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There Is Only One Universe

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2018-06-23 11:45 -0700
Last post2018-06-23 15:24 -0700
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  There Is Only One Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-23 11:45 -0700
    Re: There Is Only One Universe casagiannoni@optonline.net - 2018-06-23 14:57 -0400
      Re: There Is Only One Universe benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-23 16:30 -0400
        Re: There Is Only One Universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-06-23 13:55 -0700
        Re: There Is Only One Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-23 14:05 -0700
          Re: There Is Only One Universe "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-23 14:22 -0700
        Re: There Is Only One Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-23 14:09 -0700
          Re: There Is Only One Universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-06-23 14:20 -0700
          Re: There Is Only One Universe benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-23 17:24 -0400
        Re: There Is Only One Universe casagiannoni@optonline.net - 2018-06-23 17:59 -0400
    Re: There Is Only One Universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-06-23 13:20 -0700
    Re: There Is Only One Universe benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-23 16:26 -0400
    Re: There Is Only One Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-23 14:05 -0700
    Re: There Is Only One Universe "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-23 14:20 -0700
      Re: There Is Only One Universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-06-23 14:27 -0700
      Re: There Is Only One Universe benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-23 17:29 -0400
        Re: There Is Only One Universe "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-23 14:42 -0700
          Re: There Is Only One Universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-06-23 15:08 -0700
          Re: There Is Only One Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-23 16:46 -0700
            Re: There Is Only One Universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-06-23 16:49 -0700
            Re: There Is Only One Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-24 01:30 -0700
              Re: There Is Only One Universe "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-24 20:07 -0700
        Re: There Is Only One Universe "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 19:38 -0700
          Re: There Is Only One Universe "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-06-25 19:52 -0700
          Re: There Is Only One Universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-06-25 20:06 -0700
            Re: There Is Only One Universe "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-25 23:55 -0700
              Re: There Is Only One Universe "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-25 23:56 -0700
                Re: There Is Only One Universe "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-26 00:01 -0700
    Re: There Is Only One Universe "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 14:30 -0700
      Re: There Is Only One Universe "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-06-23 15:24 -0700

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#691721

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-06-24 01:30 -0700
Message-ID<5B2F56B3.60A5@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#691702
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >
> > On 6/23/2018 2:29 PM, benj wrote:
> > > On 6/23/2018 5:20 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > >> On 6/23/2018 11:45 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>> Count it...1
> > >>>
> > >>> only One universe
> > >>
> > >> Okay. Let say that is true. I really do not know for sure anyway.
> > >>
> > >> What about a shape like the Koch curve that is basically finite in
> > >> size to the eye, yet has an infinite border structure such that it
> > >> cannot be measured unless we totally halt iteration.
> > >>
> > >> What about the Mandelbrot set, one main "largest" shape, with an
> > >> infinite border. Afaict, the border of a fractal is kind of like an
> > >> event horizon.
> > >
> > > Yep. Take the Koch geometric figure which has an infinite perimeter
> > > which seems to say it is infinite in size, but clearly one can draw a
> > > line around that figure that is finite in length!
> >
> > We can only draw the 100% complete Koch curve at a given iteration
> > level. If we take the iterations as never stopping, as if running in
> > another thread of execution, well, we would have a hard, basically
> > impossible time, drawing it. As soon as one plotted a portion, the
> > iteration would come around an make the plot instantly out of date!
> 
> Oh, the Koch curve...
> 
> I know that actual name for it but it slip my mind...correct me if I'm wrong...
> 
> It is a dimension in the middle of one and two.
> It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between 1 and 2, dimension 1 1/2 .
> Between a line and a surface. This is the dimension of fractional.
> It is an area which we call the...The Koch Curve.
> 
> DEE-DEE dee-dee DEE-DEE dee-dee . . .


I mean...are you people serious??? I write There Is Only One Universe

and yous come with some 'Koch curve' kook that believes there is a ...one and a half dimensional universe????


Is this a joke? Is there a guy behind the curtain laughing?



Should I go get the witches broom?

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#691788

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
Date2018-06-24 20:07 -0700
Message-ID<pgpm9e$jul$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#691721
On 6/24/2018 1:30 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>
>>> On 6/23/2018 2:29 PM, benj wrote:
>>>> On 6/23/2018 5:20 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>> On 6/23/2018 11:45 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> Count it...1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> only One universe
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay. Let say that is true. I really do not know for sure anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> What about a shape like the Koch curve that is basically finite in
>>>>> size to the eye, yet has an infinite border structure such that it
>>>>> cannot be measured unless we totally halt iteration.
>>>>>
>>>>> What about the Mandelbrot set, one main "largest" shape, with an
>>>>> infinite border. Afaict, the border of a fractal is kind of like an
>>>>> event horizon.
>>>>
>>>> Yep. Take the Koch geometric figure which has an infinite perimeter
>>>> which seems to say it is infinite in size, but clearly one can draw a
>>>> line around that figure that is finite in length!
>>>
>>> We can only draw the 100% complete Koch curve at a given iteration
>>> level. If we take the iterations as never stopping, as if running in
>>> another thread of execution, well, we would have a hard, basically
>>> impossible time, drawing it. As soon as one plotted a portion, the
>>> iteration would come around an make the plot instantly out of date!
>>
>> Oh, the Koch curve...
>>
>> I know that actual name for it but it slip my mind...correct me if I'm wrong...
>>
>> It is a dimension in the middle of one and two.
>> It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between 1 and 2, dimension 1 1/2 .
>> Between a line and a surface. This is the dimension of fractional.
>> It is an area which we call the...The Koch Curve.
>>
>> DEE-DEE dee-dee DEE-DEE dee-dee . . .
> 
> 
> I mean...are you people serious??? I write There Is Only One Universe
> 
> and yous come with some 'Koch curve' kook that believes there is a ...one and a half dimensional universe????
> 
> 
> Is this a joke? Is there a guy behind the curtain laughing?
> 
> 
> 
> Should I go get the witches broom?
> 

lol!

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#691887

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-25 19:38 -0700
Message-ID<b0b7f9ec-4dfe-4d72-9f96-60d9b3ddb453@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#691678
On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 2:29:25 PM UTC-7, benj wrote:
> On 6/23/2018 5:20 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > On 6/23/2018 11:45 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> Count it...1
> >>
> >> only One universe
> > 
> > Okay. Let say that is true. I really do not know for sure anyway.
> > 
> > What about a shape like the Koch curve that is basically finite in size 
> > to the eye, yet has an infinite border structure such that it cannot be 
> > measured unless we totally halt iteration.
> > 
> > What about the Mandelbrot set, one main "largest" shape, with an 
> > infinite border. Afaict, the border of a fractal is kind of like an 
> > event horizon.
> 
> Yep. Take the Koch geometric figure which has an infinite perimeter 
> which seems to say it is infinite in size, but clearly one can draw a 
> line around that figure that is finite in length!
> 
> You following this Faker? Or are you still an idiot?

There has to be two.One - and other +.Ours is -.Treb told me this 22 years ago,and I've posted it many times.Other than charge and time lapse they started off exactly the same right down to the number of electrons.Bert

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#691889

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2018-06-25 19:52 -0700
Message-ID<pgs9pd$ke5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#691887
So, Glazier you twisted Swine, did you auction off
the bucket that you shit into in your stinky and
defective van to finally make some honest money,
for the 1st tine, in your useless life, given that your
email address of  herbertglazier0@gmail.com
anagrams to  reber_A.Hitler_z0g@gmail.com_ ,
>
since Hitler's two knives, three spoons & 3  forks
that bear the Nazi eagle, swastika & Hitler's initials
were sold for £12,500 in Dorset,
>
or are you only interested in being nothing but a
Face-Shitter and a criminal Graveyard Vandal who
is seeking Pity, Sympathy  and Approval with
your promulgation of the following:
>
(1)
On 07Feb 2015 & on 08Feb2015, when Face-Shitter Glazier wrote:
Harlow Campbell HVAC, Mr.HVAC@gmail.com,
& Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net
& Jacoby Benj, <nobody@gmail.com>:
"I'll be sitting on your faces to take a shit & say: "Open wide".
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
>
(2)
On 06Dec2014, when the Christian-Hater, JewPigBert Glazier
said to "benj" <nobody@gmail.com>:
"Reality is you always post under me for you are an ass kisser.
For Christmas I'll shit on your kisser."
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
"Benj, you can thank me in advance". - TreBert. ... addinng
>
(3)
On 03Aug2017:
"benj, you eat shit and your shitty brain is coming out your ears."
>
(4)
On 25Mar2008, Graveyard Vandal Glazier wrote in:
<https://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/3ffe7b2257cf8a9a>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/sci.physics/uYtpFTRnW4k/morPVyJ7_j8J>
"Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And have a good laugh
when it seeps down on your face". --  Bert
>
(5)
On 24Jun2018 SwineBert Glazier said to
Mark Earnest <gmearnest@att.net> "your nose is
in a shit bucket all the time. Eat shit and you fit" -- Bert

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#691891

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-06-25 20:06 -0700
Message-ID<a0fdf925-90df-48cc-9ac4-782600492509@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#691887
On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 7:38:49 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 2:29:25 PM UTC-7, benj wrote:
> > On 6/23/2018 5:20 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > > On 6/23/2018 11:45 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >> Count it...1
> > >>
> > >> only One universe
> > > 
> > > Okay. Let say that is true. I really do not know for sure anyway.
> > > 
> > > What about a shape like the Koch curve that is basically finite in size 
> > > to the eye, yet has an infinite border structure such that it cannot be 
> > > measured unless we totally halt iteration.
> > > 
> > > What about the Mandelbrot set, one main "largest" shape, with an 
> > > infinite border. Afaict, the border of a fractal is kind of like an 
> > > event horizon.
> > 
> > Yep. Take the Koch geometric figure which has an infinite perimeter 
> > which seems to say it is infinite in size, but clearly one can draw a 
> > line around that figure that is finite in length!
> > 
> > You following this Faker? Or are you still an idiot?
> 
> There has to be two.One - and other +.Ours is -.Treb told me this 22 years ago,and I've posted it many times.Other than charge and time lapse they started off exactly the same right down to the number of electrons.Bert

The anti's don't exist. We only entertain them.
Hawking's negative energy doesn't exist...
But where in the universe is anti light?
If we capture anti atom where did it come from?
What was it with? The real matter...
It would have annihilated in the process of
attempting to contain it in real matter that
it was with.

Rate doesn't run backwards...

Stop with some other universe we could never
verify in order to be part of what is proven.
 
Mitchell Raemsch

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#691910

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
Date2018-06-25 23:55 -0700
Message-ID<pgso0d$d64$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#691891
On 6/25/2018 8:06 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 7:38:49 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>> On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 2:29:25 PM UTC-7, benj wrote:
>>> On 6/23/2018 5:20 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>> On 6/23/2018 11:45 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Count it...1
>>>>>
>>>>> only One universe
>>>>
>>>> Okay. Let say that is true. I really do not know for sure anyway.
>>>>
>>>> What about a shape like the Koch curve that is basically finite in size
>>>> to the eye, yet has an infinite border structure such that it cannot be
>>>> measured unless we totally halt iteration.
>>>>
>>>> What about the Mandelbrot set, one main "largest" shape, with an
>>>> infinite border. Afaict, the border of a fractal is kind of like an
>>>> event horizon.
>>>
>>> Yep. Take the Koch geometric figure which has an infinite perimeter
>>> which seems to say it is infinite in size, but clearly one can draw a
>>> line around that figure that is finite in length!

Draw your line... Then zoom in, and you will see how off it really is 
wrt this fresh new zoom level. You will never be able to draw the border.





>>>
>>> You following this Faker? Or are you still an idiot?
>>
>> There has to be two.One - and other +.Ours is -.Treb told me this 22 years ago,and I've posted it many times.Other than charge and time lapse they started off exactly the same right down to the number of electrons.Bert
> 
> The anti's don't exist. We only entertain them.
> Hawking's negative energy doesn't exist...
> But where in the universe is anti light?
> If we capture anti atom where did it come from?
> What was it with? The real matter...
> It would have annihilated in the process of
> attempting to contain it in real matter that
> it was with.
> 
> Rate doesn't run backwards...
> 
> Stop with some other universe we could never
> verify in order to be part of what is proven.
>   
> Mitchell Raemsch
> 

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#691911

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
Date2018-06-25 23:56 -0700
Message-ID<pgso2d$d64$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#691910
On 6/25/2018 11:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 6/25/2018 8:06 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 7:38:49 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>> On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 2:29:25 PM UTC-7, benj wrote:
>>>> On 6/23/2018 5:20 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>> On 6/23/2018 11:45 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> Count it...1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> only One universe
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay. Let say that is true. I really do not know for sure anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> What about a shape like the Koch curve that is basically finite in 
>>>>> size
>>>>> to the eye, yet has an infinite border structure such that it 
>>>>> cannot be
>>>>> measured unless we totally halt iteration.
>>>>>
>>>>> What about the Mandelbrot set, one main "largest" shape, with an
>>>>> infinite border. Afaict, the border of a fractal is kind of like an
>>>>> event horizon.
>>>>
>>>> Yep. Take the Koch geometric figure which has an infinite perimeter
>>>> which seems to say it is infinite in size, but clearly one can draw a
>>>> line around that figure that is finite in length!
> 
> Draw your line... Then zoom in, and you will see how off it really is 
> wrt this fresh new zoom level. You will never be able to draw the border.

Forgot to mention that as we zoom in, we need to increase the iteration 
level accordingly.

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>>>
>>>> You following this Faker? Or are you still an idiot?
>>>
>>> There has to be two.One - and other +.Ours is -.Treb told me this 22 
>>> years ago,and I've posted it many times.Other than charge and time 
>>> lapse they started off exactly the same right down to the number of 
>>> electrons.Bert
>>
>> The anti's don't exist. We only entertain them.
>> Hawking's negative energy doesn't exist...
>> But where in the universe is anti light?
>> If we capture anti atom where did it come from?
>> What was it with? The real matter...
>> It would have annihilated in the process of
>> attempting to contain it in real matter that
>> it was with.
>>
>> Rate doesn't run backwards...
>>
>> Stop with some other universe we could never
>> verify in order to be part of what is proven.
>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>
> 

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#691912

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
Date2018-06-26 00:01 -0700
Message-ID<pgsocf$hte$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#691911
On 6/25/2018 11:56 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 6/25/2018 11:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> On 6/25/2018 8:06 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 7:38:49 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 2:29:25 PM UTC-7, benj wrote:
>>>>> On 6/23/2018 5:20 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/23/2018 11:45 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> Count it...1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> only One universe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay. Let say that is true. I really do not know for sure anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about a shape like the Koch curve that is basically finite in 
>>>>>> size
>>>>>> to the eye, yet has an infinite border structure such that it 
>>>>>> cannot be
>>>>>> measured unless we totally halt iteration.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about the Mandelbrot set, one main "largest" shape, with an
>>>>>> infinite border. Afaict, the border of a fractal is kind of like an
>>>>>> event horizon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep. Take the Koch geometric figure which has an infinite perimeter
>>>>> which seems to say it is infinite in size, but clearly one can draw a
>>>>> line around that figure that is finite in length!
>>
>> Draw your line... Then zoom in, and you will see how off it really is 
>> wrt this fresh new zoom level. You will never be able to draw the border.
> 
> Forgot to mention that as we zoom in, we need to increase the iteration 
> level accordingly.

Sorry for all of the posts, but think of:

You observe a zoom level of a fractal and draw it.

You think it is correct.

Then, you zoom in _and_ increase the iteration level.

Ummm.... Your drawing is now totally wrong, and out of date.

think of a person with very poor vision observing an object.

Now, increase the iteration count and perhaps even zoom level by giving 
them highly corrective glasses, and BAM! They can see a heck of a lot 
more detail!



[...]

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#691679

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-23 14:30 -0700
Message-ID<a080dc48-63e6-4455-aae1-3711147af35a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#691654
On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 11:45:28 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> Count it...1
> 
> only One universe
> 
> 0NE
> 
> 
> if you disagree...you should give up physics and math.
> 
> 
> Go lay carpet for a living...
> 
> 
> Science isn't math.

Has to be two.I know how to lay carpet.It makes for a good layBert

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#691694

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2018-06-23 15:24 -0700
Message-ID<pgmhbp$4du$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#691679
"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
I know how to lay carpet.It makes for a good lay of Bert since
>
BBC News US:  The two knives, three spoons and three
forks bear the Nazi eagle, swastika and Hitler's initials
of Adolf Hitler's cutlery sells for £12,500 in Dorset.
Read the full story
>
Now, given that "reber G=emc^2" Bert's email
address of  herbertglazier0@gmail.com anagrams
to  _______reber_A.Hitler_z0g@gmail.com____,
>
Glazier you twisted Swine, go auction off the bucket
that you shit into in your stinky and defective van and
you may make some honest money, for the 1st tine,
in your useless life as having been nothing but a
Face-Shitter and a criminal Graveyard Vandal.... 

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