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Without Einstein, there would be no atomic bomb

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  Without Einstein, there would be no atomic bomb The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-11 00:29 -0800
    Re: Without Einstein, there would be no atomic bomb Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2016-12-11 09:56 +0100
      Re: Without Einstein, there would be no atomic bomb Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-11 07:20 -0800
    Re: Without Einstein, there would be no atomic bomb SteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net> - 2016-12-11 08:07 -0500
      Re: Without Einstein, there would be no atomic bomb Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-11 09:58 -0600
        Re: Without Einstein, there would be no atomic bomb "Mike Dworetsky" <platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> - 2016-12-11 17:10 +0000
          Re: Without Einstein, there would be no atomic bomb Estrella Batey <yeaetl@sryeaet.org> - 2016-12-11 19:11 +0000
        Re: Without Einstein, there would be no atomic bomb "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-12-11 10:58 -0800
          Re: Without Einstein, there would be no atomic bomb Estrella Batey <yeaetl@sryeaet.org> - 2016-12-11 19:22 +0000
          Re: Without Einstein, there would be no atomic bomb benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-12-12 18:19 -0500
            Re: Without Einstein, there would be no atomic bomb "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-12-12 17:52 -0800
      Re: Without Einstein, there would be no atomic bomb moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-11 16:26 +0000
        Re: Without Einstein, there would be no atomic bomb Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-12-11 17:52 +0100
      Re: Without Einstein, there would be no atomic bomb je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-12-11 09:07 -0800
        Re: Without Einstein, there would be no atomic bomb The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-11 11:55 -0800
    Re: Without Einstein, there would be no atomic bomb "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-12-11 10:39 -0800
      Re: Without Einstein, there would be no atomic bomb "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-12-11 11:03 -0800
      Re: Without Einstein, there would be no atomic bomb Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-12-12 12:45 -0800
        Re: Without Einstein, there would be no atomic bomb Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-12-12 22:35 +0100
          Re: Without Einstein, there would be no atomic bomb Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-12-13 11:59 -0800
            Re: Without Einstein, there would be no atomic bomb Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-12-14 07:40 +0100
        Re: Without Einstein, there would be no atomic bomb "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-12-12 13:54 -0800
    Re: Without Einstein, there would be no atomic bomb lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-11 14:01 -0800

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#608603 — Without Einstein, there would be no atomic bomb

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-12-11 00:29 -0800
SubjectWithout Einstein, there would be no atomic bomb
Message-ID<584D0E81.DCA@ix.netcom.com>
I know 
this is 
very differcult 
for you people 
to understand...

Without Albert Einstein
there would be no atomic bombs
or nuclear bombs in existence
today.

No E=mc2, no atomic bombs.

I know 
this is 
very differcult 
for you people 
to understand...
because you don't
understand how
the world works
and how the 
direction of
the future is
created.

No Einstein
No E=mc2
No atomic bombs.


so nevermind...

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#608604

FromHelmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat>
Date2016-12-11 09:56 +0100
Message-ID<525q4ct5l7bp2df90s14u7ct524h83ub1s@4ax.com>
In reply to#608603
On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 00:29:53 -0800, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>I know 
>this is 
>very differcult 
>for you people 
>to understand...
>
>Without Albert Einstein
>there would be no atomic bombs
>or nuclear bombs in existence
>today.
>
>No E=mc2, no atomic bombs.
>
>I know 
>this is 
>very differcult 
>for you people 
>to understand...
>because you don't
>understand how
>the world works
>and how the 
>direction of
>the future is
>created.
>
>No Einstein
>No E=mc2
>No atomic bombs.
>
>
>so nevermind...

You are in contradiction with all the other
anti-einsteinians, who say e=mcc was already known
before E. was even born and that he only stole it.
so nevermind...

w.

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#608611

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-11 07:20 -0800
Message-ID<aa908555-d085-49d5-8476-2bfc62f49ad4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#608604
On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 3:56:08 AM UTC-5, Helmut Wabnig wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 00:29:53 -0800, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> >I know 
> >this is 
> >very differcult 
> >for you people 
> >to understand...
> >
> >Without Albert Einstein
> >there would be no atomic bombs
> >or nuclear bombs in existence
> >today.

No Moon, no Earth, no Sun, no Stars... either?! Thanks OneStone!

> >No E=mc2, no atomic bombs.
> >
> >I know 
> >this is 
> >very differcult 
> >for you people 
> >to understand...

You got ESP? StrawFarter, how stupid do you presume all others to be?

> >because you don't
> >understand how
> >the world works
> >and how the 
> >direction of
> >the future is
> >created.

Got links or any explanations of your own then, StarGasser?

> >No Einstein
> >No E=mc2
> >No atomic bombs.
> >
> >so nevermind...

Hey StoryFaker, what name does your mother call you?

> You are in contradiction with all the other
> anti-einsteinians, who say e=mcc was already known
> before E. was even born and that he only stole it.
> so nevermind...
> 
> w.

It's not anti-einsteinian to know the actual complete physics' history.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=e%3Dmcc+inventor+italian
About only a mere insignificant 6,140 results (1.06 seconds). Hmmm... 

\begin{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olinto_De_Pretto}
Olinto De Pretto (26 April 1857 – 16 March 1921) was an Italian
industrialist and geologist from Schio, Vicenza. There are claims[1]
that De Pretto may have been the first person to derive the
energy–mass-equivalence E = m c 2 E=mc^{2}, generally attributed to
Albert Einstein. He suggested that radioactive decay of uranium and
thorium was an example of mass transforming into energy.
\end{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olinto_De_Pretto}

Very probably, Albert Einstein is to Physics what Forrest Gump was to
...youKnow. It's all Fake fake FAKE. Run Forrest Run! Elvis sighting. 
Ping Pong Diplomacy. Basically, like Forrest, Albert is assigned undue
credit for everything. The movie provides the blueprint on how revisionists
The(y)TheThem plagiarize and is very painful to watch even once. FUD.

Lesson? So, sure, Albert Einstein discovered E=mcc... in THE LITERATURE!

Vis viva (from the Latin for "living force") is a historical term...
Theory was proposed by Gottfried Leibniz over the period 1676–1689...

-- Mahipal, pronounced "My Pal" or "Maple"... as in Loops, Syrup, Wood. 

                          /\  "If the line between science fiction and 
                            /   science fact doesn't drive you crazy, 
 /\                         \   then you're just not tr(y)ing!" 
 \           /\/\  /  \   \/                    Mahipal Virdy 
 /   ==    \  /  \/\/                         The |meforce> Paradox 
 \/                            http://mahipal7638.files.wordpress.com/ 

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#608607

FromSteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net>
Date2016-12-11 08:07 -0500
Message-ID<4gjq4cld5qoa0a1jcdm42iukr6jq5ka7oe@4ax.com>
In reply to#608603
With all the ongoing advances in science and theoretical physics, e.g.
particle accelrators and colliders, ejectronics, there is little doubt
that essentially all of E's stuff would have been way realized by now.

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#608613

FromTom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net>
Date2016-12-11 09:58 -0600
Message-ID<16ydnafoCawU6tDFnZ2dnUU7_8zNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#608607
On 12/11/16 12/11/16   7:07 AM, SteveGG wrote:
> With all the ongoing advances in science and theoretical physics, e.g.
> particle accelrators and colliders, ejectronics, there is little doubt
> that essentially all of E's stuff would have been way realized by now.

You put the cart before the horse. Without Einstein, or someone else discovering 
the same theories, much of modern technology would be impossible. Remember his 
Nobel Prize was for his explanation of the photoelectric effect, not for 
relativity. Einstein was INSTRUMENTAL in the foundations of quantum mechanics, 
and of course relativity, BOTH of them were needed to develop the technologies 
you mention.

Tom Roberts

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#608620

From"Mike Dworetsky" <platinum198@pants.btinternet.com>
Date2016-12-11 17:10 +0000
Message-ID<DbednRTA47QtFdDFnZ2dnUU78dfNnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#608613
Tom Roberts wrote:
> On 12/11/16 12/11/16   7:07 AM, SteveGG wrote:
>> With all the ongoing advances in science and theoretical physics,
>> e.g. particle accelrators and colliders, ejectronics, there is
>> little doubt that essentially all of E's stuff would have been way
>> realized by now.
>
> You put the cart before the horse. Without Einstein, or someone else
> discovering the same theories, much of modern technology would be
> impossible. Remember his Nobel Prize was for his explanation of the
> photoelectric effect, not for relativity. Einstein was INSTRUMENTAL
> in the foundations of quantum mechanics, and of course relativity,
> BOTH of them were needed to develop the technologies you mention.
>
> Tom Roberts

Einstein developed four theories that could have won Nobel Prizes: the 
photoelectric effect, special relativity, general relativity, and (in my 
opinion) stimulated emission of atomic radiation (Einstein A and B 
coefficients).  At the time of his award for the explanation of the 
photoelectric effect, relativity was still highly controversial among the 
older generation of physicists, and there was a darker streak of 
antisemitism in this as well.  Although relativity was his best known 
contribution, it was probably agreed that an award for the photoelectric 
effect would be uncontroversial.

-- 
Mike Dworetsky

(Remove pants sp*mbl*ck to reply) 

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#608634

FromEstrella Batey <yeaetl@sryeaet.org>
Date2016-12-11 19:11 +0000
Message-ID<o2k8dn$gsk$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#608620
Mike Dworetsky wrote:

> Einstein developed four theories that could have won Nobel Prizes: the
> photoelectric effect, 

aHmmm?? I understood he just made it obvious, whatever he made obvious. 
Not "developed". Since it was sitting there already developed.

> special relativity, 

I smell a rat here also. He made it obvious here as well.

> general relativity, 

good friends

> and (in my
> opinion) stimulated emission of atomic radiation (Einstein A and B

Tell me more about it.

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#608629

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2016-12-11 10:58 -0800
Message-ID<o2k7ja$et3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#608613
"Tom Roberts" Einstein Dingleberry <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>  Without Einstein, or someone else discovering the same theories, 
>
hanson wrote:
Theories are NOT discovered. Theories are made up, conjured up
models, brain farts and models of how reality SHOULD be in the
mind of story tellers, who fashion to call and label themselves as
Theoretical Physicists.... ahahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA.... 
>
"someone else discovered the same theories"...yes very much so
and long before AE plagiarized them, from Max Planck, Pretto,
Hasenoehrl, Mosengeil and a slew of others... Check it out, TJ.
>
TJ start accepting the fact that the German Zionist Diaspora Jew
Return Movement was in high gear early 1900'a. They needed 
a posterboy, which they found in Einstein who agreed with them 
to be put into the limelight & get fame.
Einstein paid them back by him going on a world tour for them,
in 1921, to promote Zionism.... 

SR/GR are political tools, without any sci/tech value! ...  DUH!
>
ED-TJ wrote:
much of modern technology would be impossible. Einstein was
INSTRUMENTAL in the foundations of quantum mechanics, 
and of course relativity, BOTH of them were needed to develop
the technologies.
> 
hanson wrote:
...  which one?.. NOT even a single one!.. None, nada, zero!
___ All technology is trial & error driven____  Duh!
>
ED-TJ wrote
Remember his Nobel Prize was for his explanation of 
the photoelectric effect, not for relativity.
>
hanson wrote:
... and there, down the drain, goes ED-TJ's promulgation
of  relativity, which Einstein himself already denied & 
recanted 60+ years ago (and wanted to be a plumber) 
<http://tinyurl.com/Einstein-denied-his-SR-and-GR>
who concluded that: _ SR is short for STUPID RANT __
& _ GR being nothing but a GULLIBLE RANT_.... LOL
>
... and the PhotEl effect was discovered in 1887 by 
the German physicist Heinrich Rudolf Hertz, not by
Einstein. AE stole & plagiarized that one too, Duh!
>
ED-TJ wrote
> Tom Roberts, Enstein Dingleberry, 
> ... during his worship of Albert's Sphincter
>
Virdy Mahipal" mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote (in part):
Albert Einstein discovered E=mcc... in THE LITERATURE!
Albert Einstein explained the PEe... from THE LITERATURE
>
Albert Einstein is to Physics what Forrest Gump was in the 
movie that pr vides the blueprint on how revisionists plagiarize.
>
The Zionists assigned Albert undue credit for everything, incl.
AE's blatant Plagiarism, which was so bad that AE publicly
apologized for the theft of intellectual property in 1907, which
was insisted on by Mileva Maric, the Xtian wife of wife-beater AE
who was arrested in 1906 twice for wifebeating with 31'200 hit
on Google... 
>
Hey, Robert's,..  are you a wifebeater too that you feel such
empathy and understanding for your fellow wife-beater?
>
Thanks for the laughs, TJ, and watch now all your fellow ED's
jump up & down, full of hatred & anger .....ahahahahahanson
>
  


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#608640

FromEstrella Batey <yeaetl@sryeaet.org>
Date2016-12-11 19:22 +0000
Message-ID<o2k915$ht7$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#608629
hanson wrote:

> was insisted on by Mileva Maric, the Xtian wife of wife-beater AE who
> was arrested in 1906 twice for wifebeating with 31'200 hit on Google...

This obviously is incorrect. You can't beat your wife just like that. You 
have to have a good reason.

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#608806

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2016-12-12 18:19 -0500
Message-ID<584f3075$0$43033$b1db1813$19ace300@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#608629
On 12/11/2016 1:58 PM, hanson wrote:
> "Tom Roberts" Einstein Dingleberry <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>  Without Einstein, or someone else discovering the same theories,
> hanson wrote:
> Theories are NOT discovered. Theories are made up, conjured up
> models, brain farts and models of how reality SHOULD be in the
> mind of story tellers, who fashion to call and label themselves as
> Theoretical Physicists.... ahahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA....
>>
> "someone else discovered the same theories"...yes very much so
> and long before AE plagiarized them, from Max Planck, Pretto,
> Hasenoehrl, Mosengeil and a slew of others... Check it out, TJ.
>>
> TJ start accepting the fact that the German Zionist Diaspora Jew
> Return Movement was in high gear early 1900'a. They needed a posterboy,
> which they found in Einstein who agreed with them to be put into the
> limelight & get fame.
> Einstein paid them back by him going on a world tour for them,
> in 1921, to promote Zionism....
> SR/GR are political tools, without any sci/tech value! ...  DUH!
>>
> ED-TJ wrote:
> much of modern technology would be impossible. Einstein was
> INSTRUMENTAL in the foundations of quantum mechanics, and of course
> relativity, BOTH of them were needed to develop
> the technologies.
>>
> hanson wrote:
> ...  which one?.. NOT even a single one!.. None, nada, zero!
> ___ All technology is trial & error driven____  Duh!
>>
> ED-TJ wrote
> Remember his Nobel Prize was for his explanation of the photoelectric
> effect, not for relativity.
>>
> hanson wrote:
> ... and there, down the drain, goes ED-TJ's promulgation
> of  relativity, which Einstein himself already denied & recanted 60+
> years ago (and wanted to be a plumber)
> <http://tinyurl.com/Einstein-denied-his-SR-and-GR>
> who concluded that: _ SR is short for STUPID RANT __
> & _ GR being nothing but a GULLIBLE RANT_.... LOL
>>
> ... and the PhotEl effect was discovered in 1887 by the German physicist
> Heinrich Rudolf Hertz, not by
> Einstein. AE stole & plagiarized that one too, Duh!
>>
> ED-TJ wrote
>> Tom Roberts, Enstein Dingleberry, ... during his worship of Albert's
>> Sphincter
>>
> Virdy Mahipal" mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote (in part):
> Albert Einstein discovered E=mcc... in THE LITERATURE!
> Albert Einstein explained the PEe... from THE LITERATURE
>>
> Albert Einstein is to Physics what Forrest Gump was in the movie that pr
> vides the blueprint on how revisionists plagiarize.
>>
> The Zionists assigned Albert undue credit for everything, incl.
> AE's blatant Plagiarism, which was so bad that AE publicly
> apologized for the theft of intellectual property in 1907, which
> was insisted on by Mileva Maric, the Xtian wife of wife-beater AE
> who was arrested in 1906 twice for wifebeating with 31'200 hit
> on Google...
>>
> Hey, Robert's,..  are you a wifebeater too that you feel such
> empathy and understanding for your fellow wife-beater?
>>
> Thanks for the laughs, TJ, and watch now all your fellow ED's
> jump up & down, full of hatred & anger .....ahahahahahanson

Hanson is obviously a major bigot and nutjob, but that is no reason to 
ignore what he is saying. Hanon KNOWS SOMETHING!

People like to say relativity is wrong and Einstein was a plagiarist. 
Nonsense on both counts. True story is Relativity is not wrong. And 
furthermore Relativity was proposed first by Galileo for mechanical 
actions.  By Einstein's time the big question was did relativity also 
apply to light and electromagnetics. There was accumulating evidence at 
that time that this was true. So in effect, Einstein wrote a review 
paper gathering all the evidence and ideas together. That is hardly 
plagiarism. On the other hand, one does not usually get a Nobel prize 
for papers published in "reviews of modern physics" does one?

As for all the Jewish media Hype of Einstein being the greatest 
intellect the cosmos has ever seen (Just read his biography if you doubt 
these claims have been made) is obviously something political at it's 
core. Hanson probably has nailed it.

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#608835

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2016-12-12 17:52 -0800
Message-ID<o2nk68$646$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#608806
"benj" Jacoby <benj@nobody.net>   the Yiddish Apostate wote:
>
> hanson wrote:
"Tom Roberts" Einstein Dingleberry <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>  Without Einstein, or someone else discovering the same theories, 
>
hanson wrote:
Theories are NOT discovered. Theories are made up, conjured up
models, brain farts and models of how reality SHOULD be in the
mind of story tellers, who fashion to call and label themselves as
Theoretical Physicists.... ahahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA.... 
>
"someone else discovered the same theories"...yes very much so
and long before AE plagiarized them, from Max Planck, Pretto,
Hasenoehrl, Mosengeil and a slew of others... Check it out, TJ.
>
TJ start accepting the fact that the German Zionist Diaspora Jew
Return Movement was in high gear early 1900'a. They needed 
a posterboy, which they found in Einstein who agreed with them 
to be put into the limelight & get fame.
Einstein paid them back by him going on a world tour for them,
in 1921, to promote Zionism.... 

SR/GR are political tools, without any sci/tech value! ...  DUH!
>
ED-TJ wrote:
much of modern technology would be impossible. Einstein was
INSTRUMENTAL in the foundations of quantum mechanics, 
and of course relativity, BOTH of them were needed to develop
the technologies.
> 
hanson wrote:
...  which one?.. NOT even a single one!.. None, nada, zero!
___ All technology is trial & error driven____  Duh!
>
ED-TJ wrote
Remember his Nobel Prize was for his explanation of 
the photoelectric effect, not for relativity.
>
hanson wrote:
... and there, down the drain, goes ED-TJ's promulgation
of  relativity, which Einstein himself already denied & 
recanted 60+ years ago (and wanted to be a plumber) 
<http://tinyurl.com/Einstein-denied-his-SR-and-GR>
who concluded that: _ SR is short for STUPID RANT __
& _ GR being nothing but a GULLIBLE RANT_.... LOL
>
... and the PhotEl effect was discovered in 1887 by 
the German physicist Heinrich Rudolf Hertz, not by
Einstein. AE stole & plagiarized that one too, Duh!
>
ED-TJ wrote
> Tom Roberts, Enstein Dingleberry, 
> ... during his worship of Albert's Sphincter
>
Virdy Mahipal" mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote (in part):
Albert Einstein discovered E=mcc... in THE LITERATURE!
Albert Einstein explained the PEe... from THE LITERATURE
>
Albert Einstein is to Physics what Forrest Gump was in the 
movie that pr vides the blueprint on how revisionists plagiarize.
>
The Zionists assigned Albert undue credit for everything, incl.
AE's blatant Plagiarism, which was so bad that AE publicly
apologized for the theft of intellectual property in 1907, which
was insisted on by Mileva Maric, the Xtian wife of wife-beater AE
who was arrested in 1906 twice for wifebeating with 31'200 hit
on Google... 
>
Hey, Robert's,..  are you a wifebeater too that you feel such
empathy and understanding for your fellow wife-beater?
>
Thanks for the laughs, TJ, and watch now all your fellow ED's
jump up & down, full of hatred & anger .....ahahahahahanson
>
>
Major bigot and nutjacoby "benj" <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> Hanson is obviously a major bigot and nutjob, but that is no 
> reason to ignore what he is saying. Hanon KNOWS SOMETHING!
> 
> People like to say relativity is wrong and Einstein was a plagiarist. 
> Nonsense on both counts. True story is Relativity is not wrong. And 
> furthermore Relativity was proposed first by Galileo for mechanical 
> actions.  By Einstein's time the big question was did relativity also 
> apply to light and electromagnetics. There was accumulating evidence at 
> that time that this was true. So in effect, Einstein wrote a review 
> paper gathering all the evidence and ideas together. That is hardly 
> plagiarism. On the other hand, one does not usually get a Nobel prize 
> for papers published in "reviews of modern physics" does one?
> 
> As for all the Jewish media Hype of Einstein being the greatest 
> intellect the cosmos has ever seen (Just read his biography if you doubt 
> these claims have been made) is obviously something political at it's 
> core. Hanson probably has nailed it.
>
hanson wrote:
Benj, the Jewish Apostate who has "been there", done that &
even got a brown T-shirt... from Glazier... is flip flopping between
agreeing with hanson and then with Ben himself.  Ben was also
told by his G-d, & by the eminent Jewish scholar Harold Wallace 
Rosenthal to use the nail for _trepanning_ himself, as detailed in
in the  epic <http://tinyurl.com/The-HW-Rosenthal-interview-XT>
>
So Ben, "Get the picture" or "Go figure". "O ya"hahahaha...
>

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#608616

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-12-11 16:26 +0000
Message-ID<o2junc$f7n$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#608607
SteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net> writes:

>With all the ongoing advances in science and theoretical physics, e.g.
>particle accelrators and colliders, ejectronics, there is little doubt
>that essentially all of E's stuff would have been way realized by now.

Yes. Had Einstein never existed, all his work would have been discovered,
probably several years later, and probably by multiple different people.
Physics would have more scientists well known (to physicists) for discovering
one or two major things, and the general public wouldn't have a name
synonymous with "genius". What Einstein did was do things before others had
a chance, and do so many of those things.

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#608618

FromPoutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-11 17:52 +0100
Message-ID<o2k05d$559$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#608616
Dne 11/12/2016 v 17:26 Michael Moroney napsal(a):
> SteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net> writes:
> 
>> With all the ongoing advances in science and theoretical physics, e.g.
>> particle accelrators and colliders, ejectronics, there is little doubt
>> that essentially all of E's stuff would have been way realized by now.
> 
> Yes. Had Einstein never existed, all his work would have been discovered,
> probably several years later, and probably by multiple different people.
> Physics would have more scientists well known (to physicists) for discovering
> one or two major things, and the general public wouldn't have a name
> synonymous with "genius". What Einstein did was do things before others had
> a chance, and do so many of those things.
> 
By other words, science is  not like art to say,
if there had been no scientist X,
there would not have been any theory Y nor its application Z.

As it would be, sooner or later, by someone else.


-- 
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )

A wise man guards words he says,
as they say about him more,
than he says about the subject.

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#608619

Fromje suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where>
Date2016-12-11 09:07 -0800
Message-ID<charlie-gordon1492-990B1B.09074211122016@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#608607
In article <4gjq4cld5qoa0a1jcdm42iukr6jq5ka7oe@4ax.com>,
 SteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net> wrote:

> With all the ongoing advances in science and theoretical physics, e.g.
> particle accelrators and colliders, ejectronics, there is little doubt
> that essentially all of E's stuff would have been way realized by now.

It was being realised a century ago. Einstein was the first one to publish the 
assumed measured speed of light would be the same, but others were working up to 
it. Michealson-Morley, Lorentz, Maxwell, black body radiation, photoelectric 
effect were leading physicsists in the same direction. The only question is who 
would put all the pieces together first. If not Einstein, someone else would 
have done it within a few years.

Nuclear fission was discoverred by three other Germans. Matter-energy 
equivalence explained away the mass discrepancy they found.

-- 
Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments
of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from
coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true
of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.

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#608651

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-12-11 11:55 -0800
Message-ID<584DAF42.11B@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#608619
je suis charly wrote:
> 
> In article <4gjq4cld5qoa0a1jcdm42iukr6jq5ka7oe@4ax.com>,
>  SteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net> wrote:
> 
> > With all the ongoing advances in science and theoretical physics, e.g.
> > particle accelrators and colliders, ejectronics, there is little doubt
> > that essentially all of E's stuff would have been way realized by now.
> 
> It was being realised a century ago. Einstein was the first one to publish the
> assumed measured speed of light would be the same, but others were working up to
> it. Michealson-Morley, Lorentz, Maxwell, black body radiation, photoelectric
> effect were leading physicsists in the same direction. The only question is who
> would put all the pieces together first. If not Einstein, someone else would
> have done it within a few years.
> 
> Nuclear fission was discoverred by three other Germans. Matter-energy
> equivalence explained away the mass discrepancy they found.


Please, don't insult my intelligence..
it takes a lot more than
"three other Germans" to
manufacture an atomic bomb.


In other words...
you have to be an 'Einstein'
to manufacture an atomic bomb.


man·u·fac·ture
?man(y)?'fak(t)SH?r/
noun
noun: manufacture

    1.
    the making of articles on a large scale using machinery.
    "the manufacture of armored vehicles"
    synonyms:	production, making, manufacturing, mass-production, construction, building, assembly, creation, fabrication, prefabrication, processing


http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/Albert_Einstein/Albert_Einstein_The-Man-Who-Built-The-Atomic-Bomb.html



Albert Einstein had and idea..
to build an atomic bomb.

While he spent ten years
working at the patent office
looking and learning how
people contruct things..

he figured it out.

So, first he started to ...teach,
his students...How To Build an Atomic Bomb.

A student asked him..
"What do you need to make this happen?"

Einstein responded, "You start with Radium."


http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/Albert_Einstein/Albert_Einstein_The-Man-Who-Built-The-Atomic-Bomb.html

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#608627

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-11 10:39 -0800
Message-ID<ddee0d39-2ffb-4fec-9a61-0a9e6f6be2e3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#608603
On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 12:30:01 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> I know 
> this is 
> very differcult 
> for you people 
> to understand...
> 
> Without Albert Einstein
> there would be no atomic bombs
> or nuclear bombs in existence
> today.
> 
> No E=mc2, no atomic bombs.
> 
> I know 
> this is 
> very differcult 
> for you people 
> to understand...
> because you don't
> understand how
> the world works
> and how the 
> direction of
> the future is
> created.
> 
> No Einstein
> No E=mc2
> No atomic bombs.
> 
> 
> so nevermind...

Not so. #1 was Oppenheimer #2 Fermi #3 was Teller #4 was Feynman #5 was Bohr #6 Born Einstein's E=MC^2 showed it as reality.Einstein was not allowed in a lab he was all elbows. Trebert

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#608631

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2016-12-11 11:03 -0800
Message-ID<o2k7st$i19$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#608627
"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
 it as reality:Einstein was not allowed in a lab,, just like
you Glazier who has never been in any lab neither

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#608781

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2016-12-12 12:45 -0800
Message-ID<c6336633-1b2a-4805-a16f-ec8d0d68aa7f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#608627
On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 10:39:24 AM UTC-8, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 12:30:01 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > I know 
> > this is 
> > very differcult 
> > for you people 
> > to understand...
> > 
> > Without Albert Einstein
> > there would be no atomic bombs
> > or nuclear bombs in existence
> > today.
> > 
> > No E=mc2, no atomic bombs.
> > 
> > I know 
> > this is 
> > very differcult 
> > for you people 
> > to understand...
> > because you don't
> > understand how
> > the world works
> > and how the 
> > direction of
> > the future is
> > created.
> > 
> > No Einstein
> > No E=mc2
> > No atomic bombs.
> > 
> > 
> > so nevermind...
> 
> Not so. #1 was Oppenheimer #2 Fermi #3 was Teller #4 was Feynman #5 was Bohr #6 Born Einstein's E=MC^2 showed it as reality.Einstein was not allowed in a lab he was all elbows. Trebert


Everyone knows that Einstein spent all his WWII time working with Tesla on the Philadelphia Experiment!

Double-A

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#608790

FromPoutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-12 22:35 +0100
Message-ID<o2n54e$i4k$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#608781
Dne 12/12/2016 v 21:45 Double-A napsal(a):
> 
> Everyone knows that Einstein spent all his WWII time working with Tesla on the Philadelphia Experiment!
> 
Even those who cannot read ?

-- 
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )

A wise man guards words he says,
as they say about him more,
than he says about the subject.

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#608900

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2016-12-13 11:59 -0800
Message-ID<54bccb74-11a9-4614-9481-f97f5d908030@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#608790
On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 1:35:33 PM UTC-8, Poutnik Fornntp wrote:
> Dne 12/12/2016 v 21:45 Double-A napsal(a):
> > 
> > Everyone knows that Einstein spent all his WWII time working with Tesla on the Philadelphia Experiment!
> > 
> Even those who cannot read ?


Especially them!

Double-A

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