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| First post | 2017-07-02 11:38 -0700 |
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NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-02 11:38 -0700
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-02 12:36 -0700
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-02 13:46 -0700
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-03 09:37 -0700
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique Oveho Anými Trofyzikovu <zfeuur@ceuuwi.ku> - 2017-07-03 17:43 +0000
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-03 13:03 -0500
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-07-04 00:37 +0200
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 00:40 +0000
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-07-04 13:29 -0500
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 18:46 +0000
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-07-04 14:42 -0500
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 19:54 +0000
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-04 19:28 -0500
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-04 17:12 -0400
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 21:22 +0000
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-04 15:26 -0700
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-04 20:21 -0400
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-04 19:33 -0500
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 00:45 +0000
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-04 21:39 -0400
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 04:46 +0000
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-05 19:40 -0400
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-06 01:20 +0000
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-05 21:46 -0400
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-06 05:08 +0000
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-06 16:44 -0400
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 18:46 -0700
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-03 23:32 -0500
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-03 23:25 -0700
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique Upech Bezradne <adeeia@bbzzeop.ic> - 2017-07-07 10:46 +0000
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 15:44 -0700
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-07-06 16:39 -0700
Re: NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-06 23:19 -0700
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-02 11:38 -0700 |
| Subject | NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique |
| Message-ID | <59593D89.1E56@ix.netcom.com> |
NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique https://www.clickorlando.com/news/national/nasa-unveils-plan-to-test-asteroid-defense-technique what new technique? is NASA going to body slam an asteroid???? NASA is trying to create this 'imaginary' world of doom just to get....money. What is it with NASA, the price of McDonalds chicken nuggets went up???? How about aliens from other planets are planning to attack us? How about... Anybody got any ideas How To terrify the planet earth??? The science fiction department have run out of ideas...
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-02 12:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <59594B34.46AE@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #638520 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique > https://www.clickorlando.com/news/national/nasa-unveils-plan-to-test-asteroid-defense-technique > > what new technique? is NASA going to body slam an asteroid???? > > NASA is trying to create this 'imaginary' world of doom just to get....money. > > What is it with NASA, the price of McDonalds chicken nuggets went up???? > > How about aliens from other planets are planning to attack us? > > How about... > > Anybody got any ideas How To terrify the planet earth??? The science fiction department have run out of ideas... Humanity could face one less doomsday scenario if NASA has its way. On Friday, the space agency announced plans to redirect the course of a small asteroid approaching Earth, as part of the Double Asteroid Redirection Test (DART), according to a NASA press release. The release notes that asteroids hit Earth nearly every day, but most are small enough to burn up in the atmosphere. But what about NASA and the kidnapped children on Mars????
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-02 13:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <59595B94.5F9@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #638528 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique > > https://www.clickorlando.com/news/national/nasa-unveils-plan-to-test-asteroid-defense-technique > > > > what new technique? is NASA going to body slam an asteroid???? > > > > NASA is trying to create this 'imaginary' world of doom just to get....money. > > > > What is it with NASA, the price of McDonalds chicken nuggets went up???? > > > > How about aliens from other planets are planning to attack us? > > > > How about... > > > > Anybody got any ideas How To terrify the planet earth??? The science fiction department have run out of ideas... > > Humanity could face one less doomsday scenario if NASA has its way. > On Friday, the space agency announced plans to redirect the course of a > small asteroid approaching Earth, > as part of the Double Asteroid Redirection Test (DART), according to a > NASA press release. > The release notes that asteroids hit Earth nearly every day, but most > are small enough to burn up in the atmosphere. THE BIG ONE IS COMMING! > > But what about NASA and the kidnapped children on Mars???? This is...disconcerting.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-03 09:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <595A72D0.4761@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #638535 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique > > > https://www.clickorlando.com/news/national/nasa-unveils-plan-to-test-asteroid-defense-technique > > > > > > what new technique? is NASA going to body slam an asteroid???? > > > > > > NASA is trying to create this 'imaginary' world of doom just to get....money. > > > > > > What is it with NASA, the price of McDonalds chicken nuggets went up???? > > > > > > How about aliens from other planets are planning to attack us? > > > > > > How about... > > > > > > Anybody got any ideas How To terrify the planet earth??? The science fiction department have run out of ideas... > > > > Humanity could face one less doomsday scenario if NASA has its way. > > On Friday, the space agency announced plans to redirect the course of a > > small asteroid approaching Earth, > > as part of the Double Asteroid Redirection Test (DART), according to a > > NASA press release. > > The release notes that asteroids hit Earth nearly every day, but most > > are small enough to burn up in the atmosphere. > > THE BIG ONE IS COMMING! > > > > > But what about NASA and the kidnapped children on Mars???? > > This is...disconcerting. Okay, lets suppose it ain't true, that NASA is not kidnapping children on Mars, is it a movie then...coming out soon? a science fiction book?? Sounds too true to be good.
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| From | Oveho Anými Trofyzikovu <zfeuur@ceuuwi.ku> |
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| Date | 2017-07-03 17:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ojdvor$15du$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #638614 |
The Starmaker wrote: >> > But what about NASA and the kidnapped children on Mars???? >> >> This is...disconcerting. > > Okay, lets suppose it ain't true, that NASA is not kidnapping children > on Mars, is it a movie then...coming out soon? a science fiction book?? > Sounds too true to be good. Nasa is a chicken, afraid putting men on Moon, and bring them safely back to Earth. Not because is easy. They already have ALL the KNOW-HOW they need. If they doesn't, then I smell a rat, which is very fishy. Just to say the least.
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| From | Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-03 13:03 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <oje0tg$18u1$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #638625 |
On 7/3/2017 12:43 PM, Oveho Anými Trofyzikovu wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>
>>>> But what about NASA and the kidnapped children on Mars????
>>>
>>> This is...disconcerting.
>>
>> Okay, lets suppose it ain't true, that NASA is not kidnapping children
>> on Mars, is it a movie then...coming out soon? a science fiction book??
>> Sounds too true to be good.
>
> Nasa is a chicken, afraid putting men on Moon, and bring them safely back
> to Earth. Not because is easy. They already have ALL the KNOW-HOW they
> need. If they doesn't, then I smell a rat, which is very fishy. Just to
> say the least.
>
You go to the Moon.
(no air, no water, no food, no cosmic ray protection, no laundry.)
You get to stay inside a CAN for your entire time.
You gotta take EVERYTHING WITH YOU.
a good place for Starfarter.
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2017-07-04 00:37 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <4613438.6fTUFtlzNn@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #638629 |
Sегg io wrote: > You go to the Moon. > > (no air, no water, no food, no cosmic ray protection, no laundry.) Air can be produced, e.g. by plants, like on the ISS. There is strong evidence to suggest that there is water on the Moon all over the place, in minerals and as pellets and sheets of water ice (likely brought in by meteoroid and asteroid impacts). Space suits already have limited cosmic ray protection. Space suits that are now being developed for Mars will work fine on the Moon, too, with minor modifications. Laundry is not a problem once you have air and water, however it will be more efficient to wear hydrophobic clothes that makes laundry unnecessary; there are already examples of that in serial production, like t-shirts that cannot get dirty. > You get to stay inside a CAN for your entire time. That was not true then (where do you think do the Moon rocks on Earth come from?) and is certainly not true now. Besides, if you build a moon-dome to live in, you can extend that dome over time. > You gotta take EVERYTHING WITH YOU. No, there are natural resources there that can be used. For example, if the moonship had a fusion reactor, you could fuel it with the helium-3 that you mine there. The reactor could power machines like 3D printers. Printed parts can be used to build small machines. Small machines can be used to build bigger machines. This is already being tested, on Earth, right now. Learn *before* you post. And stop the *mindless* crossposting. And get a real name. -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2017-07-04 00:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <jo4r2e-u29.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #638692 |
In sci.physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote: > Sегg io wrote: > >> You go to the Moon. >> >> (no air, no water, no food, no cosmic ray protection, no laundry.) > > Air can be produced, e.g. by plants, like on the ISS. > > There is strong evidence to suggest that there is water on the Moon all over > the place, in minerals and as pellets and sheets of water ice (likely > brought in by meteoroid and asteroid impacts). > > Space suits already have limited cosmic ray protection. Space suits that > are now being developed for Mars will work fine on the Moon, too, with minor > modifications. > > Laundry is not a problem once you have air and water, however it will be > more efficient to wear hydrophobic clothes that makes laundry unnecessary; > there are already examples of that in serial production, like t-shirts that > cannot get dirty. > >> You get to stay inside a CAN for your entire time. > > That was not true then (where do you think do the Moon rocks on Earth come > from?) and is certainly not true now. > > Besides, if you build a moon-dome to live in, you can extend that dome over > time. > >> You gotta take EVERYTHING WITH YOU. > > No, there are natural resources there that can be used. For example, if the > moonship had a fusion reactor, you could fuel it with the helium-3 that you > mine there. The reactor could power machines like 3D printers. Printed > parts can be used to build small machines. Small machines can be used to > build bigger machines. This is already being tested, on Earth, right now. There are no working, practical, helium-3 reactor power plants. 3D printers take special material to print and can not print more than one material at a time. 3D printers can't make things like electronics or even electrical components like wire, switches, motors, and relays. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-04 13:29 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <llmnlc5evdk96tic5pahtiso6nspddk4h6@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #638708 |
Jimp, Jimp, Jimp.... Remember the long, looong argument we had about ten years back in which you contended there would never, ever be any self-driving cars? I just had that very same argument with a neighbor, a retired accountant / pilot / programmer, *even though you can go out, right now, and buy one of the damn' things*, and in some states let it drive you home. (Then I got him talking about airplanes and he suddenly went full-tilt happy.) An addiction to conflict can be a wretched affliction. So OK, I'll start out by agreeing: Yes, and there probably won't ever be any 3HE power plants. Take that! But.... 3D printers can print only one material at a time *from a given print head*. There are plenty of them available now, this very minute, which print more than one material. 3D printers can make circuitry and electrical components. Hell, they had already long since been doing that a couple of years ago when some boffin came up with a way to 3D print batteries to run them. (They also can make buildings, metal airplane parts, soft tissue for transplantation, optics. Some of that requires machining afterwards of the 3D-printed parts.) So I disagree. Feel better now? I stayed out of that other thread because it was moving along too happily as it was, but we're on a robotics project which will likely be using industrial 3D printing tech to make many of its parts. In fact, we hope eventually to incorporate it directly into the plant to provide it a limited but economically useful capacity for self-repair. Yeah. I love the 21st Century. Glad we all made it. Look and wonder: it's a hell of a lot more fun than tag-team carping. -- Goat On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 00:40:19 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >There are no working, practical, helium-3 reactor power plants. > >3D printers take special material to print and can not print more than >one material at a time. > >3D printers can't make things like electronics or even electrical components >like wire, switches, motors, and relays.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2017-07-04 18:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <3e4t2e-i5g.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #638787 |
Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> wrote: > Jimp, Jimp, Jimp.... > > Remember the long, looong argument we had about ten years back in which > you contended there would never, ever be any self-driving cars? I never said that. <snip> > 3D printers can print only one material at a time *from a given print > head*. There are plenty of them available now, this very minute, which > print more than one material. Not highly dissimilar materials like metal conductors and electrical insulators though likely eventually. <snip remaining arm waving> -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-04 14:42 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <dornlc9c7ibtclovnfqqjao4kd0kc9q12l@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #638792 |
On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 18:46:59 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> wrote: >> Jimp, Jimp, Jimp.... >> >> Remember the long, looong argument we had about ten years back in which >> you contended there would never, ever be any self-driving cars? > >I never said that. > ><snip> > >> 3D printers can print only one material at a time *from a given print >> head*. There are plenty of them available now, this very minute, which >> print more than one material. > >Not highly dissimilar materials like metal conductors and electrical >insulators though likely eventually. > ><snip remaining arm waving> Sure you did. In this very newsgroup. The highlight of the discussion, as I recall, was you asserting that it would never work because self-driving cars would never be able to things like detect curbs buried entirely beneath snow, tasks which human drivers also can't accomplish. As for the arm-waving, it's all a description of technology which is available, off the shelf, today. Like those cars now are. Enjoy your holiday. -- Goat
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2017-07-04 19:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <kc8t2e-jjg.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #638796 |
Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 18:46:59 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >>Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Jimp, Jimp, Jimp.... >>> >>> Remember the long, looong argument we had about ten years back in which >>> you contended there would never, ever be any self-driving cars? >> >>I never said that. >> >><snip> >> >>> 3D printers can print only one material at a time *from a given print >>> head*. There are plenty of them available now, this very minute, which >>> print more than one material. >> >>Not highly dissimilar materials like metal conductors and electrical >>insulators though likely eventually. >> >><snip remaining arm waving> > > Sure you did. In this very newsgroup. > > The highlight of the discussion, as I recall, was you asserting that it > would never work because self-driving cars would never be able to things > like detect curbs buried entirely beneath snow, tasks which human > drivers also can't accomplish. Nope. What I said was more along the lines of self-driving cars would eventually fail due to litigation. > As for the arm-waving, it's all a description of technology which is > available, off the shelf, today. Like those cars now are. Nope. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-04 19:28 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ojhbsg$6k2$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #638799 |
On 7/4/2017 2:54 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 18:46:59 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> >>> Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Jimp, Jimp, Jimp.... >> The highlight of the discussion, as I recall, was you asserting that it >> would never work because self-driving cars would never be able to things >> like detect curbs buried entirely beneath snow, tasks which human >> drivers also can't accomplish. > > Nope. > > What I said was more along the lines of self-driving cars would eventually > fail due to litigation. agree. making SDCar more intellegent w more sensors etc, more algorithums etc will increase the probability of failure, a well known fact in Reliability Engineering, and can be specifically calculated. > >> As for the arm-waving, it's all a description of technology which is >> available, off the shelf, today. Like those cars now are. > > Nope. agree. most carry a high power laser for imaging, rangefinding, and the last I heard, Googles cost $50,000 (laser only) operates at 905 nm I think. it is not eye safe within 3 foot.
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2017-07-04 17:12 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <595c04be$0$41894$c3e8da3$3a1a2348@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #638708 |
On 7/3/2017 8:40 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > In sci.physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote: >> Sегg io wrote: >> >>> You go to the Moon. >>> >>> (no air, no water, no food, no cosmic ray protection, no laundry.) >> >> Air can be produced, e.g. by plants, like on the ISS. >> >> There is strong evidence to suggest that there is water on the Moon all over >> the place, in minerals and as pellets and sheets of water ice (likely >> brought in by meteoroid and asteroid impacts). >> >> Space suits already have limited cosmic ray protection. Space suits that >> are now being developed for Mars will work fine on the Moon, too, with minor >> modifications. >> >> Laundry is not a problem once you have air and water, however it will be >> more efficient to wear hydrophobic clothes that makes laundry unnecessary; >> there are already examples of that in serial production, like t-shirts that >> cannot get dirty. >> >>> You get to stay inside a CAN for your entire time. >> >> That was not true then (where do you think do the Moon rocks on Earth come >> from?) and is certainly not true now. >> >> Besides, if you build a moon-dome to live in, you can extend that dome over >> time. >> >>> You gotta take EVERYTHING WITH YOU. >> >> No, there are natural resources there that can be used. For example, if the >> moonship had a fusion reactor, you could fuel it with the helium-3 that you >> mine there. The reactor could power machines like 3D printers. Printed >> parts can be used to build small machines. Small machines can be used to >> build bigger machines. This is already being tested, on Earth, right now. > > There are no working, practical, helium-3 reactor power plants. > > 3D printers take special material to print and can not print more than > one material at a time. Of course they can. You must be a technician and the usual engineer that hang around here. > 3D printers can't make things like electronics or even electrical components > like wire, switches, motors, and relays. Jim you are as dumb as a fence post. These days 3D printers that print in metal are common. Try doing a few searches on the computer befor opening your yap and embarrassing yourself and our country. >
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2017-07-04 21:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5idt2e-r5h.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #638810 |
benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote: > On 7/3/2017 8:40 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> In sci.physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote: >>> Sегg io wrote: >>> >>>> You go to the Moon. >>>> >>>> (no air, no water, no food, no cosmic ray protection, no laundry.) >>> >>> Air can be produced, e.g. by plants, like on the ISS. >>> >>> There is strong evidence to suggest that there is water on the Moon all over >>> the place, in minerals and as pellets and sheets of water ice (likely >>> brought in by meteoroid and asteroid impacts). >>> >>> Space suits already have limited cosmic ray protection. Space suits that >>> are now being developed for Mars will work fine on the Moon, too, with minor >>> modifications. >>> >>> Laundry is not a problem once you have air and water, however it will be >>> more efficient to wear hydrophobic clothes that makes laundry unnecessary; >>> there are already examples of that in serial production, like t-shirts that >>> cannot get dirty. >>> >>>> You get to stay inside a CAN for your entire time. >>> >>> That was not true then (where do you think do the Moon rocks on Earth come >>> from?) and is certainly not true now. >>> >>> Besides, if you build a moon-dome to live in, you can extend that dome over >>> time. >>> >>>> You gotta take EVERYTHING WITH YOU. >>> >>> No, there are natural resources there that can be used. For example, if the >>> moonship had a fusion reactor, you could fuel it with the helium-3 that you >>> mine there. The reactor could power machines like 3D printers. Printed >>> parts can be used to build small machines. Small machines can be used to >>> build bigger machines. This is already being tested, on Earth, right now. >> >> There are no working, practical, helium-3 reactor power plants. >> >> 3D printers take special material to print and can not print more than >> one material at a time. > > > Of course they can. You must be a technician and the usual engineer that > hang around here. Where's the 3D printer that prints steel and teflon? >> 3D printers can't make things like electronics or even electrical components >> like wire, switches, motors, and relays. > > Jim you are as dumb as a fence post. These days 3D printers that print > in metal are common. Try doing a few searches on the computer befor > opening your yap and embarrassing yourself and our country. Where's the 3D printer that prints #22 7 strand, tinned copper wire with insulation? -- Jim Pennino
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-04 15:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <595C1605.13C@ix.netcom.com> |
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jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > > benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote: > > On 7/3/2017 8:40 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >> In sci.physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote: > >>> Sегg io wrote: > >>> > >>>> You go to the Moon. > >>>> > >>>> (no air, no water, no food, no cosmic ray protection, no laundry.) > >>> > >>> Air can be produced, e.g. by plants, like on the ISS. > >>> > >>> There is strong evidence to suggest that there is water on the Moon all over > >>> the place, in minerals and as pellets and sheets of water ice (likely > >>> brought in by meteoroid and asteroid impacts). > >>> > >>> Space suits already have limited cosmic ray protection. Space suits that > >>> are now being developed for Mars will work fine on the Moon, too, with minor > >>> modifications. > >>> > >>> Laundry is not a problem once you have air and water, however it will be > >>> more efficient to wear hydrophobic clothes that makes laundry unnecessary; > >>> there are already examples of that in serial production, like t-shirts that > >>> cannot get dirty. > >>> > >>>> You get to stay inside a CAN for your entire time. > >>> > >>> That was not true then (where do you think do the Moon rocks on Earth come > >>> from?) and is certainly not true now. > >>> > >>> Besides, if you build a moon-dome to live in, you can extend that dome over > >>> time. > >>> > >>>> You gotta take EVERYTHING WITH YOU. > >>> > >>> No, there are natural resources there that can be used. For example, if the > >>> moonship had a fusion reactor, you could fuel it with the helium-3 that you > >>> mine there. The reactor could power machines like 3D printers. Printed > >>> parts can be used to build small machines. Small machines can be used to > >>> build bigger machines. This is already being tested, on Earth, right now. > >> > >> There are no working, practical, helium-3 reactor power plants. > >> > >> 3D printers take special material to print and can not print more than > >> one material at a time. > > > > > > Of course they can. You must be a technician and the usual engineer that > > hang around here. > > Where's the 3D printer that prints steel and teflon? > > >> 3D printers can't make things like electronics or even electrical components > >> like wire, switches, motors, and relays. > > > > Jim you are as dumb as a fence post. These days 3D printers that print > > in metal are common. Try doing a few searches on the computer befor > > opening your yap and embarrassing yourself and our country. > > Where's the 3D printer that prints #22 7 strand, tinned copper wire with > insulation? > > -- > Jim Pennino where is the 3d printer that printed this earth?
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2017-07-04 20:21 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <595c30fe$0$10656$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com> |
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On 7/4/2017 5:22 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote: >> On 7/3/2017 8:40 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> In sci.physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote: >>>> Sегg io wrote: >>>> >>>>> You go to the Moon. >>>>> >>>>> (no air, no water, no food, no cosmic ray protection, no laundry.) >>>> >>>> Air can be produced, e.g. by plants, like on the ISS. >>>> >>>> There is strong evidence to suggest that there is water on the Moon all over >>>> the place, in minerals and as pellets and sheets of water ice (likely >>>> brought in by meteoroid and asteroid impacts). >>>> >>>> Space suits already have limited cosmic ray protection. Space suits that >>>> are now being developed for Mars will work fine on the Moon, too, with minor >>>> modifications. >>>> >>>> Laundry is not a problem once you have air and water, however it will be >>>> more efficient to wear hydrophobic clothes that makes laundry unnecessary; >>>> there are already examples of that in serial production, like t-shirts that >>>> cannot get dirty. >>>> >>>>> You get to stay inside a CAN for your entire time. >>>> >>>> That was not true then (where do you think do the Moon rocks on Earth come >>>> from?) and is certainly not true now. >>>> >>>> Besides, if you build a moon-dome to live in, you can extend that dome over >>>> time. >>>> >>>>> You gotta take EVERYTHING WITH YOU. >>>> >>>> No, there are natural resources there that can be used. For example, if the >>>> moonship had a fusion reactor, you could fuel it with the helium-3 that you >>>> mine there. The reactor could power machines like 3D printers. Printed >>>> parts can be used to build small machines. Small machines can be used to >>>> build bigger machines. This is already being tested, on Earth, right now. >>> >>> There are no working, practical, helium-3 reactor power plants. >>> >>> 3D printers take special material to print and can not print more than >>> one material at a time. >> >> >> Of course they can. You must be a technician and the usual engineer that >> hang around here. > > Where's the 3D printer that prints steel and teflon? Chimp you are dumber and more embarrassing than ArchiePoo. Don't you have enough sense to actually do a computer search before you open your stupid yap? https://static1.sw-cdn.net/rrstatic/img/materials/steel-material-hub-20131023.jpg They are steel "klein bottles". Go look them up or ask your butt-buddy HVAC. >>> 3D printers can't make things like electronics or even electrical components >>> like wire, switches, motors, and relays. >> >> Jim you are as dumb as a fence post. These days 3D printers that print >> in metal are common. Try doing a few searches on the computer befor >> opening your yap and embarrassing yourself and our country. > > Where's the 3D printer that prints #22 7 strand, tinned copper wire with > insulation? How old are you? Old enough for the barrel boat? Old enough to get with Bert and Archie in the Alzheimer's contest? Nobody uses #22 7 strand wire anymore. Circuit boards are made with copper and plastic. Both of which are easily printable. Even the plating can be added. Do I have to teach you everything? Next you'll be asking if tube sockets can be made with 3D printing! Yes they can! Just think of it Chimp, you can whip out a socket for any kind of tube, octal, loctal, 9 pin minature, 7 pin miniature, compactron just with the touch of a computer key! What an advance in science!
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| From | Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-04 19:33 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ojhc49$6qp$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
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On 7/4/2017 7:21 PM, benj wrote: > On 7/4/2017 5:22 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote: >>> On 7/3/2017 8:40 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>> In sci.physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote: >>>>> Sегg io wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You go to the Moon. >>>>>> >>>>>> (no air, no water, no food, no cosmic ray protection, no >>>>>> laundry.) >>>>> >>>>> Air can be produced, e.g. by plants, like on the ISS. >>>>> >>>>> There is strong evidence to suggest that there is water on the Moon >>>>> all over >>>>> the place, in minerals and as pellets and sheets of water ice (likely >>>>> brought in by meteoroid and asteroid impacts). >>>>> >>>>> Space suits already have limited cosmic ray protection. Space >>>>> suits that >>>>> are now being developed for Mars will work fine on the Moon, too, >>>>> with minor >>>>> modifications. >>>>> >>>>> Laundry is not a problem once you have air and water, however it >>>>> will be >>>>> more efficient to wear hydrophobic clothes that makes laundry >>>>> unnecessary; >>>>> there are already examples of that in serial production, like >>>>> t-shirts that >>>>> cannot get dirty. >>>>>> You get to stay inside a CAN for your entire time. >>>>> >>>>> That was not true then (where do you think do the Moon rocks on >>>>> Earth come >>>>> from?) and is certainly not true now. >>>>> >>>>> Besides, if you build a moon-dome to live in, you can extend that >>>>> dome over >>>>> time. >>>>>> You gotta take EVERYTHING WITH YOU. >>>>> >>>>> No, there are natural resources there that can be used. For >>>>> example, if the >>>>> moonship had a fusion reactor, you could fuel it with the helium-3 >>>>> that you >>>>> mine there. The reactor could power machines like 3D printers. >>>>> Printed >>>>> parts can be used to build small machines. Small machines can be >>>>> used to >>>>> build bigger machines. This is already being tested, on Earth, >>>>> right now. >>>> >>>> There are no working, practical, helium-3 reactor power plants. >>>> >>>> 3D printers take special material to print and can not print more than >>>> one material at a time. >>> >>> >>> Of course they can. You must be a technician and the usual engineer that >>> hang around here. >> >> Where's the 3D printer that prints steel and teflon? > > Chimp you are dumber and more embarrassing than ArchiePoo. > Don't you have enough sense to actually do a computer search before you > open your stupid yap? > > https://static1.sw-cdn.net/rrstatic/img/materials/steel-material-hub-20131023.jpg > > > They are steel "klein bottles". Go look them up or ask your butt-buddy > HVAC. and embarrassing yourself and our country. >> >> Where's the 3D printer that prints #22 7 strand, tinned copper wire with >> insulation? > > How old are you? Old enough for the barrel boat? Old enough to get with > Bert and Archie in the Alzheimer's contest? Nobody uses #22 7 strand > wire anymore. Circuit boards are made with copper and plastic. Both of > which are easily printable. Even the plating can be added. Do I have to > teach you everything? Next you'll be asking if tube sockets can be made > with 3D printing! Yes they can! Just think of it Chimp, you can whip out > a socket for any kind of tube, octal, loctal, 9 pin minature, 7 pin > miniature, compactron just with the touch of a computer key! What an > advance in science! > > nice thought, I can repair my car with tools I print out on my 3D printer! (but I have to buy materials, hardened steel wire, Argon Gas, etc, so a 10mm socket will cost me $30 and about 4 hours of time.)
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| Date | 2017-07-05 00:45 +0000 |
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benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote: > On 7/4/2017 5:22 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote: >>> On 7/3/2017 8:40 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>> In sci.physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote: >>>>> Sегg io wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You go to the Moon. >>>>>> >>>>>> (no air, no water, no food, no cosmic ray protection, no laundry.) >>>>> >>>>> Air can be produced, e.g. by plants, like on the ISS. >>>>> >>>>> There is strong evidence to suggest that there is water on the Moon all over >>>>> the place, in minerals and as pellets and sheets of water ice (likely >>>>> brought in by meteoroid and asteroid impacts). >>>>> >>>>> Space suits already have limited cosmic ray protection. Space suits that >>>>> are now being developed for Mars will work fine on the Moon, too, with minor >>>>> modifications. >>>>> >>>>> Laundry is not a problem once you have air and water, however it will be >>>>> more efficient to wear hydrophobic clothes that makes laundry unnecessary; >>>>> there are already examples of that in serial production, like t-shirts that >>>>> cannot get dirty. >>>>> >>>>>> You get to stay inside a CAN for your entire time. >>>>> >>>>> That was not true then (where do you think do the Moon rocks on Earth come >>>>> from?) and is certainly not true now. >>>>> >>>>> Besides, if you build a moon-dome to live in, you can extend that dome over >>>>> time. >>>>> >>>>>> You gotta take EVERYTHING WITH YOU. >>>>> >>>>> No, there are natural resources there that can be used. For example, if the >>>>> moonship had a fusion reactor, you could fuel it with the helium-3 that you >>>>> mine there. The reactor could power machines like 3D printers. Printed >>>>> parts can be used to build small machines. Small machines can be used to >>>>> build bigger machines. This is already being tested, on Earth, right now. >>>> >>>> There are no working, practical, helium-3 reactor power plants. >>>> >>>> 3D printers take special material to print and can not print more than >>>> one material at a time. >>> >>> >>> Of course they can. You must be a technician and the usual engineer that >>> hang around here. >> >> Where's the 3D printer that prints steel and teflon? > > Chimp you are dumber Unable to answer the question, the troll fall back to ad hominem. <snip remaining troll babble> -- Jim Pennino
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2017-07-04 21:39 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <595c4342$0$51763$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #638846 |
On 7/4/2017 8:45 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote: >> On 7/4/2017 5:22 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote: >>>> On 7/3/2017 8:40 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>> In sci.physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote: >>>>>> Sегg io wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> You go to the Moon. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (no air, no water, no food, no cosmic ray protection, no laundry.) >>>>>> >>>>>> Air can be produced, e.g. by plants, like on the ISS. >>>>>> >>>>>> There is strong evidence to suggest that there is water on the Moon all over >>>>>> the place, in minerals and as pellets and sheets of water ice (likely >>>>>> brought in by meteoroid and asteroid impacts). >>>>>> >>>>>> Space suits already have limited cosmic ray protection. Space suits that >>>>>> are now being developed for Mars will work fine on the Moon, too, with minor >>>>>> modifications. >>>>>> >>>>>> Laundry is not a problem once you have air and water, however it will be >>>>>> more efficient to wear hydrophobic clothes that makes laundry unnecessary; >>>>>> there are already examples of that in serial production, like t-shirts that >>>>>> cannot get dirty. >>>>>> >>>>>>> You get to stay inside a CAN for your entire time. >>>>>> >>>>>> That was not true then (where do you think do the Moon rocks on Earth come >>>>>> from?) and is certainly not true now. >>>>>> >>>>>> Besides, if you build a moon-dome to live in, you can extend that dome over >>>>>> time. >>>>>> >>>>>>> You gotta take EVERYTHING WITH YOU. >>>>>> >>>>>> No, there are natural resources there that can be used. For example, if the >>>>>> moonship had a fusion reactor, you could fuel it with the helium-3 that you >>>>>> mine there. The reactor could power machines like 3D printers. Printed >>>>>> parts can be used to build small machines. Small machines can be used to >>>>>> build bigger machines. This is already being tested, on Earth, right now. >>>>> >>>>> There are no working, practical, helium-3 reactor power plants. >>>>> >>>>> 3D printers take special material to print and can not print more than >>>>> one material at a time. >>>> >>>> >>>> Of course they can. You must be a technician and the usual engineer that >>>> hang around here. >>> >>> Where's the 3D printer that prints steel and teflon? >> >> Chimp you are dumber > > Unable to answer the question, the troll fall back to ad hominem. Blind and deaf Chimp pretends not to have read the actual link I gave him to 3D printed steel. (picture and all so he could understand) Yeah that's it, Chimp. You SAY you've "won" and that means you've "won" and I'm a troll. Next time look up your own damn references if WebTV can handle it. All you have is fantasy, lies, ignorance and ad hominem.
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