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| From | Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> |
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| References | (2 earlier) <mrhu3h$d6l$1@dont-email.me> <mrhvee$kav$1@dont-email.me> <pcjuac-7ig.ln1@mail.specsol.com> <mrk1k3$e6m$1@dont-email.me> <3aa1bc-7ci.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| Subject | Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED |
| Message-ID | <0037adbb4faaa89a0727f1392e0f240e@dizum.com> (permalink) |
| Date | 2015-08-27 07:25 +0200 |
| Newsgroups | alt.astronomy, alt.conspiracy, alt.usenet.kooks, sci.physics |
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Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com, in <news:3aa1bc-7ci.ln1@mail.specsol.com> did thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again: > In sci.physics Bast <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote: >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> In sci.physics Bast <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote: >>> >>> <snip kook babble> >>>> NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11 or >>>> since, totally collapsed due to fire. Liar. There have been several. There are some listed below. Now that you've been outed as a lying kook, what will you do? Lie some more to cover up your having been caught in a lie? Bet. LOL >>> An outright lie that is trivially verified by a simple web search. >>> >>> There have been hundreds of such collapes world wide, kook. >> Citations please. > Like I said, a trivial web search, kook. We have to help out the Klooless Kooks, they're far too bogglebrained to figure out that one button on Google. LOL Message-ID: <a07468688db77a10dbf968ff5620e4c2@dizum.com> ==================================================== There is a long list of buildings that have had the spray-on insulation and suffered fire damage resulting in partial or complete collapse. The McCormick Center, the Sight and Sound Theater, the Kader Toy Factory in Singapore, the Dogwood Elementary School in Virginia, the Windsor Tower in Madrid, the Wisma Kosgoro in Jakarta, the Alexis Nihon Plaza Montreal, One New York Plaza (connection bolts sheared during fire, causing several steel filler beams on the 33-34th floors to fall and rest on the bottom flanges of their supporting girders), and several other examples. And the complete list. 22 multi-story buildings from 1970 to 2002 have collapsed solely from fire damage weakening their structural integrity... 6 of them being steel-framed buildings, all of those 6 being taller than 20 stories: <http://www.jensenhughes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/White_Paper_Historical_Survey_Building_Collapse_NIST_JBeitel-NIwankiw_OCT-2006.pdf> ==================================================== 22 + 1... here's one that got hit with a plane, and had a fire that resulted in a partial collapse: The Bijlmermeer Apartment Complex in Amsterdam Zuidoost, Netherlands. 23 + 1... here's one the report above didn't catch: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XMTALBYRNA> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsjfSG69Pik> 24 + 1... another the report above didn't catch: The steel-framed Wal-Mart super-center in Searcy, AR. <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g-3omP5YM8> The fertilizer that spontaneously combusted was at the back rear corner of the building, all the way across the store from the freight roll-up door, along a large wide aisle at the back of the store that had compost materials, wood, lawn care equipment, etc.... the rest of the flammable materials in the building burned hot enough to not only cause massive steel structural member sagging, but collapse of the building. So don't even try the straw-man argument of "but it was an ammonia nitrate fire, they burn hot!" because the entire fucking structure sagged and collapsed, the fertilizer was a small amount at the back rear of the store. 25 + 1... another the report above didn't catch: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmLvp0t2xDw> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mefKrzcG2H4> Note that this is a wholly-steel structure building, without adequate fireproofing, and it eventually collapsed... this is what fire does to steel. 26 + 1... another the report above didn't catch: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVzrPaLRsfI> A steel structure that completely collapsed after a fire due to no fireproofing. 27 + 1... another the report above didn't catch: Mission Bay fire and structural collapse on 3/11/14: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJLFez9kwd0> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx_G7G1R6Cg> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgtsBxalxzs> The building was steel-framed, and had no fireproofing because it was still under construction. 28 + 1... another the report above didn't catch: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6JzTYLuKQQ> Ironically, in an insulation warehouse. And of course, the wholly-steel constructed Oakland Freeway was built *much* *MUCH* stronger than any skyscraper... it had to hold up thousands of tons of moving vehicles *and* contend with the occasional CA earthquake... yet in 19 minutes, with less fuel, and with much larger steel beams than any that were in the WTC towers, the steel became heat-weakened enough to collapse: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwOFLNiim3A> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tjs5ILNkJc> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH3gRwf4XIA> You'll note the loud popping noises as the steel heated and expanded. That is what fuel can do to steel. Here's a good one... plane strike and collapse due to fire... listen to the loud banging noises as the structural supports give way... and that's in a small building... imagine how loud they'd be in a skyscraper as it was collapsing: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVF0wce-AF4> That the kooks cannot grasp the enormity of the forces involved leads them to make false conclusions... and once emotionally invested in their decision to remain uneducated, they continue to compound and expand their stupidity and insanity, eventually culminating in the hilariously wrong types of conclusions that kooks such as Michael Scott Guthrie (aka Rocky) arrive at. This is the process that leads them into insanity. <snicker> -- ------------------------------------ Michael Scott Guthrie (aka Rocky) 336-643-6611 6913 Maynard Road Summerfield, NC 27358-9206 Now that everyone knows who you are, they can get you the psychiatric help you so desperately need. Perhaps they could call your mother Paula S. Guthrie, given that you're in your 30's and you still live at home with mommy... and Grandma Martha. LOL Your brother Scott certainly won't be happy to know you're embarrassing the Guthrie family name, how's he gonna find real estate clients if everyone knows the Guthries are a pack of schizo kooks? LOL Just how many backwoods redneck hillbillies can fit in one small 1200 sf 3bd/1.5 ba house?! Does RockyRetard share a bedroom with his brother? Or do they make Grandma Martha sleep on the porch? LOL ------------------------------------ Michael Guthrie (aka Rocky), your brain is grasping at straws in trying to avoid admitting *you* *are* *wrong*, and as your brain becomes more and more desperate to avoid the truth we promulgate (which utterly demolishes your kook conspiracy theory), it makes larger and larger leaps of illogic. For instance: ============================= A) You said the satellite uplink inteference seen in the WCBS video *you* *provided* was a nuke EMP, so your broken brain told you they must have buried nukes under the twin towers. Being a simpleton, you believed they just dug shallow holes, dropped the nukes in, smoothed over the concrete and walked away for 33 years. B) Your timing on the WCBS video *you* *provided* between the satellite uplink interference (what you deemed to be a "nuke EMP") and the tower falling being 12 seconds (it was actually 14 seconds, but kooks can't count) means your supposed nukes had to have been buried from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* below the surface (dependent upon soil composition and thus speed of compressive blast transmission). Never mind that we don't have the technology to drill that deep even today, let alone in 1968. Your broken brain had to yet again change your kooky little conspiracy theory to at least try to orient itself at some acute angle to reality. So no "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years" anymore, now it was "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years". C) You're such a simpleton you didn't realize nukes require periodic replacement of their neutron-source trigger, which naturally radioactively decays over time, building up the decay byproduct xenon, which absorbs neutrons. It's called xenon poisoning. So your broken brain told you that someone had to service those nukes to keep the triggers viable... which means your broken brain was thus *forced* to change from "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "built an entire *facility* impossibly deep under the WTC, complete with service personnel and" "4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back into the area the nukes were maintained" (your words). D) Your broken brain then said there were 19 nukes instead of your original 3, because you knew there were 19 instances of satellite uplink interference in the WCBS video *you* *provided*, in which you k'lamed one of the instances of satellite uplink interference was an EMP. And if you k'lame one of them is an EMP, they *all* must be EMPs, so your broken brain now tells you there were 19 nukes detonated in rapid succession... completely ignoring the fact that even one nuke detonation would plunge the city into darkness due to EMP burning out electrical substations, and completely ignoring the fact that no nuclear detonation byproducts were found in the rubble, in the vicinity of the rubble, or anywhere in NYC. E) Now that your broken brain was convinced that the nukes were buried deeply, of course, they had a very wide blast radius, which screwed up your kooky k'lame that they were used to demolish WTC1 and WTC2, but somehow missed WTC3 and WTC4... so your broken brain conceived that the nuclear weapons could somehow dig themselves up from that miles-deep facility to just below the WTC towers prior to exploding, in order to make their cone of destruction smaller. Nevermind that your broken brain said they dug through 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* of *solid* *bedrock* in *12* *seconds*. LOL F) So I've led you by the nose in a full circle... if those bombs your broken brain is telling you existed *did* dig their way up to underneath the WTC twin towers before detonating (they didn't... first because there were no nukes, second because it'd be impossible, but for the sake of argument, we'll continue), that leads right back to your calculation of the time between your claimed "EMP" (the satellite uplink interference on the WCBS video *you* *provided*) and the time the buildings fell, which is pretty much where we started. So I've proven by drop-kicking your retarded ass around the perimeter of sanity full-circle that you're insane. LOL G) Realizing the utter ridiculousness of your kook blather above, your broken brain has backpedaled and expanded your delusion even more as a desperate attempt at attaining some semblance of plausibility... saying there were 34 mini-nukes, and they were within and underneath the twin towers. If those 34 nukes you claim existed *did* explode, where are the nuclear detonation byproducts? The highly radioactive metal? The radiation burns and radiation sickness of people in the vicinity? Where are the nuclear detonation signature seismographs? Why did the electrical grid, all electronics and all vehicles survive not just one but *34* nuclear EMPs? And what about that timing between the WCBS video satellite uplink interference (what you claimed was "EMP") and the shaking and collapse of the tower? That's now off by 14 whole seconds, just as it was when your kooky conspiracy theory began. LOL H) Your brain becoming more and more broken, in just one short day it moved from G) above to now telling you there are *more* than 34 nukes. Where does your broken brain stop, Ko0k? Billions of intelligent nano-nukes covering every metal surface of the twin towers? Robot "crisis actors" able to withstand the extreme radiation? All of NYC being blow up, replaced by a CGI that we all are fooled by today? LOL IOW, your broken brain is far too stupid to discern fantasy from reality, so you've caught yourself in an unresolvable logic hole. And the harder you try to resolve it, the more you run around in little tard-circles, banging your head with your fist and doing your very best Rainman impersonation. I can twist your brain into a Gordian Knot with my knowledge. And I've just barely even started, I haven't even worked up a sweat yet. ============================= Kook. LOL
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Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-24 11:20 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 16:48 +0000
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-24 12:27 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 17:55 +0000
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-25 12:34 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-24 22:12 +0100
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-25 09:17 -0400
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-25 15:30 +0100
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-25 10:53 -0400
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-25 10:15 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-25 11:35 -0400
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-25 11:02 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-25 11:09 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-25 14:03 -0400
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-25 19:52 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 21:18 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-26 16:25 -0400
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 04:23 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-27 09:45 -0400
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 21:18 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-25 10:36 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-25 20:50 +0100
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-25 16:57 +0000
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-25 14:06 -0400
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-26 05:43 -0400
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 17:40 +0000
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED 9/11 "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-26 17:19 -0400
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED 9/11 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 22:00 +0000
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED and so does Jim "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-26 17:06 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED and so does Jim jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 23:01 +0000
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED and so does Jim gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 12:51 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-27 07:25 +0200
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Jim is a LIAR "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-26 09:21 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Jim is a LIAR jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 17:41 +0000
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Jim is a LIAR gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-26 22:37 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-25 14:01 -0400
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-26 06:02 -0400
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-26 16:36 -0400
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-26 14:08 -0700
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-26 18:26 -0400
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 04:21 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-27 18:54 +0200
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 20:01 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-28 05:53 +0200
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BKD is BAD "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-26 09:47 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BKD is BAD jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 17:43 +0000
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BKD is BAD gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 12:57 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 21:18 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-26 06:05 -0400
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 04:21 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-29 10:38 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-29 16:27 +0000
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-29 11:50 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-29 17:40 +0000
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-29 12:57 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-29 18:11 +0000
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-29 19:31 +0100
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 15:56 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent can not provide one iota of evidence "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-29 18:50 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent can not provide one iota of evidence jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-30 01:28 +0000
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent can not provide one iota of evidence gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-29 22:27 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent can not provide one iota of evidence "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 04:41 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-26 09:17 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 17:48 +0000
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED (I did not see a plane go in) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-26 15:07 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED (I did not see a plane go in) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 20:36 +0000
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED (I did not see a plane go in) gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 12:53 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 12:56 -0500
Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-24 20:28 -0500
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