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Are low tech computers viable?

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  Are low tech computers viable? chemguy <rick_kingstone777@hotmail.com> - 2017-07-09 19:18 -0700
    Re: Are low tech computers viable? Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2017-07-09 19:32 -0700
      Re: Are low tech computers viable? Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-09 23:33 -0500
    Re: Are low tech computers viable? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-10 05:10 +0000
      Re: Are low tech computers viable? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-10 18:38 -0400
        Re: Are low tech computers viable? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-11 01:47 +0000
          Re: Are low tech computers viable? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-10 22:44 -0400
            Re: Are low tech computers viable? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-11 05:59 +0000
      Re: Are low tech computers viable? Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 21:05 -0500
        Re: Are low tech computers viable? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-12 05:36 +0000
          Re: Are low tech computers viable? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-12 07:01 -0700
          Re: Are low tech computers viable? Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-07-14 14:34 -0500
    Re: Are low tech computers viable? Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2017-07-10 08:21 -0400
    Re: Are low tech computers viable? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-10 06:18 -0700
    Re: Are low tech computers viable? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-10 06:45 -0700
      Re: Are low tech computers viable? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-07-10 19:34 -0700
        Re: Are low tech computers viable? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-10 22:45 -0400
          Re: Are low tech computers viable? Mushnik <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-10 21:48 -0500
        Re: Are low tech computers viable? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-07-10 22:24 -0700
        Re: Are low tech computers viable? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-07-14 14:12 -0700

#639685 — Are low tech computers viable?

Fromchemguy <rick_kingstone777@hotmail.com>
Date2017-07-09 19:18 -0700
SubjectAre low tech computers viable?
Message-ID<6bfab69a-cf75-4b30-812d-4ab2884e9eb7@googlegroups.com>
It is well known that bees communicate essential information by performing a dance ritual within the hive. It may be possible to design a low tech computer based upon the dance of the bees.

The Dancing Computer;

A low tech computer may be designed to mimic the dancing bees. This procedure may also be simulated electronically.

Assume a very large chess board (dancing board) with black and white squares. The optimum array of squares must be confirmed.

A person is assigned to stand on each square. Again the optimum number of people must be confirmed. This implies that some squares may be initially “empty”. Each person holds a colored card, the card may also be labeled or numbered. The initial configuration of the “dancing board” represents data input.

A “caller” (not standing on the board) shouts out dance instructions accompanied by some music. The occupants of the board obey the “dance instructions” from the caller similar to a square dance. The dance instructions may also include a specific exchange of cards between some dancers. The dance instructions are an algorithm (or operation) to be performed on the original data input.

After the dance is complete each occupant may have a new position on the board and may be holding a different card than originally held. The final configuration of the “dancing board” represents data output. 

The data output may represent a solution to some problem (a low tech “computer” solution). 

I encourage others to design such a computer. 

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#639686

FromAlan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-09 19:32 -0700
Message-ID<9bc70a15-47b9-4b80-b8d1-58bfe1dad6a2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#639685
On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 4:18:39 PM UTC-10, chemguy wrote:
> It is well known that bees communicate essential information by performing a dance ritual within the hive. It may be possible to design a low tech computer based upon the dance of the bees.
> 
> The Dancing Computer;
> 
> A low tech computer may be designed to mimic the dancing bees. This procedure may also be simulated electronically.
> 
> Assume a very large chess board (dancing board) with black and white squares. The optimum array of squares must be confirmed.
> 
> A person is assigned to stand on each square. Again the optimum number of people must be confirmed. This implies that some squares may be initially “empty”. Each person holds a colored card, the card may also be labeled or numbered. The initial configuration of the “dancing board” represents data input.
> 
> A “caller” (not standing on the board) shouts out dance instructions accompanied by some music. The occupants of the board obey the “dance instructions” from the caller similar to a square dance. The dance instructions may also include a specific exchange of cards between some dancers. The dance instructions are an algorithm (or operation) to be performed on the original data input.
> 
> After the dance is complete each occupant may have a new position on the board and may be holding a different card than originally held. The final configuration of the “dancing board” represents data output. 
> 
> The data output may represent a solution to some problem (a low tech “computer” solution). 
> 
> I encourage others to design such a computer.

Kitchen semiconductors can be
processed with gelatin, salt and pepper.
Aluminum foil over a "gate" is insulated
from a kitchen MOSFET by butter.
NAND gates are made, then nested by logic.

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#639704

FromSегg io <innvalid@invalid.com>
Date2017-07-09 23:33 -0500
Message-ID<ojv02p$19rv$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#639686
On 7/9/2017 9:32 PM, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 4:18:39 PM UTC-10, chemguy wrote:
>> It is well known that bees communicate essential information by performing a dance ritual within the hive. It may be possible to design a low tech computer based upon the dance of the bees.
>>
>> The Dancing Computer;
>>
>> A low tech computer may be designed to mimic the dancing bees. This procedure may also be simulated electronically.
>>
>> Assume a very large chess board (dancing board) with black and white squares. The optimum array of squares must be confirmed.

>> A person is assigned to stand on each square. Again the optimum number of people must be confirmed. This implies that some squares may be initially “empty”. Each person holds a colored card, the card may also be labeled or numbered. The initial configuration of the “dancing board” represents data input.
>>
>> A “caller” (not standing on the board) shouts out dance instructions accompanied by some music. The occupants of the board obey the “dance instructions” from the caller similar to a square dance. The dance instructions may also include a specific exchange of cards between some dancers. The dance instructions are an algorithm (or operation) to be performed on the original data input.
>>
>> After the dance is complete each occupant may have a new position on the board and may be holding a different card than originally held. The final configuration of the “dancing board” represents data output.
>>
>> The data output may represent a solution to some problem (a low tech “computer” solution).
>>
>> I encourage others to design such a computer.
> 
> Kitchen semiconductors can be
> processed with gelatin, salt and pepper.
> Aluminum foil over a "gate" is insulated
> from a kitchen MOSFET by butter.
> NAND gates are made, then nested by logic.
> 

use an old telephone bell to "shout out the dance instructions".

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#639707

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-07-10 05:10 +0000
Message-ID<oreb3e-3j7.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#639685
chemguy <rick_kingstone777@hotmail.com> wrote:
> It is well known that bees communicate essential information by performing a dance ritual within the hive. It may be possible to design a low tech computer based upon the dance of the bees.

Or one based on opera singing pigs.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#639839

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-07-10 18:38 -0400
Message-ID<596401d2$0$36014$c3e8da3$76a7c58f@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#639707
On 7/10/2017 1:10 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com drooled:
> chemguy <rick_kingstone777@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> It is well known that bees communicate essential information by performing a dance ritual within the hive. It may be possible to design a low tech computer based upon the dance of the bees.
> 
> Or one based on opera singing pigs.

Troll and babble on with your senile blather with no idea of reality and 
science. Your ignorance simply is amazing.

Truth is that pigs make wonderful music!

"Idle gossip, rumour or urban myth has it that Hermeto Pascoal
played a live pig in concert."

"AFAIK he used to play "pig" all the time in his early years.
Apparently he pulled the pig's tail for it to squeak.
The hardest part is tuning all the pigs..."

And of course you will call this an "ad hominem" and a "troll" and will 
be oblivious to the quotation marks accusing me of trying to pass the 
remarks off as mine. God you are worse than Bert! And this deserves some 
kind of prize! No offense, of course.

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#639872

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-07-11 01:47 +0000
Message-ID<pand3e-g4f.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#639839
benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 7/10/2017 1:10 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com drooled:
>> chemguy <rick_kingstone777@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> It is well known that bees communicate essential information by performing a dance ritual within the hive. It may be possible to design a low tech computer based upon the dance of the bees.
>> 
>> Or one based on opera singing pigs.
> 
> Troll and babble

The resident troll continues to seek attention through ad hominems and
rambling babble.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#639877

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-07-10 22:44 -0400
Message-ID<59643ba1$0$60248$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#639872
On 7/10/2017 9:47 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>> On 7/10/2017 1:10 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com drooled:
>>> chemguy <rick_kingstone777@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> It is well known that bees communicate essential information by performing a dance ritual within the hive. It may be possible to design a low tech computer based upon the dance of the bees.
>>>
>>> Or one based on opera singing pigs.
>>
>> Troll and babble
> 
> The resident troll continues to seek attention through ad hominems and
> rambling babble.
> 
> 
Didn;t I'd say the the senile moron would ignore that cool Pig-playing 
quote and go harping about ad hominems and trolls? Chimps is SO 
predictable. His brain quite working years ago. Hey Chimp where are your 
keys?

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#639929

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-07-11 05:59 +0000
Message-ID<s36e3e-nhg.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#639877
benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 7/10/2017 9:47 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>> On 7/10/2017 1:10 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com drooled:
>>>> chemguy <rick_kingstone777@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> It is well known that bees communicate essential information by performing a dance ritual within the hive. It may be possible to design a low tech computer based upon the dance of the bees.
>>>>
>>>> Or one based on opera singing pigs.
>>>
>>> Troll and babble
>> 
>> The resident troll continues to seek attention through ad hominems and
>> rambling babble.
>> 
>> 
> Didn;t I'd say the the senil

Yet more ad hominem and babble from the resident troll.

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#640085

FromLofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-11 21:05 -0500
Message-ID<vt0bmc97i7j3tlocf1lse4c4q2n5rsvv59@4ax.com>
In reply to#639707
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 05:10:48 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>chemguy <rick_kingstone777@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> It is well known that bees communicate essential information by performing a dance ritual within the hive. It may be possible to design a low tech computer based upon the dance of the bees.
>
>Or one based on opera singing pigs.

Now and then you make perfect sense.

-- 
Goat

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#640153

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-07-12 05:36 +0000
Message-ID<c4pg3e-nfp.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#640085
Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 05:10:48 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>chemguy <rick_kingstone777@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> It is well known that bees communicate essential information by performing a dance ritual within the hive. It may be possible to design a low tech computer based upon the dance of the bees.
>>
>>Or one based on opera singing pigs.
> 
> Now and then you make perfect sense.

If you are looking for sense you should not be reading this group.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#640165

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-12 07:01 -0700
Message-ID<0c65c237-8f82-420d-8eec-9482858a2567@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#640153
On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 9:05:07 AM UTC-4, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 05:10:48 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> > 
> >>chemguy <rick_kingstone777@hotmail.com> wrote:

> >> It is well known that bees communicate essential information by
> >> performing a dance ritual within the hive. It may be possible to
> >> design a low tech computer based upon the dance of the bees.

> >>Or one based on opera singing pigs.
> > 
> > Now and then you make perfect sense.
> 
> If you are looking for sense you should not be reading this group.

That one-liner of yours does explain your postings here, Jim Pennino. Kudos!

> -- 
> Jim Pennino

Should I claim that me m(y) response was a joke now or wait... three centuries?!

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: Poet Pla(y)ing Tennis! Wimbledon 2017 Grasshopper Mode...” 
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace. 

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#640500

FromLofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-14 14:34 -0500
Message-ID<f27imctm5gt8lpt62p8pmal37vs174qs77@4ax.com>
In reply to#640153
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 05:36:44 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>If you are looking for sense you should not be reading this group.

You kidding?  It's a fucking adventure.  You know all the people who are
terrified of "artificial intelligence"?  When we finally devise it, it
will act just like the people on this newsgroup.  It'll be hilarious.

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#639727

FromWally W. <ww84wa@aim.com>
Date2017-07-10 08:21 -0400
Message-ID<nrr6mc9ii573dijva678not2p2l422egm1@4ax.com>
In reply to#639685
On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 19:18:34 -0700 (PDT), chemguy wrote:

>It is well known that bees ****communicate**** essential information by performing a dance ritual within the hive. It may be possible to design a low tech *****computer***** based upon the dance of the bees.

Communicating and computing are different processes.

You proposed an output device. One that is not compatible with usual
techniques for archiving output.


> I encourage others to design such a computer. 

Ahaaa ... an Ideas Guy.

Except your '“caller” (not standing on the board)' is the computer.

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#639729

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-10 06:18 -0700
Message-ID<f4cdae5a-62e7-4018-8f8e-a94565b378ad@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#639685
On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 10:18:39 PM UTC-4, chemguy wrote:
> It is well known that bees communicate essential information by performing a dance ritual within the hive. It may be possible to design a low tech computer based upon the dance of the bees.
> 
> The Dancing Computer;
> 
> A low tech computer may be designed to mimic the dancing bees.
> This procedure may also be simulated electronically.
> 
> The data output may represent a solution to some problem
> (a low tech “computer” solution). 
> 
> I encourage others to design such a computer.

Quite the opposite, this is high tech in the sense that
it is analogous to an array processor or grid computing.
As such this is an old idea and has been done.

So nice OLD idea.
ed

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#639731

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-10 06:45 -0700
Message-ID<0b780ac7-9f52-4af5-8ea5-e7489e274ee2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#639685
On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 12:18:39 PM UTC+10, chemguy wrote:
> It is well known that bees communicate essential information by performing a dance ritual within the hive. It may be possible to design a low tech computer based upon the dance of the bees.
> 
> The Dancing Computer;
> 
> A low tech computer may be designed to mimic the dancing bees. This procedure may also be simulated electronically.
> 
> Assume a very large chess board (dancing board) with black and white squares. The optimum array of squares must be confirmed.
> 
> A person is assigned to stand on each square. Again the optimum number of people must be confirmed. This implies that some squares may be initially “empty”. Each person holds a colored card, the card may also be labeled or numbered. The initial configuration of the “dancing board” represents data input.
> 
> A “caller” (not standing on the board) shouts out dance instructions accompanied by some music. The occupants of the board obey the “dance instructions” from the caller similar to a square dance. The dance instructions may also include a specific exchange of cards between some dancers. The dance instructions are an algorithm (or operation) to be performed on the original data input.
> 
> After the dance is complete each occupant may have a new position on the board and may be holding a different card than originally held. The final configuration of the “dancing board” represents data output. 
> 
> The data output may represent a solution to some problem (a low tech “computer” solution). 
> 
> I encourage others to design such a computer.

It is not necessary to design such a computer. The basic idea is sound and
useful for simulations. In fact, I wrote a simulation program to optimise
the performance of Telstra call centre networks using that idea back in 1995.
The idea was to change one variable out of thousands, and see the output, and
then keep on repeating this process till the best set of variables is 
obtained. To begin with I used a discrete event simulation, based on 
randomness. Then later I made it simpler using analytic functions, so simple
that it could be presented in Excel.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

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#639874

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-10 19:34 -0700
Message-ID<867b86f3-365f-40b1-8d19-d23353ccf4c6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#639731
On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 6:45:26 AM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 12:18:39 PM UTC+10, chemguy wrote:
> > It is well known that bees communicate essential information by performing a dance ritual within the hive. It may be possible to design a low tech computer based upon the dance of the bees.
> > 
> > The Dancing Computer;
> > 
> > A low tech computer may be designed to mimic the dancing bees. This procedure may also be simulated electronically.
> > 
> > Assume a very large chess board (dancing board) with black and white squares. The optimum array of squares must be confirmed.
> > 
> > A person is assigned to stand on each square. Again the optimum number of people must be confirmed. This implies that some squares may be initially “empty”. Each person holds a colored card, the card may also be labeled or numbered. The initial configuration of the “dancing board” represents data input.
> > 
> > A “caller” (not standing on the board) shouts out dance instructions accompanied by some music. The occupants of the board obey the “dance instructions” from the caller similar to a square dance. The dance instructions may also include a specific exchange of cards between some dancers. The dance instructions are an algorithm (or operation) to be performed on the original data input.
> > 
> > After the dance is complete each occupant may have a new position on the board and may be holding a different card than originally held. The final configuration of the “dancing board” represents data output. 
> > 
> > The data output may represent a solution to some problem (a low tech “computer” solution). 
> > 
> > I encourage others to design such a computer.
> 
> It is not necessary to design such a computer. The basic idea is sound and
> useful for simulations. In fact, I wrote a simulation program to optimise
> the performance of Telstra call centre networks using that idea back in 1995.
> The idea was to change one variable out of thousands, and see the output, and
> then keep on repeating this process till the best set of variables is 
> obtained. To begin with I used a discrete event simulation, based on 
> randomness. Then later I made it simpler using analytic functions, so simple
> that it could be presented in Excel.
> 
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee

My acer laptop is no match for the brain of bees.Bees know they are alive.Bees build hives.Bees know how to find food.Bees take care of their queen,and eggs.Bees share.I like bees.They and cockroches are nice bugs.They like me as well. Well Treb is a computer,and we get along fairly well.TreBert

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#639878

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-07-10 22:45 -0400
Message-ID<59643bd3$0$60248$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#639874
On 7/10/2017 10:34 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 6:45:26 AM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 12:18:39 PM UTC+10, chemguy wrote:
>>> It is well known that bees communicate essential information by performing a dance ritual within the hive. It may be possible to design a low tech computer based upon the dance of the bees.
>>>
>>> The Dancing Computer;
>>>
>>> A low tech computer may be designed to mimic the dancing bees. This procedure may also be simulated electronically.
>>>
>>> Assume a very large chess board (dancing board) with black and white squares. The optimum array of squares must be confirmed.
>>>
>>> A person is assigned to stand on each square. Again the optimum number of people must be confirmed. This implies that some squares may be initially “empty”. Each person holds a colored card, the card may also be labeled or numbered. The initial configuration of the “dancing board” represents data input.
>>>
>>> A “caller” (not standing on the board) shouts out dance instructions accompanied by some music. The occupants of the board obey the “dance instructions” from the caller similar to a square dance. The dance instructions may also include a specific exchange of cards between some dancers. The dance instructions are an algorithm (or operation) to be performed on the original data input.
>>>
>>> After the dance is complete each occupant may have a new position on the board and may be holding a different card than originally held. The final configuration of the “dancing board” represents data output.
>>>
>>> The data output may represent a solution to some problem (a low tech “computer” solution).
>>>
>>> I encourage others to design such a computer.
>>
>> It is not necessary to design such a computer. The basic idea is sound and
>> useful for simulations. In fact, I wrote a simulation program to optimise
>> the performance of Telstra call centre networks using that idea back in 1995.
>> The idea was to change one variable out of thousands, and see the output, and
>> then keep on repeating this process till the best set of variables is
>> obtained. To begin with I used a discrete event simulation, based on
>> randomness. Then later I made it simpler using analytic functions, so simple
>> that it could be presented in Excel.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Arindam Banerjee
> 
> My acer laptop is no match for the brain of bees.Bees know they are alive.Bees build hives.Bees know how to find food.Bees take care of their queen,and eggs.Bees share.I like bees.They and cockroches are nice bugs.They like me as well. Well Treb is a computer,and we get along fairly well.TreBert
> 
You are a big a nutjob as HVAC. (maybe you actually ARE HVAC?)

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#639880

FromMushnik <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2017-07-10 21:48 -0500
Message-ID<ok1e98$13il$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#639878
On 7/10/2017 9:45 PM, benj wrote:
> On 7/10/2017 10:34 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 6:45:26 AM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 12:18:39 PM UTC+10, chemguy wrote:
>>>> It is well known that bees communicate essential information by 
>>>> performing a dance ritual within the hive. It may be possible to 
>>>> design a low tech computer based upon the dance of the bees.
>>>>
>>>> The Dancing Computer;
>>>>
>>>> A low tech computer may be designed to mimic the dancing bees. This 
>>>> procedure may also be simulated electronically.
>>>>
>>>> Assume a very large chess board (dancing board) with black and white 
>>>> squares. The optimum array of squares must be confirmed.
>>>>
>>>> A person is assigned to stand on each square. Again the optimum 
>>>> number of people must be confirmed. This implies that some squares 
>>>> may be initially “empty”. Each person holds a colored card, the card 
>>>> may also be labeled or numbered. The initial configuration of the 
>>>> “dancing board” represents data input.
>>>>
>>>> A “caller” (not standing on the board) shouts out dance instructions 
>>>> accompanied by some music. The occupants of the board obey the 
>>>> “dance instructions” from the caller similar to a square dance. The 
>>>> dance instructions may also include a specific exchange of cards 
>>>> between some dancers. The dance instructions are an algorithm (or 
>>>> operation) to be performed on the original data input.
>>>>
>>>> After the dance is complete each occupant may have a new position on 
>>>> the board and may be holding a different card than originally held. 
>>>> The final configuration of the “dancing board” represents data output.
>>>>
>>>> The data output may represent a solution to some problem (a low tech 
>>>> “computer” solution).
>>>>
>>>> I encourage others to design such a computer.
>>>
>>> It is not necessary to design such a computer. The basic idea is 
>>> sound and
>>> useful for simulations. In fact, I wrote a simulation program to 
>>> optimise
>>> the performance of Telstra call centre networks using that idea back 
>>> in 1995.
>>> The idea was to change one variable out of thousands, and see the 
>>> output, and
>>> then keep on repeating this process till the best set of variables is
>>> obtained. To begin with I used a discrete event simulation, based on
>>> randomness. Then later I made it simpler using analytic functions, so 
>>> simple
>>> that it could be presented in Excel.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Arindam Banerjee
>>
>> My acer laptop is no match for the brain of bees.Bees know they are 
>> alive.Bees build hives.Bees know how to find food.Bees take care of 
>> their queen,and eggs.Bees share.I like bees.They and cockroches are 
>> nice bugs.They like me as well. Well Treb is a computer,and we get 
>> along fairly well.TreBert
>>
> You are a big a nutjob as HVAC. (maybe you actually ARE HVAC?)

he's bee brained.   Cockroaches like him too.

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#639899

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2017-07-10 22:24 -0700
Message-ID<ok1n8o$cd6$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#639874
Yo, Glazier, you filthy and sanctimonious Swine
how come you like to be reminded day after day that
you're <http://tinyurl.com/The-Chosen-Graveyard-Vandal>

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#640519

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2017-07-14 14:12 -0700
Message-ID<da696a91-47ff-465d-a3b0-f914eaf3ba78@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#639874
On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 7:34:54 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 6:45:26 AM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 12:18:39 PM UTC+10, chemguy wrote:
> > > It is well known that bees communicate essential information by performing a dance ritual within the hive. It may be possible to design a low tech computer based upon the dance of the bees.
> > > 
> > > The Dancing Computer;
> > > 
> > > A low tech computer may be designed to mimic the dancing bees. This procedure may also be simulated electronically.
> > > 
> > > Assume a very large chess board (dancing board) with black and white squares. The optimum array of squares must be confirmed.
> > > 
> > > A person is assigned to stand on each square. Again the optimum number of people must be confirmed. This implies that some squares may be initially “empty”. Each person holds a colored card, the card may also be labeled or numbered. The initial configuration of the “dancing board” represents data input.
> > > 
> > > A “caller” (not standing on the board) shouts out dance instructions accompanied by some music. The occupants of the board obey the “dance instructions” from the caller similar to a square dance. The dance instructions may also include a specific exchange of cards between some dancers. The dance instructions are an algorithm (or operation) to be performed on the original data input.
> > > 
> > > After the dance is complete each occupant may have a new position on the board and may be holding a different card than originally held. The final configuration of the “dancing board” represents data output. 
> > > 
> > > The data output may represent a solution to some problem (a low tech “computer” solution). 
> > > 
> > > I encourage others to design such a computer.
> > 
> > It is not necessary to design such a computer. The basic idea is sound and
> > useful for simulations. In fact, I wrote a simulation program to optimise
> > the performance of Telstra call centre networks using that idea back in 1995.
> > The idea was to change one variable out of thousands, and see the output, and
> > then keep on repeating this process till the best set of variables is 
> > obtained. To begin with I used a discrete event simulation, based on 
> > randomness. Then later I made it simpler using analytic functions, so simple
> > that it could be presented in Excel.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Arindam Banerjee
> 
> My acer laptop is no match for the brain of bees.Bees know they are alive.Bees build hives.Bees know how to find food.Bees take care of their queen,and eggs.Bees share.I like bees.They and cockroches are nice bugs.They like me as well. Well Treb is a computer,and we get along fairly well.TreBert


I built a computer while I was still in high school.  Some still remember it.  It was low tech, but required a lot of wiring.  It would display all six trigonometric functions for all angles from zero to 90 degrees.  It won me the Grand Champion ribbon at the Oregon State Fair!

Double-A

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