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  Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-24 11:20 -0500
    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 16:48 +0000
      Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-24 12:27 -0500
        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 17:55 +0000
        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-25 12:34 -0500
    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-24 22:12 +0100
      Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-25 09:17 -0400
        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-25 15:30 +0100
          Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-25 10:53 -0400
            Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-25 10:15 -0500
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-25 11:35 -0400
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-25 11:02 -0500
                  Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-25 11:09 -0500
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-25 14:03 -0400
                      Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-25 19:52 -0500
                      Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 21:18 -0500
                        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-26 16:25 -0400
                          Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 04:23 -0500
                            Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-27 09:45 -0400
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 21:18 -0500
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-25 10:36 -0500
              & & & noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 10:20 -0700
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-25 20:50 +0100
            Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-25 16:57 +0000
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-25 14:06 -0400
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-26 05:43 -0400
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 17:40 +0000
                  Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED 9/11 "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-26 17:19 -0400
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED 9/11 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 22:00 +0000
                  Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED and so does Jim "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-26 17:06 -0500
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED and so does Jim jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 23:01 +0000
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED and so does Jim "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 04:23 -0500
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED and so does Jim gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 12:51 -0500
                  Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-27 07:25 +0200
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED  Jim is a LIAR "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-26 09:21 -0500
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED  Jim is a LIAR jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 17:41 +0000
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Jim is a LIAR gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-26 22:37 -0500
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED  Jim is a LIAR "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 04:21 -0500
            Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-25 14:01 -0400
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-26 06:02 -0400
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-26 16:36 -0400
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 04:21 -0500
                  Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-27 18:54 +0200
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 20:01 -0500
                      Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-28 05:53 +0200
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED  BKD is BAD "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-26 09:47 -0500
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED  BKD is BAD jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 17:43 +0000
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BKD is BAD gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 12:57 -0500
            Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 21:18 -0500
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-26 06:05 -0400
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 04:21 -0500
                  Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-29 10:38 -0500
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-29 16:27 +0000
                      Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-29 11:50 -0500
                        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-29 17:40 +0000
                          Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-29 12:57 -0500
                            Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-29 18:11 +0000
                        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-29 19:31 +0100
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 15:56 -0500
                      Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent can not provide one iota of evidence "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-29 18:50 -0500
                        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent can not provide one iota of evidence jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-30 01:28 +0000
                        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent can not provide one iota of evidence gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-29 22:27 -0500
                        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent can not provide one iota of evidence "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 04:41 -0500
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-26 09:17 -0500
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 17:48 +0000
                  Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED (I did not see a plane go in) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-26 15:07 -0500
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED (I did not see a plane go in) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 20:36 +0000
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED (I did not see a plane go in) gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 12:53 -0500
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 04:22 -0500
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 12:56 -0500
    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-24 20:28 -0500

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        <snip crap>

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#516814 — & & &

you must know of the special purpose of building 7.  anyway,
the towers were not cladded with asbestos, and
that may be the reason that they fell into the huge subway,
that serviced the w.t.c

> > Particularly with the debris from WTC 7, which had no logical reason to 
> > collapse.
> >
> > NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11 or 
> > since,  totally collapsed due to fire.
> > And yet that day 3 buildings all suffered the same fate. And all were 
> > owned by the same person.
> 
> Only a television junkie could believe all the crap we were fed on and about 
> 9/11 starting with the very obvious bullshit about Flight 77 and Flight 93.
> 
> Rocky

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#516845

On 25/08/2015 16:15, Rocky wrote:
> "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:mrhvee$kav$1@dont-email.me...
>>
>>
>> Tony Dragon wrote:
>>> On 25/08/2015 14:17, Bast wrote:
>>>> Tony Dragon wrote:
>>>>> On 24/08/2015 17:20, Rocky wrote:
>>>>>> gilber34 you are a complete idiot because it doesn't really matter if
>>>>>> the Twin Towers were nuked or not because all that really matters is
>>>>>> we were given complete and udder bullshit by NIST about what really
>>>>>> brought the Twin Towers down.
>>>>>
>>>>> About turn.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NIST doest not have one fact to support their complete and udder
>>>>>> bullshit and yet our whole policy that gets us in to war after war is
>>>>>> based on
>>>>>> believing the absolute bullshit that NIST gave us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kevin Ryan, one of the people in the following videos was in on the
>>>>>> testing that NIST did on the steel from the Twin Towers.  He knows
>>>>>> better than
>>>>>> anybody that the test NIST ran did not support their "Collapse
>>>>>> Initiation hypothesis."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are pissed because I go so far as to say both CGIs and Nukes
>>>>>> were used in Nuke York City I can handle that but for you to ignore
>>>>>> the fact that NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED is another issue entirely.
>>>>>
>>>>> But in the past you have said that the casualty list was fabricated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It most certainly was.
>>>> The first responders that died were never included as "9/11 casualties"
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmkNn6Huko0
>>>>
>>>> And were also dismissed as "kooks",...yet THEY WERE THERE.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> What were they reported as then?
>>>
>>> I am sure that there has been lists of for example fire service
>>> casualties.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Not according to the US federal government.
>> As they would have to answer questions of why so many of the 9/11 first
>> responders are now dead with cancer.
>>
>> Much like after Hiroshima the victims years later were never considered
>> "casualties".
>>
>> So I won't dismiss Rocky's claims of "nukes" being used that day, even if
>> I can not prove it.
>> Especially since the feds were so concerned about making all the debris
>> vanish, so no one else could do a proper investigation.
>
> Actually that particular story about removing the debris is BS because the
> fact is there was next to nothing left of the Twin Towers to ship anywhere.
> See:
>   http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg
>

About turn, so the dump trucks did not collect anything?
In the past you have told us that the pile of debris was not big enough, 
now there is no debris.


> And it is the ultra fine particles that floated away that is one of the tell
> tale signs of nuke because nothing else can do that to solid steel.  See:
>
> Nuclear destruction of the WTC
>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7FNGWsjj_Y
>
> AE911truth found very small particles from the Twin Towers but they assumed
> it was left over nano-thermate instead of evidence that a nuke had been
> used.
>

Breaking News @Nano-thermate' is back.

>> There was no reason the debis couldn't have been stored somewhere in the
>> US, where proper impartial forensic investigations could be done.
>> Particularly with the debris from WTC 7, which had no logical reason to
>> collapse.
>>
>> NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11 or
>> since,  totally collapsed due to fire.
>> And yet that day 3 buildings all suffered the same fate. And all were
>> owned by the same person.
>
> Only a television junkie could believe all the crap we were fed on and about
> 9/11 starting with the very obvious bullshit about Flight 77 and Flight 93.
>
> Rocky sheeple
>
>


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#516808

In sci.physics Bast <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:

<snip kook babble>
 
> NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11 or 
> since,  totally collapsed due to fire.

An outright lie that is trivially verified by a simple web search.

There have been hundreds of such collapes world wide, kook.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#516826

In article <pcjuac-7ig.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com 
says...
> 
> In sci.physics Bast <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:
> 
> <snip kook babble>
>  
> > NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11 or 
> > since,  totally collapsed due to fire.
> 
> An outright lie that is trivially verified by a simple web search.
> 
> There have been hundreds of such collapes world wide, kook.

One little nugget of truth, they are the first high rise (over 50 
stories) steel buildings to collapse. They are also the only buildings 
where there was no real fire fighting effort or sprinklers. That minor 
detail is what the troofer morons ignore. Like they ignore all other 
kinds of things about 911, and then make a lot of shit up. And then they 
expect sane people to take them seriously!

-- 
BDK: Head Government Shill, and future Psychotronic World Dominator. 
Master of Remote Viewing. Level 5 expert in kOOkStudies.
Former FEMA camp activities director. Head Strategic Writer. Former 
Black Helicopter color consultant.

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#516970

jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In sci.physics Bast <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>
> <snip kook babble>
>
>> NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11 or
>> since,  totally collapsed due to fire.
>
> An outright lie that is trivially verified by a simple web search.
>
> There have been hundreds of such collapes world wide, kook.




Citations please.

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#517058

In sci.physics Bast <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:
> 
> 
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics Bast <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> <snip kook babble>
>>
>>> NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11 or
>>> since,  totally collapsed due to fire.
>>
>> An outright lie that is trivially verified by a simple web search.
>>
>> There have been hundreds of such collapes world wide, kook.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Citations please.
 
Like I said, a trivial web search, kook.

 
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#517115 — Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED 9/11

jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In sci.physics Bast <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> In sci.physics Bast <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip kook babble>
>>>
>>>> NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11
>>>> or since,  totally collapsed due to fire.
>>>
>>> An outright lie that is trivially verified by a simple web search.
>>>
>>> There have been hundreds of such collapes world wide, kook.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Citations please.
>
> Like I said, a trivial web search, kook.






Aw go on, Humor Me.
As I'm sure others will want to see what evidence you have as well.

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#517119 — Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED 9/11

In sci.physics Bast <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:
> 
> 
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics Bast <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> In sci.physics Bast <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <snip kook babble>
>>>>
>>>>> NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11
>>>>> or since,  totally collapsed due to fire.
>>>>
>>>> An outright lie that is trivially verified by a simple web search.
>>>>
>>>> There have been hundreds of such collapes world wide, kook.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Citations please.
>>
>> Like I said, a trivial web search, kook.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Aw go on, Humor Me.

I don't humor kooks.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#517120 — Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED and so does Jim

<jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message 
news:3aa1bc-7ci.ln1@mail.specsol.com...
> In sci.physics Bast <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> In sci.physics Bast <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip kook babble>
>>>
>>>> NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11 or
>>>> since,  totally collapsed due to fire.
>>>
>>> An outright lie that is trivially verified by a simple web search.
>>>
>>> There have been hundreds of such collapes world wide, kook.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Citations please.
>
> Like I said, a trivial web search, kook.

You mean like this:  <G>

Fires Have Never Caused Skyscrapers to Collapse
 http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/fires.html

And I can personally vouch for the fact the First Interstate Bank Building 
remained standing because I drove by there on my way to Redondo beach the 
next morning and it was still standing strong.

But too bad those are buildings that remained standing and not collapsed. 
<G>

And don't forget that the reason that NIST claimed the Twin Towers collapsed 
was complete and udder bullshit as proven by the following playlist:

The Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvCuMULutHs&list=PLm5UJ3igmxaIBJw8yvK1-a9H_11kBDS8W

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#517130 — Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED and so does Jim

In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
> 
> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message 
> news:3aa1bc-7ci.ln1@mail.specsol.com...
>> In sci.physics Bast <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> In sci.physics Bast <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <snip kook babble>
>>>>
>>>>> NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11 or
>>>>> since,  totally collapsed due to fire.
>>>>
>>>> An outright lie that is trivially verified by a simple web search.
>>>>
>>>> There have been hundreds of such collapes world wide, kook.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Citations please.
>>
>> Like I said, a trivial web search, kook.
> 
> You mean like this:  <G>
> 
> Fires Have Never Caused Skyscrapers to Collapse

Even if it were true it is irrelevant, kook.

When a nuclear device explodes, it creates a huge and unique seismic
signature that can be detected by a seismograph anywhere on the planet.

There were no nuclear seismic signatures detected on 9/11 by any
seismograph anywhere in the world but the collapse of the two towers
as well as the crashes at the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania were detected
by nearby seismographs as the slight disturbances (less than 2 on the
Richter scale) that rational people would expect from such events.

A 1 kiloton explosion registers at about 4 on the Richter scale, a
fact that is widely known and trivial to verify.

Seismographs are trivial to make and since the invention of the PC it
has been trivial to record, store and analyze seismic data.

Real time seismic data from around the world is publicly available
on the Internet from many government, academic, and private sources.

Such data is not controlled by anyone; not the media and not any
governmental agency.

This alone is enough to disprove any nuclear devices were used on 9/11.

http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/aerospace/military/how-to-find-a-nuclear-explosion-in-north-korea
http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/seismic/WTC_PENT_KIM.htm
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/seismic.html

Be sure to follow all the links in the above links.

<snip remaining kook babble>


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#517163 — Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED and so does Jim

On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 17:06:03 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:

>
><jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message 
>news:3aa1bc-7ci.ln1@mail.specsol.com...
>> In sci.physics Bast <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> In sci.physics Bast <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <snip kook babble>
>>>>
>>>>> NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11 or
>>>>> since,  totally collapsed due to fire.
>>>>
>>>> An outright lie that is trivially verified by a simple web search.
>>>>
>>>> There have been hundreds of such collapes world wide, kook.
>>>
>>> Citations please.
>>
>> Like I said, a trivial web search, kook.
>
>You mean like this:  <G>
>
>Fires Have Never Caused Skyscrapers to Collapse
> http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/fires.html
>

     And fires alone did not cause the collapse of the twin towers or
#7.

>And I can personally vouch for the fact the First Interstate Bank Building 
>remained standing because I drove by there on my way to Redondo beach the 
>next morning and it was still standing strong.
>

     Unless the structural supports were damaged, your comparison is
nothing more than another example of your dishonesty.

>But too bad those are buildings that remained standing and not collapsed. 
><G>

     You wanted more destruction? Wow. You really are mentally ill.

>
>And don't forget that the reason that NIST claimed the Twin Towers collapsed 
>was complete and udder bullshit as proven by the following playlist:
>
>The Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvCuMULutHs&list=PLm5UJ3igmxaIBJw8yvK1-a9H_11kBDS8W

     This play list completely fails to prove what you claim it does.
     Would you like to try another lie?

-- 
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor

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#517233 — Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED and so does Jim

On 8/26/2015 5:06 PM, Rocky wrote:
> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message
> news:3aa1bc-7ci.ln1@mail.specsol.com...
>> In sci.physics Bast <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> In sci.physics Bast <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <snip kook babble>

>>>>> NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11 or
>>>>> since,  totally collapsed due to fire.
>>>>
>>>> An outright lie that is trivially verified by a simple web search.
>>>>
>>>> There have been hundreds of such collapes world wide, kook.
>>>
>>>

>>>
>>> Citations please.
>>
>> Like I said, a trivial web search, kook.
>
> You mean like this:  <G>
>
> Fires Have Never Caused Skyscrapers to Collapse

Liar


> And I can personally vouch for the fact the First Interstate Bank Building
> remained standing because I drove by there on my way to Redondo beach the
> next morning and it was still standing strong.

      your "vouch" is worth 1/2 dog turd in Redondo's yard.


> And don't forget that the reason that NIST claimed the Twin Towers collapsed
> was complete and udder bullshit as proven by the following playlist:
>

you bullshit have udders, mad-cow-brain k0ok,

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#517153

Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com, in <news:3aa1bc-7ci.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
did thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

> In sci.physics Bast <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:

>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>>> In sci.physics Bast <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip kook babble>

>>>> NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11 or
>>>> since,  totally collapsed due to fire.

Liar. There have been several. There are some listed below.

Now that you've been outed as a lying kook, what will you do? Lie some
more to cover up your having been caught in a lie? Bet. LOL

>>> An outright lie that is trivially verified by a simple web search.
>>>
>>> There have been hundreds of such collapes world wide, kook.

>> Citations please.

> Like I said, a trivial web search, kook.

We have to help out the Klooless Kooks, they're far too bogglebrained
to figure out that one button on Google. LOL

Message-ID: <a07468688db77a10dbf968ff5620e4c2@dizum.com>
====================================================
There is a long list of buildings that have had the spray-on
insulation and suffered fire damage resulting in partial or complete
collapse. The McCormick Center, the Sight and Sound Theater, the Kader
Toy Factory in Singapore, the Dogwood Elementary School in Virginia,
the Windsor Tower in Madrid, the Wisma Kosgoro in Jakarta, the Alexis
Nihon Plaza Montreal, One New York Plaza (connection bolts sheared
during fire, causing several steel filler beams on the 33-34th floors
to fall and rest on the bottom flanges of their supporting girders),
and several other examples.

And the complete list. 22 multi-story buildings from 1970 to 2002 have
collapsed solely from fire damage weakening their structural
integrity... 6 of them being steel-framed buildings, all of those 6
being taller than 20 stories:
<http://www.jensenhughes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/White_Paper_Historical_Survey_Building_Collapse_NIST_JBeitel-NIwankiw_OCT-2006.pdf>
====================================================

22 + 1... here's one that got hit with a plane, and had a fire that
resulted in a partial collapse: The Bijlmermeer Apartment Complex in	
Amsterdam Zuidoost, Netherlands.

23 + 1... here's one the report above didn't catch:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XMTALBYRNA>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsjfSG69Pik>

24 + 1... another the report above didn't catch:
The steel-framed Wal-Mart super-center in Searcy, AR.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g-3omP5YM8>
The fertilizer that spontaneously combusted was at the back rear
corner of the building, all the way across the store from the freight
roll-up door, along a large wide aisle at the back of the store that
had compost materials, wood, lawn care equipment, etc.... the rest of
the flammable materials in the building burned hot enough to not only
cause massive steel structural member sagging, but collapse of the
building. So don't even try the straw-man argument of "but it was an
ammonia nitrate fire, they burn hot!" because the entire fucking
structure sagged and collapsed, the fertilizer was a small amount at
the back rear of the store.

25 + 1... another the report above didn't catch:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmLvp0t2xDw>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mefKrzcG2H4>
Note that this is a wholly-steel structure building, without adequate
fireproofing, and it eventually collapsed... this is what fire does to
steel.

26 + 1... another the report above didn't catch:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVzrPaLRsfI>
A steel structure that completely collapsed after a fire due to no
fireproofing.

27 + 1... another the report above didn't catch:
Mission Bay fire and structural collapse on 3/11/14:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJLFez9kwd0>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx_G7G1R6Cg>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgtsBxalxzs>
The building was steel-framed, and had no fireproofing because it was
still under construction.

28 + 1... another the report above didn't catch:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6JzTYLuKQQ>
Ironically, in an insulation warehouse.

And of course, the wholly-steel constructed Oakland Freeway was built
*much* *MUCH* stronger than any skyscraper... it had to hold up
thousands of tons of moving vehicles *and* contend with the occasional
CA earthquake... yet in 19 minutes, with less fuel, and with much
larger steel beams than any that were in the WTC towers, the steel
became heat-weakened enough to collapse:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwOFLNiim3A>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tjs5ILNkJc>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH3gRwf4XIA>
You'll note the loud popping noises as the steel heated and expanded.
That is what fuel can do to steel.

Here's a good one... plane strike and collapse due to fire... listen
to the loud banging noises as the structural supports give way... and
that's in a small building... imagine how loud they'd be in a
skyscraper as it was collapsing:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVF0wce-AF4>

That the kooks cannot grasp the enormity of the forces involved leads
them to make false conclusions... and once emotionally invested in
their decision to remain uneducated, they continue to compound and
expand their stupidity and insanity, eventually culminating in the
hilariously wrong types of conclusions that kooks such as Michael
Scott Guthrie (aka Rocky) arrive at. This is the process that leads
them into insanity.

<snicker>

-- 

------------------------------------
Michael Scott Guthrie (aka Rocky)
336-643-6611
6913 Maynard Road
Summerfield, NC 27358-9206

Now that everyone knows who you are, they can get you the psychiatric
help you so desperately need. Perhaps they could call your mother
Paula S. Guthrie, given that you're in your 30's and you still live at
home with mommy... and Grandma Martha. LOL

Your brother Scott certainly won't be happy to know you're
embarrassing the Guthrie family name, how's he gonna find real estate
clients if everyone knows the Guthries are a pack of schizo kooks? LOL

Just how many backwoods redneck hillbillies can fit in one small 1200
sf 3bd/1.5 ba house?! Does RockyRetard share a bedroom with his
brother? Or do they make Grandma Martha sleep on the porch? LOL
------------------------------------

Michael Guthrie (aka Rocky), your brain is grasping at straws in
trying to avoid admitting *you* *are* *wrong*, and as your brain
becomes more and more desperate to avoid the truth we promulgate
(which utterly demolishes your kook conspiracy theory), it makes
larger and larger leaps of illogic.

For instance:
=============================
A) You said the satellite uplink inteference seen in the WCBS video
*you* *provided* was a nuke EMP, so your broken brain told you they
must have buried nukes under the twin towers. Being a simpleton, you
believed they just dug shallow holes, dropped the nukes in, smoothed
over the concrete and walked away for 33 years.

B) Your timing on the WCBS video *you* *provided* between the
satellite uplink interference (what you deemed to be a "nuke EMP") and
the tower falling being 12 seconds (it was actually 14 seconds, but
kooks can't count) means your supposed nukes had to have been buried
from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* below the surface (dependent upon soil
composition and thus speed of compressive blast transmission). Never
mind that we don't have the technology to drill that deep even today,
let alone in 1968. Your broken brain had to yet again change your
kooky little conspiracy theory to at least try to orient itself at
some acute angle to reality. So no "dug a shallow hole, dropped the
nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years" anymore, now it was
"dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up,
walked away for 33 years".

C) You're such a simpleton you didn't realize nukes require periodic
replacement of their neutron-source trigger, which naturally
radioactively decays over time, building up the decay byproduct xenon,
which absorbs neutrons. It's called xenon poisoning. So your broken
brain told you that someone had to service those nukes to keep the
triggers viable... which means your broken brain was thus *forced* to
change from "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up,
walked away for 33 years", to "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped
the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "built an
entire *facility* impossibly deep under the WTC, complete with service
personnel and" "4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back
into the area the nukes were maintained" (your words).

D) Your broken brain then said there were 19 nukes instead of your
original 3, because you knew there were 19 instances of satellite
uplink interference in the WCBS video *you* *provided*, in which you
k'lamed one of the instances of satellite uplink interference was an
EMP. And if you k'lame one of them is an EMP, they *all* must be EMPs,
so your broken brain now tells you there were 19 nukes detonated in
rapid succession... completely ignoring the fact that even one nuke
detonation would plunge the city into darkness due to EMP burning out
electrical substations, and completely ignoring the fact that no
nuclear detonation byproducts were found in the rubble, in the
vicinity of the rubble, or anywhere in NYC.

E) Now that your broken brain was convinced that the nukes were buried
deeply, of course, they had a very wide blast radius, which screwed up
your kooky k'lame that they were used to demolish WTC1 and WTC2, but
somehow missed WTC3 and WTC4... so your broken brain conceived that
the nuclear weapons could somehow dig themselves up from that
miles-deep facility to just below the WTC towers prior to exploding,
in order to make their cone of destruction smaller. Nevermind that
your broken brain said they dug through 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* of
*solid* *bedrock* in *12* *seconds*. LOL

F) So I've led you by the nose in a full circle... if those bombs your
broken brain is telling you existed *did* dig their way up to
underneath the WTC twin towers before detonating (they didn't... first
because there were no nukes, second because it'd be impossible, but
for the sake of argument, we'll continue), that leads right back to
your calculation of the time between your claimed "EMP" (the satellite
uplink interference on the WCBS video *you* *provided*) and the time
the buildings fell, which is pretty much where we started. So I've
proven by drop-kicking your retarded ass around the perimeter of
sanity full-circle that you're insane. LOL

G) Realizing the utter ridiculousness of your kook blather above, your
broken brain has backpedaled and expanded your delusion even more as a
desperate attempt at attaining some semblance of plausibility...
saying there were 34 mini-nukes, and they were within and underneath
the twin towers. If those 34 nukes you claim existed *did* explode,
where are the nuclear detonation byproducts? The highly radioactive
metal? The radiation burns and radiation sickness of people in the
vicinity? Where are the nuclear detonation signature seismographs? Why
did the electrical grid, all electronics and all vehicles survive not
just one but *34* nuclear EMPs? And what about that timing between the
WCBS video satellite uplink interference (what you claimed was "EMP")
and the shaking and collapse of the tower? That's now off by 14 whole
seconds, just as it was when your kooky conspiracy theory began. LOL

H) Your brain becoming more and more broken, in just one short day it
moved from G) above to now telling you there are *more* than 34 nukes.
Where does your broken brain stop, Ko0k? Billions of intelligent
nano-nukes covering every metal surface of the twin towers? Robot
"crisis actors" able to withstand the extreme radiation? All of NYC
being blow up, replaced by a CGI that we all are fooled by today? LOL

IOW, your broken brain is far too stupid to discern fantasy from
reality, so you've caught yourself in an unresolvable logic hole. And
the harder you try to resolve it, the more you run around in little
tard-circles, banging your head with your fist and doing your very
best Rainman impersonation. I can twist your brain into a Gordian Knot
with my knowledge. And I've just barely even started, I haven't even
worked up a sweat yet.
=============================

Kook. LOL

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#517000 — Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Jim is a LIAR

<jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message 
news:pcjuac-7ig.ln1@mail.specsol.com...
> In sci.physics Bast <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>
> <snip kook babble>
>
>> NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11 or
>> since,  totally collapsed due to fire.
>
> An outright lie that is trivially verified by a simple web search.

Too bad you can't use the story about the First Interstate Bank Building in 
LA because even though it burned and burned it was as tall before the fire 
as it was afterwards.


> There have been hundreds of such collapes world wide

LIAR LIAR LIAR and you are following suit with the other people that have 
lied about 9/11 like the EPA, the NNSA, NIST and the USGS.

Rocky 

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#517059 — Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Jim is a LIAR

In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
 
<snip raving kook babble>

Nothing left.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#517148 — Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Jim is a LIAR

On 8/26/2015 9:21 AM, Rocky wrote:
> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message
> news:pcjuac-7ig.ln1@mail.specsol.com...
>> In sci.physics Bast <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:

>> <snip kook babble>
>>
>>> NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11 or
>>> since,  totally collapsed due to fire.

>> An outright lie that is trivially verified by a simple web search.
>
> Too bad you can't use the story about the First Interstate Bank Building in
> LA because even though it burned and burned it was as tall before the fire
> as it was afterwards.
>
>
>> There have been hundreds of such collapes world wide
>
> LIAR LIAR LIAR and you are following suit with the other people that have
> lied about 9/11 like the EPA, the NNSA, NIST and the USGS.


is that the reason you LIE all the time ?

>
> Rocky
>
>

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#517159 — Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Jim is a LIAR

On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 09:21:55 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:

>
><jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message 
>news:pcjuac-7ig.ln1@mail.specsol.com...
>> In sci.physics Bast <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> <snip kook babble>
>>
>>> NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11 or
>>> since,  totally collapsed due to fire.
>>
>> An outright lie that is trivially verified by a simple web search.
>
>Too bad you can't use the story about the First Interstate Bank Building in 
>LA because even though it burned and burned it was as tall before the fire 
>as it was afterwards.
>

     Were its structural supports also damaged? If not, your dishonest
comparison fails.

>> There have been hundreds of such collapes world wide
>
>LIAR LIAR LIAR and you are following suit with the other people that have 
>lied about 9/11 like the EPA, the NNSA, NIST and the USGS.

     For anyone not yet aware, when someone is right, Rocky ALWAYS
repeats himself in all caps when replying. It's his tell.

-- 
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor

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#516824

In article <mrhvee$kav$1@dont-email.me>, fakename@nomail.invalid says...
> 
> Tony Dragon wrote:
> > On 25/08/2015 14:17, Bast wrote:
> >> Tony Dragon wrote:
> >>> On 24/08/2015 17:20, Rocky wrote:
> >>>> gilber34 you are a complete idiot because it doesn't really matter if
> >>>> the Twin Towers were nuked or not because all that really matters is
> >>>> we were given complete and udder bullshit by NIST about what really
> >>>> brought the Twin Towers down.
> >>>
> >>> About turn.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> NIST doest not have one fact to support their complete and udder
> >>>> bullshit and yet our whole policy that gets us in to war after war is
> >>>> based on
> >>>> believing the absolute bullshit that NIST gave us.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kevin Ryan, one of the people in the following videos was in on the
> >>>> testing that NIST did on the steel from the Twin Towers.  He knows
> >>>> better than
> >>>> anybody that the test NIST ran did not support their "Collapse
> >>>> Initiation hypothesis."
> >>>>
> >>>> If you are pissed because I go so far as to say both CGIs and Nukes
> >>>> were used in Nuke York City I can handle that but for you to ignore
> >>>> the fact that NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED is another issue entirely.
> >>>
> >>> But in the past you have said that the casualty list was fabricated.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It most certainly was.
> >> The first responders that died were never included as "9/11 casualties"
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmkNn6Huko0
> >>
> >> And were also dismissed as "kooks",...yet THEY WERE THERE.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > What were they reported as then?
> >
> > I am sure that there has been lists of for example fire service
> > casualties.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Not according to the US federal government.
> As they would have to answer questions of why so many of the 9/11 first 
> responders are now dead with cancer.
> 
> Much like after Hiroshima the victims years later were never considered 
> "casualties".
> 
> So I won't dismiss Rocky's claims of "nukes" being used that day, even if I 
> can not prove it.
> Especially since the feds were so concerned about making all the debris 
> vanish, so no one else could do a proper investigation.

It didn't vanish, idiot, there are all kinds of pics of it.

> 
> 
> There was no reason the debis couldn't have been stored somewhere in the US, 
> where proper impartial forensic investigations could be done.

No more investigation was needed.

> Particularly with the debris from WTC 7, which had no logical reason to 
> collapse.

In reality, it had a lot of reasons, but in trooferland, I suppose it 
didn't.

> 
> NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11 or 
> since,  totally collapsed due to fire.

BS. As ususal for a gullible troofer 

> And yet that day 3 buildings all suffered the same fate. And all were owned 
> by the same person.

Leased by the same person. Who lost a shitload of money.

-- 
BDK: Head Government Shill, and future Psychotronic World Dominator. 
Master of Remote Viewing. Level 5 expert in kOOkStudies.
Former FEMA camp activities director. Head Strategic Writer. Former 
Black Helicopter color consultant.

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#516971

BDK wrote:
> In article <mrhvee$kav$1@dont-email.me>, fakename@nomail.invalid says...
>>
>> Tony Dragon wrote:
>>> On 25/08/2015 14:17, Bast wrote:
>>>> Tony Dragon wrote:
>>>>> On 24/08/2015 17:20, Rocky wrote:
>>>>>> gilber34 you are a complete idiot because it doesn't really matter
>>>>>> if the Twin Towers were nuked or not because all that really
>>>>>> matters is we were given complete and udder bullshit by NIST about
>>>>>> what really brought the Twin Towers down.
>>>>>
>>>>> About turn.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NIST doest not have one fact to support their complete and udder
>>>>>> bullshit and yet our whole policy that gets us in to war after war
>>>>>> is based on
>>>>>> believing the absolute bullshit that NIST gave us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kevin Ryan, one of the people in the following videos was in on the
>>>>>> testing that NIST did on the steel from the Twin Towers.  He knows
>>>>>> better than
>>>>>> anybody that the test NIST ran did not support their "Collapse
>>>>>> Initiation hypothesis."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are pissed because I go so far as to say both CGIs and Nukes
>>>>>> were used in Nuke York City I can handle that but for you to ignore
>>>>>> the fact that NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED is another issue entirely.
>>>>>
>>>>> But in the past you have said that the casualty list was fabricated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It most certainly was.
>>>> The first responders that died were never included as "9/11
>>>> casualties"
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmkNn6Huko0
>>>>
>>>> And were also dismissed as "kooks",...yet THEY WERE THERE.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> What were they reported as then?
>>>
>>> I am sure that there has been lists of for example fire service
>>> casualties.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Not according to the US federal government.
>> As they would have to answer questions of why so many of the 9/11 first
>> responders are now dead with cancer.
>>
>> Much like after Hiroshima the victims years later were never considered
>> "casualties".
>>
>> So I won't dismiss Rocky's claims of "nukes" being used that day, even
>> if I can not prove it.
>> Especially since the feds were so concerned about making all the debris
>> vanish, so no one else could do a proper investigation.
>
> It didn't vanish, idiot, there are all kinds of pics of it.
>


Yes there was,....All over Manhattan and all the way out to New 
Jersey,.....DUST.
But why so much dust ?



>>
>>
>> There was no reason the debis couldn't have been stored somewhere in
>> the US, where proper impartial forensic investigations could be done.
>
> No more investigation was needed.




Well, since the government claimed they had all the proof and knew the whole 
story hours after 9/11 occurred but never tried to even stop it.
That alone warrants a further investigation.




>
>> Particularly with the debris from WTC 7, which had no logical reason to
>> collapse.
>
> In reality, it had a lot of reasons, but in trooferland, I suppose it
> didn't.






Not hit by any "planes", and no outwardly visible structural damage,.... but 
it collapsed completely just the same.

So please tell us all these "reasons" you speak of.







>
>>
>> NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11 or
>> since,  totally collapsed due to fire.
>
> BS. As ususal for a gullible troofer




Citations,....I'm waiting




>
>> And yet that day 3 buildings all suffered the same fate. And all were
>> owned by the same person.
>
> Leased by the same person. Who lost a shitload of money.




And poor "Pull It" Silverstein never got ANY insurance payments ?,.....how 
about DOUBLE + what the buildings actually were worth.
And since then anyone paying for insurance pays a little more to cover the 
payouts of 9/11

Your lack of actual facts is proving how much of an ignorant sheeple you 
are.
But one day the government will deem you "surplus expendable baggage", and 
turn you into their next false flag statistic.

Read up about the "thanks" the seal team that allegedly took out Osama got 
when the helicopter carrying them mysteriously crashed weeks later.
Dead men tell no tales, huh ?

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