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Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had...

From Sегgi о <iinvalid@invalid.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had...
Date 2017-06-22 21:54 -0500
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On 6/20/2017 10:51 AM, Mahipal wrote:
> On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-4, Sегgi о wrote:
>> On 6/15/2017 6:14 PM, Mahipal wrote:
>>> On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 1:52:25 PM UTC-4, Sегgi о wrote:
> 
> <trim>
> 
>>>>> Think of it this way: Two four-dimensional objects walk into a bar...
>>>>
>>>> I know that feeling, I was in a bar, doing Ouzo shots, and got 4th
>>>> dimentional alright, not sure how I got outta there, some kind of
>>>> "multidimentional transference one cannot remember", betcha.
>>>
>>> I love Ouzo (Anise in Greek, Sonf in Hindi) shots, though I mostly drink Vodka.
>>>
>>>>> Some questions are best left open Open OPEN... this one Q has an exact answer.
>>>
>>> -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
>>> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.
>>
>> [Vodka and me parted ways long ago, no gin either, no mint schnapps either]
> 
> I really don't like gin. If I'm out of all other drinks, only then gin will do.
> 
> I started this thread, I feel obligated to respond. Talk about Weird(y)!
> 
> I got one DUI in my 56 years of living. Everybody now thinks I'm a failure!
> I apply for jobs, hey what's this DUI? Btw, you're also very old too. Get lost.
> It's not just a Reality Check, it's your Background Check. Welcome to BigData.

yup, dwi back in the old days 70's was temporary, went away, not much 
happened to you. But today! here it is breath device in your car 1 year, 
$2000 fine, the revoke your drivers license and give you a limited one, 
another fine of 1000 at drivers license place, and it dosen't go away.

> 
> That's 40 years of driving down the drain. At least, I haven't yet been
> shot five times, dead by a USA Cop on live Facebook. Bright side of life...
> 
> Lying cops, lying women, lying lawyers, lying judges... It's all too beautiful...
> 
> One Policed Nation, Under God... welcome to America... born bored in the USA...
> 
>> Found this paper;
>>
>> "A Method for Calculating Probability of Collision between Space Objects"
>>
>> http://www.raa-journal.org/raa/index.php/raa/article/viewFile/1587/1442
>>
>> what is interesting is that they have a compact equation, for 3D, which
>> can be easily extended into 4 dimentions.
> 
> Easily? Perhaps you are right SergioJi. I'm just not so confident.
> 
> I read this Thermodynamics book, in Russian, once. I couldn't understand a
> word or sentence written in it. However, the equations made perfect sense!
> Then I found this 1880s French book, it had/has wonderful 3D phase space objects.
> Seriously, one opens the book and sees 3D objects from the drawings! Weird(y).

interesting 1880s book, did you need spcial glasses?  I have some 3D 
pictures, (two pix side by side) actually on glass, with a viewer has 
two lenses from paris about 1890 - 1900, tourist souvineers

> 
> No, for the life of me, I now (2017) do not recall the titles/authors of the 2 books.
> 
>> But they are able to generate equations using the constraints of stuff
>> orbiting earth, space junk. BUT even that can be backed out, perhaps
>> backing out leaves one with nada, the general case.  And Im sure they
>> have  sizes of the objects in there somewhere.
>>
>> basically P = Pr * Pt   [delta distance, and arrival time]
> 
> I play tennis, 3D collisions are backhanded great. Go Pla(y) RogerJi Federer!
> 
>> from the paper:
>> 4 CONCLUSIONS
>> The existing general method for calculating the probability of collision
>> provides sufficiently accurate results, but is not based on a direct
>> connection between the probability of collision, the geometry of the
>> encounter and the related error covariance.
> 
> What means this related error covariance?
> 
>> Based on the geometry of the encounter, a method is developed to compute
>> probability of collision. This method gives an explicit expression to
>> compute probability of collision which is expressed as a function of the
>> radial and the cross section components of the relative position and
>> error covariance.
>>
>> The expression is compact and advantageous for directly analyzing the
>> factors that influence the probability of collision. A computer program
>> is developed to implement the technique, and the results of calculations
>> are compared with the general method, which show that this method is
>> applicable to most situations where assessing the risk of collision in a
>> near-circular orbit is required. Additionally, the method separates
>> orbit motions in the radial direction from those in the cross section.
>> Therefore, position errors and geometric sizes of the two components can
>> be handled differently to improve precision, especially for irregularly
>> shaped spacecrafts, such as shuttles with wings. Continuation of this
>> work is currently in progress.
> 
> A computer program?! Say it ain't so... btw, is there an iApp iPhone iAndroid version?
> 
> I may be wrong, but that paper reads like a fluff publication. Send Money!
> I shouldn't be bitter, you say? Well I sure am not envious. Lying Rich Reptiles...

think you are right, 'continue the research funding'  type of paper

your OK Mahipal, you add a different perspectives in this newsgroup, 
like adding in more color to the subject of things.

> 
> -- Mahipal == माहिपाल "My Pal" or "Maple" Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. IPMM ७६३८!
> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.
> 

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Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 06:38 -0700
  Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Sегgi о <iinvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-15 08:57 -0500
    Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 07:41 -0700
      Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Sегgi о <iinvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-15 12:52 -0500
        Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 16:14 -0700
          Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Sегgi о <iinvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-16 13:16 -0500
            Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 08:51 -0700
              Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Sегgi о <iinvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-22 21:54 -0500
                Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-24 15:28 -0700
  Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-15 16:53 -0700
    Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 17:31 -0700
      Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-15 22:54 -0700
        Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 10:23 -0700
          Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-16 13:32 -0700
            Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 14:47 -0700
              Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-16 20:32 -0400
                Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-17 08:22 -0700
              Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-17 10:44 -0700
                Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-18 11:52 -0700
                Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-18 13:58 -0700
                Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-06-18 14:09 -0700
                Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-18 15:22 -0700
                Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-18 16:31 -0700
                Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 05:26 -0700
  Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... "nuny@bid.nes" <alien8752@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 00:59 -0700
    Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 10:46 -0700
      Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... "nuny@bid.nes" <alien8752@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 14:51 -0700
        Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 17:45 -0700
  Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-06-22 18:40 +1000
    Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-22 09:31 -0700
      Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-23 06:38 -0700
        Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-23 10:25 -0700
          Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-23 16:38 -0700
            Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-24 11:23 -0700
              Re: Physics Homework Assignment, I Once Had... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-06-24 12:57 -0700

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