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Re: "Time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter."

From	moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: "Time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter."
Date	2018-12-23 04:53 +0000
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Jeff-Relf.Me  @. writes:

>Michael replied:
>> > "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable, 
>> > changeless and timeless, both everything and nothing.
>> > Randomness is ignorance ( nothing more, nothing less ).
>> 
>> Static/changeless with respect to what ?  What is this additional dimension
>> in which "spacetime" is static ?  What is the manifestation of this new
>> fifth dimension in our universe ?

>No fifth dimension, sorry.

So your claim makes no sense. Static/changeless but not with respect
to anything. Meaningless.

For instance, you can't just say a point is static on the x axis.
Static with respect to what? Time? Perhaps, that means the point does not
move, its position does not depend on time.  Another axis, such as the Y
axis? That also makes sense, it would mean that the x position does not
depend on its y position. A straight line graph.

In the same way, spacetime of 4 dimensions cannot just be static, if you
claim there is no fifth dimension it is static in. It makes no sense.

(yes I know you are just repeatingly babbling the same meaningless phrase
over and over, like another poster babbles "Einstein the nitwit,
plagiarist and liar" or another "t'=t with the precision of an acceptable
error". Some sort of chant that makes them feel good, I guess)

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"God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-12-22 10:34 -0800
  Re: "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 16:15 -0800
  Re: "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-22 17:27 -0800
    Re: "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-22 17:28 -0800
      "Time is money" and "Buy some time". Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-12-22 19:45 -0800
        Re: "Time is money" and "Buy some time". "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-22 20:56 -0800
          We value society. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-12-22 21:41 -0800
            Re: We value society. Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-12-23 00:42 -0600
            Re: We value society. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-22 22:47 -0800
              Don't get banished to the "woods" (jail). Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-12-23 13:38 -0800
  Re: "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-23 03:43 +0000
    "Time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter." Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-12-22 19:54 -0800
      Re: "Time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter." moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-23 04:53 +0000
        No fifth dimension. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-12-22 21:54 -0800
          Re: No fifth dimension. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-22 21:57 -0800
          Re: No fifth dimension. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-23 21:58 +0000

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