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  "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-12-22 10:34 -0800
    Re: "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 16:15 -0800
    Re: "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-22 17:27 -0800
      Re: "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-22 17:28 -0800
        "Time is money" and "Buy some time". Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-12-22 19:45 -0800
          Re: "Time is money" and "Buy some time". "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-22 20:56 -0800
            We value society. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-12-22 21:41 -0800
              Re: We value society. Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-12-23 00:42 -0600
              Re: We value society. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-22 22:47 -0800
                Don't get banished to the "woods" (jail). Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-12-23 13:38 -0800
    Re: "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-23 03:43 +0000
      "Time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter." Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-12-22 19:54 -0800
        Re: "Time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter." moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-23 04:53 +0000
          No fifth dimension. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-12-22 21:54 -0800
            Re: No fifth dimension. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-22 21:57 -0800
            Re: No fifth dimension. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-23 21:58 +0000

#720215 — "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable.

Branimir replied:
> > Time has no value in your mind ?
> 
> Nope, because it doesn't exist.

Time = Money = Fuel

I ran out of  Time  because I didn't have  Money to buy more  Fuel.
I ran out of  Money because I didn't have  Fuel  to buy more  Time.
I ran out of  Fuel  because I didn't have  Money to buy more  Time.

"God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable, 
changeless and timeless, both everything and nothing.
Randomness is ignorance ( nothing more, nothing less ).

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#720289

On Saturday, December 22, 2018 at 10:35:01 AM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> Branimir replied:
> > > Time has no value in your mind ?
> > 
> > Nope, because it doesn't exist.
> 
> Time = Money = Fuel
> 
> I ran out of  Time  because I didn't have  Money to buy more  Fuel.
> I ran out of  Money because I didn't have  Fuel  to buy more  Time.
> I ran out of  Fuel  because I didn't have  Money to buy more  Time.
> 
> "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable, 
> changeless and timeless, both everything and nothing.
> Randomness is ignorance ( nothing more, nothing less ).

Time waits for nothing.It gives reality to demensions .You can have a good time or a bad time.Without time you could get lost.Past time we know about(its history) future time is easy in second.Very hard to predict the longer time is.I had a horse finish in a dead heat.It was a mile race.Think of that.Bert

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#720293

On 12/22/2018 10:34 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> Branimir replied:
>>> Time has no value in your mind ?
>>
>> Nope, because it doesn't exist.
> 
> Time = Money = Fuel
> 
> I ran out of  Time  because I didn't have  Money to buy more  Fuel.
> I ran out of  Money because I didn't have  Fuel  to buy more  Time.
> I ran out of  Fuel  because I didn't have  Money to buy more  Time.

Why do you need money to buy time?

> 
> "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable,
> changeless and timeless, both everything and nothing.
> Randomness is ignorance ( nothing more, nothing less ).
> 

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#720295

On 12/22/2018 5:27 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 12/22/2018 10:34 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>> Branimir replied:
>>>> Time has no value in your mind ?
>>>
>>> Nope, because it doesn't exist.
>>
>> Time = Money = Fuel
>>
>> I ran out of  Time  because I didn't have  Money to buy more  Fuel.
>> I ran out of  Money because I didn't have  Fuel  to buy more  Time.
>> I ran out of  Fuel  because I didn't have  Money to buy more  Time.
> 
> Why do you need money to buy time?

Do you get charged a dollar amount for each minute you are alive?

> 
>>
>> "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable,
>> changeless and timeless, both everything and nothing.
>> Randomness is ignorance ( nothing more, nothing less ).
>>
> 

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#720324 — "Time is money" and "Buy some time".

Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > Why do you need money to buy time ?
> 
> Do you get charged a dollar amount for each minute you are alive ?

"Time is money" and "Buy some time" are well-known colloquialisms.
Do you know what a "timeshare" is ?
How about "doing time" or "I paid my time" ?
Have you ever rented a hotel for a night, a week, or a month ?
How much did it cost ?

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#720339 — Re: "Time is money" and "Buy some time".

On 12/22/2018 7:45 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>> Why do you need money to buy time ?
>>
>> Do you get charged a dollar amount for each minute you are alive ?
> 
> "Time is money" and "Buy some time" are well-known colloquialisms.

Indeed.

> Do you know what a "timeshare" is ?

Big time.

> How about "doing time" or "I paid my time" ?

Again, yes.

> Have you ever rented a hotel for a night, a week, or a month ?

Yes.

> How much did it cost ?

Sometimes, many hundreds of dollars.

> 

I am talking about being charged for being. Are you being charged right now?

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#720352 — We value society.

Chris M. Thomasson asked:
> > > Do you get charged a dollar amount for each minute you are alive ?
> 
> I am talking about being charged for being.
> Are you being charged right now ?

One can live without money ( in jail, or in the sticks ),
but it's not the preferred way to go.
We value society, so we follow the rules and pay taxes.

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#720369 — Re: We value society.

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#720371 — Re: We value society.

On 12/22/2018 9:41 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> Chris M. Thomasson asked:
>>>> Do you get charged a dollar amount for each minute you are alive ?
>>
>> I am talking about being charged for being.
>> Are you being charged right now ?
> 
> One can live without money ( in jail, or in the sticks ),
> but it's not the preferred way to go.
> We value society, so we follow the rules and pay taxes.
> 

Is one being charged to observe a sunset while in the "sticks"?

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#720450 — Don't get banished to the "woods" (jail).

Chris M. Thomasson asked:
> Is one being charged to observe a sunset while in the "sticks"?

Yes, because that's time you could've SPENT eating pizza,
or earning "money", to pay your "taxes", 
so you don't get banished to the "woods" (jail).

Thank you for SPENDING time with me.

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#720323

Jeff-Relf.Me  @. writes:

>"God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable, 
>changeless and timeless, both everything and nothing.

Static/changeless with respect to what? What is this additional dimension
in which "spacetime" is static? What is the manifestation of this new
fifth dimension in our universe?

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#720326 — "Time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter."

Michael replied:
> > "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable, 
> > changeless and timeless, both everything and nothing.
> > Randomness is ignorance ( nothing more, nothing less ).
> 
> Static/changeless with respect to what ?  What is this additional dimension
> in which "spacetime" is static ?  What is the manifestation of this new
> fifth dimension in our universe ?

No fifth dimension, sorry.

Einstein wrote:

  Time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter.

  [SpaceTime] may not be thought of as endowed with
  the quality characteristic of ponderable media,
  as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time.

  The idea of motion may not be applied to it.

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#720336 — Re: "Time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter."

Jeff-Relf.Me  @. writes:

>Michael replied:
>> > "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable, 
>> > changeless and timeless, both everything and nothing.
>> > Randomness is ignorance ( nothing more, nothing less ).
>> 
>> Static/changeless with respect to what ?  What is this additional dimension
>> in which "spacetime" is static ?  What is the manifestation of this new
>> fifth dimension in our universe ?

>No fifth dimension, sorry.

So your claim makes no sense. Static/changeless but not with respect
to anything. Meaningless.

For instance, you can't just say a point is static on the x axis.
Static with respect to what? Time? Perhaps, that means the point does not
move, its position does not depend on time.  Another axis, such as the Y
axis? That also makes sense, it would mean that the x position does not
depend on its y position. A straight line graph.

In the same way, spacetime of 4 dimensions cannot just be static, if you
claim there is no fifth dimension it is static in. It makes no sense.

(yes I know you are just repeatingly babbling the same meaningless phrase
over and over, like another poster babbles "Einstein the nitwit,
plagiarist and liar" or another "t'=t with the precision of an acceptable
error". Some sort of chant that makes them feel good, I guess)

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#720353 — No fifth dimension.

Michael replied:
> > > > "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable, 
> > > > changeless and timeless, both everything and nothing.
> > > > Randomness is ignorance ( nothing more, nothing less ).
> > > 
> > No fifth dimension.  The idea of motion may not be applied to it.
> 
> Your claim makes no sense. 
> Static/changeless but not with respect to anything.  Meaningless.

Suppose there were two temporal dimensions dimensions, instead of one.
Then space-time would not be static.

Science fiction lovers like to imagine eleven dimensions,
and there are far more of them than "Einsteins";
otherwise there'd be nothing special about Einstein ( and me ).

Einstein wrote:

  Time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter.

  [SpaceTime] may not be thought of as endowed with
  the quality characteristic of ponderable media,
  as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time.

  The idea of motion may not be applied to it.

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#720354 — Re: No fifth dimension.

On 12/22/2018 9:54 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> Michael replied:
>>>>> "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable,
>>>>> changeless and timeless, both everything and nothing.
>>>>> Randomness is ignorance ( nothing more, nothing less ).
>>>>
>>> No fifth dimension.  The idea of motion may not be applied to it.
>>
>> Your claim makes no sense.
>> Static/changeless but not with respect to anything.  Meaningless.
> 
> Suppose there were two temporal dimensions dimensions, instead of one.
> Then space-time would not be static.
> 
> Science fiction lovers like to imagine eleven dimensions,
> and there are far more of them than "Einsteins";
> otherwise there'd be nothing special about Einstein ( and me ).
> 
> Einstein wrote:
> 
>    Time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter.
> 
>    [SpaceTime] may not be thought of as endowed with
>    the quality characteristic of ponderable media,
>    as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time.
> 
>    The idea of motion may not be applied to it.
> 

Check this out:

https://youtu.be/eGguwYPC32I
(watch all...)

;^)

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#720452 — Re: No fifth dimension.

Jeff-Relf.Me  @. writes:

>Michael replied:
>> > > > "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable, 
>> > > > changeless and timeless, both everything and nothing.
>> > > > Randomness is ignorance ( nothing more, nothing less ).
>> > > 
>> > No fifth dimension.  The idea of motion may not be applied to it.
>> 
>> Your claim makes no sense. 
>> Static/changeless but not with respect to anything.  Meaningless.

>Suppose there were two temporal dimensions dimensions, instead of one.
>Then space-time would not be static.

So now you are saying the fifth dimension (three spacial, two temporal)
would a second temporal dimension.  Which conflicts with youe claim of
no fifth dimension. Make up your mind????

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