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NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique

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First post2017-07-02 11:38 -0700
Last post2017-07-06 23:19 -0700
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  NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-02 11:38 -0700
    Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-02 12:36 -0700
      Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-02 13:46 -0700
        Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-03 09:37 -0700
          Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique Oveho Anými Trofyzikovu <zfeuur@ceuuwi.ku> - 2017-07-03 17:43 +0000
            Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-03 13:03 -0500
              Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-07-04 00:37 +0200
                Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 00:40 +0000
                  Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-07-04 13:29 -0500
                    Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 18:46 +0000
                      Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-07-04 14:42 -0500
                        Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 19:54 +0000
                          Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-04 19:28 -0500
                  Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-04 17:12 -0400
                    Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 21:22 +0000
                      Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-04 15:26 -0700
                      Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-04 20:21 -0400
                        Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-04 19:33 -0500
                        Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 00:45 +0000
                          Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-04 21:39 -0400
                            Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 04:46 +0000
                              Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-05 19:40 -0400
                                Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-06 01:20 +0000
                                  Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-05 21:46 -0400
                                    Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-06 05:08 +0000
                                      Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-06 16:44 -0400
                                  Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 18:46 -0700
                Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-03 23:32 -0500
                Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-03 23:25 -0700
                Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique Upech Bezradne <adeeia@bbzzeop.ic> - 2017-07-07 10:46 +0000
    Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 15:44 -0700
      Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-07-06 16:39 -0700
      Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-06 23:19 -0700

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#638868

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-07-05 04:46 +0000
Message-ID<lh7u2e-k0k.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#638853
benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 7/4/2017 8:45 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>> On 7/4/2017 5:22 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 7/3/2017 8:40 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> In sci.physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
>>>>>>> Sегg io wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You go to the Moon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        (no air, no water, no food, no cosmic ray protection, no laundry.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Air can be produced, e.g. by plants, like on the ISS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is strong evidence to suggest that there is water on the Moon all over
>>>>>>> the place, in minerals and as pellets and sheets of water ice (likely
>>>>>>> brought in by meteoroid and asteroid impacts).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Space suits already have limited cosmic ray protection.  Space suits that
>>>>>>> are now being developed for Mars will work fine on the Moon, too, with minor
>>>>>>> modifications.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Laundry is not a problem once you have air and water, however it will be
>>>>>>> more efficient to wear hydrophobic clothes that makes laundry unnecessary;
>>>>>>> there are already examples of that in serial production, like t-shirts that
>>>>>>> cannot get dirty.
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>      You get to stay inside a CAN for your entire time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That was not true then (where do you think do the Moon rocks on Earth come
>>>>>>> from?) and is certainly not true now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Besides, if you build a moon-dome to live in, you can extend that dome over
>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>       You gotta take EVERYTHING WITH YOU.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, there are natural resources there that can be used.  For example, if the
>>>>>>> moonship had a fusion reactor, you could fuel it with the helium-3 that you
>>>>>>> mine there.  The reactor could power machines like 3D printers.  Printed
>>>>>>> parts can be used to build small machines.  Small machines can be used to
>>>>>>> build bigger machines.  This is already being tested, on Earth, right now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are no working, practical, helium-3 reactor power plants.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3D printers take special material to print and can not print more than
>>>>>> one material at a time.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course they can. You must be a technician and the usual engineer that
>>>>> hang around here.
>>>>
>>>> Where's the 3D printer that prints steel and teflon?
>>>
>>> Chimp you are dumber
>> 
>> Unable to answer the question, the troll fall back to ad hominem.
> 
> Blind and deaf Chimp

The troll continues in desperation with ad hominems.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#639006

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-07-05 19:40 -0400
Message-ID<595d78f7$0$53174$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#638868
On 7/5/2017 12:46 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>> On 7/4/2017 8:45 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>> On 7/4/2017 5:22 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/3/2017 8:40 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>> In sci.physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Sегg io wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You go to the Moon.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         (no air, no water, no food, no cosmic ray protection, no laundry.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Air can be produced, e.g. by plants, like on the ISS.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is strong evidence to suggest that there is water on the Moon all over
>>>>>>>> the place, in minerals and as pellets and sheets of water ice (likely
>>>>>>>> brought in by meteoroid and asteroid impacts).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Space suits already have limited cosmic ray protection.  Space suits that
>>>>>>>> are now being developed for Mars will work fine on the Moon, too, with minor
>>>>>>>> modifications.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Laundry is not a problem once you have air and water, however it will be
>>>>>>>> more efficient to wear hydrophobic clothes that makes laundry unnecessary;
>>>>>>>> there are already examples of that in serial production, like t-shirts that
>>>>>>>> cannot get dirty.
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>       You get to stay inside a CAN for your entire time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That was not true then (where do you think do the Moon rocks on Earth come
>>>>>>>> from?) and is certainly not true now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Besides, if you build a moon-dome to live in, you can extend that dome over
>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>        You gotta take EVERYTHING WITH YOU.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, there are natural resources there that can be used.  For example, if the
>>>>>>>> moonship had a fusion reactor, you could fuel it with the helium-3 that you
>>>>>>>> mine there.  The reactor could power machines like 3D printers.  Printed
>>>>>>>> parts can be used to build small machines.  Small machines can be used to
>>>>>>>> build bigger machines.  This is already being tested, on Earth, right now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are no working, practical, helium-3 reactor power plants.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3D printers take special material to print and can not print more than
>>>>>>> one material at a time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course they can. You must be a technician and the usual engineer that
>>>>>> hang around here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where's the 3D printer that prints steel and teflon?
>>>>
>>>> Chimp you are dumber
>>>
>>> Unable to answer the question, the troll fall back to ad hominem.
>>
>> Blind and deaf Chimp
> 
> The troll continues in desperation with ad hominems.
> 
> 
Chimp as usual sticks fingers in his ears and yells: LA LA LA I CAN'T 
HEAR  YOU!

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#639039

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-07-06 01:20 +0000
Message-ID<6rf03e-97s.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#639006
benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 7/5/2017 12:46 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>> On 7/4/2017 8:45 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 7/4/2017 5:22 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/3/2017 8:40 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Sегg io wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You go to the Moon.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         (no air, no water, no food, no cosmic ray protection, no laundry.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Air can be produced, e.g. by plants, like on the ISS.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is strong evidence to suggest that there is water on the Moon all over
>>>>>>>>> the place, in minerals and as pellets and sheets of water ice (likely
>>>>>>>>> brought in by meteoroid and asteroid impacts).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Space suits already have limited cosmic ray protection.  Space suits that
>>>>>>>>> are now being developed for Mars will work fine on the Moon, too, with minor
>>>>>>>>> modifications.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Laundry is not a problem once you have air and water, however it will be
>>>>>>>>> more efficient to wear hydrophobic clothes that makes laundry unnecessary;
>>>>>>>>> there are already examples of that in serial production, like t-shirts that
>>>>>>>>> cannot get dirty.
>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>>       You get to stay inside a CAN for your entire time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That was not true then (where do you think do the Moon rocks on Earth come
>>>>>>>>> from?) and is certainly not true now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Besides, if you build a moon-dome to live in, you can extend that dome over
>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>>        You gotta take EVERYTHING WITH YOU.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, there are natural resources there that can be used.  For example, if the
>>>>>>>>> moonship had a fusion reactor, you could fuel it with the helium-3 that you
>>>>>>>>> mine there.  The reactor could power machines like 3D printers.  Printed
>>>>>>>>> parts can be used to build small machines.  Small machines can be used to
>>>>>>>>> build bigger machines.  This is already being tested, on Earth, right now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are no working, practical, helium-3 reactor power plants.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3D printers take special material to print and can not print more than
>>>>>>>> one material at a time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course they can. You must be a technician and the usual engineer that
>>>>>>> hang around here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where's the 3D printer that prints steel and teflon?
>>>>>
>>>>> Chimp you are dumber
>>>>
>>>> Unable to answer the question, the troll fall back to ad hominem.
>>>
>>> Blind and deaf Chimp
>> 
>> The troll continues in desperation with ad hominems.
>> 
>> 
> Chimp as usual

Yet more ad hominem from the resident troll.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#639044

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-07-05 21:46 -0400
Message-ID<595d9676$0$60210$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#639039
On 7/5/2017 9:20 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>> On 7/5/2017 12:46 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>> On 7/4/2017 8:45 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/4/2017 5:22 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/3/2017 8:40 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Sегg io wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You go to the Moon.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>          (no air, no water, no food, no cosmic ray protection, no laundry.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Air can be produced, e.g. by plants, like on the ISS.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is strong evidence to suggest that there is water on the Moon all over
>>>>>>>>>> the place, in minerals and as pellets and sheets of water ice (likely
>>>>>>>>>> brought in by meteoroid and asteroid impacts).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Space suits already have limited cosmic ray protection.  Space suits that
>>>>>>>>>> are now being developed for Mars will work fine on the Moon, too, with minor
>>>>>>>>>> modifications.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Laundry is not a problem once you have air and water, however it will be
>>>>>>>>>> more efficient to wear hydrophobic clothes that makes laundry unnecessary;
>>>>>>>>>> there are already examples of that in serial production, like t-shirts that
>>>>>>>>>> cannot get dirty.
>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>        You get to stay inside a CAN for your entire time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That was not true then (where do you think do the Moon rocks on Earth come
>>>>>>>>>> from?) and is certainly not true now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Besides, if you build a moon-dome to live in, you can extend that dome over
>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         You gotta take EVERYTHING WITH YOU.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No, there are natural resources there that can be used.  For example, if the
>>>>>>>>>> moonship had a fusion reactor, you could fuel it with the helium-3 that you
>>>>>>>>>> mine there.  The reactor could power machines like 3D printers.  Printed
>>>>>>>>>> parts can be used to build small machines.  Small machines can be used to
>>>>>>>>>> build bigger machines.  This is already being tested, on Earth, right now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are no working, practical, helium-3 reactor power plants.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3D printers take special material to print and can not print more than
>>>>>>>>> one material at a time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Of course they can. You must be a technician and the usual engineer that
>>>>>>>> hang around here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where's the 3D printer that prints steel and teflon?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chimp you are dumber
>>>>>
>>>>> Unable to answer the question, the troll fall back to ad hominem.
>>>>
>>>> Blind and deaf Chimp
>>>
>>> The troll continues in desperation with ad hominems.
>>>
>>>
>> Chimp as usual
> 
> Yet more ad hominem from the resident troll.
> 
> 
Chimp as usual.

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#639074

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-07-06 05:08 +0000
Message-ID<18t03e-ja.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#639044
benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 7/5/2017 9:20 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>> On 7/5/2017 12:46 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 7/4/2017 8:45 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/4/2017 5:22 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/3/2017 8:40 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Sегg io wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You go to the Moon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>          (no air, no water, no food, no cosmic ray protection, no laundry.)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Air can be produced, e.g. by plants, like on the ISS.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There is strong evidence to suggest that there is water on the Moon all over
>>>>>>>>>>> the place, in minerals and as pellets and sheets of water ice (likely
>>>>>>>>>>> brought in by meteoroid and asteroid impacts).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Space suits already have limited cosmic ray protection.  Space suits that
>>>>>>>>>>> are now being developed for Mars will work fine on the Moon, too, with minor
>>>>>>>>>>> modifications.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Laundry is not a problem once you have air and water, however it will be
>>>>>>>>>>> more efficient to wear hydrophobic clothes that makes laundry unnecessary;
>>>>>>>>>>> there are already examples of that in serial production, like t-shirts that
>>>>>>>>>>> cannot get dirty.
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>        You get to stay inside a CAN for your entire time.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That was not true then (where do you think do the Moon rocks on Earth come
>>>>>>>>>>> from?) and is certainly not true now.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Besides, if you build a moon-dome to live in, you can extend that dome over
>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         You gotta take EVERYTHING WITH YOU.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No, there are natural resources there that can be used.  For example, if the
>>>>>>>>>>> moonship had a fusion reactor, you could fuel it with the helium-3 that you
>>>>>>>>>>> mine there.  The reactor could power machines like 3D printers.  Printed
>>>>>>>>>>> parts can be used to build small machines.  Small machines can be used to
>>>>>>>>>>> build bigger machines.  This is already being tested, on Earth, right now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There are no working, practical, helium-3 reactor power plants.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 3D printers take special material to print and can not print more than
>>>>>>>>>> one material at a time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Of course they can. You must be a technician and the usual engineer that
>>>>>>>>> hang around here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Where's the 3D printer that prints steel and teflon?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chimp you are dumber
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unable to answer the question, the troll fall back to ad hominem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Blind and deaf Chimp
>>>>
>>>> The troll continues in desperation with ad hominems.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Chimp as usual
>> 
>> Yet more ad hominem from the resident troll.
>> 
>> 
> Chimp as usual.

Yet more ad hominem from the resident troll in a desperate attempt to
get in the last word, or in it's case, nonsense.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#639162

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-07-06 16:44 -0400
Message-ID<595ea119$0$59591$c3e8da3$460562f1@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#639074
On 7/6/2017 1:08 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>> On 7/5/2017 9:20 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>> On 7/5/2017 12:46 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/4/2017 8:45 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2017 5:22 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/3/2017 8:40 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sегg io wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You go to the Moon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           (no air, no water, no food, no cosmic ray protection, no laundry.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Air can be produced, e.g. by plants, like on the ISS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is strong evidence to suggest that there is water on the Moon all over
>>>>>>>>>>>> the place, in minerals and as pellets and sheets of water ice (likely
>>>>>>>>>>>> brought in by meteoroid and asteroid impacts).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Space suits already have limited cosmic ray protection.  Space suits that
>>>>>>>>>>>> are now being developed for Mars will work fine on the Moon, too, with minor
>>>>>>>>>>>> modifications.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Laundry is not a problem once you have air and water, however it will be
>>>>>>>>>>>> more efficient to wear hydrophobic clothes that makes laundry unnecessary;
>>>>>>>>>>>> there are already examples of that in serial production, like t-shirts that
>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot get dirty.
>>>>>>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         You get to stay inside a CAN for your entire time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That was not true then (where do you think do the Moon rocks on Earth come
>>>>>>>>>>>> from?) and is certainly not true now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Besides, if you build a moon-dome to live in, you can extend that dome over
>>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>>>>>>>          You gotta take EVERYTHING WITH YOU.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No, there are natural resources there that can be used.  For example, if the
>>>>>>>>>>>> moonship had a fusion reactor, you could fuel it with the helium-3 that you
>>>>>>>>>>>> mine there.  The reactor could power machines like 3D printers.  Printed
>>>>>>>>>>>> parts can be used to build small machines.  Small machines can be used to
>>>>>>>>>>>> build bigger machines.  This is already being tested, on Earth, right now.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There are no working, practical, helium-3 reactor power plants.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 3D printers take special material to print and can not print more than
>>>>>>>>>>> one material at a time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Of course they can. You must be a technician and the usual engineer that
>>>>>>>>>> hang around here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Where's the 3D printer that prints steel and teflon?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chimp you are dumber
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unable to answer the question, the troll fall back to ad hominem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Blind and deaf Chimp
>>>>>
>>>>> The troll continues in desperation with ad hominems.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Chimp as usual
>>>
>>> Yet more ad hominem from the resident troll.
>>>
>>>
>> Chimp as usual.
> 
> Yet more ad hominem from the resident troll in a desperate attempt to
> get in the last word, or in it's case, nonsense.

Oddly Chimp, I don't think anyone else here has any problem 
understanding the meaning of my words? You take your meds today?

Oh yeaH.

WORD!

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#639045

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-05 18:46 -0700
Message-ID<3291a029-12a4-4e0b-986b-195d11fe243b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#639039
On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 9:31:08 PM UTC-4, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
<trim>
> >>>> Unable to answer the question, the troll fall back to ad hominem.
> >>>
> >>> Blind and deaf Chimp
> >> 
> >> The troll continues in desperation with ad hominems.
> >> 
> > Chimp as usual
> 
> Yet more ad hominem from the resident troll.

Jim Pennino, you have mental problems/issues, in any Language.

> -- 
> Jim Pennino

STFU, and get a life, Jim.

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#638727

FromSегg io <innvalid@invalid.com>
Date2017-07-03 23:32 -0500
Message-ID<ojf5or$nim$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#638692
On 7/3/2017 5:37 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> Sегg io wrote:
> 
>> You go to the Moon.
>>
>>      (no air, no water, no food, no cosmic ray protection, no laundry.)
> 
> Air can be produced, e.g. by plants, like on the ISS.

rate is too slow, they cannot produce enough O2 for 1 person to breath. 
How many bean plants does it take to produce 1 L/hr of O2, how much 
water, how much CO2 and how much light ?

> 
> There is strong evidence to suggest that there is water on the Moon all over
> the place, in minerals and as pellets and sheets of water ice (likely
> brought in by meteoroid and asteroid impacts).

one has to go mine it, dig it up, load it into a gas tight hopper, and 
melt the water out. How much dirt does one have to move to get 1 L/hr ?

> 
> Space suits already have limited cosmic ray protection.  Space suits that
> are now being developed for Mars will work fine on the Moon, too, with minor
> modifications.

space suits do not have cosmic ray protection at all.

> 
> Laundry is not a problem once you have air and water, 

you dont have enough water to wash clothes, dry them, clean the water 
and re-use the water. all that energy and equipment.

> however it will be
> more efficient to wear hydrophobic clothes that makes laundry unnecessary;
> there are already examples of that in serial production, like t-shirts that
> cannot get dirty.

wont work.  Clothes intercept human skin cells that are always flaking 
off, and form a biofilm on the interiors of space craft and moon 
stations, and Mars Stations, a very serious contammination problem. only 
reason to wear clothes is to keep the interiors clean.

>   
>>    You get to stay inside a CAN for your entire time.
> 
> That was not true then (where do you think do the Moon rocks on Earth come
> from?) and is certainly not true now.

ok, you can get outside for an hour or two, but then you have to go back 
in for 10 hours, all to avoid cosmic radiation.  (this is true)
the shelter is a fuel tank burried 10 feet underground. Cant be on the 
surface radiation is too high.


> 
> Besides, if you build a moon-dome to live in, you can extend that dome over
> time.
>   
>>     You gotta take EVERYTHING WITH YOU.
> 
> No, there are natural resources there that can be used.  For example, if the
> moonship had a fusion reactor, you could fuel it with the helium-3 that you
> mine there. 

      what do you mine to get helium-3 ?

> The reactor could power machines like 3D printers.  Printed
> parts can be used to build small machines.  Small machines can be used to
> build bigger machines.  This is already being tested, on Earth, right now.
>   

cost, weight, size, complexity, maturity, usefulness, reliability, 
maintanance are all factors you are ingoring.  But dream on....

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#638735

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-07-03 23:25 -0700
Message-ID<595B34F7.4472@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#638692
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> 
> Sегg io wrote:
> 
> > You go to the Moon.
> >
> >     (no air, no water, no food, no cosmic ray protection, no laundry.)
> 
> Air can be produced, e.g. by plants, like on the ISS.
> 
> There is strong evidence to suggest that there is water on the Moon all over
> the place, in minerals and as pellets and sheets of water ice (likely
> brought in by meteoroid and asteroid impacts).
> 
> Space suits already have limited cosmic ray protection.  Space suits that
> are now being developed for Mars will work fine on the Moon, too, with minor
> modifications.
> 
> Laundry is not a problem once you have air and water, however it will be
> more efficient to wear hydrophobic clothes that makes laundry unnecessary;
> there are already examples of that in serial production, like t-shirts that
> cannot get dirty.
> 
> >   You get to stay inside a CAN for your entire time.
> 
> That was not true then (where do you think do the Moon rocks on Earth come
> from?) and is certainly not true now.
> 
> Besides, if you build a moon-dome to live in, you can extend that dome over
> time.
> 
> >    You gotta take EVERYTHING WITH YOU.
> 
> No, there are natural resources there that can be used.  For example, if the
> moonship had a fusion reactor, you could fuel it with the helium-3 that you
> mine there.  The reactor could power machines like 3D printers.  Printed
> parts can be used to build small machines.  Small machines can be used to
> build bigger machines.  This is already being tested, on Earth, right now.
> 
> Learn *before* you post.  And stop the *mindless* crossposting.  And get a
> real name.
> 
> --
> PointedEars


Is PointedEars a real name? Does your mailbox at home read...PointedEars, apartment 3?

From the Gas Comnay to PointedEars.


"Hi, which apartment does PointedEars live in????"


Who?


PointedEars!


Are you fukin nuts??


No.


What does he look like?


I don't know...maybe he's got....

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#639285

FromUpech Bezradne <adeeia@bbzzeop.ic>
Date2017-07-07 10:46 +0000
Message-ID<ojnor1$1ktg$6@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#638692
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

> Sегg io wrote:
>> You go to the Moon.
>>     (no air, no water, no food, no cosmic ray protection, no laundry.)
> 
> Air can be produced, e.g. by plants, like on the ISS.

You must be crazy thinking like that.

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#639199

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-06 15:44 -0700
Message-ID<76559e12-f014-437e-983a-e322d57e5f6e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#638520
On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 11:38:13 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique
> https://www.clickorlando.com/news/national/nasa-unveils-plan-to-test-asteroid-defense-technique
> 
> 
> 
> what new technique? is NASA going to body slam an asteroid????
> 
> 
> NASA is trying to create this 'imaginary' world of doom just to get....money.
> 
> 
> 
> What is it with NASA, the price of McDonalds chicken nuggets went up????
> 
> 
> How about aliens from other planets are planning to attack us?
> 
> 
> How about...
> 
> 
> 
> Anybody got any ideas How To terrify the planet earth??? The science fiction department have run out of ideas...

Watch out vthat they don't blow NYC off the map.I hope they saw the movie.Its been done.TreBert

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#639204

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2017-07-06 16:39 -0700
Message-ID<ojmhft$gep$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#639199
<http://tinyurl.com/Loudmouth-Glazier-8Feb2017> [1] who
is <http://tinyurl.com/The-Chosen-Graveyard-Vandal> needs
to be reminded after every post of his, for Glazier to explain
why & which one of Bert' 17 theories turned Bert into a stinky
Face Shitter & a Criminal Graveyard Vandal. "Get the Picture"

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#639273

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-07-06 23:19 -0700
Message-ID<595F2801.2419@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#639199
reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> 
> On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 11:38:13 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique
> > https://www.clickorlando.com/news/national/nasa-unveils-plan-to-test-asteroid-defense-technique
> >
> >
> >
> > what new technique? is NASA going to body slam an asteroid????
> >
> >
> > NASA is trying to create this 'imaginary' world of doom just to get....money.
> >
> >
> >
> > What is it with NASA, the price of McDonalds chicken nuggets went up????
> >
> >
> > How about aliens from other planets are planning to attack us?
> >
> >
> > How about...
> >
> >
> >
> > Anybody got any ideas How To terrify the planet earth??? The science fiction department have run out of ideas...
> 
> Watch out vthat they don't blow NYC off the map.I hope they saw the movie.Its been done.TreBert


you're getting paranoid like Richard Feynman...


"But I remember being in New York with my mother in a restaurant,
immediately after, and thinking about New York, and I knew how big the
bomb in Hiroshima was, how big an area it covered and so on, and I
realised from where we were - I don't know, 59th Street - that to drop
one of the 34th Street, it would spread all the way out here and all
these people would be killed and all the things would be killed. And
there wasn't only one bomb available, but it was easy to continue to
make them, and therefore that things were sort of doomed because already
it appeared to me - very early, earlier than to others who were more
optimistic - that international relations and the way people were
behaving were no different than they had ever been before and that it
was just going to go on the same way as any other thing and I was sure
that it was going, therefore, to be used very soon. So I felt
uncomfortable, and thought, really believed, that it was silly: I would
see people building a bridge and I would say "they don't understand." I
really believed that it was senseless to make anything because it would
all be destroyed very soon anyway,..." --Richard Feynman

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