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Re: There Is Only One Universe

From "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: There Is Only One Universe
Date 2018-06-26 00:01 -0700
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On 6/25/2018 11:56 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 6/25/2018 11:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> On 6/25/2018 8:06 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 7:38:49 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 2:29:25 PM UTC-7, benj wrote:
>>>>> On 6/23/2018 5:20 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/23/2018 11:45 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> Count it...1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> only One universe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay. Let say that is true. I really do not know for sure anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about a shape like the Koch curve that is basically finite in 
>>>>>> size
>>>>>> to the eye, yet has an infinite border structure such that it 
>>>>>> cannot be
>>>>>> measured unless we totally halt iteration.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about the Mandelbrot set, one main "largest" shape, with an
>>>>>> infinite border. Afaict, the border of a fractal is kind of like an
>>>>>> event horizon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep. Take the Koch geometric figure which has an infinite perimeter
>>>>> which seems to say it is infinite in size, but clearly one can draw a
>>>>> line around that figure that is finite in length!
>>
>> Draw your line... Then zoom in, and you will see how off it really is 
>> wrt this fresh new zoom level. You will never be able to draw the border.
> 
> Forgot to mention that as we zoom in, we need to increase the iteration 
> level accordingly.

Sorry for all of the posts, but think of:

You observe a zoom level of a fractal and draw it.

You think it is correct.

Then, you zoom in _and_ increase the iteration level.

Ummm.... Your drawing is now totally wrong, and out of date.

think of a person with very poor vision observing an object.

Now, increase the iteration count and perhaps even zoom level by giving 
them highly corrective glasses, and BAM! They can see a heck of a lot 
more detail!



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There Is Only One Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-23 11:45 -0700
  Re: There Is Only One Universe casagiannoni@optonline.net - 2018-06-23 14:57 -0400
    Re: There Is Only One Universe benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-23 16:30 -0400
      Re: There Is Only One Universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-06-23 13:55 -0700
      Re: There Is Only One Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-23 14:05 -0700
        Re: There Is Only One Universe "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-23 14:22 -0700
      Re: There Is Only One Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-23 14:09 -0700
        Re: There Is Only One Universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-06-23 14:20 -0700
        Re: There Is Only One Universe benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-23 17:24 -0400
      Re: There Is Only One Universe casagiannoni@optonline.net - 2018-06-23 17:59 -0400
  Re: There Is Only One Universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-06-23 13:20 -0700
  Re: There Is Only One Universe benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-23 16:26 -0400
  Re: There Is Only One Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-23 14:05 -0700
  Re: There Is Only One Universe "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-23 14:20 -0700
    Re: There Is Only One Universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-06-23 14:27 -0700
    Re: There Is Only One Universe benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-23 17:29 -0400
      Re: There Is Only One Universe "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-23 14:42 -0700
        Re: There Is Only One Universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-06-23 15:08 -0700
        Re: There Is Only One Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-23 16:46 -0700
          Re: There Is Only One Universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-06-23 16:49 -0700
          Re: There Is Only One Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-24 01:30 -0700
            Re: There Is Only One Universe "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-24 20:07 -0700
      Re: There Is Only One Universe "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 19:38 -0700
        Re: There Is Only One Universe "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-06-25 19:52 -0700
        Re: There Is Only One Universe mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-06-25 20:06 -0700
          Re: There Is Only One Universe "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-25 23:55 -0700
            Re: There Is Only One Universe "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-25 23:56 -0700
              Re: There Is Only One Universe "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-26 00:01 -0700
  Re: There Is Only One Universe "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 14:30 -0700
    Re: There Is Only One Universe "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-06-23 15:24 -0700

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