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  Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 06:38 -0700
    Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Sегgi о <iinvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-15 08:57 -0500
      Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 07:41 -0700
        Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Sегgi о <iinvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-15 12:52 -0500
          Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 16:14 -0700
            Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Sегgi о <iinvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-16 13:16 -0500
              Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 08:51 -0700
                Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Sегgi о <iinvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-22 21:54 -0500
                  Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-24 15:28 -0700
    Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-15 16:53 -0700
      Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 17:31 -0700
        Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-15 22:54 -0700
          Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 10:23 -0700
            Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-16 13:32 -0700
              Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 14:47 -0700
                Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-16 20:32 -0400
                  Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-17 08:22 -0700
                Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-17 10:44 -0700
                  Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-18 11:52 -0700
                    Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-18 13:58 -0700
                      Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-06-18 14:09 -0700
                        Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-18 15:22 -0700
                          Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-18 16:31 -0700
                            Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 05:26 -0700
    Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... "nuny@bid.nes" <alien8752@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 00:59 -0700
      Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 10:46 -0700
        Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... "nuny@bid.nes" <alien8752@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 14:51 -0700
          Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 17:45 -0700
    Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-06-22 18:40 +1000
      Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-22 09:31 -0700
        Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-23 06:38 -0700
          Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-23 10:25 -0700
            Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-23 16:38 -0700
              Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-24 11:23 -0700
                Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-24 12:57 -0700

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#636485 — Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had...

Calculate the probability of any two four-dimensional objects colliding.
You all do know what a collision is? Good for you! Now... go calculate.
Assignment due by Friday, no class lasts forever. Chop chop! Run like the wind!
Besides, if you submit by Friday, I'll have something to do over the Weekend.
God knows the wife is a waste of time... but I digress... Vera? VERA?! Et tu?

I once had a life, or should I sing, life once had me... The BeatlesIsmIshQ.

-- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८! 

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#636488

On 6/15/2017 8:38 AM, Mahipal wrote:
> Calculate the probability of any two four-dimensional objects colliding.
> You all do know what a collision is? Good for you! Now... go calculate.
> Assignment due by Friday, no class lasts forever. Chop chop! Run like the wind!
> Besides, if you submit by Friday, I'll have something to do over the Weekend.
> God knows the wife is a waste of time... but I digress... Vera? VERA?! Et tu?
> 
> I once had a life, or should I sing, life once had me... The BeatlesIsmIshQ.
> 
> -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
> 

            EZ-Cheeesey

two objects;

zero dimentions => already collided

one dimention => two points on a line, are they within collision range
	need to know size of "objects", call it J
	need to know length of line, call it K
		then P is simply (J/K) => we covered the entire line by the number of 
first objects, then because adding second object will overlap the first 
object on the line.

two dimentions => devide space by area of object call it L
	need to know area of object call it L
	need to know the total area of the 2-D space, call it M
	P = L/M	

etc.

4 dimentions,
	 need to know 4th dim space occupied by object, call it Q
	need to know total space of 4th dimentional used, callit R
	P=R/Q

[no disperriaging remarks were used, only misted speltings]

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#636496

On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 9:57:24 AM UTC-4, Sегgi о wrote:
> On 6/15/2017 8:38 AM, Mahipal wrote:
> > Calculate the probability of any two four-dimensional objects colliding.
> > You all do know what a collision is? Good for you! Now... go calculate.
> > Assignment due by Friday, no class lasts forever. Chop chop! Run like the wind!
> > Besides, if you submit by Friday, I'll have something to do over the Weekend.
> > God knows the wife is a waste of time... but I digress... Vera? VERA?! Et tu?
> > 
> > I once had a life, or should I sing, life once had me... The BeatlesIsmIshQ.
> > 
> > -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
> > 
> 
>             EZ-Cheeesey

Actually not. While the answer is obvious, the proof of it is quite complicated.

> two objects;
> 
> zero dimentions => already collided

Yes, I have to agree with that. But SergioJi, the word is dimensions.

> one dimention => two points on a line, are they within collision range
> 	need to know size of "objects", call it J
> 	need to know length of line, call it K
> 		then P is simply (J/K) => we covered the entire line by the number of 
> first objects, then because adding second object will overlap the first 
> object on the line.

Be careful, and do lookup dimentia/Dementia. Again, sorry, not an English Class here.

> two dimentions => devide space by area of object call it L
> 	need to know area of object call it L
> 	need to know the total area of the 2-D space, call it M
> 	P = L/M	
> 
> etc.

That might work. The actual proof is really difficult and very neat. 
Where are me m(y) 1990s class notes of Mathematical Physics?!
Hey... it's not like I walk around, singing, such questions by meself.

There are faces I remember... all my life... though some have changed...

> 4 dimentions,
> 	 need to know 4th dim space occupied by object, call it Q
> 	need to know total space of 4th dimentional used, callit R
> 	P=R/Q

That's a recurring strategy SergioJi, what's the answer/solution?

> [no disperriaging remarks were used, only misted speltings]

Think of it this way: Two four-dimensional objects walk into a bar...

Some questions are best left open Open OPEN... this one Q has an exact answer.

-- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८! 
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace. 

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#636524

On 6/15/2017 9:41 AM, Mahipal wrote:
> On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 9:57:24 AM UTC-4, Sегgi о wrote:
>> On 6/15/2017 8:38 AM, Mahipal wrote:
>>> Calculate the probability of any two four-dimensional objects colliding.
>>> You all do know what a collision is? Good for you! Now... go calculate.
>>> Assignment due by Friday, no class lasts forever. Chop chop! Run like the wind!
>>> Besides, if you submit by Friday, I'll have something to do over the Weekend.
>>> God knows the wife is a waste of time... but I digress... Vera? VERA?! Et tu?
>>>
>>> I once had a life, or should I sing, life once had me... The BeatlesIsmIshQ.
>>>
>>> -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
>>>
>>
>>              EZ-Cheeesey
> 
> Actually not. While the answer is obvious, the proof of it is quite complicated.
> 
>> two objects;
>>
>> zero dimentions => already collided
> 
> Yes, I have to agree with that. But SergioJi, the word is dimensions.
> 
>> one dimention => two points on a line, are they within collision range
>> 	need to know size of "objects", call it J
>> 	need to know length of line, call it K
>> 		then P is simply (J/K) => we covered the entire line by the number of
>> first objects, then because adding second object will overlap the first
>> object on the line.
> 
> Be careful, and do lookup dimentia/Dementia. Again, sorry, not an English Class here.

    .....  one dimentia, two dimentia, (yep, hillary and trump)

> 
>> two dimentions => devide space by area of object call it L
>> 	need to know area of object call it L
>> 	need to know the total area of the 2-D space, call it M
>> 	P = L/M	
>>
>> etc.
> 
> That might work. The actual proof is really difficult and very neat.
> Where are me m(y) 1990s class notes of Mathematical Physics?!
> Hey... it's not like I walk around, singing, such questions by meself.

I still have the textbooks I took the classes with on the bookshelf, 
from the 19x0's. (cant sell them now, too cheap) They called us lizards 
back then, because...   [engineers, collage, apperance, before____]

> 
> There are faces I remember... all my life... though some have changed...
> 
>> 4 dimentions,
>> 	 need to know 4th dim space occupied by object, call it Q
>> 	need to know total space of 4th dimentional used, callit R
>> 	P=R/Q
> 
> That's a recurring strategy SergioJi, what's the answer/solution?

I cannot visualize it.
I Could in 3D, all simple ratios.
If I assumed out of the blue "sizes" of things, but I admit, I dont know 
what 'size' means in 4D, 10 quartic meters ?

> 
>> [no disperriaging remarks were used, only misted speltings]
> 
> Think of it this way: Two four-dimensional objects walk into a bar...
> 

I know that feeling, I was in a bar, doing Ouzo shots, and got 4th 
dimentional alright, not sure how I got outta there, some kind of 
"multidimentional transference one cannot remember", betcha.

> Some questions are best left open Open OPEN... this one Q has an exact answer.
> 
> -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.
> 

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#636573

On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 1:52:25 PM UTC-4, Sегgi о wrote:
> On 6/15/2017 9:41 AM, Mahipal wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 9:57:24 AM UTC-4, Sегgi о wrote:
> >> On 6/15/2017 8:38 AM, Mahipal wrote:
> >>> Calculate the probability of any two four-dimensional objects colliding.
> >>> You all do know what a collision is? Good for you! Now... go calculate.
> >>> Assignment due by Friday, no class lasts forever. Chop chop! Run like the wind!
> >>> Besides, if you submit by Friday, I'll have something to do over the Weekend.
> >>> God knows the wife is a waste of time... but I digress... Vera? VERA?! Et tu?
> >>>
> >>> I once had a life, or should I sing, life once had me... The BeatlesIsmIshQ.
> >>>
> >>> -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
> >>
> >>              EZ-Cheeesey
> > 
> > Actually not. While the answer is obvious, the proof of it is quite complicated.
> > 
> >> two objects;
> >>
> >> zero dimentions => already collided
> > 
> > Yes, I have to agree with that. But SergioJi, the word is dimensions.
> > 
> >> one dimention => two points on a line, are they within collision range
> >> 	need to know size of "objects", call it J
> >> 	need to know length of line, call it K
> >> 		then P is simply (J/K) => we covered the entire line by the number of
> >> first objects, then because adding second object will overlap the first
> >> object on the line.
> > 
> > Be careful, and do lookup dimentia/Dementia. Again, sorry, not an English Class here.
> 
>     .....  one dimentia, two dimentia, (yep, hillary and trump)

Hillary and Comey are now both famous private citizens. TrumpET blows his own horn.

> >> two dimentions => devide space by area of object call it L
> >> 	need to know area of object call it L
> >> 	need to know the total area of the 2-D space, call it M
> >> 	P = L/M	
> >>
> >> etc.
> > 
> > That might work. The actual proof is really difficult and very neat.
> > Where are me m(y) 1990s class notes of Mathematical Physics?!
> > Hey... it's not like I walk around, singing, such questions by meself.
> 
> I still have the textbooks I took the classes with on the bookshelf, 
> from the 19x0's. (cant sell them now, too cheap) They called us lizards 
> back then, because...   [engineers, collage, apperance, before____]

Actually, me too! I still have all my college textbooks. If any of me
m(y) great teachers/professors are still alive today, they'd be proud!
I think they'd be proud. Them Gurus never ever call me. Ever?! W T F...

> > There are faces I remember... all my life... though some have changed...
> > 
> >> 4 dimentions,
> >> 	 need to know 4th dim space occupied by object, call it Q
> >> 	need to know total space of 4th dimentional used, callit R
> >> 	P=R/Q
> > 
> > That's a recurring strategy SergioJi, what's the answer/solution?
> 
> I cannot visualize it.
> I Could in 3D, all simple ratios.
> If I assumed out of the blue "sizes" of things, but I admit, I dont know 
> what 'size' means in 4D, 10 quartic meters ?

I'm not set on the idea that it is a visualization problem, alone.
No CGI need apply. We're thinking here... Walk me m(y) way...

> >> [no disperriaging remarks were used, only misted speltings]
> > 
> > Think of it this way: Two four-dimensional objects walk into a bar...
> 
> I know that feeling, I was in a bar, doing Ouzo shots, and got 4th 
> dimentional alright, not sure how I got outta there, some kind of 
> "multidimentional transference one cannot remember", betcha.

I love Ouzo (Anise in Greek, Sonf in Hindi) shots, though I mostly drink Vodka.

> > Some questions are best left open Open OPEN... this one Q has an exact answer.

-- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.

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#636662

On 6/15/2017 6:14 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 1:52:25 PM UTC-4, Sегgi о wrote:
>> On 6/15/2017 9:41 AM, Mahipal wrote:
>>> On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 9:57:24 AM UTC-4, Sегgi о wrote:
>>>> On 6/15/2017 8:38 AM, Mahipal wrote:
>>>>> Calculate the probability of any two four-dimensional objects colliding.
>>>>> You all do know what a collision is? Good for you! Now... go calculate.
>>>>> Assignment due by Friday, no class lasts forever. Chop chop! Run like the wind!
>>>>> Besides, if you submit by Friday, I'll have something to do over the Weekend.
>>>>> God knows the wife is a waste of time... but I digress... Vera? VERA?! Et tu?
>>>>>
>>>>> I once had a life, or should I sing, life once had me... The BeatlesIsmIshQ.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
>>>>
>>>>               EZ-Cheeesey

>>> Actually not. While the answer is obvious, the proof of it is quite complicated.
>>>
>>>> two objects;
>>>>
>>>> zero dimentions => already collided
>>>
>>> Yes, I have to agree with that. But SergioJi, the word is dimensions.
>>>
>>>> one dimention => two points on a line, are they within collision range
>>>> 	need to know size of "objects", call it J
>>>> 	need to know length of line, call it K
>>>> 		then P is simply (J/K) => we covered the entire line by the number of
>>>> first objects, then because adding second object will overlap the first
>>>> object on the line.

>>> Be careful, and do lookup dimentia/Dementia. Again, sorry, not an English Class here.
>>
>>      .....  one dimentia, two dimentia, (yep, hillary and trump)
> 
> Hillary and Comey are now both famous private citizens. TrumpET blows his own horn.
> 
>>>> two dimentions => devide space by area of object call it L
>>>> 	need to know area of object call it L
>>>> 	need to know the total area of the 2-D space, call it M
>>>> 	P = L/M	
>>>>
>>>> etc.

>>> That might work. The actual proof is really difficult and very neat.
>>> Where are me m(y) 1990s class notes of Mathematical Physics?!
>>> Hey... it's not like I walk around, singing, such questions by meself.
>>
>> I still have the textbooks I took the classes with on the bookshelf,
>> from the 19x0's. (cant sell them now, too cheap) They called us lizards
>> back then, because...   [engineers, collage, apperance, before____]
> 
> Actually, me too! I still have all my college textbooks. If any of me
> m(y) great teachers/professors are still alive today, they'd be proud!
> I think they'd be proud. Them Gurus never ever call me. Ever?! W T F...
> 
>>> There are faces I remember... all my life... though some have changed...


4 dimentions,
>>>> 	 need to know 4th dim space occupied by object, call it Q
>>>> 	need to know total space of 4th dimentional used, callit R
>>>> 	P=R/Q
>>>
>>> That's a recurring strategy SergioJi, what's the answer/solution?
>>
>> I cannot visualize it.
>> I Could in 3D, all simple ratios.
>> If I assumed out of the blue "sizes" of things, but I admit, I dont know
>> what 'size' means in 4D, 10 quartic meters ?
> 
> I'm not set on the idea that it is a visualization problem, alone.
> No CGI need apply. We're thinking here... Walk me m(y) way...
> 
>>>> [no disperriaging remarks were used, only misted speltings]

>>> Think of it this way: Two four-dimensional objects walk into a bar...
>>
>> I know that feeling, I was in a bar, doing Ouzo shots, and got 4th
>> dimentional alright, not sure how I got outta there, some kind of
>> "multidimentional transference one cannot remember", betcha.
> 
> I love Ouzo (Anise in Greek, Sonf in Hindi) shots, though I mostly drink Vodka.
> 
>>> Some questions are best left open Open OPEN... this one Q has an exact answer.
> 
> -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.
> 

[Vodka and me parted ways long ago, no gin either, no mint schnapps either]

Found this paper;

"A Method for Calculating Probability of Collision between Space Objects"

http://www.raa-journal.org/raa/index.php/raa/article/viewFile/1587/1442

what is interesting is that they have a compact equation, for 3D, which 
can be easily extended into 4 dimentions.

But they are able to generate equations using the constraints of stuff 
orbiting earth, space junk. BUT even that can be backed out, perhaps 
backing out leaves one with nada, the general case.  And Im sure they 
have  sizes of the objects in there somewhere.

basically P = Pr * Pt   [delta distance, and arrival time]


from the paper:
4 CONCLUSIONS
The existing general method for calculating the probability of collision 
provides sufficiently accurate results, but is not based on a direct 
connection between the probability of collision, the geometry of the 
encounter and the related error covariance.

Based on the geometry of the encounter, a method is developed to compute 
probability of collision. This method gives an explicit expression to 
compute probability of collision which is expressed as a function of the 
radial and the cross section components of the relative position and 
error covariance.

The expression is compact and advantageous for directly analyzing the 
factors that influence the probability of collision. A computer program 
is developed to implement the technique, and the results of calculations 
are compared with the general method, which show that this method is 
applicable to most situations where assessing the risk of collision in a 
near-circular orbit is required. Additionally, the method separates 
orbit motions in the radial direction from those in the cross section. 
Therefore, position errors and geometric sizes of the two components can 
be handled differently to improve precision, especially for irregularly 
shaped spacecrafts, such as shuttles with wings. Continuation of this 
work is currently in progress.

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#637061

On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, Sегgi о wrote:
> On 6/15/2017 6:14 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 1:52:25 PM UTC-4, Sегgi о wrote:

<trim>

> >>> Think of it this way: Two four-dimensional objects walk into a bar...
> >>
> >> I know that feeling, I was in a bar, doing Ouzo shots, and got 4th
> >> dimentional alright, not sure how I got outta there, some kind of
> >> "multidimentional transference one cannot remember", betcha.
> > 
> > I love Ouzo (Anise in Greek, Sonf in Hindi) shots, though I mostly drink Vodka.
> > 
> >>> Some questions are best left open Open OPEN... this one Q has an exact answer.
> > 
> > -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
> > Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.
> 
> [Vodka and me parted ways long ago, no gin either, no mint schnapps either]

I really don't like gin. If I'm out of all other drinks, only then gin will do.

I started this thread, I feel obligated to respond. Talk about Weird(y)!

I got one DUI in my 56 years of living. Everybody now thinks I'm a failure!
I apply for jobs, hey what's this DUI? Btw, you're also very old too. Get lost.
It's not just a Reality Check, it's your Background Check. Welcome to BigData.

That's 40 years of driving down the drain. At least, I haven't yet been
shot five times, dead by a USA Cop on live Facebook. Bright side of life...

Lying cops, lying women, lying lawyers, lying judges... It's all too beautiful...

One Policed Nation, Under God... welcome to America... born bored in the USA...

> Found this paper;
> 
> "A Method for Calculating Probability of Collision between Space Objects"
> 
> http://www.raa-journal.org/raa/index.php/raa/article/viewFile/1587/1442
> 
> what is interesting is that they have a compact equation, for 3D, which 
> can be easily extended into 4 dimentions.

Easily? Perhaps you are right SergioJi. I'm just not so confident.

I read this Thermodynamics book, in Russian, once. I couldn't understand a
word or sentence written in it. However, the equations made perfect sense!
Then I found this 1880s French book, it had/has wonderful 3D phase space objects.
Seriously, one opens the book and sees 3D objects from the drawings! Weird(y).

No, for the life of me, I now (2017) do not recall the titles/authors of the 2 books.

> But they are able to generate equations using the constraints of stuff 
> orbiting earth, space junk. BUT even that can be backed out, perhaps 
> backing out leaves one with nada, the general case.  And Im sure they 
> have  sizes of the objects in there somewhere.
> 
> basically P = Pr * Pt   [delta distance, and arrival time]

I play tennis, 3D collisions are backhanded great. Go Pla(y) RogerJi Federer!

> from the paper:
> 4 CONCLUSIONS
> The existing general method for calculating the probability of collision 
> provides sufficiently accurate results, but is not based on a direct 
> connection between the probability of collision, the geometry of the 
> encounter and the related error covariance.

What means this related error covariance?

> Based on the geometry of the encounter, a method is developed to compute 
> probability of collision. This method gives an explicit expression to 
> compute probability of collision which is expressed as a function of the 
> radial and the cross section components of the relative position and 
> error covariance.
> 
> The expression is compact and advantageous for directly analyzing the 
> factors that influence the probability of collision. A computer program 
> is developed to implement the technique, and the results of calculations 
> are compared with the general method, which show that this method is 
> applicable to most situations where assessing the risk of collision in a 
> near-circular orbit is required. Additionally, the method separates 
> orbit motions in the radial direction from those in the cross section. 
> Therefore, position errors and geometric sizes of the two components can 
> be handled differently to improve precision, especially for irregularly 
> shaped spacecrafts, such as shuttles with wings. Continuation of this 
> work is currently in progress.

A computer program?! Say it ain't so... btw, is there an iApp iPhone iAndroid version?

I may be wrong, but that paper reads like a fluff publication. Send Money!
I shouldn't be bitter, you say? Well I sure am not envious. Lying Rich Reptiles...

-- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८! 
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace. 

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#637408

On 6/20/2017 10:51 AM, Mahipal wrote:
> On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, Sегgi о wrote:
>> On 6/15/2017 6:14 PM, Mahipal wrote:
>>> On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 1:52:25 PM UTC-4, Sегgi о wrote:
> 
> <trim>
> 
>>>>> Think of it this way: Two four-dimensional objects walk into a bar...
>>>>
>>>> I know that feeling, I was in a bar, doing Ouzo shots, and got 4th
>>>> dimentional alright, not sure how I got outta there, some kind of
>>>> "multidimentional transference one cannot remember", betcha.
>>>
>>> I love Ouzo (Anise in Greek, Sonf in Hindi) shots, though I mostly drink Vodka.
>>>
>>>>> Some questions are best left open Open OPEN... this one Q has an exact answer.
>>>
>>> -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
>>> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.
>>
>> [Vodka and me parted ways long ago, no gin either, no mint schnapps either]
> 
> I really don't like gin. If I'm out of all other drinks, only then gin will do.
> 
> I started this thread, I feel obligated to respond. Talk about Weird(y)!
> 
> I got one DUI in my 56 years of living. Everybody now thinks I'm a failure!
> I apply for jobs, hey what's this DUI? Btw, you're also very old too. Get lost.
> It's not just a Reality Check, it's your Background Check. Welcome to BigData.

yup, dwi back in the old days 70's was temporary, went away, not much 
happened to you. But today! here it is breath device in your car 1 year, 
$2000 fine, the revoke your drivers license and give you a limited one, 
another fine of 1000 at drivers license place, and it dosen't go away.

> 
> That's 40 years of driving down the drain. At least, I haven't yet been
> shot five times, dead by a USA Cop on live Facebook. Bright side of life...
> 
> Lying cops, lying women, lying lawyers, lying judges... It's all too beautiful...
> 
> One Policed Nation, Under God... welcome to America... born bored in the USA...
> 
>> Found this paper;
>>
>> "A Method for Calculating Probability of Collision between Space Objects"
>>
>> http://www.raa-journal.org/raa/index.php/raa/article/viewFile/1587/1442
>>
>> what is interesting is that they have a compact equation, for 3D, which
>> can be easily extended into 4 dimentions.
> 
> Easily? Perhaps you are right SergioJi. I'm just not so confident.
> 
> I read this Thermodynamics book, in Russian, once. I couldn't understand a
> word or sentence written in it. However, the equations made perfect sense!
> Then I found this 1880s French book, it had/has wonderful 3D phase space objects.
> Seriously, one opens the book and sees 3D objects from the drawings! Weird(y).

interesting 1880s book, did you need spcial glasses?  I have some 3D 
pictures, (two pix side by side) actually on glass, with a viewer has 
two lenses from paris about 1890 - 1900, tourist souvineers

> 
> No, for the life of me, I now (2017) do not recall the titles/authors of the 2 books.
> 
>> But they are able to generate equations using the constraints of stuff
>> orbiting earth, space junk. BUT even that can be backed out, perhaps
>> backing out leaves one with nada, the general case.  And Im sure they
>> have  sizes of the objects in there somewhere.
>>
>> basically P = Pr * Pt   [delta distance, and arrival time]
> 
> I play tennis, 3D collisions are backhanded great. Go Pla(y) RogerJi Federer!
> 
>> from the paper:
>> 4 CONCLUSIONS
>> The existing general method for calculating the probability of collision
>> provides sufficiently accurate results, but is not based on a direct
>> connection between the probability of collision, the geometry of the
>> encounter and the related error covariance.
> 
> What means this related error covariance?
> 
>> Based on the geometry of the encounter, a method is developed to compute
>> probability of collision. This method gives an explicit expression to
>> compute probability of collision which is expressed as a function of the
>> radial and the cross section components of the relative position and
>> error covariance.
>>
>> The expression is compact and advantageous for directly analyzing the
>> factors that influence the probability of collision. A computer program
>> is developed to implement the technique, and the results of calculations
>> are compared with the general method, which show that this method is
>> applicable to most situations where assessing the risk of collision in a
>> near-circular orbit is required. Additionally, the method separates
>> orbit motions in the radial direction from those in the cross section.
>> Therefore, position errors and geometric sizes of the two components can
>> be handled differently to improve precision, especially for irregularly
>> shaped spacecrafts, such as shuttles with wings. Continuation of this
>> work is currently in progress.
> 
> A computer program?! Say it ain't so... btw, is there an iApp iPhone iAndroid version?
> 
> I may be wrong, but that paper reads like a fluff publication. Send Money!
> I shouldn't be bitter, you say? Well I sure am not envious. Lying Rich Reptiles...

think you are right, 'continue the research funding'  type of paper

your OK Mahipal, you add a different perspectives in this newsgroup, 
like adding in more color to the subject of things.

> 
> -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.
> 

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#637588

Long detailed realLife dicussion follows. Face it, life is real.
Many of you should just go off and TWEET yourselves! (TM, SM, and BMW).

On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 10:54:23 PM UTC-4, Sегgi о wrote:
> On 6/20/2017 10:51 AM, Mahipal wrote:
> > On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, Sегgi о wrote:
> >> On 6/15/2017 6:14 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 1:52:25 PM UTC-4, Sегgi о wrote:
> > 
> > <trim>
> > 
> >>>>> Think of it this way: Two four-dimensional objects walk into a bar...
> >>>>
> >>>> I know that feeling, I was in a bar, doing Ouzo shots, and got 4th
> >>>> dimentional alright, not sure how I got outta there, some kind of
> >>>> "multidimentional transference one cannot remember", betcha.
> >>>
> >>> I love Ouzo (Anise in Greek, Sonf in Hindi) shots, though I mostly drink Vodka.
> >>>
> >>>>> Some questions are best left open Open OPEN... this one Q has an exact answer.
> >>>
> >>> -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
> >>> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.
> >>
> >> [Vodka and me parted ways long ago, no gin either, no mint schnapps either]
> > 
> > I really don't like gin. If I'm out of all other drinks, only then gin will do.
> > 
> > I started this thread, I feel obligated to respond. Talk about Weird(y)!
> > 
> > I got one DUI in my 56 years of living. Everybody now thinks I'm a failure!
> > I apply for jobs, hey what's this DUI? Btw, you're also very old too. Get lost.
> > It's not just a Reality Check, it's your Background Check. Welcome to BigData.
> 
> yup, dwi back in the old days 70's was temporary, went away, not much 
> happened to you. But today! here it is breath device in your car 1 year, 
> $2000 fine, the revoke your drivers license and give you a limited one, 
> another fine of $1000 at drivers license place, and it dosen't go away.

I was only charged with the DUI, not convicted, still the employer brought it up. 
Within a week of being charged, the employer brought it up during my job interview.
Welcome to BigData! Did I mention that already?! Orwellian... it's now 2017, not 1984.

The bar I left before DUI, after sex(y) Bikini Contest, went out-of-business later.
Why out-of-business? Simple. All us regular patrons stopped visiting the bar.
There was a gang of cops outside the bar, which I sadly simply just did ignore.
I'm very certain those cops entrapped as many patrons as they could that night.
The bar's management could've just warned us patrons not to drive. SHUT DOWN.

Lying cops, lying women, lying lawyers, lying judges... I said that already...

Even in 70's it's no longer temporary. They've digitized all old files
and put them on their fancy Cloud Servers somewhere in India, China,
and/or... Russia. I used to work with a friend, who got a DUI in the
1980s. Then 25 years later, he gets a 2nd DUI. He said the judge
instantly brought up his DUI from 1980s! Now he always takes a taxi to
go out and hang with his friends at bars. Always. Safer Than Lawyers.

IMHO, it's a vast deep dark conspirac(y) by taxi drivers. Tax+I=TaxI?!

Fwiw, my friend is very white, whiter than an Indian Cow. He's managing. 
So I can't claim this is a RacismInUSA problem, despite having to watch
that 32 year old black dude get shot dead for some broken tail light by
the lying-chicken-shit-now-fired-cop. I'm police! Bang^5! There's a family
in the damn car you-fucking-lying-idiot-cop! Courts' JurySpeak: NO HARM DONE.

Don't worry... we've rebranded U using the letters of Their English Alpabet (TEA).
This Usenet post will self-destruct on/via Google with 3 seconds. MI Theme Music.

> > That's 40 years of driving down the drain. At least, I haven't yet been
> > shot five times, dead by a USA Cop on live Facebook. Bright side of life...
> > 
> > Lying cops, lying women, lying lawyers, lying judges... It's all too beautiful...
> > 
> > One Policed Nation, Under God... welcome to America... born bored in the USA...
> > 
> >> Found this paper;
> >>
> >> "A Method for Calculating Probability of Collision between Space Objects"
> >>
> >> http://www.raa-journal.org/raa/index.php/raa/article/viewFile/1587/1442
> >>
> >> what is interesting is that they have a compact equation, for 3D, which
> >> can be easily extended into 4 dimentions.
> > 
> > Easily? Perhaps you are right SergioJi. I'm just not so confident.
> > 
> > I read this Thermodynamics book, in Russian, once. I couldn't understand a
> > word or sentence written in it. However, the equations made perfect sense!
> > Then I found this 1880s French book, it had/has wonderful 3D phase space objects.
> > Seriously, one opens the book and sees 3D objects from the drawings! Weird(y).
> 
> interesting 1880s book, did you need spcial glasses?  I have some 3D 
> pictures, (two pix side by side) actually on glass, with a viewer has 
> two lenses from paris about 1890 - 1900, tourist souvineers

I'm fairly certain there no special glasses involved. The 3D objects
just floated above the pages. Very cool. I'm pretty sure no glasses
were involved. I checked out the book and showed it to my professor.
The objects were like {P, V, T}, {S, E, T}, etc. combination of TD variables.

> > No, for the life of me, I now (2017) do not recall the titles/authors of the 2 books.
> > 
> >> But they are able to generate equations using the constraints of stuff
> >> orbiting earth, space junk. BUT even that can be backed out, perhaps
> >> backing out leaves one with nada, the general case.  And Im sure they
> >> have  sizes of the objects in there somewhere.
> >>
> >> basically P = Pr * Pt   [delta distance, and arrival time]
> > 
> > I play tennis, 3D collisions are backhanded great. Go Pla(y) RogerJi Federer!
> > 
> >> from the paper:
> >> 4 CONCLUSIONS
> >> The existing general method for calculating the probability of collision
> >> provides sufficiently accurate results, but is not based on a direct
> >> connection between the probability of collision, the geometry of the
> >> encounter and the related error covariance.
> > 
> > What means this related error covariance?
> > 
> >> Based on the geometry of the encounter, a method is developed to compute
> >> probability of collision. This method gives an explicit expression to
> >> compute probability of collision which is expressed as a function of the
> >> radial and the cross section components of the relative position and
> >> error covariance.
> >>
> >> The expression is compact and advantageous for directly analyzing the
> >> factors that influence the probability of collision. A computer program
> >> is developed to implement the technique, and the results of calculations
> >> are compared with the general method, which show that this method is
> >> applicable to most situations where assessing the risk of collision in a
> >> near-circular orbit is required. Additionally, the method separates
> >> orbit motions in the radial direction from those in the cross section.
> >> Therefore, position errors and geometric sizes of the two components can
> >> be handled differently to improve precision, especially for irregularly
> >> shaped spacecrafts, such as shuttles with wings. Continuation of this
> >> work is currently in progress.
> > 
> > A computer program?! Say it ain't so... btw, is there an iApp iPhone iAndroid version?
> > 
> > I may be wrong, but that paper reads like a fluff publication. Send Money!
> > I shouldn't be bitter, you say? Well I sure am not envious. Lying Rich Reptiles...
> 
> think you are right, 'continue the research funding'  type of paper

Everyone's got to monetize! I just submitted my own 2nd app to iTunes. 
They're reviewing it now, calling it spam, because it's similar to the
first app I got published, Seenchi. I'm like, withdraw the first app
because players say it's too busy. Too many functions! KISS Principle.

Not surprisingly, other friends, in my age group, have suddenly lost their 
jobs in SW IT. I'm like: Welcome To The Club==Machine. PinkFloydIsmIshQ.
We're now combining our forces/skills to somehow make a decent living.

USA jobs are like this: Let's expel old people, our insurance bill vanishes.

> your OK Mahipal, you add a different perspectives in this newsgroup, 
> like adding in more color to the subject of things.

Thanks SergioJi! I eat right, exercise, play tennis, dream of better times...

-- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.

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#636581

Mahipal wrote:
> 
> Calculate the probability of any two four-dimensional objects colliding.
> You all do know what a collision is? Good for you! Now... go calculate.
> Assignment due by Friday, no class lasts forever. Chop chop! Run like the wind!
> Besides, if you submit by Friday, I'll have something to do over the Weekend.
> God knows the wife is a waste of time... but I digress... Vera? VERA?! Et tu?
> 
> I once had a life, or should I sing, life once had me... The BeatlesIsmIshQ.
> 
> -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!



what is a four-dimensional object?

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#636586

On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 7:52:52 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> Mahipal wrote:
> > 
> > Calculate the probability of any two four-dimensional objects colliding.
> > You all do know what a collision is? Good for you! Now... go calculate.
> > Assignment due by Friday, no class lasts forever. Chop chop! Run like the wind!
> > Besides, if you submit by Friday, I'll have something to do over the Weekend.
> > God knows the wife is a waste of time... but I digress... Vera? VERA?! Et tu?
> > 
> > I once had a life, or should I sing, life once had me... The BeatlesIsmIshQ.
> > 
> > -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
> 
> what is a four-dimensional object?

I'm very impressed by you Starmaker! Finally! I knew this day would in space
time come. Good Q! I had new names built up just for you, like StrawFruiter. 
Still, StrawFarter is a classic! StrawSucker is cute too. But I digress...

You StrawBalls are a four-dimensional object. Got mirror? You StrawSucker 
occupy a three dimensional space volume and walk through time. Ergo, 3D+Time=4D.

Why am I here? Why is here here, there, or anywhere?! Rhythm... free my soul...
I want you to know... I believe in your song... Wasting Time... Clap clap CLAP...
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=I+believe+in+your+song How good/great?

-- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८! 
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace. 

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#636613

Mahipal wrote:
> 
> On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 7:52:52 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Mahipal wrote:
> > >
> > > Calculate the probability of any two four-dimensional objects colliding.
> > > You all do know what a collision is? Good for you! Now... go calculate.
> > > Assignment due by Friday, no class lasts forever. Chop chop! Run like the wind!
> > > Besides, if you submit by Friday, I'll have something to do over the Weekend.
> > > God knows the wife is a waste of time... but I digress... Vera? VERA?! Et tu?
> > >
> > > I once had a life, or should I sing, life once had me... The BeatlesIsmIshQ.
> > >
> > > -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
> >
> > what is a four-dimensional object?
> 
> I'm very impressed by you Starmaker! Finally! I knew this day would in space
> time come. Good Q! I had new names built up just for you, like StrawFruiter.
> Still, StrawFarter is a classic! StrawSucker is cute too. But I digress...
> 
> You StrawBalls are a four-dimensional object. Got mirror? You StrawSucker
> occupy a three dimensional space volume and walk through time. Ergo, 3D+Time=4D.


If a 4D = 3D+Time...and a you call it a four-dimensional  "object"..


ob·ject
noun
noun: object; plural noun: objects
'äbjekt/

    1.
    a material thing that can be seen and touched.


Then you're saying in fact that Time is a material thing that can be seen and touched, is that correct?

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#636656

On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 1:55:00 AM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> Mahipal wrote:
> > 
> > On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 7:52:52 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Mahipal wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Calculate the probability of any two four-dimensional objects colliding.
> > > > You all do know what a collision is? Good for you! Now... go calculate.
> > > > Assignment due by Friday, no class lasts forever. Chop chop! Run like the wind!
> > > > Besides, if you submit by Friday, I'll have something to do over the Weekend.
> > > > God knows the wife is a waste of time... but I digress... Vera? VERA?! Et tu?
> > > >
> > > > I once had a life, or should I sing, life once had me... The BeatlesIsmIshQ.
> > > >
> > > > -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
> > >
> > > what is a four-dimensional object?
> > 
> > I'm very impressed by you Starmaker! Finally! I knew this day would in space
> > time come. Good Q! I had new names built up just for you, like StrawFruiter.
> > Still, StrawFarter is a classic! StrawSucker is cute too. But I digress...
> > 
> > You StrawBalls are a four-dimensional object. Got mirror? You StrawSucker
> > occupy a three dimensional space volume and walk through time. Ergo, 3D+Time=4D.
> 
> If a 4D = 3D+Time...and a you call it a four-dimensional  "object"..

I must admit, you SitaraMaker are a good sport regards your name's taunts. Well done!

> ob·ject
> noun
> noun: object; plural noun: objects
> 'äbjekt/
> 
>     1.
>     a material thing that can be seen and touched.

We/Us/They Physicists have a propensity to abuse the English Words. You're welcome!

You remember M*A*S*H? Hawke(y)e? He did inspire me to drink, btw. He had space 
to take only one book with him to the war. Hawkeye chose to take The Dictionary. 
Why it? Sir HawkeyeJi figured all the other books were already in there! Drunk!

> Then you're saying in fact that Time is a material thing that can be
> seen and touched, is that correct?

Try not to dwell on individual words too much, Starmaker. For many reasons. 
One being, ever memorize a Sanskrit/German/Chinese/Russian/... dictionary?

Time is a dimension. It impacts us all. Time touches us all. So yes, correct.

They say Time Is Money. Well, Mangos Are Money. Are Mangos then Time?!
In Hindi, Wakt==Waqt==Time==Tujh Ko Chalna Hoga==You Will Have to Move On...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfAVUOvip9g Safar A Journe(y) DanSingħ...
The river it moves, its shores do too, the moon the stars==Sitaras too, so must you...

You can't really see this in a book, do watch TimeLapsed Planet Earth HDTV shows.
No, you yourself need not move in slow/fast motion... watch the flowers blossom...

-- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८! 
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace. 

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#636678

Mahipal wrote:
> 
> On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 1:55:00 AM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Mahipal wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 7:52:52 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > Mahipal wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Calculate the probability of any two four-dimensional objects colliding.
> > > > > You all do know what a collision is? Good for you! Now... go calculate.
> > > > > Assignment due by Friday, no class lasts forever. Chop chop! Run like the wind!
> > > > > Besides, if you submit by Friday, I'll have something to do over the Weekend.
> > > > > God knows the wife is a waste of time... but I digress... Vera? VERA?! Et tu?
> > > > >
> > > > > I once had a life, or should I sing, life once had me... The BeatlesIsmIshQ.
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
> > > >
> > > > what is a four-dimensional object?
> > >
> > > I'm very impressed by you Starmaker! Finally! I knew this day would in space
> > > time come. Good Q! I had new names built up just for you, like StrawFruiter.
> > > Still, StrawFarter is a classic! StrawSucker is cute too. But I digress...
> > >
> > > You StrawBalls are a four-dimensional object. Got mirror? You StrawSucker
> > > occupy a three dimensional space volume and walk through time. Ergo, 3D+Time=4D.
> >
> > If a 4D = 3D+Time...and a you call it a four-dimensional  "object"..
> 
> I must admit, you SitaraMaker are a good sport regards your name's taunts. Well done!
> 
> > ob·ject
> > noun
> > noun: object; plural noun: objects
> > 'äbjekt/
> >
> >     1.
> >     a material thing that can be seen and touched.
> 
> We/Us/They Physicists have a propensity to abuse the English Words. You're welcome!
> 
> You remember M*A*S*H? Hawke(y)e? He did inspire me to drink, btw. He had space
> to take only one book with him to the war. Hawkeye chose to take The Dictionary.
> Why it? Sir HawkeyeJi figured all the other books were already in there! Drunk!
> 
> > Then you're saying in fact that Time is a material thing that can be
> > seen and touched, is that correct?
> 
> Try not to dwell on individual words too much, Starmaker. For many reasons.
> One being, ever memorize a Sanskrit/German/Chinese/Russian/... dictionary?
> 
> Time is a dimension. It impacts us all. Time touches us all. So yes, correct.
> 
> They say Time Is Money. Well, Mangos Are Money. Are Mangos then Time?!
> In Hindi, Wakt==Waqt==Time==Tujh Ko Chalna Hoga==You Will Have to Move On...
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfAVUOvip9g Safar A Journe(y) DanSingħ...
> The river it moves, its shores do too, the moon the stars==Sitaras too, so must you...
> 
> You can't really see this in a book, do watch TimeLapsed Planet Earth HDTV shows.
> No, you yourself need not move in slow/fast motion... watch the flowers blossom...
> 
> -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.


your turburn is on too tight.

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#636688

On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 4:32:26 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
<trim>

> your turburn is on too tight.

Ok... not exactly what I expected. But so be it. I wear no turban.

Do you have any turban wearing friends, RacistStrawShitter? Name one. 

Do you even know what colour my turban is? Btw, I have more than one.

I suppose you lost interest in the topic. Your choice. Take care.

-- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८! 
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace. 

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#636696

On 6/16/2017 5:47 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 4:32:26 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> <trim>
> 
>> your turburn is on too tight.
> 
> Ok... not exactly what I expected. But so be it. I wear no turban.
> 
> Do you have any turban wearing friends, RacistStrawShitter? Name one.
> 
> Do you even know what colour my turban is? Btw, I have more than one.
> 
> I suppose you lost interest in the topic. Your choice. Take care.

Benj, bounces in seat waving raised hand frantically! Me! Me! Me! call 
on Me!

(noting "immigrant spelling" of "color"! Hey, don't you know the Brits 
TRIED to ruin this country and DID ruin India. Looper you better learn 
to spell like a merkin or we'll ship you to the Trump White House to be 
an intern. You DO remember what happened to the last intern that Clinton 
got, right?)

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#636735

On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 8:33:01 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
> On 6/16/2017 5:47 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> > On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 4:32:26 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > <trim>
> > 
> >> your turburn is on too tight.
> > 
> > Ok... not exactly what I expected. But so be it. I wear no turban.
> > 
> > Do you have any turban wearing friends, RacistStrawShitter? Name one.
> > 
> > Do you even know what colour my turban is? Btw, I have more than one.
> > 
> > I suppose you lost interest in the topic. Your choice. Take care.
> 
> Benj, bounces in seat waving raised hand frantically! Me! Me! Me! call 
> on Me!

Look who finally showed up for class! Drummer Sir BenjJi! Speak away...

> (noting "immigrant spelling" of "color"! Hey, don't you know the Brits 
> TRIED to ruin this country and DID ruin India. Looper you better learn 
> to spell like a merkin or we'll ship you to the Trump White House to be 
> an intern. You DO remember what happened to the last intern that Clinton 
> got, right?)

I thought the Russians were now and again trying to ruin this country? RT News.

Immigrant Song or In the days of my youth... Led Zeppelin... Good Times Bad Times...

The one with the semened blue dress she couldn't afford to swallow? Monica...
Bill: Is means Is. Sometimes Is means Yes. At times Is means No. Just suck...

Bill: In hindsight, she is so fat Fat FAT. SuckYouBusted! Worst date ever! Vodka?

Colour. I grew up in Delhi, I have a preference for the British English Language.
I love Benny Hill, Yes Prime Minister, Douglas Adams, Beatles, Queen, Moody Blues,
Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, The Who, 1984, ShakesHisSpeare, Turing, Sir Issac Newton, 
Charles Darwin, David Attenborough, Roger Moore, Sean Connery, Wimbledon, etc. ...

It's possible I overreacted to StrawSuckers' one-liner. But not likely.
I give/gave him a long-winded decent answer, and he's focused on my tight
turban fashion sense. C'mon?! Here's a recent exchange between him and I...

\begin{Exchange On Saturday, June 3, 2017} 
StrawSucker: There is a difference between the definition of a
scientist, and YOUR definition of a scientist.

StrawSucker: But with a name like Mahipal, I don't expect you to
understand the inglish language...Do you speak ...7-11?????

Mahipal: My nickname is Paul. Roots? Mahipal... Maple... M(y) Pal... Paul. Call me Roger.

Mahipal: So silly, and quick to the race card, and you did it in inglish, StrawFaker!
One should get a real name of their own before mocking others with real names.

Mahipal: 7-11? Is that like two blocks from 9/11? WTC7? You watch too much Simpsons.
\end{Exchange On Saturday, June 3, 2017}

Past is predicate. Still, I was being, even for me, very polite, regardless.
Sad but true, Racisim in USA definitely still exists. Watch today's headlines.

-- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८! 
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace. 

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#636747

Mahipal wrote:
> 
> On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 4:32:26 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> <trim>
> 
> > your turburn is on too tight.
> 
> Ok... not exactly what I expected. But so be it. I wear no turban.
> 
> Do you have any turban wearing friends, RacistStrawShitter? Name one.
> 
> Do you even know what colour my turban is? Btw, I have more than one.
> 
> I suppose you lost interest in the topic. Your choice. Take care.
> 
> -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.


maybe your sandels are on too tight..


do you play a ...zitar?


One does not walk through time.

One walks with time.

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#636854

On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 1:44:18 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> Mahipal wrote:
> > 
> > On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 4:32:26 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > <trim>
> > 
> > > your turburn is on too tight.
> > 
> > Ok... not exactly what I expected. But so be it. I wear no turban.
> > 
> > Do you have any turban wearing friends, RacistStrawShitter? Name one.
> > 
> > Do you even know what colour my turban is? Btw, I have more than one.
> > 
> > I suppose you lost interest in the topic. Your choice. Take care.
> > 
> > -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
> > Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.
> 
> maybe your sandels are on too tight..

Me m(y) standards are too high! O wait... your accent is thick, through my turban.

I don't wear sandels. I hate sandels. Flip/Flop. I'd rather be barefoot.
Perhaps you ought not focus too much on my wardrobe. I've already admitted
to dressing like GandhiJi, just check recent surveillance tapes in DC and NYC.

> do you play a ...zitar?

Sitar, not zitar. Sadly, no. But... Ziggy played guitar -- David Bowie.
I have tried playing actual bamboo flutes. I'm not very good at it.

> One does not walk through time.

Not only walk, one can just sit through time. Not a Buddhist you. Aum...

> One walks with time.

Look Starmaker, I apologize if I was defensive/rude/mean. Very sorry, I am.
Get lost now. Take care. Work out your own issues with English Dictionaries.
I'll spend/waste my limited time wading through Sanskrit words, as a hobb(y)... 

-- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८! 
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace. 

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#636871

Mahipal wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 1:44:18 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Mahipal wrote:
> > >
> > > On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 4:32:26 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > <trim>
> > >
> > > > your turburn is on too tight.
> > >
> > > Ok... not exactly what I expected. But so be it. I wear no turban.
> > >
> > > Do you have any turban wearing friends, RacistStrawShitter? Name one.
> > >
> > > Do you even know what colour my turban is? Btw, I have more than one.
> > >
> > > I suppose you lost interest in the topic. Your choice. Take care.
> > >
> > > -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
> > > Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.
> >
> > maybe your sandels are on too tight..
> 
> Me m(y) standards are too high! O wait... your accent is thick, through my turban.
> 
> I don't wear sandels. I hate sandels. Flip/Flop. I'd rather be barefoot.
> Perhaps you ought not focus too much on my wardrobe. I've already admitted
> to dressing like GandhiJi, just check recent surveillance tapes in DC and NYC.
> 
> > do you play a ...zitar?
> 
> Sitar, not zitar. Sadly, no. But... Ziggy played guitar -- David Bowie.
> I have tried playing actual bamboo flutes. I'm not very good at it.
> 
> > One does not walk through time.
> 
> Not only walk, one can just sit through time. Not a Buddhist you. Aum...
> 
> > One walks with time.
> 
> Look Starmaker, I apologize if I was defensive/rude/mean. Very sorry, I am.
> Get lost now. Take care. Work out your own issues with English Dictionaries.
> I'll spend/waste my limited time wading through Sanskrit words, as a hobb(y)...


Is water an object?

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