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  Re: The correct explanation for the twin paradox The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-13 21:24 -0700
    Re: The correct explanation for the twin paradox The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-14 09:20 -0700
      Re: The correct explanation for the twin paradox The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-14 09:51 -0700
        Re: The correct explanation for the twin paradox The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-17 00:36 -0700
          Re: The correct explanation for the twin paradox The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-18 11:54 -0700
            Re: The correct explanation for the twin paradox The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-19 09:27 -0700
    Re: The correct explanation for the twin paradox "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-07-14 09:53 -0700
      Re: The correct explanation for the twin paradox "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 15:11 -0700
        Re: The correct explanation for the twin paradox "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-07-20 16:34 -0700

#640412 — Re: The correct explanation for the twin paradox

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > kenseto wrote:
> > >
> > > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 11:00:56 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 5:55:17 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 9:20:21 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 2:27:42 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 9:25:56 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 12:18:20 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > During B’s entire journey B’s clock accumulates clock seconds at a slower rate of 1/gamma than A. At no time B observe A’s clock accumulate clock seconds at a slower rate than B’s clock. Why? Because B’s clock second contains a larger amount of time (absolute time) than A’s clock second. IOW, a clock second is NOT A UNIVERSAL INTERVAL OF ABSOLUTE TIME in different frames. It contains a different amount of absolute time in different frames.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This explanation is confirmed by the GPS. A GPS second is redefined to have 4.4647 more periods of Cs 133 radiation than the ground clock second. This is designed to make the passage of a redefined GPS second corresponds to the passage of a stand ground clock second and thus making the GPS permanently in synch with the ground clock in terms of absolute time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > if time would to stop for 5 minutes universally, would anyone be aware
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of it?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no way to stop the passage of absolute time. You can stop the passage of clock time by damaging the clock but the passage of absolute time continues.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > if time can start, it can stop..
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Yes.....clock time can start and stop. But not absolute time.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > it can even slow down, or speed up.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Similarly clock time can slow down or speed up but not absolute time.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ...and time can turnaround and go back.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > No.....absolute time moves in one direction....it can only move forward into the future.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > (and i ain't talkin bout clocks)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > there is no future for time to 'move into'.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is tomorrow not the future????
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > does the future exist without time?
> > > > >
> > > > > The future and absolute time always exist. Tomorrow (he future) and 24 hours (absolute time) from now exists simultaneously.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The future and time exist simultaneously, but there is no...tomorrow.
> > >
> > > Tomorrow and time exist simultaneously at tomorrow.
> >
> > but not after tomorrow.
> >
> > if two weeks from now is the future, and you got a glimpse of it, what
> > will you see?
> 
> I'll explain what you will see because it's not information that exist anywhere else...
> 
> If you got a glimpse of the future...stuck your head in and took a look..what you will see is...NOTHING.
> 
> It's Blank! Pure white. No earth, no stars, no universe...nothing. Nothing happen yet.
> 
> It has to develope with time...like developing a photograph in the darkroom...eventually everything begins to come about.

I mean, you people don't acutally believe that there are people walking around in the future, do you????

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#640455

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > kenseto wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 11:00:56 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 5:55:17 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 9:20:21 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 2:27:42 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 9:25:56 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 12:18:20 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > During B’s entire journey B’s clock accumulates clock seconds at a slower rate of 1/gamma than A. At no time B observe A’s clock accumulate clock seconds at a slower rate than B’s clock. Why? Because B’s clock second contains a larger amount of time (absolute time) than A’s clock second. IOW, a clock second is NOT A UNIVERSAL INTERVAL OF ABSOLUTE TIME in different frames. It contains a different amount of absolute time in different frames.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This explanation is confirmed by the GPS. A GPS second is redefined to have 4.4647 more periods of Cs 133 radiation than the ground clock second. This is designed to make the passage of a redefined GPS second corresponds to the passage of a stand ground clock second and thus making the GPS permanently in synch with the ground clock in terms of absolute time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if time would to stop for 5 minutes universally, would anyone be aware
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of it?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no way to stop the passage of absolute time. You can stop the passage of clock time by damaging the clock but the passage of absolute time continues.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > if time can start, it can stop..
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes.....clock time can start and stop. But not absolute time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > it can even slow down, or speed up.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly clock time can slow down or speed up but not absolute time.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ...and time can turnaround and go back.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > No.....absolute time moves in one direction....it can only move forward into the future.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > (and i ain't talkin bout clocks)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > there is no future for time to 'move into'.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is tomorrow not the future????
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > does the future exist without time?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The future and absolute time always exist. Tomorrow (he future) and 24 hours (absolute time) from now exists simultaneously.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The future and time exist simultaneously, but there is no...tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > > Tomorrow and time exist simultaneously at tomorrow.
> > >
> > > but not after tomorrow.
> > >
> > > if two weeks from now is the future, and you got a glimpse of it, what
> > > will you see?
> >
> > I'll explain what you will see because it's not information that exist anywhere else...
> >
> > If you got a glimpse of the future...stuck your head in and took a look..what you will see is...NOTHING.
> >
> > It's Blank! Pure white. No earth, no stars, no universe...nothing. Nothing happen yet.
> >
> > It has to develope with time...like developing a photograph in the darkroom...eventually everything begins to come about.
> 
> I mean, you people don't acutally believe that there are people walking around in the future, do you????


Even Albert Einstein didn't understand...


 "I like to think the moon is there even if I am not looking at it." --Albert Einstein


I thought everyone understood this by now...


That the future is what....you make it.

I mean, litteraly MAKE IT. You even make the moon...


It's like I gotta start all over again...and teach you people what you don't seem to understand.


That if you pop you head into two weeks from now into the future...there's NOTHING there, not even the moon!


Life is what you make it means....all of it!!! 


even the moon.

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#640458

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 11:00:56 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 5:55:17 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 9:20:21 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 2:27:42 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 9:25:56 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 12:18:20 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > During B’s entire journey B’s clock accumulates clock seconds at a slower rate of 1/gamma than A. At no time B observe A’s clock accumulate clock seconds at a slower rate than B’s clock. Why? Because B’s clock second contains a larger amount of time (absolute time) than A’s clock second. IOW, a clock second is NOT A UNIVERSAL INTERVAL OF ABSOLUTE TIME in different frames. It contains a different amount of absolute time in different frames.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This explanation is confirmed by the GPS. A GPS second is redefined to have 4.4647 more periods of Cs 133 radiation than the ground clock second. This is designed to make the passage of a redefined GPS second corresponds to the passage of a stand ground clock second and thus making the GPS permanently in synch with the ground clock in terms of absolute time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if time would to stop for 5 minutes universally, would anyone be aware
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of it?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no way to stop the passage of absolute time. You can stop the passage of clock time by damaging the clock but the passage of absolute time continues.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > if time can start, it can stop..
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes.....clock time can start and stop. But not absolute time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it can even slow down, or speed up.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly clock time can slow down or speed up but not absolute time.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ...and time can turnaround and go back.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > No.....absolute time moves in one direction....it can only move forward into the future.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > (and i ain't talkin bout clocks)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > there is no future for time to 'move into'.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Is tomorrow not the future????
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > does the future exist without time?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The future and absolute time always exist. Tomorrow (he future) and 24 hours (absolute time) from now exists simultaneously.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The future and time exist simultaneously, but there is no...tomorrow.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tomorrow and time exist simultaneously at tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > > but not after tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > > if two weeks from now is the future, and you got a glimpse of it, what
> > > > will you see?
> > >
> > > I'll explain what you will see because it's not information that exist anywhere else...
> > >
> > > If you got a glimpse of the future...stuck your head in and took a look..what you will see is...NOTHING.
> > >
> > > It's Blank! Pure white. No earth, no stars, no universe...nothing. Nothing happen yet.
> > >
> > > It has to develope with time...like developing a photograph in the darkroom...eventually everything begins to come about.
> >
> > I mean, you people don't acutally believe that there are people walking around in the future, do you????
> 
> Even Albert Einstein didn't understand...
> 
>  "I like to think the moon is there even if I am not looking at it." --Albert Einstein
> 
> I thought everyone understood this by now...
> 
> That the future is what....you make it.
> 
> I mean, litteraly MAKE IT. You even make the moon...
> 
> It's like I gotta start all over again...and teach you people what you don't seem to understand.
> 
> That if you pop you head into two weeks from now into the future...there's NOTHING there, not even the moon!
> 
> Life is what you make it means....all of it!!!
> 
> even the moon.


I really don't know how to explain it in terms that you can understand it. You're gonna have take one of my classes...

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#640996

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 11:00:56 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 5:55:17 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 9:20:21 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 2:27:42 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 9:25:56 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 12:18:20 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > During B’s entire journey B’s clock accumulates clock seconds at a slower rate of 1/gamma than A. At no time B observe A’s clock accumulate clock seconds at a slower rate than B’s clock. Why? Because B’s clock second contains a larger amount of time (absolute time) than A’s clock second. IOW, a clock second is NOT A UNIVERSAL INTERVAL OF ABSOLUTE TIME in different frames. It contains a different amount of absolute time in different frames.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This explanation is confirmed by the GPS. A GPS second is redefined to have 4.4647 more periods of Cs 133 radiation than the ground clock second. This is designed to make the passage of a redefined GPS second corresponds to the passage of a stand ground clock second and thus making the GPS permanently in synch with the ground clock in terms of absolute time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if time would to stop for 5 minutes universally, would anyone be aware
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of it?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no way to stop the passage of absolute time. You can stop the passage of clock time by damaging the clock but the passage of absolute time continues.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if time can start, it can stop..
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes.....clock time can start and stop. But not absolute time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it can even slow down, or speed up.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly clock time can slow down or speed up but not absolute time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ...and time can turnaround and go back.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > No.....absolute time moves in one direction....it can only move forward into the future.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > (and i ain't talkin bout clocks)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > there is no future for time to 'move into'.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Is tomorrow not the future????
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > does the future exist without time?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The future and absolute time always exist. Tomorrow (he future) and 24 hours (absolute time) from now exists simultaneously.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The future and time exist simultaneously, but there is no...tomorrow.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tomorrow and time exist simultaneously at tomorrow.
> > > > >
> > > > > but not after tomorrow.
> > > > >
> > > > > if two weeks from now is the future, and you got a glimpse of it, what
> > > > > will you see?
> > > >
> > > > I'll explain what you will see because it's not information that exist anywhere else...
> > > >
> > > > If you got a glimpse of the future...stuck your head in and took a look..what you will see is...NOTHING.
> > > >
> > > > It's Blank! Pure white. No earth, no stars, no universe...nothing. Nothing happen yet.
> > > >
> > > > It has to develope with time...like developing a photograph in the darkroom...eventually everything begins to come about.
> > >
> > > I mean, you people don't acutally believe that there are people walking around in the future, do you????
> >
> > Even Albert Einstein didn't understand...
> >
> >  "I like to think the moon is there even if I am not looking at it." --Albert Einstein
> >
> > I thought everyone understood this by now...
> >
> > That the future is what....you make it.
> >
> > I mean, litteraly MAKE IT. You even make the moon...
> >
> > It's like I gotta start all over again...and teach you people what you don't seem to understand.
> >
> > That if you pop you head into two weeks from now into the future...there's NOTHING there, not even the moon!
> >
> > Life is what you make it means....all of it!!!
> >
> > even the moon.
> 
> I really don't know how to explain it in terms that you can understand it. You're gonna have take one of my classes...




In other words...one minute forward in the future universal time, there is no earth, moon, and universe. It just develops in time.

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#641241

gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 1:06:18 PM UTC+5:30, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 11:00:56 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 5:55:17 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 9:20:21 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 2:27:42 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 9:25:56 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 12:18:20 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > During B’s entire journey B’s clock accumulates clock seconds at a slower rate of 1/gamma than A. At no time B observe A’s clock accumulate clock seconds at a slower rate than B’s clock. Why? Because B’s clock second contains a larger amount of time (absolute time) than A’s clock second. IOW, a clock second is NOT A UNIVERSAL INTERVAL OF ABSOLUTE TIME in different frames. It contains a different amount of absolute time in different frames.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This explanation is confirmed by the GPS. A GPS second is redefined to have 4.4647 more periods of Cs 133 radiation than the ground clock second. This is designed to make the passage of a redefined GPS second corresponds to the passage of a stand ground clock second and thus making the GPS permanently in synch with the ground clock in terms of absolute time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if time would to stop for 5 minutes universally, would anyone be aware
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of it?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no way to stop the passage of absolute time. You can stop the passage of clock time by damaging the clock but the passage of absolute time continues.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if time can start, it can stop..
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes.....clock time can start and stop. But not absolute time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it can even slow down, or speed up.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly clock time can slow down or speed up but not absolute time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...and time can turnaround and go back.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > No.....absolute time moves in one direction....it can only move forward into the future.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (and i ain't talkin bout clocks)
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no future for time to 'move into'.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Is tomorrow not the future????
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > does the future exist without time?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The future and absolute time always exist. Tomorrow (he future) and 24 hours (absolute time) from now exists simultaneously.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The future and time exist simultaneously, but there is no...tomorrow.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Tomorrow and time exist simultaneously at tomorrow.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > but not after tomorrow.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > if two weeks from now is the future, and you got a glimpse of it, what
> > > > > > > will you see?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'll explain what you will see because it's not information that exist anywhere else...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you got a glimpse of the future...stuck your head in and took a look..what you will see is...NOTHING.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's Blank! Pure white. No earth, no stars, no universe...nothing. Nothing happen yet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It has to develope with time...like developing a photograph in the darkroom...eventually everything begins to come about.
> > > > >
> > > > > I mean, you people don't acutally believe that there are people walking around in the future, do you????
> > > >
> > > > Even Albert Einstein didn't understand...
> > > >
> > > >  "I like to think the moon is there even if I am not looking at it." --Albert Einstein
> > > >
> > > > I thought everyone understood this by now...
> > > >
> > > > That the future is what....you make it.
> > > >
> > > > I mean, litteraly MAKE IT. You even make the moon...
> > > >
> > > > It's like I gotta start all over again...and teach you people what you don't seem to understand.
> > > >
> > > > That if you pop you head into two weeks from now into the future...there's NOTHING there, not even the moon!
> > > >
> > > > Life is what you make it means....all of it!!!
> > > >
> > > > even the moon.
> > >
> > > I really don't know how to explain it in terms that you can understand it. You're gonna have take one of my classes...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In other words...one minute forward in the future universal time, there is no earth, moon, and universe. It just develops in time.
> 
> Any other theories for time dilation in gravitational field?


Like so many others here..you're too close to the "time intermediate wheel" to see the ...Clock.

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#641361

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 1:06:18 PM UTC+5:30, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 11:00:56 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 5:55:17 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 9:20:21 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 2:27:42 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 9:25:56 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 12:18:20 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > During B’s entire journey B’s clock accumulates clock seconds at a slower rate of 1/gamma than A. At no time B observe A’s clock accumulate clock seconds at a slower rate than B’s clock. Why? Because B’s clock second contains a larger amount of time (absolute time) than A’s clock second. IOW, a clock second is NOT A UNIVERSAL INTERVAL OF ABSOLUTE TIME in different frames. It contains a different amount of absolute time in different frames.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This explanation is confirmed by the GPS. A GPS second is redefined to have 4.4647 more periods of Cs 133 radiation than the ground clock second. This is designed to make the passage of a redefined GPS second corresponds to the passage of a stand ground clock second and thus making the GPS permanently in synch with the ground clock in terms of absolute time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if time would to stop for 5 minutes universally, would anyone be aware
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of it?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no way to stop the passage of absolute time. You can stop the passage of clock time by damaging the clock but the passage of absolute time continues.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if time can start, it can stop..
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes.....clock time can start and stop. But not absolute time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it can even slow down, or speed up.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly clock time can slow down or speed up but not absolute time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...and time can turnaround and go back.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No.....absolute time moves in one direction....it can only move forward into the future.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (and i ain't talkin bout clocks)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no future for time to 'move into'.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Is tomorrow not the future????
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > does the future exist without time?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The future and absolute time always exist. Tomorrow (he future) and 24 hours (absolute time) from now exists simultaneously.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The future and time exist simultaneously, but there is no...tomorrow.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Tomorrow and time exist simultaneously at tomorrow.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > but not after tomorrow.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > if two weeks from now is the future, and you got a glimpse of it, what
> > > > > > > > will you see?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'll explain what you will see because it's not information that exist anywhere else...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you got a glimpse of the future...stuck your head in and took a look..what you will see is...NOTHING.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's Blank! Pure white. No earth, no stars, no universe...nothing. Nothing happen yet.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It has to develope with time...like developing a photograph in the darkroom...eventually everything begins to come about.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I mean, you people don't acutally believe that there are people walking around in the future, do you????
> > > > >
> > > > > Even Albert Einstein didn't understand...
> > > > >
> > > > >  "I like to think the moon is there even if I am not looking at it." --Albert Einstein
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought everyone understood this by now...
> > > > >
> > > > > That the future is what....you make it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I mean, litteraly MAKE IT. You even make the moon...
> > > > >
> > > > > It's like I gotta start all over again...and teach you people what you don't seem to understand.
> > > > >
> > > > > That if you pop you head into two weeks from now into the future...there's NOTHING there, not even the moon!
> > > > >
> > > > > Life is what you make it means....all of it!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > even the moon.
> > > >
> > > > I really don't know how to explain it in terms that you can understand it. You're gonna have take one of my classes...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In other words...one minute forward in the future universal time, there is no earth, moon, and universe. It just develops in time.
> >
> > Any other theories for time dilation in gravitational field?
> 
> Like so many others here..you're too close to the "time intermediate wheel" to see the ...Clock.



Just imagine a Clock, that doesn't tell you the time in differnet parts of the world, but tells the time in
different parts of the universe...a universal clock.


"You got the time?"
"Which galaxy?"
"You know, the milky one."
"Which planet?"
"Not the red one."
"Not the blue one, nobody knows what time it is there!"

"my watch is not working...i'm getting very peculiar signals are coming from a nearby star."

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#640459

On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 9:25:02 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > kenseto wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 11:00:56 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 5:55:17 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:    > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > A clock tells time,but does not create time.Humankind gives the clock a rate of time.Gravity creates time,and can take time away.Space time
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 9:20:21 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 2:27:42 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 9:25:56 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 12:18:20 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > During B’s entire journey B’s clock accumulates clock seconds at a slower rate of 1/gamma than A. At no time B observe A’s clock accumulate clock seconds at a slower rate than B’s clock. Why? Because B’s clock second contains a larger amount of time (absolute time) than A’s clock second. IOW, a clock second is NOT A UNIVERSAL INTERVAL OF ABSOLUTE TIME in different frames. It contains a different amount of absolute time in different frames.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This explanation is confirmed by the GPS. A GPS second is redefined to have 4.4647 more periods of Cs 133 radiation than the ground clock second. This is designed to make the passage of a redefined GPS second corresponds to the passage of a stand ground clock second and thus making the GPS permanently in synch with the ground clock in terms of absolute time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if time would to stop for 5 minutes universally, would anyone be aware
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of it?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no way to stop the passage of absolute time. You can stop the passage of clock time by damaging the clock but the passage of absolute time continues.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > if time can start, it can stop..
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes.....clock time can start and stop. But not absolute time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > it can even slow down, or speed up.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly clock time can slow down or speed up but not absolute time.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ...and time can turnaround and go back.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > No.....absolute time moves in one direction....it can only move forward into the future.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > (and i ain't talkin bout clocks)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > there is no future for time to 'move into'.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is tomorrow not the future????
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > does the future exist without time?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The future and absolute time always exist. Tomorrow (he future) and 24 hours (absolute time) from now exists simultaneously.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The future and time exist simultaneously, but there is no...tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > > Tomorrow and time exist simultaneously at tomorrow.
> > >
> > > but not after tomorrow.
> > >
> > > if two weeks from now is the future, and you got a glimpse of it, what
> > > will you see?
> > 
> > I'll explain what you will see because it's not information that exist anywhere else...
> > 
> > If you got a glimpse of the future...stuck your head in and took a look..what you will see is...NOTHING.
> > 
> > It's Blank! Pure white. No earth, no stars, no universe...nothing. Nothing happen yet.
> > 
> > It has to develope with time...like developing a photograph in the darkroom...eventually everything begins to come about.
> 
> I mean, you people don't acutally believe that there are people walking around in the future, do you????

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#641573

On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 9:53:07 AM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 9:25:02 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > 
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 11:00:56 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 5:55:17 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:    > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > A clock tells time,but does not create time.Humankind gives the clock a rate of time.Gravity creates time,and can take time away.Space time
> > > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 9:20:21 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 2:27:42 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 9:25:56 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 12:18:20 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kenseto wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > During B’s entire journey B’s clock accumulates clock seconds at a slower rate of 1/gamma than A. At no time B observe A’s clock accumulate clock seconds at a slower rate than B’s clock. Why? Because B’s clock second contains a larger amount of time (absolute time) than A’s clock second. IOW, a clock second is NOT A UNIVERSAL INTERVAL OF ABSOLUTE TIME in different frames. It contains a different amount of absolute time in different frames.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This explanation is confirmed by the GPS. A GPS second is redefined to have 4.4647 more periods of Cs 133 radiation than the ground clock second. This is designed to make the passage of a redefined GPS second corresponds to the passage of a stand ground clock second and thus making the GPS permanently in synch with the ground clock in terms of absolute time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if time would to stop for 5 minutes universally, would anyone be aware
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of it?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no way to stop the passage of absolute time. You can stop the passage of clock time by damaging the clock but the passage of absolute time continues.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > if time can start, it can stop..
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes.....clock time can start and stop. But not absolute time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it can even slow down, or speed up.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly clock time can slow down or speed up but not absolute time.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ...and time can turnaround and go back.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > No.....absolute time moves in one direction....it can only move forward into the future.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > (and i ain't talkin bout clocks)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > there is no future for time to 'move into'.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Is tomorrow not the future????
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > does the future exist without time?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The future and absolute time always exist. Tomorrow (he future) and 24 hours (absolute time) from now exists simultaneously.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The future and time exist simultaneously, but there is no...tomorrow.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tomorrow and time exist simultaneously at tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > > but not after tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > > if two weeks from now is the future, and you got a glimpse of it, what
> > > > will you see?
> > > 
> > > I'll explain what you will see because it's not information that exist anywhere else...
> > > 
> > > If you got a glimpse of the future...stuck your head in and took a look..what you will see is...NOTHING.
> > > 
> > > It's Blank! Pure white. No earth, no stars, no universe...nothing. Nothing happen yet.
> > > 
> > > It has to develope with time...like developing a photograph in the darkroom...eventually everything begins to come about.
> > 
> > I mean, you people don't acutally believe that there are people walking around in the future, do you????

Gra

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#641587

"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> don't acutally 
believe in <http://tinyurl.com/Herbert-Glazier-s-Reprieve>

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