of shit. Uh oh... what's this, you fucking retard? <http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/salter/review.html> <http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/salter/summaryimages/shadowsequence.jpg> Oh, is that a high-resolution high-framerate sequence of photos that prove you're a delusional retard? Yeah, it is. Take your meds, Roger. Moron. LOL > Rocky Now, get to addressing the 20 ways your kook conspiracy theory violates the laws of physics: ====================================================== 1) Your estimation of the time between detonation and the time of collapse puts the nukes between from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* deep below the towers, a depth we don't even have the technology to drill to today, let alone back in 1968. Not to mention the fact that at that depth, the temperature is so high things like metal *melt*. That's *why* we can't drill much deeper than the 7.636 miles of the Al Shaheen oil well in Qatar (the deepest hole *ever* dug in human history)... the equipment fails. That's why the Kola Superdeep Borehole was abandoned at 7.619 miles deep. 2) The claimed "EMP pulse" in the WCBS video *you* provided wasn't an EMP pulse at all, it was satellite uplink interference. If it'd been a nuke EMP (especially one sized 150 kt), the nanosecond time frame of the explosion (and thus the sharp peak of the EMP) would have caused the camera's electronics to burn out. No amount of shielding would have been sufficient to prevent that. That there is video of the immediate aftermath proves there was no nuke, especially one sized your claimed 150 kt, which would have destroyed all electronics for dozens of miles radius. 3) The radiation experienced was of such short duration that there's no way it was neutron or gamma bombardment from a nuke. If it had been from a nuke the metal in the buildings would have shown high levels of radioactivity for decades. It was found to be beta radiation from the tritium in the aircraft exit signs and law enforcement weapon sights that was the source. That you're gullible enough not to know that a nuke would spread radiation far and wide is testament to how delusional you are. 4) No nuclear detonation byproducts were found at the WTC complex or anywhere in NYC (MID: <e62c14c89ab831a63f27243e265c711a@dizum.com>). They found tritium from the aircraft exit signs and law enforcement weapons sites, radium from industrial sources unrelated to nuclear weapons and background levels for all other sources of radiation. 5) The seismic waves caused by a small 150 kt nuke wouldn't be sufficient to drop the buildings, it'd barely even be felt by people in the vicinity, especially with the bombs buried, as you k'lamed, from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* deep. It would take on the order of 2 MEGAtons to do so, especially at the depths you k'lame the bombs were buried. 6) The trigger that sets off the nuclear explosion is a neutron source. It naturally radioactively decays over time, and its decay byproducts, the elements the neutron source transmutes into as it decays, include xenon, which is a neutron absorber. It's called xenon poisoning. Any bomb that has sat for 33 years without its trigger being replenished will not have a trigger that is viable to start any sort of nuclear chain reaction. 7) I've provided a video from *inside* one of the towers *as* *it* *was* *collapsing*, showing the vibration from the buckling vertical support column and *NO* EMP: ====================== <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xYjoSvzWeo> You'll note the massive shaking from the central support column buckling, but *NO* EMP. And that was INSIDE the WTC tower. No amount of shielding would have saved that camera from a nuke EMP. ====================== 8) Why aren't you explaining how those supposed nukes were going to survive at a depth of 37.28 miles (where the temperature would be approximately 960 degrees F) to 96.93 miles (where the temperature would be approximately 1840 degrees F), Ko0K? 9) Explain how a nuclear weapon can direct its explosion through a hole without any of the compressive blast going out into surrounding rock. 10) Explain how 19 nukes (according to you, another leap of logic taken by your broken brain to explain away the 19 instances of satellite uplink interference in the video *you* provided) were detonated at the WTC complex in rapid succession, yet no ill effects were experienced by electronics, the electrical grid or aircraft. 11) Why aren't you explaining how the personnel you claim were sent down to service those nukes (because now that you know the neutron-source triggers for nuclear weapons require replacement on a periodic basis, your broken brain *had* to construct an entire facility at 37.28 to 96.93 miles deep (far deeper than we have the technology to dig even today, let alone back in 1968), complete with "4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back into the area the nukes were maintained", or your brain would have been forced to admit it was wrong when it told you those nukes sat untouched for 33 years and maintained their viability) are supposed to survive in 960 to 1840 degree heat? 12) You admitted (MID:<ed75e9d6f7ccf7296c075fd695673a37@dizum.com>) that all the materials used in construction of the twin towers (all 1.5 million tons of it) had been accounted for and trucked off to the Fresh Kills landfill. How will you reconcile your admission with your kook blather that significant percentages of the buildings "vaporized" (your word) and "floated toward Europe" (your words)? 13) Why can't you provide proof of the nuclear explosion seismic signatures for these 19 nukes you k'lame were detonated at the WTC site on 11 Sep 2001? 14) Where were the vertically-directed plumes of dust and debris kicked up from your claimed nuclear weapons being detonated deep underground, Ko0K? 15) Explain how the 19 nukes you claimed to have existed could have tunneled holes from the underground installation 37.28 to 96.93 miles deep that you claimed to have existed, to directly under the WTC complex... in 12 seconds... through solid bedrock... prior to detonating directly below the WTC towers (which, of course, fucks up your timing between the detonations you claim took place (for which you used the WCBS video, claiming the satellite uplink interference was "EMP") and the collapses, leading you back to where your delusion started. Congratulations, Dimwit, you've made the full circuit on The Island of Insanity. Now go 'round again.). 16) Explain why you're now saying there were 34 nukes (MID:<345fee8b286a91037bc806ed589d182d@dizum.com>), as opposed to your previously k'lamed 19 nukes (and your previously, previously k'lamed 3 nukes)... would it be because your broken little brain is squirming under the scorching twin beams of truth and reality, screaming in agony at its being forced to see just how delusional it truly is? While you're at it, get to explaining how the regular rad sweeps (radiological surveys) at the twin towers (because the space was primarily rented by government agencies) showed no nukes or any contamination whatsoever, and how 34 nukes were obtained and put in place without drawing any attention whatsoever. Of course, this *still* fucks up your timing between the detonations (ie: your claimed "EMP" on the WCBS video) and the collapses, leading you back to where your delusion started... that unresolvable logic hole rears its ugly head again. LOL 17) Your broken brain is yet again expanding your delusion with your "34 or more nukes" blather (you're now saying there were 65 nukes (MID: <984122ddbf1e4e5d6f5a7b3f56eeeb6f@dizum.com>))... eventually, your broken brain will be telling you that NYC today is a CGI and the real city was blown up by 1,592,629,490,173,371,449,138,916,004,581,949 intelligent nano-nukes which autonomously dug their way up from their secret underground MoleMan base 15,682,941 miles below the surface of our hollow planet and attached themselves to every steel part of every building in NYC and vaporized them and they all floated down to MoleVille, and the fact that the EMP from all those nukes detonating at once didn't burn out every electrical generating station, electrical substation, every piece of electronic equipment, every vehicle, every aircraft... that's *proof* that NYC is a CGI today! LOL 18) Explain how a nuclear weapon wouldn't have nuclear detonation byproducts with the right nuclear trigger, according to your words "with the right detonator you could have a 'clean' nuke" (MID: <43acc7488b179f3bfea83ef7076f92b9@dizum.com>). 19) Now you're saying the OKC bombing was nuclear in nature (MID: <e3f0e4f638e69c3db43076c8b842db91@dizum.com>), and a new era of widespread nuclear terrorism has arrived... proof positive that you're off your meds, Roger Wittekind. 20) Now you're saying the Ogallala Aquifer is radioactive (what's that got to do with the WTC?)... with absolutely no proof... all you have is the paranoid delusional rantings of other schizophrenics like you. Do you see how utterly ridiculous you're beginning to sound? Get back on your meds, you delusional loon. ====================================================== There are now 20 ways your kook konspiracy theory violates the laws of physics... now you'd better get to work addressing each one, point by point, or people are gonna know you're just a retard who can't grasp simple physics. Kook. LOL -- Roger T.E. Wittekind PO Box 471 167 40th Avenue East Moline, IL 61244 309-755-6374 309-755-6394 Roger Wittekind the woman-stalking failed truck driver from East Moline, IL. Roger Wittekind (aka Rocky), your brain is grasping at straws in trying to avoid admitting *you* *are* *wrong*, and as your brain becomes more and more desperate to avoid the truth we promulgate (which utterly demolishes your kook conspiracy theory), it makes larger and larger leaps of illogic. For instance: ============================= A) You said the satellite uplink inteference seen in the WCBS video *you* *provided* was a nuke EMP, so your broken brain told you they must have buried nukes under the twin towers. Being a simpleton, you believed they just dug shallow holes, dropped the nukes in, smoothed over the concrete and walked away for 33 years. B) Your timing on the WCBS video *you* *provided* between the satellite uplink interference (what you deemed to be a "nuke EMP") and the tower shaking being 12 seconds (it was actually 14 seconds, but kooks can't count) means your supposed nukes had to have been buried from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* below the surface (dependent upon soil composition and thus speed of compressive blast transmission). Never mind that we don't have the technology to drill that deep even today, let alone in 1968. Your broken brain had to yet again change your kooky little conspiracy theory to at least try to orient itself at some acute angle to reality. So no "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years" anymore, now it was "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years". C) You're such a simpleton you didn't realize nukes require periodic replacement of their neutron-source trigger, which naturally radioactively decays over time, building up the decay byproduct xenon, which absorbs neutrons. It's called xenon poisoning. So your broken brain told you that someone had to service those nukes to keep the triggers viable... which means your broken brain was thus *forced* to change from "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "built an entire *facility* impossibly deep under the WTC, complete with service personnel and" "4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back into the area the nukes were maintained" (your words). D) Your broken brain then said there were 19 nukes instead of your original 3, because you knew there were 19 instances of satellite uplink interference in the WCBS video *you* *provided*, in which you k'lamed one of the instances of satellite uplink interference was an EMP. And if you k'lame one of them is an EMP, they *all* must be EMPs, so your broken brain now tells you there were 19 nukes detonated in rapid succession... completely ignoring the fact that even one nuke detonation would plunge the city into darkness due to EMP burning out electrical substations, and completely ignoring the fact that no nuclear detonation byproducts were found in the rubble, in the vicinity of the rubble, or anywhere in NYC. E) Now that your broken brain was convinced that the nukes were buried deeply, of course, they had a very wide blast radius, which screwed up your kooky k'lame that they were used to demolish WTC1 and WTC2, but somehow missed WTC3 and WTC4... so your broken brain conceived that the nuclear weapons could somehow dig themselves up from that miles-deep facility to just below the WTC towers prior to exploding, in order to make their cone of destruction smaller. Nevermind that your broken brain said they dug through 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* of *solid* *bedrock* in *12* *seconds*. LOL F) So I've led you by the nose in a full circle... if those bombs your broken brain is telling you existed *did* dig their way up to underneath the WTC twin towers before detonating (they didn't... first because there were no nukes, second because it'd be impossible, but for the sake of argument, we'll continue), that leads right back to your calculation of the time between your claimed "EMP" (the satellite uplink interference on the WCBS video *you* *provided*) and the time the building shook, which is pretty much where we started. So I've proven by drop-kicking your retarded ass around the perimeter of sanity full-circle that you're insane. LOL G) Realizing the utter ridiculousness of your kook blather above, your broken brain has backpedaled and expanded your delusion even more as a desperate attempt at attaining some semblance of plausibility... saying there were 34 mini-nukes, and they were within and underneath the twin towers. If those 34 nukes you claim existed *did* explode, where are the nuclear detonation byproducts? The highly radioactive metal? The radiation burns and radiation sickness of people in the vicinity? Where are the nuclear detonation signature seismographs? Why did the electrical grid, all electronics and all vehicles survive not just one but *34* nuclear EMPs? And what about that timing between the WCBS video satellite uplink interference (what you claimed was "EMP") and the shaking of the tower? That's now off by 14 whole seconds, just as it was when your kooky conspiracy theory began. LOL H) Now you're saying the OKC bombing was nuclear in nature (MID: <e3f0e4f638e69c3db43076c8b842db91@dizum.com>), and a new era of widespread nuclear terrorism has arrived... proof positive that you're off your meds, Roget Wittekind. I) To back up yor "nuclear terrorism era" k'lame in H) above, you're now further k'laming there is such a thing as a magical "detonator" that causes a nuclear weapon to be a "clean nuke" which expulses no EMP and leaves no radiological contamination... heaping proof upon proof that you're off your meds, Roger Wittekind. IOW, your broken brain is far too stupid to discern fantasy from reality, so you've caught yourself in an unresolvable logic hole. And the harder you try to resolve it, the more you run around in little tard-circles, banging your head with your fist and doing your very best Rainman impersonation. I can twist your brain into a Gordian Knot with my knowledge. And I've just barely even started, I haven't even worked up a sweat yet. ============================= Kook. LOL
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| From | Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> |
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| Date | 2015-09-05 18:27 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Ping K Wills: What truth??? Another ? 4 Mr. Disney Physics major |
| Message-ID | <640986498a16703dec3240258d778fe2@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #518693 |
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> Rocky (aka Roger Wittekind the schizophrenic paranoid-delusional woman-stalking failed truck driver), in <news:XI-dnVwTvLEa3HXInZ2dnUU7-cmdnZ2d@giganews.com> did thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again: > Sure must have been neat to learn all you know about Physics from watching > Disney Cartoons. Too bad you're too fucking stupid to understand even cartoon physics, let alone physics in the real world. A Boeing plane wing strength test: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ai2HmvAXcU0> The wing went to 154% of the stresses possible in any flight situation. IOW, you could dive the thing at 600 MPH and pull out at 5 G, and the wings would survive... how do we know this? Because it's happened. Look up China Airlines Flight 006. Also research the Empire State Building airplane crash... a 10-ton Mitchell B-25 bomber at a much lower speed, not as strongly built as modern aircraft, crashed into the Empire State Building... a grid-constructed building of *much* stronger construction than the WTC towers. And it ripped a hole right through that building's outer wall (in fact,the main fuselage impact hole was spread over two floors, so the plane ripped through the flooring structural steel) and in fact some parts went right through the entire building. Exactly as happened at the WTC towers. The Empire State Building stood because it had asbestos fireproofing, plentiful structural concrete, and was of the much stronger grid construction. <http://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.com/2012/09/american-airlines-77-hit-pentagon.html> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4q35xHzjxB0> Note how the F-4 Phantom jet at 500 MPH punches through the 3.66 meters thick concrete wall. Note especially the side view at 0:36 showing the wing slicing through the concrete. You'll note the plane turns to confetti, concentrates its force in a very small area, and punches through that very small area. Remember, both the thickness and the grade of steel used in the WTC towers went down as the height of the building increased. At the top, the outer truss frame members were A36 steel of only 1/4" thick. Where the first plane hit it was likely on 5/16" thick. And those truss frame members were spaced 6 feet 8 inches apart. Not a lot of metal to punch through at all. Now, for the kooks who are still disbelievers... <http://www.popularmechanics.com/adventure/a8683/behold-the-900-mph-supersonic-ping-pong-bazooka-15097897/> Ping-pong ball through a plywood paddle. You moron. LOL > BTW why didn't Flight 175 cast a shadow? <G> Your retarded brain believes every stupid goddamned thing you read on the internet or watch on YouTube. If you could afford a TV, you'd be the world's biggest "TV Hugger", you pathetic moronic piece of shit. Uh oh... what's this, you fucking retard? <http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/salter/review.html> <http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/salter/summaryimages/shadowsequence.jpg> Oh, is that a high-resolution high-framerate sequence of photos that prove you're a delusional retard? Yeah, it is. Take your meds, Roger. Moron. LOL > Rocky Moron. LOL -- Roger T.E. Wittekind PO Box 471 167 40th Avenue East Moline, IL 61244 309-755-6374 309-755-6394 Roger Wittekind the woman-stalking failed truck driver from East Moline, IL. Roger Wittekind (aka Rocky), your brain is grasping at straws in trying to avoid admitting *you* *are* *wrong*, and as your brain becomes more and more desperate to avoid the truth we promulgate (which utterly demolishes your kook conspiracy theory), it makes larger and larger leaps of illogic. For instance: ============================= A) You said the satellite uplink inteference seen in the WCBS video *you* *provided* was a nuke EMP, so your broken brain told you they must have buried nukes under the twin towers. Being a simpleton, you believed they just dug shallow holes, dropped the nukes in, smoothed over the concrete and walked away for 33 years. B) Your timing on the WCBS video *you* *provided* between the satellite uplink interference (what you deemed to be a "nuke EMP") and the tower shaking being 12 seconds (it was actually 14 seconds, but kooks can't count) means your supposed nukes had to have been buried from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* below the surface (dependent upon soil composition and thus speed of compressive blast transmission). Never mind that we don't have the technology to drill that deep even today, let alone in 1968. Your broken brain had to yet again change your kooky little conspiracy theory to at least try to orient itself at some acute angle to reality. So no "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years" anymore, now it was "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years". C) You're such a simpleton you didn't realize nukes require periodic replacement of their neutron-source trigger, which naturally radioactively decays over time, building up the decay byproduct xenon, which absorbs neutrons. It's called xenon poisoning. So your broken brain told you that someone had to service those nukes to keep the triggers viable... which means your broken brain was thus *forced* to change from "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "built an entire *facility* impossibly deep under the WTC, complete with service personnel and" "4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back into the area the nukes were maintained" (your words). D) Your broken brain then said there were 19 nukes instead of your original 3, because you knew there were 19 instances of satellite uplink interference in the WCBS video *you* *provided*, in which you k'lamed one of the instances of satellite uplink interference was an EMP. And if you k'lame one of them is an EMP, they *all* must be EMPs, so your broken brain now tells you there were 19 nukes detonated in rapid succession... completely ignoring the fact that even one nuke detonation would plunge the city into darkness due to EMP burning out electrical substations, and completely ignoring the fact that no nuclear detonation byproducts were found in the rubble, in the vicinity of the rubble, or anywhere in NYC. E) Now that your broken brain was convinced that the nukes were buried deeply, of course, they had a very wide blast radius, which screwed up your kooky k'lame that they were used to demolish WTC1 and WTC2, but somehow missed WTC3 and WTC4... so your broken brain conceived that the nuclear weapons could somehow dig themselves up from that miles-deep facility to just below the WTC towers prior to exploding, in order to make their cone of destruction smaller. Nevermind that your broken brain said they dug through 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* of *solid* *bedrock* in *12* *seconds*. LOL F) So I've led you by the nose in a full circle... if those bombs your broken brain is telling you existed *did* dig their way up to underneath the WTC twin towers before detonating (they didn't... first because there were no nukes, second because it'd be impossible, but for the sake of argument, we'll continue), that leads right back to your calculation of the time between your claimed "EMP" (the satellite uplink interference on the WCBS video *you* *provided*) and the time the building shook, which is pretty much where we started. So I've proven by drop-kicking your retarded ass around the perimeter of sanity full-circle that you're insane. LOL G) Realizing the utter ridiculousness of your kook blather above, your broken brain has backpedaled and expanded your delusion even more as a desperate attempt at attaining some semblance of plausibility... saying there were 34 mini-nukes, and they were within and underneath the twin towers. If those 34 nukes you claim existed *did* explode, where are the nuclear detonation byproducts? The highly radioactive metal? The radiation burns and radiation sickness of people in the vicinity? Where are the nuclear detonation signature seismographs? Why did the electrical grid, all electronics and all vehicles survive not just one but *34* nuclear EMPs? And what about that timing between the WCBS video satellite uplink interference (what you claimed was "EMP") and the shaking of the tower? That's now off by 14 whole seconds, just as it was when your kooky conspiracy theory began. LOL H) Now you're saying the OKC bombing was nuclear in nature (MID: <e3f0e4f638e69c3db43076c8b842db91@dizum.com>), and a new era of widespread nuclear terrorism has arrived... proof positive that you're off your meds, Roget Wittekind. I) To back up yor "nuclear terrorism era" k'lame in H) above, you're now further k'laming there is such a thing as a magical "detonator" that causes a nuclear weapon to be a "clean nuke" which expulses no EMP and leaves no radiological contamination... heaping proof upon proof that you're off your meds, Roger Wittekind. J) To explain away the lack of any evidence of your k'lame of a "nuclear terrorism era", your broken brain has conceived that your magical nukes are employing "Hushaboom technology" (your words) to silence them. IOW, your broken brain is far too stupid to discern fantasy from reality, so you've caught yourself in an unresolvable logic hole. And the harder you try to resolve it, the more you run around in little tard-circles, banging your head with your fist and doing your very best Rainman impersonation. I can twist your brain into a Gordian Knot with my knowledge. And I've just barely even started, I haven't even worked up a sweat yet. ============================= Kook. LOL
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| From | "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-09-03 05:38 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ms94av$mup$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #518600 |
K Wills (Shill #3) wrote: > On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 15:40:31 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote: > Wilis favorite 9/11 video How To Destroy a 9/11 Truther https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG4yGICFsi8
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| From | "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-04 03:57 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <37niua14tmu3il5nq1fq63bn454qrt6v0j@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #518676 |
On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 05:38:23 -0400, "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
wrote:
>K Wills (Shill #3) wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 15:40:31 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>
>
>
"I wonder how much of your life you can keep denying just by cropping
it out, and just pretending it doesn't exist.
Does that work for you with the IRS as well ????"
-- You in Message-ID: <ms930t$i3i$1@dont-email.me>
>
>Wilis favorite 9/11 video
>
>How To Destroy a 9/11 Truther
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG4yGICFsi8
>
>
Are you even capable of honesty?
Serious question.
--
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor
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| From | "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> |
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| Date | 2015-09-04 10:00 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ro6dnTipRqAyLHTInZ2dnUU7-W2dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #518857 |
"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message news:37niua14tmu3il5nq1fq63bn454qrt6v0j@4ax.com... > On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 05:38:23 -0400, "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> ... >>How To Destroy a 9/11 Truther >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG4yGICFsi8 > > Are you even capable of honesty? So says one of the faithful followers of NIST's Cartoon Physics. > Serious question. A "Serious question" from someone that worships NIST and their Cartoon Physics. <G> Rocky
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| From | "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-05 06:00 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <0piluatduhc3i63d7of7ghm3msq2l09m64@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #518896 |
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 10:00:58 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:37niua14tmu3il5nq1fq63bn454qrt6v0j@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 05:38:23 -0400, "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
>...
>>>How To Destroy a 9/11 Truther
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG4yGICFsi8
>>
>> Are you even capable of honesty?
>
>So says one of the faithful followers of NIST's Cartoon Physics.
>
Since no such physics were followed by the NIST, your lie fails.
>> Serious question.
>
>A "Serious question" from someone that worships NIST and their Cartoon
>Physics. <G>
Since no such physics were followed by the NIST, your lie fails.
Would you like to try some different lies?
--
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor
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